http://www.greenlightcollectibles.com/136
haha lets send in requests for rambler station wagons!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sure wish Mac and Kevin would really listen as they say in their response to you Ian... the wheel W-I-D-T-H-S and marginal detail is ignored by them on ALL of these boards.

GL is almost there....

I sure hope they make the 66 Galaxie in the pic. I used to own a 7 Litre version and would love to see GL do a 1:64 of it.

I would go crazy if they did a 66 Galaxie. I even have acess to a ton of pictures if they need them. :thumbsup:
Just let me know Mac and I will gladly hook you up in any way possible.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/66_xl_profile_reduced_1_1_1.JPG



:woohoo:

My grand father had a 66 Galaxie but his was made into a response vehicle for his police dept way back then I still remember the car and the flashing lights when he would go on a call it was a blue car the lights were inside on the dash and back shelf even had a siren and a very loud speaker

If GL did a '7-liter' Galaxie, I'd stand in line to buy a bunch. :cool:

I also had a '66 Galaxie 7 Litre many years ago ... Would love to see one in 1/64 scale !

Well it seems that some of you would be very excited to see a '66 Galaxie. I have some good news - we are working on a '65 and a '66 Galaxie right now. No official release date yet but it is on the way.

And in response to Sheldon - we are listening regarding the wheels. I have read your comments many many times in your numerous posts. We are working on this - it takes lots of time to develop new wheels especially when you have an existing "catalog" of wheels that fit certain tire sizes. I think if you look at the 2007/8 Shelby GT500 with the stock wheels (not the custom Torque Thrust style rims) you can see we are addressing this issue. See also the new Firebird/Trans Am casting wheels and tire sizes. Please stick with us as we are always trying to improve.

Thanks for all your support everyone -

Matt

Thanks Matt for the response.

If the wheel widths are being narrowed to a more realistic girth *AND* the body panel wheel wells are *slightly* shrunk to fit the more realistically sized wheels (no reason to over compensate and make them too small), there will be two birds killed with one stone:

1) better appeal for MOST collectors (there are always some hopeless collectors who like the toyish look)
2) GL saves on raw material (no reason to waist all that rubber and plastic)

Anyway, I am very glad to hear this good news!!

Now, I have a second task to bring to you guys.... any chance you may release a hyper detailed line to address the Shelby Collectibles-M2 level of detail?

One could argue one of these two vendors have inconsistent quality issues (verdict still out on M2), but no-one can argue their noble attempt at detail. It would be great if GL could do a line with this detail, but also keep the quality - and some of us would NOT mind paying an extra buck or two for this!! Of course, for those penny pinchers, GL could still keep the base line going.

Anyway, I am glad you responded!!!

Hi Sheldon,

Regarding your points, the raw material cost is basically a wash. With thinner wheels you end using a little more metal which costs more than the plastic and rubber. And for appeal, well that is all in the eye of the beholder. We try to make a great collectible so that it appeals to everyone.

As far as Shelby Collectibles and M2, I haven't seen M2 in person yet but they look to have some nice detail. We are always discussing increasing detail whenever possible. However, many factors go into this decision including whether the body lines will still hold up well with the doors, trunk, etc, the overall effect on cost and how our collectors will respond. Don't think we aren't listening, it is just very difficult to please everyone all the time and keep our prices reasonable.

Keep up the feedback -

Matt

I am really not one for opening doors. When would I open them, once to say I could? It seems more like a challenge than a benefit to the cost it would take to do it.

To respectfully counter Wyatt....

I *LIKE* diecast cars, as long as they are done correctly.

I *LIKE* opening panels, as long as they are done correctly.

I *LIKE* real rubber tires on diecast, as long as they are done correctly and in proportion.

I *LIKE* details (preferably with separate components when possible), as long as they are done correctly.

It is all about execution... execution... execution!!!!

If the only diecast company in the world was HW doing the $1 kiddie cars and sticking to them, I would NOT collect any diecast as an adult. Luckily they did an excellent job with the Legends and 100% lines for us collectors.

If the only diecast company in the world was JL doing the $3-$4 wildly out of proportion cars and sticking to them, I would NOT collect any diecast. This is a prime example of a company with *excellent* and varied subjects, but marginal and inconsistent execution.

If the only diecast company in the world was Kyosho doing the $15 curbside cars, I would NOT collect any diecast. This is a prime example of a company only going half way, and not giving value (overcharging).

For those who prefer curbside (no openings), you already have your vast selections as proven by the overwhelming supply of curbside diecast from US, Euro, and Asian companies... I speak for those of us (if you agree) who like opening panels and furious detail.

Let's not discourage any diecast company from doing things at all... let's encourage them for doing as much as they can do, and properly.

Thanks goodness, there are companies doing more... this is one of the reasons why I collect diecast and LOVE it.

Good and bad diecast on any detail level, is analogous to a marriage.... if done wrongly, can be a literal hell (which some of you sadly may be able to testify). However, if done correctly, well, you know what I mean!!

Good and bad diecast on any detail level, is analogous to a marriage.... if done wrongly, can be a literal hell (which some of you sadly may be able to testify). However, if done correctly, well, you know what I mean!!

I think you're over reacting just a bit. If a toy company makes a mistake it's a literal hell? Last time i checked these are toy cars sold in the toy isle. It seems like you want high detail without paying a higher price which is pretty hard to do. Greenlight is probably the best between these two things. If you want high detail, go collect auto art, gmp, ect. As for the opening parts, im with wyatt. Opening doors give cars ugly gaps and lines. Whats the point of having opening doors? It's not like you can go inside or anything. On 1:18 cars however i love opening parts, but thats because the open parts show detail I bet 99.8% of collectors are very pleased with what GL has done.

Well it seems that some of you would be very excited to see a '66 Galaxie. I have some good news - we are working on a '65 and a '66 Galaxie right now. No official release date yet but it is on the way.

And in response to Sheldon - we are listening regarding the wheels. I have read your comments many many times in your numerous posts. We are working on this - it takes lots of time to develop new wheels especially when you have an existing "catalog" of wheels that fit certain tire sizes. I think if you look at the 2007/8 Shelby GT500 with the stock wheels (not the custom Torque Thrust style rims) you can see we are addressing this issue. See also the new Firebird/Trans Am casting wheels and tire sizes. Please stick with us as we are always trying to improve.

Thanks for all your support everyone -

Matt

I can't wait for the 66 Galaxie! (65 will be cool too!). Now if only a 67 would come out too I'd really be thrilled!

I bet 99.8% of collectors are very pleased with what GL has done.

I guess I'm in that .2%. :wave: They just don't make anything I collect.

i don't know why but i am beginning to have modsquad / VelocityArts flashbacks.:freak:

If the only diecast company in the world was Kyosho doing the $15 curbside cars, I would NOT collect any diecast. This is a prime example of a company only going half way, and not giving value (overcharging).



I guess I am a "curbside" collector. I have bought 50 Kyosho's in the past few months and quite a few Biantes. Besides getting representations of cars not available anywhere else I get highly detailed cars that I think would look terrible if they had the opening doors with gaps, etc. found in most other similar samples.

As I said in another forum I find the true beauty in GL cars to be the sample of cars they choose and not the quality of the sample.

Atencio,

Like I said earlier, its all in the execution. Tight tolerances are achievable for opening panels, especially if the modeler does things correctly. I have several 1/64 production diecasts with all opening panels as well as customs, and they look amazing.

With respect to Kyosho and curbside, have you checked out CM's? They more or less do the exact subject line as Kyosho, but in the later releases do indeed have at least the engine opening. They look excellent, and setting them side by side with Kyosho (specifically, the Lambos) the CMs are nicer. Not only that, the CM's paint surface is a more subtle, not so thick like the Kyosho.

You can also check out Tamiya's JGTC line (briefly rebadged as Muscle Machines a couple of years ago). Their castings had nice detail, with opening doors that were excellent. The problem here is that they had NO engine detail, odd choice indeed.

In any event, I agree with you that Kyosho has some cool subjects, like the Japanese LeMans/GT cars.

Lastly, I think if GL puts their minds to it, they could probably achieve a nice diecast with all openings. The tolerances on the opening hoods on their cars are fairly decent.

we are listening regarding the wheels. I have read your comments many many times in your numerous posts. We are working on this - it takes lots of time to develop new wheels especially when you have an existing "catalog" of wheels that fit certain tire sizes. I think if you look at the 2007/8 Shelby GT500 with the stock wheels (not the custom Torque Thrust style rims) you can see we are addressing this issue. See also the new Firebird/Trans Am casting wheels and tire sizes. Please stick with us as we are always trying to improve. Matt

I suspected this was the case given GL's track record of improvements. We wanted better paint and I believe we got it, we wanted correctly sized tampos and they were corrected, we wanted correctly proportioned wheels and they started showing up on newer castings. I am very happy to hear about the continued work on the wheels since I do believe that wheels and tires do make up half the look of the car. This is much more important than opening panels.....eventhough I am a fan of opening panels when done well. I am also a fan of "jeweled" headlights and taillights.

At any rate, this is a prime example of why GL has become as popular as it is... they do indeed listen and react in most cases. Remember the survey they encouraged us to take? Not only was this brilliant marketing work on their part, they actually used the information they gathered.... How about those garage pieces they are bringing us in the Hobby series :thumbsup:

Now, since we have once again concluded that GL does indeed listen, I'd like to make a couple of very simple requests:

1. Keep the Mustang castings coming, especially the verts.
2. Please do the 2007 Mustang GT/CS Convertible casting in Vista Blue like this one :):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/sdog70/My%202007%20Mustang%20GTCS/Mustang3Small.jpg

I know....a shameless plug.

I am a GL collector and I don't believe it gets any better as far as detail for $5 or less(not much better anyway).JL priced out at $3 many moons ago. Factor in inflation in production and logistical costs alone and there's your price hike over the last 10 yrs. Details such as a trunk that opens w/all the accessories,spare, etc. or inserts for the opening doors do exist in 1/64 but you will pay a lot more for it. It's not that I don't expect improvements based on customer FB (which is something GL is becoming very good at). I expect nothing but. I just don't think some of these options are viable at the current price point. I agree to a small point with the wheel thing, the stock vehicles should look stock. Some of the tires could be thinned out a bit but I'm not into bicycle tires either.JMO;)

wow did i EVER open a can of worms!!!!

................

Thanks for mentioning CM Sheldon. I decided to look up the make after you mentioned it and found out I had one of the Lancias which I had listed as unknown manufacturer. You are correct. It is a very nice car. I think I might have a couple of more in boxes. Will have to check. The JGTC cars are by far my favorite diecast even though they they have no undercarriage detail. I have 4 or 5 of the muscle machines versions.

What would you consider to be your favorite choice given your requirements?
The Shelbys look great though they tend to have very poor choices of color and limited variety. I wonder how the doors will be given a few years down the road.

For me though it is all about the car. I wanted a 69 Boss 429 bad and Greenlight made it for $3.00 and some change. I wanted a Pagani Zonda and Motormax made it for $0.59. If Greenlight made a 70 Camaro with opening doors, eh, I probably wouldn't care all that much. Us diecast collectors are very similar in our hobby yet very different.

Thanks for mentioning CM Sheldon. I decided to look up the make after you mentioned it and found out I had one of the Lancias which I had listed as unknown manufacturer. You are correct. It is a very nice car. I think I might have a couple of more in boxes. Will have to check. The JGTC cars are by far my favorite diecast even though they they have no undercarriage detail. I have 4 or 5 of the muscle machines versions.


The real cars have no undercarriage detail either. Some racing series (like F1) do this in order to help limit aerodynamic research spending thereby saving money for the lesser teams.


What would you consider to be your favorite choice given your requirements?
The Shelbys look great though they tend to have very poor choices of color and limited variety. I wonder how the doors will be given a few years down the road.


I love the Shelbys (limited subject since Shelby will obviously only be doing Shelby cars), and of course the new M2s (appears to be focusing on 50s subjects, but could surprise us since they can do anything they want).

My favorite castings are the HW Legends and some 100%, as well as the GMP Corvette (opening doors, removable engine cowling, great detail), the Ertl American Muscle series (the best proportioned 1/64 castings I have ever seen, irregular quality though), and lastly the Muscle Machines Chevy Dragsters (especially the red and black 57 Chevys).

Since this is the GL board, I must admit that the 70 Camaro is an excellent casting, though I like the rim profiles the front wheels are too wide. Additionally, I think this casting would have been even that much better with all opening doors.


For me though it is all about the car. I wanted a 69 Boss 429 bad and Greenlight made it for $3.00 and some change. I wanted a Pagani Zonda and Motormax made it for $0.59. If Greenlight made a 70 Camaro with opening doors, eh, I probably wouldn't care all that much. Us diecast collectors are very similar in our hobby yet very different.

Since cars *are* mechanical devices, I like to see them open up, the detail is always fascinating. Likewise, if not done properly, there is nothing more annoying..... the curbside cars are OK for kids, but for collectors, why not go all the way?

Thanks Matt for the response.

If the wheel widths are being narrowed to a more realistic girth *AND* the body panel wheel wells are *slightly* shrunk to fit the more realistically sized wheels (no reason to over compensate and make them too small), there will be two birds killed with one stone:

1) better appeal for MOST collectors (there are always some hopeless collectors who like the toyish look)
2) GL saves on raw material (no reason to waist all that rubber and plastic)

Anyway, I am very glad to hear this good news!!

Now, I have a second task to bring to you guys.... any chance you may release a hyper detailed line to address the Shelby Collectibles-M2 level of detail?

One could argue one of these two vendors have inconsistent quality issues (verdict still out on M2), but no-one can argue their noble attempt at detail. It would be great if GL could do a line with this detail, but also keep the quality - and some of us would NOT mind paying an extra buck or two for this!! Of course, for those penny pinchers, GL could still keep the base line going.

Anyway, I am glad you responded!!!

Sheldon, it is, in my opinion, extremely disrespectful to attack GreenLight a 2nd time after they took the time to address your concerns.

Incidently, do you not think that GreenLight doesn't watch the competition, do you really think (as MANY of you're posts seem to imply) that GreenLight has thier head in the sand?

You throw Shelby Collectibles out there (very likely on thier way out of business), and M2 (not even on the market yet).

What company will you trot out as an example when Shelby Collectibles fold up thier tents?

M2, from what I've seen, isn't all that impressive, the castings appear too narrow, too wide, & as with Shelby Collectibles, the door lines are offensive.
Of course I've only seen photos, but I'm prepared to stand by these comments.

Some of us have had issues with GreenLight's tire and wheel sizes (I myself do not), GreenLight has addressed this issue several times, yet you feel the need to continue bashing them.

My opinion is now, as it has always been, is that you are being unrealistic.
Your expectations are unrealistic, you have compared GreenLight unfavorabely against models that are priced well outside of thier price point, models that are not marketed the same way, not as readily available. Comparisons that are at the very least unrealistic, and IMO, ridiculous!

I love the Shelbys (limited subject since Shelby will obviously only be doing Shelby cars), and of course the new M2s (appears to be focusing on 50s subjects, but could surprise us since they can do anything they want).

My favorite castings are the HW Legends and some 100%, as well as the GMP Corvette (opening doors, removable engine cowling, great detail), the Ertl American Muscle series (the best proportioned 1/64 castings I have ever seen, irregular quality though), and lastly the Muscle Machines Chevy Dragsters (especially the red and black 57 Chevys).





Since cars *are* mechanical devices, I like to see them open up, the detail is always fascinating. Likewise, if not done properly, there is nothing more annoying..... the curbside cars are OK for kids, but for collectors, why not go all the way?
Again comparing Green Light to castings well outside thier price point.

The American Muscle series went under because of price and irregular quality.

Comparisons to M2, are not appropriate until people are able to see these cars in person.

I have a question for sheldon.

With all your requirements that you want Greenlight to do with a 1/64 scale diecast car......What are you willing to pay for the car?:confused:

I think Greenlight is doing a fine job!:thumbsup: They are correcting quality problems, and most importantly, they listen to collectors.

What company will you trot out as an example when Shelby Collectibles fold up thier tents?

I'm curious... what leads you to beleive this will occur? SC's do not hang on the pegs for long around here. Even if you don't like opening panels on your 1:64 collectibles, there is no denying that the proportions on the SC's are excellent.

BTW... IMO, Greenlight does need to adress the size of their wheels/tires, and I beleive they are doing that. Yes, Sheldon is a bit overzealous with his opinions, however, I feel that the proportions and realism of the wheels should not be overlooked. They are extremely important when producing an "authentic" "adult" collectible.

My local KMart has apparently quit selling the Shelby cars after having them on clearance. here they they just sat on the shelves. I have 2 of the Shelbys, but they don't exactly blow me away and besides, their content is way too narrowly focused for me anyways, now if they would do some of the Shelby Dodges.... ;)

Sheldon, it is, in my opinion, extremely disrespectful to attack GreenLight a 2nd time after they took the time to address your concerns.

Incidently, do you not think that GreenLight doesn't watch the competition, do you really think (as MANY of you're posts seem to imply) that GreenLight has thier head in the sand?

You throw Shelby Collectibles out there (very likely on thier way out of business), and M2 (not even on the market yet).

What company will you trot out as an example when Shelby Collectibles fold up thier tents?

M2, from what I've seen, isn't all that impressive, the castings appear too narrow, too wide, & as with Shelby Collectibles, the door lines are offensive.
Of course I've only seen photos, but I'm prepared to stand by these comments.

Some of us have had issues with GreenLight's tire and wheel sizes (I myself do not), GreenLight has addressed this issue several times, yet you feel the need to continue bashing them.

My opinion is now, as it has always been, is that you are being unrealistic.
Your expectations are unrealistic, you have compared GreenLight unfavorabely against models that are priced well outside of thier price point, models that are not marketed the same way, not as readily available. Comparisons that are at the very least unrealistic, and IMO, ridiculous!

This is the glorious pinnacle of capriciousness, and this blind loyalty is precisely what is harmful to the marketplace - and specifically GL who are not as good as they should be. These types of idle and complacent viewpoints are choice seeds for third world country's markets, not for a first world market whose supporting population that can pay for these "hobbies."

We are objectively speaking about GL castings as well as others with whom they can compare. Nothing more, nothing less.

You need a happy pill!!

I'm curious... what leads you to beleive this will occur? SC's do not hang on the pegs for long around here. Even if you don't like opening panels on your 1:64 collectibles, there is no denying that the proportions on the SC's are excellent.


I agree that SC will probably limit themselves to the very thin yet proprietary subject line. It would be great if they did expand, but I doubt it and if they do stop making diecasts, it would have more to do with the "completion" of their own subject line rather than "gone out of business".....


BTW... IMO, Greenlight does need to adress the size of their wheels/tires, and I beleive they are doing that. Yes, Sheldon is a bit overzealous with his opinions, however, I feel that the proportions and realism of the wheels should not be overlooked. They are extremely important when producing an "authentic" "adult" collectible.


This is a very objective matter. I do not *feel* anything. In any case, you do agree so I hope GL are aggressive with fixing the proportions. After all, if I want exaggerated cartoonish proportions, we have Muscle Machines.

I have a question for sheldon.

With all your requirements that you want Greenlight to do with a 1/64 scale diecast car......What are you willing to pay for the car?:confused:

I think Greenlight is doing a fine job!:thumbsup: They are correcting quality problems, and most importantly, they listen to collectors.

I am willing to pay their true worth. If a company puts forth a good effort with a high level of detail and undercharges, they obviously will suffer the economic consequences. Case in point: Ertl American Muscle in 1/64, *maybe* Shelby Collectibles (though we may never know since they only intend to do their own subject line which is mostly complete now anyway). I hope M2 pulls it out with their terrific debut (just received them, and they are an excellent value, perhaps too inexpensive if compared to GL and HW).

HW is probably the most overpriced I have ever seen for the kiddie cars (up to $5 for nicely painted clumps of metal that mildly resemble exhausted subjects).... I think their Legends and 100% collectible lines were expensive, but not so much that I would stop me from buying their products since they were very nicely done for the most part.

GL is almost there, and I do buy some of them. But for an average of $5/car, SC and M2 are way better values (perhaps these two are undercharging just slightly if GL, JL, and HW are getting away with this considering their limited features and detail). But because GL is more interactive with collectors on these boards, I have faith they may do something really nice one day - and charge for it but that is OK if it is justified with quality and detail.

JL is a crying mess, although I do have to admit I recently purchased a couple of their "Gold Series" cars that were reasonably nice for about $5/each.

The NASCAR castings (Action Elites and Team Caliber Owners series) were nicely detailed, but a tad overpriced at $10-$15/each....perhaps they should have been closer to $8-$10/each.... or SC and M2 should be closer to $20/each?

The Asian makes (Kyosho/CMs/HighSpeed/AutoArt) are quite overpriced at an average of $10-$12/car considering they are all curbside (perhaps this gross overcharge is due to our unfavorable exchange rates), but I do have many of these since they have cool subjects.

For 1/43 scale with completely opening panels, I am willing to pay more obviously. You can check out www.miniwerks.com, and specifically check out the MR and Feeling 43 cars.

Likewise, I have paid quite a bit more for customized 1/64.....

As you can see, it is quite relative. Some overcharge and others undercharge. Either way, I buy what I like. I am not rich, I just love this hobby!!

Did I answer your question? :)

Since cars *are* mechanical devices, I like to see them open up, the detail is always fascinating. Likewise, if not done properly, there is nothing more annoying..... the curbside cars are OK for kids, but for collectors, why not go all the way?

We are all different types of collectors. I know some very well respected in the diecast community collectors and their collections run the gamit of diecast cars.

At one point of time I was focused entirely on the realistic quality of diecast cars. My collection was pretty much 100% HW, Ertl, JL, and Biante. A firend of mine turned me on to off-brand non-U.S. diecast. He gave me some Buby and Muky from South America. The stuff from a technical quality-like view could never be confused for a GL or even a $0.59 Maisto. However, the cars I found added character to my collection.

I am in no way a "Greenlight walks on water" crowd. My opinion is that this hype just makes quality errors that GL makes seem more glaring. However I do buy every different GL casting (even that ugly[GL-wise]65 Chevelle).

This is the glorious pinnacle of capriciousness, and this blind loyalty is precisely what is harmful to the marketplace - and specifically GL who are not as good as they should be. These types of idle and complacent viewpoints are choice seeds for third world country's markets, not for a first world market whose supporting population that can pay for these "hobbies."

We are objectively speaking about GL castings as well as others with whom they can compare. Nothing more, nothing less.

You need a happy pill!!

I am not exhibiting blind loyalty, I have nearly 1500 castings in my personal collection, fewer than 20 are GreenLight because I can't get them where I am.

Who the hell are you to say that GreenLight isn't as good as they should be!?
GreenLight turns out an excellent product for the money, they are constantly striving to improve thier product. They listen to, and address thier customers wants and concerns.

Objectively speaking about GL castings? I would say that you all the way across the spectrum from objective! Your posts are vindictive and condescending, and you attack anyone that disagrees with you. There is not one bit of objectivity in your posts!

If you don't like GreenLight, don't buy them, nobody's twisting your arm.
Go back to your Shelby Collectibles, GMPs, 100% Hot Wheels and Kyoshos.

You need a happy Pill!-Where do you come off making a personal attack against me? There is certainly no other way to interpret this!
You do not know me, if you did, you'd know how completely inappropriate this is!

Luckily for you, this is a family friendly board.

Sheldon, why don't you take you're "objective" opinions and your derisive/condescening attitude somewhere else!

I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I can speak for myself, so here goes;

You should be banned! You bring nothing but negativity to the boards and level personal attacks at those that disagree with you!
Just my opinion.


I am fully aware that these are toys, but this transcends all that!


I wish that I could post my unedited thoughts and opinions here!!!!!!!

i think sheldon should step in and run greenlight. by looking at all his previous posts, he has the knowledge to turn greenlight around so they will have soaring profits and make it so that they will be appealing to the average collector considering what they charge for them.:rolleyes:

I am not exhibiting blind loyalty, I have nearly 1500 castings in my personal collection, fewer than 20 are GreenLight because I can't get them where I am.

Who the hell are you to say that GreenLight isn't as good as they should be!?
GreenLight turns out an excellent product for the money, they are constantly striving to improve thier product. They listen to, and address thier customers wants and concerns.

Objectively speaking about GL castings? I would say that you all the way across the spectrum from objective! Your posts are vindictive and condescending, and you attack anyone that disagrees with you. There is not one bit of objectivity in your posts!

If you don't like GreenLight, don't buy them, nobody's twisting your arm.
Go back to your Shelby Collectibles, GMPs, 100% Hot Wheels and Kyoshos.

You need a happy Pill!-Where do you come off making a personal attack against me? There is certainly no other way to interpret this!
You do not know me, if you did, you'd know how completely inappropriate this is!

Luckily for you, this is a family friendly board.

Sheldon, why don't you take you're "objective" opinions and your derisive/condescening attitude somewhere else!

I cannot speak for anyone but myself, but I can speak for myself, so here goes;

You should be banned! You bring nothing but negativity to the boards and level personal attacks at those that disagree with you!
Just my opinion.


I am fully aware that these are toys, but this transcends all that!


I wish that I could post my unedited thoughts and opinions here!!!!!!!

YOU STARTED THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. IT IS A MATTER OF RECORD!!!!!

I am only here to talk objectively about diecasts and collecting. Period.

You say all kinds of outrageous things of other companies that are clearly untrue.

i think sheldon should step in and run greenlight. by looking at all his previous posts, he has the knowledge to turn greenlight around so they will have soaring profits and make it so that they will be appealing to the average collector considering what they charge for them.:rolleyes:

Interesting thought!

But I believe they would be too expensive.

By the way, I already have a profitable company that I run, how else could I afford this hobby?...

YOU STARTED THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. IT IS A MATTER OF RECORD!!!!!If you take me pointing out the negative and condescending tone of virtually all of your posts, or pointing out that it was rude for you to fire from the other hip after GreenLight took the time to respond to your inquiry, then I guess you're right. Don't hold your breath waitin' on an apology!

I am only here to talk objectively about diecasts and collecting. Period.
I've yet to see a post from you that could even laughingly be called 'objective'.
You say all kinds of outrageous things of other companies that are clearly untrue.

If you're refering to my comments that Shelby Collectibles may be about to shut it down, I guess we'll see won't we.

I see this thread is turning into something that it should not be. I read these boards mainly for two reasons. 1) To gather information regarding the 1:64 diecast hobby and 2) to discuss my opinions regarding specific diecast subjects, lines, etc.

Perhaps we can agree on the following:

1. Sheldon (and anyone else) should be allowed to express his opinions freely. I actually agree with some of his points. I can and have been critical about specific subjects from Greenlight, JL, and other diecast companies. That is one of the reasons this forum exists, to discuss the great and not so great characteristics of our little cars. We are fortunate enough to have a diecast manufacturer read these forums and use our constructive criticism. Let's not allow this opportunity to go to waste.

2. Sheldon should tone down his negative comments a bit. Sheldon... although I agree with many of your points and can appreciate them, the manner in which you come across is waaaay too negative. There is a difference between criticism and constructive criticism. I consider myself to be a pretty rational person and you do seem to be on a GL bashing mission. Even if that is not your intent, that IS the way you are coming across. Where's the love bro?

I see this thread is turning into something that it should not be. I read these boards mainly for two reasons. 1) To gather information regarding the 1:64 diecast hobby and 2) to discuss my opinions regarding specific diecast subjects, lines, etc.

Perhaps we can agree on the following:

1. Sheldon (and anyone else) should be allowed to express his opinions freely. I actually agree with some of his points. I can and have been critical about specific subjects from Greenlight, JL, and other diecast companies. That is one of the reasons this forum exists, to discuss the great and not so great characteristics of our little cars. We are fortunate enough to have a diecast manufacturer read these forums and use our constructive criticism. Let's not allow this opportunity to go to waste.

2. Sheldon should tone down his negative comments a bit. Sheldon... although I agree with many of your points and can appreciate them, the manner in which you come across is waaaay too negative. There is a difference between criticism and constructive criticism. I consider myself to be a pretty rational person and you do seem to be on a GL bashing mission. Even if that is not your intent, that IS the way you are coming across. Where's the love bro?

Your comments are well taken.. however, the *personal* attacks were first wagered by the other poster. I have always been objective with my analysis, *specifically* targeted at a *specific* manufacturer (not just GL) for a *specific* flaw....nor has it been exclusively critically negative. In fact, unless you analyze the comments, there has been an equal amount of critically positive commentary, if nothing else as a comparative to illustrate or justify a point.

It comes down to some who are so invested emotionally with a specific vendor that no-one can say anything?

Come on, I have *NEVER* attacked any poster here, nor will I ever.

However, if there is a flaw, it will be pointed out regardless if it is GL or the HW god (Larry Wood).....

Interestingly, GL did respond in an objective manner *only* once (as opposed to suggestions that they have responded multiple times to me specifically), so obviously they were rational enough to disregard any misguided emotions and target their response to the issue at hand.

I consider both John (Stupid Squirrels) and sheldon as valuable contributors to the board. Everyone has a somewhat different opinion and a somewhat different way of expressing such opinion - that's what makes this board great. I treat each post with an open mind and try to understand where the poster is coming from. Guys - don't take it personal and don't wind yourself and the other guy up.

I consider both John (Stupid Squirrels) and sheldon as valuable contributors to the board. Everyone has a somewhat different opinion and a somewhat different way of expressing such opinion - that's what makes this board great. I treat each post with an open mind and try to understand where the poster is coming from. Guys - don't take it personal and don't wind yourself and the other guy up.

There you go, a perfect example of an objective post!!

Well taken.

:wave:Your comments are well taken.. however, the *personal* attacks were first wagered by the other poster. I have always been objective with my analysis, *specifically* targeted at a *specific* manufacturer (not just GL) for a *specific* flaw....nor has it been exclusively critically negative. In fact, unless you analyze the comments, there has been an equal amount of critically positive commentary, if nothing else as a comparative to illustrate or justify a point.

It comes down to some who are so invested emotionally with a specific vendor that no-one can say anything?

Come on, I have *NEVER* attacked any poster here, nor will I ever.
I apologize for reacting to what I percieved as a personal attack, only later did I realize that you could not have known. Sorry, My Bad:wave:

However, if there is a flaw, it will be pointed out regardless if it is GL or the HW god (Larry Wood).....

Interestingly, GL did respond in an objective manner *only* once (as opposed to suggestions that they have responded multiple times to me specifically), so obviously they were rational enough to disregard any misguided emotions and target their response to the issue at hand.

I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your opinion, just tone it down a little, you really do come off as quite negative, and it seems like you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to GreenLight.

I also understand that you couldn't have known that "You need a Happy Pill!" would be incredibly offensive to me.

Sheldon, I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

I extend my hand in a virtual handshake and call truce okay.:wave:

:wave:

I'm not saying that you're not entitled to your opinion, just tone it down a little, you really do come off as quite negative, and it seems like you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to GreenLight.

I also understand that you couldn't have known that "You need a Happy Pill!" would be incredibly offensive to me.

Sheldon, I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

I extend my hand in a virtual handshake and call truce okay.:wave:

No problem..... accepted!

As for GL, I do not have an personal issue with them. I own several of their castings, I just think that their open and friendly nature along with their subject line is the main component that explains their loyal fan base. I do not think their castings are up to par with the best adult collectibles quite yet. However, I do think what holds their castings down a bit are very minor things they can *easily* improve in order to get there....

Anyway, this is a fun hobby that we all obviously take seriously and I shall - one day - get around to posting some pix of my collection!

Would like to read about your opinion at that time.....