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astroking2 03-06-2008, 04:49 PM I bought this off Ebay. Liked how it looked and the low run on it (assuming it is this low of a run)
Wanted to know if anybody knew anything about it. Could anybody verify that it is only 1 of 34?
I thought $50 was a good buy, but then again, I have a thing for mustangs! :p
Thanks for the assistance.
http://i23.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/df/69/5031_1.JPG
Here is the ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150223090020&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005
STUTZ 03-06-2008, 05:07 PM It's a beauty!
Seems like a reasonable BIN price if only 34 were made.
They made a '67 GTO Shenadoah Apple Blossom Festival last year (I think). I'm pretty sure they made more than 34 GM's though.
Mikietom 03-06-2008, 07:03 PM From what I was informed there should be 60 greens
Mike
rattlehed 03-07-2008, 11:04 AM :thumbsup:The majority of those are white in the regular run but comes in a small window box. A somewhat smaller quantity were made in black on the custom blister. There are 34 of each greenie (34 custom blisters and 34 window box).
I spoke with the guy who has these made and he said that less than 30 would be available to the public. I don't know the production on the reg run cars but it's pretty low. Last year's GTO was 60 greens with less than 55 available to the public. Some will be sold off to local collectors who know the guys that have these made so only a few will hit the bay. Hope this helps!
astroking2 03-07-2008, 11:29 AM :thumbsup:The majority of those are white in the regular run but comes in a small window box. A somewhat smaller quantity were made in black on the custom blister. There are 34 of each greenie (34 custom blisters and 34 window box).
I spoke with the guy who has these made and he said that less than 30 would be available to the public. I don't know the production on the reg run cars but it's pretty low. Last year's GTO was 60 greens with less than 55 available to the public. Some will be sold off to local collectors who know the guys that have these made so only a few will hit the bay. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the great info.
There was 1 of the windown box Green Machines in his store when I bought this one, and did not know why the difference.
Scott Moen 03-07-2008, 03:36 PM Hi All,
Well these totally caught me off guard ! Thanks to Astroking2 for pointing these out. I e-mailed the gentleman from Ad-Ventures and he was kind enough to sell me a Green Machine Apple Blossom Festival '69 Mach 1. They are going to be listing a few more on ebay soon, so keep an eye out if you want to get one. Here are the other ones I picked up ....
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/WisMach1/AdVenturesGreenlight69Mach1.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/WisMach1/AdVenturesGreenlight69Mach1-GreenMa.jpg
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/WisMach1/AppleBlossomFestival2008GL69Mach1.jpg http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/WisMach1/AppleBlossomFestival2008GL69Mach1-G.jpg
These are definitely different than any other Greenlight '69 Mach 1's made to date. I'm glad I could get one of each.
Take care and have a great week all.
Scott
Drdealone 03-07-2008, 09:02 PM Correct GM #s are 34 Made for the Carded Mach 1 and 38 Made for the Boxed Mach 1. The boxed GM's are not code 3's. They are factory produced GL cars with a black interior and no Apple fest Logo on the roof. Very sweet set.
DrDeal
Drdealone 03-10-2008, 08:12 PM Astroking ,
Thanks very much for posting the info about the Apple fest Stangs. I may have missed out if not for your post. Hopefully I will get to return the favor.
My cars arrived today and are very sweet.
DrDeal
astroking2 03-10-2008, 09:57 PM No problem Dr. Deal! :thumbsup:
I thought it was too good a deal not to share with everybody else.
Got mine today as well. Very nice car. Love the green bottom. Mine is number 19.
I highly recommend this custom job to all interested in green machines. Well done all around! :wave:
Drdealone 03-11-2008, 05:07 AM My carded GM Stang is #16 and the Boxed GM is sealed with no ability to view the # without opening it. I will treat that one like the early GM's and just live with the fact that I can not view the #. Kind of like an unscratched lottery ticket. It has a 1/38 chance of being #1.
DrDeal
Scott Moen 03-11-2008, 05:49 AM I highly recommend this custom job to all interested in green machines. Well done all around! :wave:
I would just like to point out that these are NOT Customs. These are factory produced cars. With the exception of possibly the tampo on the Apple Blossom Cars. Ad-Ventures may have done them. I am waiting on a reply from Richard with that question as well as "who produced the bp's". I'll let you all know when I hear back from him.
Oh and my GM bp is #21 ... COOL ! ! :woohoo:
I'd like to thank Astroking2 for the heads up. I'd have been going nuts trying to get these for my Mustang collection if it weren't for you :thumbsup:
Have a great week all.
Scott
P.S. - Here are my cars ....
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/WisMach1/Green%20Machines/misc003.jpg
Drdealone 03-15-2008, 12:36 PM Scott,
There is no way any of those four cars are customs. Richard told me they were all produced by GL. Cars and packages. Very sweet set. Glad I got in on them as they went in a flash.
DrDeal
Scott Moen 03-15-2008, 01:34 PM Scott,
There is no way any of those four cars are customs. Richard told me they were all produced by GL. Cars and packages. Very sweet set. Glad I got in on them as they went in a flash.
DrDeal
Hi Andrew,
I wasn't implying that the cars themselves were customs, I just didn't know if Ad-Ventures had done the tampo work on the ABF cars and possibly the bp's. I did hear from Richard and you are correct, they are completely produced by Greenlight. And you are correct ... they are a very sweet set :thumbsup: We're fortunate to have gotten them when we did. Take care and have a great weekend.
Scott
astroking2 03-15-2008, 05:28 PM Scott,
There is no way any of those four cars are customs. Richard told me they were all produced by GL. Cars and packages. Very sweet set. Glad I got in on them as they went in a flash.
DrDeal
Interesting. I thought they were a custom job done for this event.
rattlehed 03-15-2008, 06:01 PM Interesting. I thought they were a custom job done for this event.
These are promotional,produced and packaged by GL,similar to the Midnight Edition,Flames,Hot August Nights,Triple Black,etc...... They are done for an event or a particular online diecast dealer(or both).:)
astroking2 03-15-2008, 07:09 PM I think I understand now. ;)
My definition of custom seems to be different then others here, which is why I was confused.
When I think of custom, I think of a car that cannot be found at stores and is only available through 1 or 2 stores/online shops.
Thus, this car would be a custom (from what I just said).
But I see what you all are saying.
I tried to buy another one of these, but the seller said only 1 per household.
That is fine with me (and I understand why it is done).
:wave:
Drdealone 03-16-2008, 05:21 AM Astroking. Now I understand. You refer to Promo Cars as Customs.
Glad you got them. This set will go down as one of the lowest produced / coolest Green Machine releases done. Ebay will be a painfull way to acquire these GM's. I am glad Richard limited these so that they were not snapped up for resale. I have yet to see someone sell theirs. I know I am keeping mine.
This release is a perfect example of this collecting community working together to help each other out with info regarding cool cars and how to get them. You posted info here once you saw them on Ebay on Thursday. I posted Richard's phone # on UTHC the following Friday and they were spoken for by the following Monday when Richard opened his store and took phone calls. This was a very efficient way to do it and helped out those GL fans that check these sites often. Richard also saved some fees by not having to sell most of them on the bay.
DrDeal
Cletuss 03-17-2008, 09:38 AM Nice score. Thanks for sharing.
astroking2 03-18-2008, 07:50 PM Glad I got mine for $50.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260221719385&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016
Drdealone 03-19-2008, 03:57 AM $700 for the pair. This should be interesting.
DrDeal
gr6120 03-19-2008, 04:23 PM $700 for the pair. This should be interesting.
DrDeal
I was just going to post about this eBay seller, too. I periodically come across his auctions while browsing for GL cars. This person routinely over-inflates GM prices in practically all of his BIN auctions, and talks about how ultra-rare the cars are ... as if this should somehow justify the prices being charged. I guess the versions of the cars he has must be "platinum-plated" :rolleyes:.
At the same time, I've also spoken with Richard at AD-Ventures and have found him not only pleasant to deal with, but also quite humble. Just ordered a set of the four Mustangs from him, too. I can only hope that his good nature isn't taken advantage of by scalpers. AD-Ventures is a family-run business that doesn't believe in padding shipping -- or charging outrageous prices for their die-cast promo pieces.
How laughable to see people like this person on eBay trying to peddle their wares. By charging $399.99 and $299.99 for two cars that are still currently available from the company that made them in the first place, he only epitomizes the greed that's sadly rampant in an otherwise enjoyable hobby.
Let's keep this post up on top, to ensure that people buy these cars from Richard at AD-Ventures, as they should. Once supplies run out from him, I guess it will be back to eBay for those of us who missed out since the GMs for this promo are more limited than usual. But until then, our fellow collectors should know there's another affordable option available :thumbsup:.
gr6120
Drdealone 03-19-2008, 05:57 PM Adam,
I did not think Richard had any GM's left. Thanks for the update. I got my GM's but I am sure others needed to know that.
Regards, DrDeal
astroking2 03-19-2008, 06:48 PM GR6120,
Thanks for the post. I agree with your thoughts on this.
Richard was very nice to me and was willing to work out a little problem we had with the car. A good person and a great company.
Moreover, he could have charged $100+ for these Green Machines to make lots of profit, but instead he charged a reasonable $50 so that they could get into the hands of collectors like you and me. I admire that.
The same cannot be said for these individuals who are asking $400 for it now. They bought it for $50 (maybe less) and are trying to turn around and make $350 quick profit. That is sad and wrong. Hopefully others will read this and pass the word along.
:wave:
gr6120 03-19-2008, 09:19 PM I wonder if Richard knows about the auctions. If so, he must be shaking his head in disbelief (lol).
astroking2 03-21-2008, 12:04 AM I wonder if Richard knows about the auctions. If so, he must be shaking his head in disbelief (lol).
I offered PJPatton $50 for the car, which is about what he paid for it. Assuming he did not get a discount on it. :)
Scott Moen 03-21-2008, 09:05 AM I think people better step back and take a deep breath about this.
What did Jeremy do wrong ? He bought an item that was offered for sale. The fact that he decided to list it on eBay for a high buy-it-now is his perogotive. And while I don't personally agree with this, it is none of our business that he did this. So everyone should quit complaining.
I'm surprised that no-one has stepped up and given Jeremy some credit for the great job he has done in offering some GREAT bundle deals on the GL Limiteds that he has done so far. Where else can you get a Green Machine at the same price as a regular release ... except in the store ?
So why don't we all give this a rest. Just my 2 cents on the situation.
Scott
jam5691 03-21-2008, 09:43 PM I think people better step back and take a deep breath about this.
What did Jeremy do wrong ? He bought an item that was offered for sale. The fact that he decided to list it on eBay for a high buy-it-now is his perogotive. And while I don't personally agree with this, it is none of our business that he did this. So everyone should quit complaining.
I'm surprised that no-one has stepped up and given Jeremy some credit for the great job he has done in offering some GREAT bundle deals on the GL Limiteds that he has done so far. Where else can you get a Green Machine at the same price as a regular release ... except in the store ?
So why don't we all give this a rest. Just my 2 cents on the situation.
Scott
If Jermey bought those out of his own due diligence and surf work that is one thing. If he trolled this board and bought them though someone else's work, and his very kind posting, that is completely another. Only Jermey knows, and we will see if someone will pay his prices. Again, Richard was a upstanding individual and didn't scalp anyone. He invested time and money into his venture. Business is business, he must just be a very giving individual.
gr6120 03-21-2008, 11:39 PM I think people better step back and take a deep breath about this.
With all due respect, I think that the opinions expressed by the people on this thread are fair comment.
What did Jeremy do wrong ? He bought an item that was offered for sale. The fact that he decided to list it on eBay for a high buy-it-now is his perogotive. And while I don't personally agree with this, it is none of our business that he did this. So everyone should quit complaining.
While it may be anyone’s prerogative to buy an item and offer it for sale on eBay at a high Buy It Now price, it becomes everyone’s business and open to ridicule when someone tries to inflate the price of popular items that are routinely the topic of public discussion (i.e., Green Machines).
I'm surprised that no-one has stepped up and given Jeremy some credit for the great job he has done in offering some GREAT bundle deals on the GL Limiteds that he has done so far. Where else can you get a Green Machine at the same price as a regular release ... except in the store ?
Again, with all respect, this is simply not relevant to the specific, targeted comments made in this post. The point is how someone—in this case, the eBay seller in question—has purchased GL Limiteds that someone else has produced (in this case, Richard and his family-run business AD-Ventures, who are currently offering these Green Machines at a fair price) and is trying to make an astronomical profit on the coattails of those labors. For this, at least, I'm pretty sure people aren't thinking of stepping up and giving the other guy a pat on the back. For the record, I just bought a four-car set of the GM promos directly from Richard at AD-Ventures earlier in the week. It cost $132 (shipped), which is a great bundle deal.
So why don't we all give this a rest. Just my 2 cents on the situation.
My 2 cents is that the actions of this seller, who's trying to make a profit of 700% (not an exaggeration … the original price of the Green Machines is $50 and this person is trying to resell one for $400), do not need to be defended. It’s unfortunate that a seller who otherwise has extensive, positive eBay feedback, and who's actually producing separate promo GM bundles at reasonable prices, is now exposing himself to fair criticism by simultaneously selling other items at hugely inflated prices.
Does anyone have to pay $300 or $400 for these GMs? Of course not. But it’s easy to see the way this looks … and how the actions of a person charging these prices may fall under scrutiny.
jam5691 03-22-2008, 10:47 PM What if we were management in Greenlight...or another D/C company....wouldn't we monitor these boards constantly for business intelligence?
Ad-Ventures made some rare GM's.....Greenlight/someone deviated from the 2% policy on the last Midnight editions.
GL, I think, now has a problem, I noticed in my town their cars are significantly discounted. I wouldn't buy at even the new price. Why? I think they lost their focus! Thanks, Bash me!
Drdealone 03-23-2008, 06:11 AM Jam,
You are incorrect that GL deviated from the 2% policy on the Midnight Edition GM's. You just did not know that the 2% policy only applies to retail
releases. 1/64th Promos have a 10% Max GM run and sometimes it is less.
1/24th Promo have an 8% Max GM Run and sometimes it is less. I hope that clears this topic up for you.
Regarding Jeremy's Very High BIN's on Richard's Cars: I agree thats alot to ask and knowing Richard was so fair in his pricing makes it distasteful to many who follow the hobby closely to see. Jeremy just sold the Carded Stang for $200 and the Boxed one for $145 so that's what he felt they were worth. The other thing is that Jeremy
does belong to UTHC and all the boards and searches for deals on limited GM's so he can flip them for a profit. We all know he was only allowed to buy one set of Richard's GM's and he is looking for the type of collector that is not a web/ researcher and has some extra cash to invest in the cars.
I appreciate all the cool cars Jeremy has had made for this hobby and I still want his new Green Tired 67 Shelby GM. I just don't have it yet.
Happy Easter, DrDeal
astroking2 03-23-2008, 01:06 PM DrDeal,
I don't see how Jam5691 is incorrect at all.
You yourself told me in another post that 150 Green Machines were made in a series with only 480 total cars. That is well above 2%. Yes, these were promo cars, and yes, one can get up to 10% done with promo cars. I already knew this. The point is, 2% is not the rule, which was the point that Jam5691 was trying to get across.
I agree with Jam in the sense that greenlight is making too many green machines with these promos. 10% is a very high run. Greenlight should have a max of 5%. Especially, when the latest promos are basically the same car with slight variations.
stangcollector 03-23-2008, 04:25 PM I agree with Jam in the sense that greenlight is making too many green machines with these promos. 10% is a very high run. Greenlight should have a max of 5%. Especially, when the latest promos are basically the same car with slight variations.
I think the higher number of GM's on the promo's is a good idea. I think you can go to any site that sells promo's and can still pick up some from a couple years ago, that means not all of the cars sell, which in turn makes it harder for the group/person/club promoting the car to make there initial investment back. The higher amount of GM's allow more site/club members to have a chance at getting them plus allows for the person promoting the car to make his money back on the cars that don't sell by offering higher priced bundles with a GM or a GM by its self. I think the more limited run is better suited for the mass retail cars.
Just my thoughts
Drdealone 03-23-2008, 06:31 PM Its correct that there were about 150 GM's made for the Error 69 Stang and only 480 Regs are available. What happened was GL used the wrong casting and Jeremy was not obligated to buy all 1500 of the Regular version of the Error Stang. He agreed to buy 480 and the rest I think were scrapped. He was allowed to purchase all 150 of the GM's since it was his order. Higher GM runs on Promos are fine in my view and lower numbers for retail make sense also for the reasons stated in the post before this one.
Regards, DrDeal
jam5691 03-23-2008, 07:19 PM Dr. D.
Clear.
If someone runs across a Promo that is a low 2% run like Ad's, instead of the 30% run on the 429 Midnights, please email me before posting on this board and the scalpers get a hold of them.
Contract manufacturing. You don't have to accept anything that is not produced accordingly. Manufacturers have that built into risk management. So GL could have told them to scrap the whole run and produce again which should have netted them more money. Very curious.
Somehow, he got a windfall.
Thanks for the additional enlightenment.
gr6120 03-28-2008, 10:39 PM Got home this evening to find a package waiting from AD-Ventures ... the 4 GL Apple Blossom Mach 1 'stangs!
I wasted no time in opening the box and having a look inside. As fantastic as the promo Greenies look in pics, they really gleam when you see them for yourself (the regulars are great too). And I didn't realize the GM bases were green, too. A nice touch.
To my pleasant surprise, I saw I'd received lucky #07 for the carded Mach 1 GM :thumbsup:. Although I'm a "cardboard collector" who never opens anything, curiosity got the better of me with the window-box GM ... so I decided to (carefully) open it. This wasn't hard since the box was closed with a clear, round sticker on the flaps. I gently removed the GM (only partway, of course) and flipped it over to find I'd received ... #19! A nice, low number.
All I can say is I'm very impressed with Richard and his business, AD-Ventures. Not only have they made a very limited, high-quality Green Machine promo, but they've offered it at a reasonable price -- and you didn't have to buy a case of extra product you didn't need or get scalped to get it :thumbsup:.
Many of us have seen the high prices the Apple Blossom GM Mach 1's have commanded in the past week or so in online auctions. And now that Richard is down to his last few GMs, he's just put one of them up for auction (#010/034) ... but has set a no-reserve starting bid of $50.00 and has left it to bidders to determine the final price.
For those interested, here's the link (5 days, 13 hours left as I write this):
Green Machine 81st Apple Blossom Festival 1969 Mustang
http://cgi.ebay.com/Green-Machine-81st-Apple-Blossom-Festival-1969-Mustang_W0QQitemZ150230309501QQihZ005QQcategoryZ22 3QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://i23.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/df/69/5031_1.JPG
Only a few left in stock with 90% sold already at fixed price. We will be selling three by auction one at a time to highest bidder. Just released new for 2008 the 81st Shenandoah Apple Blossom Festival 1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1. This is a Green Machine from a production run of 1632 pieces with only 34 of them being a Green Machine. The car has shaker hood, rear window louvers, and spoiler on rear deck. Has rubber style wheels, opening hood, white interior, and green painted base. License plate has VA2008 with Virginia about the number. Comes in custom designed card blister package in small design to fit protecto plastic clam shell. Serial number on bottom of this car is #010
I hope that Richard makes as much profit as everyone else who's been buying the promo GMs from him and reselling them high, and would like to thank him for making such a fantastic promo.
I'd also like to give a special thanks to Hobby Talk member astroking2 for having posted about these cars in the first place. Since it's getting harder all the time to get a fair trade on the various hobby boards, it makes a big difference when you're able to buy a premium die-cast piece at a reasonable price. Many of us lucky enough to get these cars ahead of the auction mania did so because you got the word out here. So, thanks man!
Cheers,
gr6120
astroking2 03-29-2008, 10:17 AM GR6120,
Thanks for the kind words! :thumbsup:
Glad that I could help this cool car get in the hands of collectors who really like them.
And thanks to Richard at Ad-Ventures for giving us this car at a fair price. A great company with great people.
:wave:
jam5691 04-01-2008, 09:26 PM I was wondering if anyone read the last question to Richard's current Apple GM for sale? Definietly, not right...thanks, dim bulb!
gr6120 04-01-2008, 10:51 PM I was wondering if anyone read the last question to Richard's current Apple GM for sale? Definietly, not right...thanks, dim bulb!
I not only read it, but also responded with some words of support for Richard and AD-Ventures. You're right ... whoever posted the question is not only dim, but also bitter. What a shame.
rattlehed 04-02-2008, 06:05 PM Whoever had the gaul to make that statement to Richard is obviously not following the storyline surrounding this greenie. Furthermore it sounds like this guy needs a sound butt whipping! On top of it all the guy would probably never admit it here. This is probably one of the cheapskates opening mystery cars in the store or returning 5 or 10 packs minus chase pieces with cheapo substitutions. What a jerk.
jam5691 04-02-2008, 08:05 PM I too sent support.
The only thing I could think of, as to the question & then the misguided statement, is that two carded GM's were for sale on the bay at a few days difference & they were from the same city & state. One bayer has high feedback & one has low. The policy (as was fair) was 1 per household for each Apple Gm item. (Please don't make me explain that statement. If I have to, turn the bulb off.) As we know, that can be impossible to police. Dim bulb should have done more research.
Kind regards.
Drdealone 04-03-2008, 05:40 AM That comment to Richard was so unfair it hurts. He is the nicest guy around and he does not need to hear such grief that from someone who is under-informed.
Oh well.
DrDeal
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