which one guys?

which one guys?

There all the Same....

ANY OF THEM BUT THE IB'S:thumbsup:

which one guys?

ENER-G 4600 cells are one sweet cell:thumbsup::thumbsup:
www.promatchracing.com

Raymond

EnerG 4600 = EP4600 for performance (lets not argue about whether they are actually the same since it doesn't matter here)

The IB4600s, despite their blackeye with the old 4200s blowing up, seem to be running just fine for me. They have slightly higher voltage, slightly higher runtime and unfortunately higher IR from what I've seen.

The best cell would be the EP4200, unfotunately as far as I know you can't get them anymore unless someone has old stock lying around.

www.slingshotbatteries.com for STRONG EP4200's or E-Power 4500's.

Man did some one say there all the same. :eek:

I have done Lot's of Testing,Racing and Matching, with EP, Ener-G and IB.
all I can say is they all Have plenty of Power and great Number's.

Here are the Matcher's I Buy 4600

1. SMC (Ener-G)
2. JBR (EP)
3. Promatch (Ener-G)
4. TQ Cell's (IB-Ener-G)
5. Power Push (EP)
6. MCM Cell's (IB-EP-Ener-G)

i race ener-g and the ebs i have a ib and it is just a practice pack b/c it sucks

There all the same man. :jest:

At the Green Bay BRL Race it seemed to me most were running EnerG's.

IB cells ran great in Florida.




Adam Liehr

I do not know if this is true, but I heard that EP & EnerG are the same manufacturer.

??????


Peter

I do not know if this is true, but I heard that EP & EnerG are the same manufacturer.

??????


Peter

Same manufacturer, yes. But not necessary the same grade. You will get diff grade cells if you can pull the proper strings from the manufacturers. Promatch and SMC teamed up and got themselves the EnerG4600 shrink. They're currently picking up EP cells but they have the freedom to switch to other cells as well (Grepow or anyother ... won't be Intellect though since they signed an agreement with T).

Steve.

All I have for 4600's is EP's, so I can't compare the other brands.

I have over 20 runs on my packs and finally got the courage to cycle 1 the other day, I hate cycling. It cycled 537 runtime, 6.1 IR's @ 30 amp discharge, thought that was incredible for the age and run 2 or 3 times a day. Very happy with EP4600's.

All I have for 4600's is EP's, so I can't compare the other brands.

I have over 20 runs on my packs and finally got the courage to cycle 1 the other day, I hate cycling. It cycled 537 runtime, 6.1 IR's, thought that was incredible for the age and run 2 or 3 times a day. Very happy with EP4600's.

...almost identical to my best cells with a 5.5 IR thrown in here and there. Where do you get yours? lol.

I am also very happy as I NEVER cycle cells (I thought I was losing performance and wanted to eliminate a variable) and came up with the same #'s after months of use...shameless plug....get ready....JBR :thumbsup:

I am also very happy as I NEVER cycle cells (I thought I was losing performance and wanted to eliminate a variable) and came up with the same #'s after months of use.

OK, If you NEVER cycle your cells then what is your procedure? Do you discharce and tray them before use? and if you DO tray them how low do you take the cells before a recharge? and what about storage?

All for now
Jack

OK, If you NEVER cycle your cells then what is your procedure? Do you discharce and tray them before use? and if you DO tray them how low do you take the cells before a recharge? and what about storage?

All for now
Jack

Jack,

I run EVERY week, therefore, (approx. 45 min before charge) I discharge to 4.00V as a pack (@ 30 amps)...equalize each cell to 1V...then charge. I don't discharge after the run and leave them 'til the following week. Never had a problem and performance is still there without discharging after the run. I make sure they never fall below 1.2V per cell. Voila!

What do you use to equalize them? Those numbers are way better than what we are getting. The IR's are up around 7 for the Ener-G's, and EP 4600's that we have.

Thanks Jason, That sound pretty standard except for the not cycling part and the 4.0 at 30 amps. Most people I know go to 3.6.

Thanks
Jack

.... Most people I know go to 3.6.

Thanks
Jack

I wonder why?:confused:

which one guys?


The ones that will charge and NOT go BOOM!


I would stay with Pro-Match and Hefty cells.....Ener-G or EPs ........Stay away from the IBs, they tend to blow up!

What do you use to equalize them? Those numbers are way better than what we are getting. The IR's are up around 7 for the Ener-G's, and EP 4600's that we have.

Joel...Novak SE :thumbsup:


Once in a blue moon I will borrow a 0-30 if the program is moving too fast to equalize properly.

Cycle settings on T35:

7.0 Amps w/ .02 cutoff...120 sec delay...repeak 7.0 Amps w/ .01 cutoff...discharge 30 Amps to 4.00V.

I wonder why?:confused:

.90 per cell x 4 cells = 3.6

.90 per cell x 4 cells = 3.6

yeah.... I know..
what I meant was, why do guys take them to 3.6...
most matchers, I believe are suggesting 4.0.

But I kind of go along with Jason. For the regular guys,
if you are just concerned about keeping voltage in the pack,
there really isn't a lot of sense in dropping them down,
and then putting more in.
I know... the 'theory' is that they will have equal voltage.
The reality is, after a few races, they tend to vary in voltage
by Thursday anyway...
I think... as long as you don't let them drop below ~1V ,
you're going to tray them before charging regardless.
Starting out your charge with equalized cells.

If you do believe it's important that they all stay exactly
the same, then you'd better keep an eye on them all week,
or do as Steve suggests, use a nurse.
imo, of course..

.90V/cell cutoff is now considered by most matchers to be detrimental to the cell. When cycling there is only a small amount of runtime from 4.00V to 3.60V...the risk of "hurting" a cell is not worth being the winner of the Turbo 35 runtime championship. lol.

You guys need to get off single cells. Try the Orion 3600 lipo. The B/l speedos are made for lipos too.

You guys need to get off single cells. Try the Orion 3600 lipo. The B/l speedos are made for lipos too.

Hmmm... I swore this thread was about 4600's... not 3600 LiPo's ;)

i hear the new Ib 4600's are just as faulty as the 4200's :( is there another battery war?

Been running the IB 4600's since they came out, and no problems. Haven't blown a cell yet, and I've abused the crap outta a few packs.

But then again, I haven't ever blown up a pack (knock on wood lol).

I might suggest the Trinity IB 4600's.... they seem to produce good results at the birds. ;)


-Adam Liehr