John has some 17.5 motors other than Novak for $69.99 in the case.

John has some 17.5 motors other than Novak for $69.99 in the case.

Yeah, They are trinity motors, John says that they have more torque than the novaks.
Well, all of our spec packs died and nothing we do helps we have tried everything we can think of. Since there is just 1 more weekend after this we are gonna go ahead and switch to 21.5 lipo today.:thumbsup:. So, by looks of things, Chip is gonna win this one.

...on behalf of Tri-State Hobbies and Raceway...
I wanna thank everyone for making the trip out into the snow to race....great turn out for ROC spec.!!!

good to see the newbies gettin settled in the pockets and learnin their cars!

Dont forget folks! Dec 13th is Toys for Tots race

And ROC's Double points race!

New leader on the board--- Chip Tague in first with 901 Points

Nobody said a word but there was a new track record set in the Legend Main.

The 41 hit a 40/4:04.758, just nosing out Chuck's 40/4:04.846. Maybe somebody could put that on the board. Admittedly Chuck had a huge advantage using what looked like a 21.5 brushless motor and a Lipo battery in his Legend while the 41 ran all spec equipment. Great race tho! Next time I'll use a big ol' 6-cell EP pack to make it a little more fair.

Found enough speed in 13.5 to dirt track a pan car around just like an 1/8 scale late model at Gabby's Hoop! Sorry dude to Jeremy for that pass in the Main. Almost won that sucker two weeks in a row...

The 41 had a bad night in ROC, qualifying 3rd but apparently all spec batteries are not created equal.
:dude:

Nobody said a word but there was a new track record set in the Legend Main.

The 41 hit a 40/4:04.758, just nosing out Chuck's 40/4:04.846. Maybe somebody could put that on the board. Admittedly Chuck had a huge advantage using what looked like a 21.5 brushless motor and a Lipo battery in his Legend while the 41 ran all spec equipment. Great race tho! Next time I'll use a big ol' 6-cell EP pack to make it a little more fair.

Found enough speed in 13.5 to dirt track a pan car around just like an 1/8 scale late model at Gabby's Hoop! Sorry dude to Jeremy for that pass in the Main. Almost won that sucker two weeks in a row...

The 41 had a bad night in ROC, qualifying 3rd but apparently all spec batteries are not created equal.
:dude:

Thad, did you knocked off my 39 lap record against Chucks setup?????

:woohoo:

Congrats!!!!!!

Trinity 1600 Spec packs, I lost one tonight......only a matter of time till they all are gone. Only a metter of time until my two "precious" packs bite the dust. I'm not buying anymore new or used, although I have a good source.

Nobody said a word but there was a new track record set in the Legend Main.

The 41 hit a 40/4:04.758, just nosing out Chuck's 40/4:04.846. Maybe somebody could put that on the board. Admittedly Chuck had a huge advantage using what looked like a 21.5 brushless motor and a Lipo battery in his Legend while the 41 ran all spec equipment. Great race tho! Next time I'll use a big ol' 6-cell EP pack to make it a little more fair.

Found enough speed in 13.5 to dirt track a pan car around just like an 1/8 scale late model at Gabby's Hoop! Sorry dude to Jeremy for that pass in the Main. Almost won that sucker two weeks in a row...

The 41 had a bad night in ROC, qualifying 3rd but apparently all spec batteries are not created equal.
:dude:


Thad... Congrats on the new record....Didn't see that and sorry I missed it! Also the reocrd for the brushless motor should be duely noted as an modified legends class...wonder what kinda interest that would draw up...



As for me bumpin ya and such... didn't mean to do that in the first part of the main ...and then again...rubbin ya the second part of it...
my car had been outta shape for so long...that I kinda forgot what it was like to have a fast car again. Thanks to Eli's help,... found the problem of my pushing to be because a screw was loose(shut up chip) on the front of my T plate!...Lost a nut(shut up chip)!


Eric L

All the bumping and grinding paid off in the end for me. Im Extremely happy with the New Silva Concepts ride (thanks Art) just the way it works in the corners is awesome, sometimes too awesome (thats when i pull a ERIC and stuff it under the boards) lol. but being frustrated all night for not finishing a heat, and then working my way threw traffic (literally & Physically) then i caught the bump to the A-main along with Josh ( the oval first timer in the all red car )
I think we held our own pretty good i noticed a few times me getting in the way of some other people with my slower. but honestly that makes for good racing having to drive around lap traffic. sometimes into lap traffic. One time i think i ran under Thad ( black and gold truck ) making him fly threw the air and then getting hit by another car. sorry about all that

all i can say is what a night of racing and i hope to see everyone their next week for the toys for tots charity race.. and maybe a LEGENDS FIGURE 8 RACE!!!! MAIN EVENT!!!!!!!!!!

I see about laying out the rails needed for the figure 8 Wednesday/Thursday night.

Trinity 1600 Spec pack MUST be used for the figure 8!!!!!

To quote a movie line from Monty Python

...."Bring out your dead"......

We could open the figure race up to "" run what you bring "". Just a thought. Some racers may have a Legends laying around, not set up for Spec, that would run it if they could. How about making the race like 15min long. The most laps in 15min wins. That way you could fix it during the race, change battries if needed, clean up parts off the track, etc.

Sam

*Time to strap a 7cell in the legends* Foam bumpers stuck to the chassis. and a BIG wing on the rear end!

*Time to strap a 7cell in the legends* Foam bumpers stuck to the chassis. and a BIG wing on the rear end!

stick a 3300 4 cell in it....lmao
....what the heck...Y not make it a derby with legends...lmao

jk
unless....lol

Eric L

7 cell won't fit with removing one of the chassis cross braces.

6 cell 3300?

UGLY!

A few questions-
Who is in charge of the Legend class rules at Tri State?
What are the rules for the Legend class for the Toys for Tots race?
Will there be a figure 8 Main for Legends at this race?
Will the figure 8 be run on a breakout?
What size figure 8? The whole track??
:dude:

Legend rules and races should be as we have ran them, 4 cell Spec packs, spec motors, spec tires, Oval for the main.

Then after all the normal racing, run the figure 8 bash, no breakout, using the whole track, how we did it last time.

No battery changes, no time limit, most laps win?

Running the normal spec Legend class with the Main on the oval and then running the figure 8 after all the other Mains is a good plan (plus that will give a guy time to put in his figure 8 spec motor).

Suggest that the figure 8 race have a limit like 5 minutes or 50 laps. And some sort of prize for the winner, like a set of tires and a body or a track gift certificate- that might motivate a few more Legends to show up.
:dude:

Running the normal spec Legend class with the Main on the oval and then running the figure 8 after all the other Mains is a good plan (plus that will give a guy time to put in his figure 8 spec motor).

Suggest that the figure 8 race have a limit like 5 minutes or 50 laps. And some sort of prize for the winner, like a set of tires and a body or a track gift certificate- that might motivate a few more Legends to show up.
:dude:



I will talk to john about some sort of prize for the figure 8 race

John gave away a body last time......

John gave away a body last time......

along with quite a few other things!

guess you didn't get any loctite?

guess you didn't get any loctite?

yep i did... y

Well, I adjusted my car...Tightened the nuts on the T-plate...also took the brace outta off of it too! checked my ride heights... rebuilt my motor...

Next I'mma gonna clean out my bearings...and then...recheck everything one more time!

I'll Be ready (I hope) for Saturday! How about everyone else!!!

OH yea and I just heard what we might be going to 1c Lipo 17.5 so dont count all yer chickens yet... wait til they settle on one first.

Eric L

You did what??????

More like how did John help you tonight :)

13.5 lipo single cell, but you WILL need to run a Rx pack, slightly slower than 17.5 4 cell.......too slow for me :)

well i have a few things that ive traded over on rctech.net... one that has landed me a NIB GTB 6cell and a NIB novak smart stop for a 2s lipo... and the other landing me a NIB Trinity 3800 lipo.. hopefully i can swap that for a new SMC 2s 3200 at the shop..

only thing i would need next would be a 21.5 motor.. and a lipo tray for my ksg gen2.... and ill be ready to run some 21.5 lipo...


Also note to Eric preparation for this weekend free'd up the front end with the tooth paste and the king pins chucked in the dremal.. then re-polished them with some blue magic Liquid metal polish........ and boy my front end is butter smooth........ Friday night im gonna cut some tires down. instead of using my spec skins (2.024) also i still have yet my figure 8 ride.. but believe me it will be ready D-day

The 1 cell battery seams interesting for sure but the output voltage 3.7, some folks may have radio issues, -like lack of steering servo torque.
John told Jacob he has ordered the SMC 1 cell LiPo batteries, due in next week.

Doug Brock is going to switch to 2 cell 21.5 brushless, Jacob and I will give it a serious try. Doing a 4.3 sec. lap is a rush.

We checked the BRL 21.5 LiPo rules which stated that the min. car weight shall be 38 oz.
Last weekend we had added weight to match Chuck's car at 41 oz., our cars are fat but we match and that is okay for now.
Chuck and John were a huge help last weekend, Jacob and I have much yet to learn.

We have our Legends cars ready, plan on being there tomorrow night for setup work.

This has been a long week..........
-Brad

This has been a long week..........
-Brad

Tell me about it!

King and I will also be racing our legends, worked on our front ends and they work almost as good as my l4. We do have 2 spec packs left that will charge and 2 okay spec motors so we will be running those in legends. I still have that 17.5 motor though...........Hmmmmm.

Thad, I was informed that since your 40 lap record came in the main, it doesn't count for the record with the short first lap.

Therefore mind stands for now until you knock it off, which I know you will. After tonights Figure 8 race I won't be racing my Legends until John gets some parts in.

But it was fun!!!!!

Onto ROC notes, I finally got a clear run with the ROC car set on kill. I reset my track records of 50 laps in 4:00.296 and fast lap of 4.540 to 51 in 4:01.669 and fast lap of 4.505...

2.18 rear wheel diameter with 2.78 rollout, 39/96 gearing.

Overall tonight was great. Alot of folks showed up for the toys for tots, but the 17.5-Lipo/10.5-4 cell guys, 10 entrys and they all ran together for the Main, Dominic failed to make a full lap due to spur gear issue, wheter his fault or due to a minor tangle up at the start.

Nine cars left running 3.85-4.0 lap times. it was all a blur!!!!!! Quite humbling to me, I know I don't have 1/10th the skill those guys have to race that close!!!!

Thad, I was informed that since your 40 lap record came in the main, it doesn't count for the record with the short first lap.

Therefore mind stands for now until you knock it off, which I know you will...

Thats OK Chip, you are one heckuva racer, I forgot about Tri-State's scoring set up in the Legend class. Since two scoring methodologies are used, shouldn't there be two track records for the class- one for the qualifyers and another for the main? Anyway, I'll just have to try harder next time to nail the qualifyer record, hopefully Chuck will be right behind me with his outlaw brushless lipo 6.07 robotic repeater!

Does the track have a web site where one can view the race results?
:dude:

Eric normally posts the ROC points results here.......but I extended my lead on him saturday.

I won't be racing legends for a while......until I get parts in to fix it from the crashing LOL!!!!!!

Would having a spotter calling out your lap times be a bad idea or just bad in the spirit of the rules?????

Would having a spotter calling out your lap times be a bad idea or just bad in the spirit of the rules?????

Its always nice to have an announcer call out lap times in any class, even more so in a breakout class! Having the lap times announced (and the scoreboard turned on during the race) is critical to a good run in a break out race. The last time I was raced at Tri State, very few lap times were announced and the score board was turned off (until the Main). For races where there is no announcer or scoreboard, a spotter calling out just one guy's lap times would be a huge advantage.

What did you break on your legend? Besides the body and electronics, the most expensive part on the car costs less than $10.00...
:dude:

Eric normally posts the ROC points results here.......but I extended my lead on him saturday.

I won't be racing legends for a while......until I get parts in to fix it from the crashing LOL!!!!!!

Would having a spotter calling out your lap times be a bad idea or just bad in the spirit of the rules?????

well I tried to post the results the easy way but since the net is being tough I will do it the hard way!

1 Chip 1211
2 Eric 1149
3 Sam 1122
4 Art 1111
5 Bullit 1031
6 Terry 948
7 Brad 877
8 Ronnie 401
9 Dalton 144
10 Rob 134
These results are after the three throw away points are taken out!

Results for Figure 8 race

1) car 6--Eric 27laps 4:07.017 Fast Lap 6.909
2) car 8--John 22laps 2:49.341 Fast Lap 7.007 John was leading the race til battery failure

3) car 7--Sam 22laps 4:00.415 fast lap 8.173
4) car 5--Bullit 21laps 4:01.925 Fast lap 6.942
5) car 3--Ronnie 19laps 3:33.806 fast Lap 8.101
6) car 4--Chip 19laps 4:21.685 fast lap 7.708


my opinion: I wanna do that again!!!


:woohoo:
EricL

Dbl Pts. Dbl Pts. Dbl Pts.
Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4 Week 5 Week 6 Week 7 Week 8 Week 9 Week 10
10-Oct 18-Oct 25-Oct 1-Nov 8-Nov 15-Nov 22-Nov 6-Dec 13-Dec 20-Dec Total Pts,.
1 Chip Tague 0 0 153 152 286 0 155 155 310 1211
2 Eric Loquillano #11 147 0 0 0 266 149 144 147 296 1149
3 Sam Robinson #6 137 0 0 141 274 0 147 141 282 1122
4 Art Graham #71a 143 0 149 145 258 140 0 0 276 1111
5 Jacob Mullins # 27 155 147 152 139 300 138 0 0 0 1031
6 Brad Mullins #27 138 135 0 153 300 151 0 0 0 877
7 Terry Rupert #9 132 0 141 0 260 141 0 0 274 948
8 Dalton Myers #71d 144 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 144
9 Rob Bryant #72 134 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 134
10 Ronnie Hilton 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 133 268 401

Its always nice to have an announcer call out lap times in any class, even more so in a breakout class! Having the lap times announced (and the scoreboard turned on during the race) is critical to a good run in a break out race. The last time I was raced at Tri State, very few lap times were announced and the score board was turned off (until the Main). For races where there is no announcer or scoreboard, a spotter calling out just one guy's lap times would be a huge advantage.

What did you break on your legend? Besides the body and electronics, the most expensive part on the car costs less than $10.00...
:dude:

front axle plate, front bumper, servo, rear axle bearing and maybe a new axle!!!!

I had a blast with the steering so messed up.

I was looking on ebay, someone has a lot of 13-15 Legend axles that are "slightly bent" LOL!!!!!

Sounds like you suffered from typical figure 8 carnage. But its well worth it for the fun factor!

Most Legend rules say you can use any plastic style front bumper (no carbon fiber), so I use a Revo rear bumper on the front of mine. Fits nicely on the stock bumper. Super tough and light, haven't broke any front end parts or servos since installing one a few years ago. Since thats the first thing the Revo guys usually toss, you can probably get one for free. There is very little, if any, lap time difference between bearings and bushings on these cars, so I use bushings all around on mine, totally bullet proof. Bolink sprint car nerf bars bolt right on, haven't bent the rear axle since installing those. Also use a heatsink on the motor that wedges against the battery tray, which keeps the motor from moving in the bad crashes and saves your spur gear. Sure my Legend is probably the heaviest, with the extra parts, functional headlights, three Strombergs with scoop & fuel lines, and full moon discs. But it is dead nuts reliable, holds track records at 4 1/2 tracks and won every figure 8 race its been in (4). And I'm one of those guys who does NOT let off at the intersection. Wish I could have made it down to your race.

13-15 bent axles, eh? I saw 'em too but I'd be too ashamed to put 'em on ebay... does he have any bids yet?
:dude:

I must admit, I was TRYING to inflict damage.....and enjoyed it!!!!

Only thing John didn't have in stock was the front axle piece.....I also haven't paid much attention to the axles bidding, just thought it was funny. Other than losing a e-clip or busting a king pin this is the first serious damage my Legend car has seen. I have my first body to put back on, the two tone one was cracking in the corners of the running boards.

I think I have 1.5 ounces of weight on the LR frame rail.....turning right at the beginning was fun!!!!!

I have tried my Legend car at full speed.....and it needs a little tuning to handle right. Perfect for breakout, but that extra 1/2 second requires more setup and ALOT better driving!

In one of the Quals I caught up to Bullit to put him a lap down since he spun on the ice, but was bump drafting him down the whole back straight!!!!!

A blast indeed.

"slightly" bent axles.......now that is funny!!!!!!!!!

http://photos.blacksheepvinyl.com/images/A_0/5/4/2/12450/toudftf4.jpg

hey guys where is your track located and what onroad and oval classes are you running?also what kind of track set up do you have and your hours for racing and practice,thanks alot

Sunday-Wednesday = on road set up
Thursday can be either depending on when the track gets changed
Friday and Saturday = oval

3379 Dixie Highway, Fairfield, OH 45015

Some maps will have it listed as being in Hamiltion, dang annexing!

When i Got home last saturday, i realized that my front arm on my legends was broken:(, again! I, wait Eric helped me i was very busy at the time, just changed it! Its not very fun to replace either because ya gotta take the chassis in half to change it.

John has three more axle plates in stock, they were on the counter tonight when I left.

I'll be grabbing one along with a bumper and what ever else I messed up, maybe even an axle!

:wave:Gotta tell ya, Was fun racing this past wknd! Can't wait for this wknd to finish off this points series!

Sam....I hope you can make it!

Terry, you too!

Eric L

is your track inside or outside?do guys have any pics?

Any One Have The G3 Yet And If So What Do Ya Think About It??

i wont be racing this weekend or the next...... ill see you guys after the 1st of the year..

on that note i am making a stop sometime during the day to drop off a body. (Chip) as i figured out a way to rig my compressor up to the airbrush.

here a sneak peak of the body for ya chip
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/big_dog1893/100_1246.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/big_dog1893/100_1248.jpg

here is some more stuff to look at and laugh about

the 6 daring entrants for the figure 8 race of mayhem!!!!!!!! (and one goof who wanted his picture taken)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/big_dog1893/100_1226.jpg

and a un-edited video of some of the race (before i lost my wheel and got taken out)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/big_dog1893/th_100_1227.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v328/big_dog1893/?action=view&current=100_1227.flv)

I really like how the sides came out!

is tri state racing this saturday if so who in thanks terry

I plan on racing this weekend, 13.5 single cell if I get the car done by then.

We plan to be down friday for some practice, but not too much because regular tires can get pretty expensive, sadly.