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ferret
02-29-2008, 11:59 PM
Why are all of the online dealers out of the complete sets of the new Road Trip series??

The green Caprice wagon cannot be found anywhere online or at the retail level.

What gives????:(:confused:

jedimario
03-01-2008, 12:07 AM
Everyone else wants them too :wave:

craftymore
03-01-2008, 12:42 AM
They were all bought by demo derby drivers who want 1/64 scale models to compliment their 1/1 wagons.:woohoo:

I do remember a few weeks ago one guy on a derby forum saying he bought an old's entire lot of caprice wagons.

JeepXJLover
03-01-2008, 12:45 AM
I wanted an extra one for that purpose too, they will start showing up again soon. I want the ugly 13 Customs wagon for that though, its ugly to begin with so messing it up won't hurt my feelings.

tex
03-01-2008, 07:16 AM
Everyone else wants them too :wave:

i know i do

Dragnet_Supporter
03-01-2008, 11:23 AM
I've been looking for them too. Sold out fast everywhere.

Lovemy71Camaro
03-01-2008, 12:25 PM
I like how one OLD gouged everyone a couple bucks for that wagon too. :cool:

Dragnet_Supporter
03-01-2008, 12:40 PM
I like how one OLD gouged everyone a couple bucks for that wagon too. :cool:

I'm having no choice but to go with OLDs for some things these days. But that was one of the things that has kept me away from them, and still makes me a bit hesitant. The prices are high enough for JLs, shipping costs make them higher, I really can't aford to add on that extra buck or two for the special cars.

I say the OLDs should do like comic shops used to (or still do)...and that's start a subscription program at a ten percent discount. Everyone puts together a list of their wants and put in a preorder for a certain number of cars. Pre-orders are for the entire set, which is probably easier for the OLDs, so they don't get stuck with peg hangers, but not for most people. So why not have a minumum number of cars to be added to a list for each month, or maybe a three month period. Would the amount of new customers make it worth while for them? I don't know. But I'm thinking some smart business man who knows the numbers on such things should come up with a plan we can all benifit from.

Either that or LC needs to get their distribution problems fixed.

96cutlass
03-01-2008, 08:29 PM
I want that wagon too. I found the gold one from Those 70s Cars at TRU, but I put it back. Just wasn't interested without the wood on the sides. I love that pea green metallic too:thumbsup:

DadsCoronet
03-01-2008, 08:40 PM
An OLD I spoke with on Friday told me the Desoto Police car and the Caprice Wagon from Road Trip are "officially sold out".:confused:

Looks like the secondary market will be buzzing with these.:rolleyes:

ferret
03-02-2008, 12:17 AM
"An OLD I spoke with on Friday told me the Desoto Police car and the Caprice Wagon from Road Trip are "officially sold out"."


So, this means all of the OLD will NEVER have those models in stock again???:confused::


That is just plain stupid. JL/RC2 is really to blame for the terrible lack of vision when it comes to distribution though.

Now I have to search on E-Bay and swap meets....:(

LIGHTNING44
03-02-2008, 09:02 AM
"An OLD I spoke with on Friday told me the Desoto Police car and the Caprice Wagon from Road Trip are "officially sold out"."


So, this means all of the OLD will NEVER have those models in stock again???:confused::


That is just plain stupid. JL/RC2 is really to blame for the terrible lack of vision when it comes to distribution though.

Now I have to search on E-Bay and swap meets....:(

It's not jl/rc2 fault. If you really wanted it you should have considered pre ordering it. Everyone knew these would be hot sellers so you have to act fast if you want to get them. Even if they produced more, they would still sell as fast.

kevman
03-02-2008, 09:25 PM
They were all bought by demo derby drivers who want 1/64 scale models tobe destroyed in 1/64 scale demo derbies


:D

ferret
03-03-2008, 01:13 AM
"It's not jl/rc2 fault. If you really wanted it you should have considered pre ordering it. Everyone knew these would be hot sellers so you have to act fast if you want to get them. Even if they produced more, they would still sell as fast."


Ok, what about the folks who do not have access to OLD or cannot afford the shipping charges, and must buy JL models at the local retail level such as TRU, Wal-Mart, etc????

JL/RC2 cannot see fit to at least distribute the cars in question in the retail setting at a reasonable level??

Karl
03-03-2008, 10:30 AM
"It's not jl/rc2 fault. If you really wanted it you should have considered pre ordering it. Everyone knew these would be hot sellers so you have to act fast if you want to get them. Even if they produced more, they would still sell as fast."
- Agree! Most all OLD's offer pre-order and Milezone's is trying a JL subscription program this year...


Ok, what about the folks who do not have access to OLD or cannot afford the shipping charges, and must buy JL models at the local retail level such as TRU, Wal-Mart, etc????
- EVERYONE with access to a computer at home, their local library, or even a telephone has access to an OLD. And - shipping charges are cheap compared to cost of gas.

JL/RC2 cannot see fit to at least distribute the cars in question in the retail setting at a reasonable level??
- The quantity made was probably close to appropriate, I guarantee that green station wagon would have been the ultimate peg-warmer after the few freaks that wanted one got one (I got my freak on via pre-order).
and so it goes...

Dragnet_Supporter
03-03-2008, 01:01 PM
Some good points here overall. Making me think I should indeed preorder the latest Wicked wagons as Russ sugested so I won't miss the BWF. Problem is, that's the only car I really want from the set. Will have to give those another look.

I got the RT Desoto when everyone else was sold out on ebay from Diecast Warehouse, retail price, plus shipping...no additional added cost for the hot car. It's a great little piece too.

Karl
03-03-2008, 03:13 PM
The only complaint I have about the RT set was the size of the cherry on the Fairlane. They got it right on the Desoto and should have used that same one on the Fairlane but nope, somebody thought the 32 gallon size looked and fit 'just right'...

(yeah, I know it's O/T but didn't want to start a whole new thread just for a light)

Movie Car Mania
03-03-2008, 03:26 PM
Just checked RC2 and the 07 Road Trips are still available. Who wants a complete set? Drop me a line. If I get enough, I will place an order.

RW
www.moviecarmania.com

ferret
03-03-2008, 04:28 PM
"Just checked RC2 and the 07 Road Trips are still available. Who wants a complete set? Drop me a line. If I get enough, I will place an order.

RW"

Yes, I would like to order the complete set. As long as the price is within reason however.

Thanks!

Movie Car Mania
03-03-2008, 06:40 PM
Ferret,
Just sent you a PM. Thanks

RW
www.moviecarmania.com

Snow owl
03-03-2008, 06:42 PM
:wave:What is the est. cost for the set?

Movie Car Mania
03-03-2008, 06:56 PM
Snow Owl,
Sent a PM. I don't want to break the forums rules and post the price here.

RW
www.moviecarmania.com

Snow owl
03-03-2008, 07:12 PM
:wave:Got it thanks will let you know soon.

Macs_Little_Car
03-05-2008, 01:12 PM
I'm having no choice but to go with OLDs for some things these days. But that was one of the things that has kept me away from them, and still makes me a bit hesitant. The prices are high enough for JLs, shipping costs make them higher, I really can't aford to add on that extra buck or two for the special cars.

I say the OLDs should do like comic shops used to (or still do)...and that's start a subscription program at a ten percent discount. Everyone puts together a list of their wants and put in a preorder for a certain number of cars. Pre-orders are for the entire set, which is probably easier for the OLDs, so they don't get stuck with peg hangers, but not for most people. So why not have a minumum number of cars to be added to a list for each month, or maybe a three month period. Would the amount of new customers make it worth while for them? I don't know. But I'm thinking some smart business man who knows the numbers on such things should come up with a plan we can all benifit from.

Either that or LC needs to get their distribution problems fixed.

We did the pre-resevation thing and it worked great, didn't have to buy full sets either. Always worked fine and was no big deal to keep track of, just needed some boxes to keep the cars in until they were ready to ship.

Takes a certain kind of dealer to do that though, most are not willing to work that hard for their customers

Lovemy71Camaro
03-05-2008, 01:51 PM
We did the pre-resevation thing and it worked great, didn't have to buy full sets either. Always worked fine and was no big deal to keep track of, just needed some boxes to keep the cars in until they were ready to ship.

Takes a certain kind of dealer to do that though, most are not willing to work that hard for their customers

Amen to that Rob.. You spoiled me big time. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Dragnet_Supporter
03-05-2008, 07:34 PM
We did the pre-resevation thing and it worked great, didn't have to buy full sets either. Always worked fine and was no big deal to keep track of, just needed some boxes to keep the cars in until they were ready to ship.

Takes a certain kind of dealer to do that though, most are not willing to work that hard for their customers

I think you've hit the nail, Rob. It's rapidly becoming an OLD's market, and those who are either legitimate business people, or step up to the plate with customer care are going to be the one's who end up getting the business, not to mention the trust of people who fear factory defects in having someone other than themselves picking and packing their diecast.

I haven't had any bad experiences from online purchases yet, don't get me wrong. I haven't had that many experiences with OLDs altogether. But I know a lot of people are afraid of it. And I know financially, the idea of ordering entire sets is going to prevent me from getting much of what I want if it doesn't show up in retail.

Lummox
03-05-2008, 10:37 PM
I thought that Milezones has a subscription program, no?

Movie Car Mania
03-05-2008, 10:51 PM
I agree with a lot of what the members are saying, but the reality of it is that the small OLDs like myself who REALLY do care about my customers and my product aren't the root of the problem. I take pride at inspecting each and every car that I sell as I package them up for shipment. I will not ship a car that is damaged or have packaging that is damaged unless I have informed the customer of this fact. There is a misconceptions that OLDs have an easier time than the brick and mortar stores, but the fact is that is it is EXTREMELY tough. You have to compete with every other OLD and eBay to boot. Not to mention the big boys: Amazon, Target, Toy-R-Us and the DADDY Walmart.

The Walmart effect is stifling to the small businessman like me on 1/64 scale cars. They have IMMENSE buying power and are able to sell 1/64 scale cars at prices that are at or just slightly more than my wholesale. Now factor in the credit card processing fees on all my sales and selling single 1/64 scale cars is real tough. I do it because I was a collector first and became an OLD second. I LOVE this hobby and Movie Car Mania is a labor of love. But, sometimes love hurts.

I would love to be your supplier for 1/64 scale cars, but in order to stay in and grow my business it has to be financially feasible. I welcome any suggestions on getting this pre-order deal ironed out.

Just my two cents.

Thanks

RW
www.moviecarmania.com

Macs_Little_Car
03-06-2008, 08:34 PM
I thought that Milezones has a subscription program, no?

Big difference between a subscription program where you have full sets on pre order and one where you reserve just certain cars with certain wheels. I don't know of anybody in business that does that now

JP2-NC-JL-CRAZY
03-06-2008, 09:39 PM
We did the pre-resevation thing and it worked great, didn't have to buy full sets either. Always worked fine and was no big deal to keep track of, just needed some boxes to keep the cars in until they were ready to ship.

Takes a certain kind of dealer to do that though, most are not willing to work that hard for their customers

Amen to that Rob.. You spoiled me big time.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I'll second that.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I have found a very good replacement in Mark #10.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

JP2

Dragnet_Supporter
03-07-2008, 03:15 PM
I have found a very good replacement in Mark #10.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

JP2

I've ordered from Mark without difficulty. And Russ is very prompt an patient with my questions as I attempt to make this transaction. My problem really stems from two points:

1) My ignorance of the ordering process (and I appreciate Movie Car Mania pointing out some of the difficulties).

2) My financial standpoint, that won't allow me to keep ordering complete sets on a regular basis to get all the cars I want.

No one is going to get rich from my ordering, but I would like to be able to work something out. But it seems that of no one can predict having single cars, or to any accurate degree what single will remain after preordering is done, then I suppose I'm sort of screwed in both retail and with the OLDs. I wish I could just order up sets of everything that had appeal, make myself and whoever I bought them from happy, but I can't. So I run frantically from store to store and OLD to OLD, hoping someone will have the handfull of cars I really want--and can afford--from one month to the next, and at the time of that month when I've got the funds in hands.

I know there are others in similar situations, and even those who are not, that seem to be missing out on cars we want. And if I had more insight into how the ordering process worked between the OLDs and the distributors, what options they had available, I may have more helpful suggestions.

robertwadehall
03-07-2008, 03:25 PM
It's not jl/rc2 fault. If you really wanted it you should have considered pre ordering it. Everyone knew these would be hot sellers so you have to act fast if you want to get them. Even if they produced more, they would still sell as fast.
Exactly..I preorder anything that I'm certain I want....I haven't tried finding a JL or other diecast in a physical store many years...

Movie Car Mania
03-07-2008, 09:34 PM
I've been racking my brain to see how I could get a pre-order program to work out. I will do some more thinking and sleeping on it. Hopefully I will come up with a solution that would allow everyone to get what they want and for me to not have a number of the cars that everyone didn't want leftover. HMMMMMM


RW
www.moviecarmania.com

ferret
03-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Well, I am one very lucky guy tonight:thumbsup: I found a complete MIB/New set of the new release of Road Trip, including the 73 Caprice wagon, and the Desoto police car!!!!

$34.00 DELIVERED!!

I also almost made a HUGE mistake by bidding on just the Caprice wagon on the bay. My final bid was $20.00, but thank goodness someone actually outbid me by a few cents!! I felt that $20.00 was my limit.

When I found a complete set, I nearly had a heart attack! It was the LAST set the dealer had!

Please do not ask me who the dealer is, as I want to keep that info private.

Thanks to everyone who has given their opinion in this thread and offered potential help in locating this set!

Snow owl
03-08-2008, 04:15 PM
:wave:My problem with the pre-order option was more the timing than anything else. My wife got laid-off right before Christmas. We had other priorities and was unable to spare the cash so now I am unable to find the castings i would like to add to my collection. I will continue looking where I can and hope I can find them some how, but if i can't I guess it just something I will have to deal with.