any one have these in stock? cant seem to find one

Yeah -- It looks like Hays has them in stock at Lefthander:

http://www.lefthander-rc.com

Yeah -- It looks like Hays has them in stock at Lefthander:

http://www.lefthander-rc.com

Darkside was showing them on their website last week but they never answered an email on availablity

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I've heard from a few of our guys who are looking that a lot of places are on backorder it appears...

Post Up if you know of a shop w/ current stock

HMMMMM...Let's see, Bob Novak "HAND WINDS" every brushless motor. There are other venues...off-road, on road and the oval community that buy these motors. He winds 21.5, 17.5, 13.5 and 10.5, not to mention the 5800, etc.. Each day has 24hours, each week has 7 days, maybe he likes to get a good nights sleep once in awhile?? Just be patient people, sometimes we can't get it when we want it..even though we are a "WE WANT IT NOW" Nation.

Just be THANKFUL that NOVAK even gives a rats patoodie about Oval...

and..these are "HANDOWOUND", I'm sure Bob has it down pat, but it is still a process..

There are times when I read that so and so is taking a wrap off..YEAH RIGHT!! We aren't talking brushed arms..these are a whole new animal...if some unscruplious racer wants to go through that process of taking one or two winds off a brushless motor, I say give them a special award!!! IT AiN"T EASY!! Minds eye tells me much of these rumors are bull.... just a way of stirring the pot, or trying to make someone "believe" they lost becaue so and so unwound a motor?

What I'd really like to know has "ANYONE" ever actually unwound a brushless motor. I'd like to see the pictures before I'd believe it!!! I HAVE and it was not easy process!!!

I saw a couple on the shelf at Maximus in NH last Sun www.teammaximus.com

We do have some, most of the motors were on B/O for awhile before snowbirds but they should be available now as far as I know, we've ordered several in the last week.

http://www.lefthander-rc.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=50&products_id=1268

Bill: That "RANT OFF" was because I have been around long enough to know the next thing we will hear on this thread is that NOVAK is?????.....and bashing them will be merciless...:o

HMMMMM...Let's see, Bob Novak "HAND WINDS" every brushless motor. There are other venues...off-road, on road and the oval community that buy these motors. He winds 21.5, 17.5, 13.5 and 10.5, not to mention the 5800, etc.. Each day has 24hours, each week has 7 days, maybe he likes to get a good nights sleep once in awhile?? Just be patient people, sometimes we can't get it when we want it..even though we are a "WE WANT IT NOW" Nation.


I'm not sure BOB winds Every motor (I highly doubt it) that's why he has employees...

As far as the unwinding or re-winding - that's not an issue in this thread - guys are just looking for Available Sources - because this hot little motor has become ReALLY popular...and has quickly become hard to pick up.

I know -- I've been following when they seem to get stocked...and how fast they become "Out of Stock" again. (COOL for NOVAK)

While on the NOVAK Subject - for those looking for a 2nd B/L ESC, or just looking to get into B/L - NOVAK has the Reman'd "Original Version" GTB speed controls for just $99.00 right now on their web site

got 7 (17.5)on hand as of today

Blame ROAR, they made the 17.5 popular and legal....

First it was just oval racers, now it is all the other classes demanding 17.5 for stock racing.

You're correct, Bob doesn't actually wind our motors---his Big Project has been designing the 1/8th scale conversion kits.

As to the 17.5s: Until the ROAR BL stock ruling, most distributors only stocked the minimum that their prior sales demand indicated---which was really minimal.

Of course, the rest is history, and we have been playing catch-up ever since. As soon as the distr get stock, the 17.5s are shipped out. I just checked Tower and they say "limited quantity".

We haven't heard from ROAR yet about the official motor approval for the 3 winds that we submitted several weeks ago. There is a big ROAR- sanctioned race later this month, so I expect some official word before then.

About the price reduction for thr RMF GTBs---we had quite a few orig items remanufactured, so we reduced the price last week. Most customers returning items for exchange or replacement select one of the lipo enabled versions of the GTB, so we have a lot of the originals to recondition for Shopatron.

so i was right? :woohoo:

First it was just oval racers, now it is all the other classes demanding 17.5 for stock racing.

Trailranger...I don't know how much THEY demanded it - but I know I pushed hard and lobbied many people to "TRY IT" - and Most who did - LIKED IT...and those people talked it up to others...and as they say - it started spreading, and then it took some data and conviencing to get ROAR to even look at it. (DAWN - thank you)

HMMMMM...Let's see, Bob Novak "HAND WINDS" every brushless motor. There are other venues...off-road, on road and the oval community that buy these motors. He winds 21.5, 17.5, 13.5 and 10.5, not to mention the 5800, etc.. Each day has 24hours, each week has 7 days, maybe he likes to get a good nights sleep once in awhile?? Just be patient people, sometimes we can't get it when we want it..even though we are a "WE WANT IT NOW" Nation.

Just be THANKFUL that NOVAK even gives a rats patoodie about Oval...

and..these are "HANDOWOUND", I'm sure Bob has it down pat, but it is still a process..

There are times when I read that so and so is taking a wrap off..YEAH RIGHT!! We aren't talking brushed arms..these are a whole new animal...if some unscruplious racer wants to go through that process of taking one or two winds off a brushless motor, I say give them a special award!!! IT AiN"T EASY!! Minds eye tells me much of these rumors are bull.... just a way of stirring the pot, or trying to make someone "believe" they lost becaue so and so unwound a motor?

What I'd really like to know has "ANYONE" ever actually unwound a brushless motor. I'd like to see the pictures before I'd believe it!!! I HAVE and it was not easy process!!!
I thought your kind hibernated in the winter....We can only hope it carries on thru spring,summer & fall!

I thought your kind hibernated in the winter....We can only hope it carries on thru spring,summer & fall!


Yeah really! Now back to the Jim Beam!:freak:

Well the 17.5 started with oval racers and progressed outward into all classes. Thanks to racing organizations like the BRL and testing done by the early racers like SWTOUR the 17.5 exsist good or bad. Then when other racers like me started testing them in other classes to help even the playing field it was evident that this motor was a little more fair than running the current 13.5 motors in other classes.

Then when members of organizations like ROAR began to hear that the 17.5 would reproduce speeds similar to stockers the push began and the demand did increase from this gerneralization.

"First it was just oval racers, now it is all the other classes demanding 17.5 for stock racing."

Don't worry Novak will come through and get more motors out there before engineers at other companies even rough draft a 17.5 motor.

The onlything in the whole series of motors designed to SLOW down the speeds that bothters me is this:
Due to the core having larger stators than what is found on the armature of a brushed motor, the generated torque can be higher.
The rotors are nearly 5x better in performance than the magnets in stock brushed motors.

Knowing those two critical bits of information, why were the motors developed as they were? The rotor and core diameter could have been decreased to lessen the improvements of brought on by the brushless for stock and spec racing. The motor RPM's will pickup and that will solve alot of headaches with motors with low KV

Inststead of having a 36mm can with a 35mm core and a 12.3mm rotor. Why not have have a 36mm can with 36mm endbells and a 28mm core and a 10 or 9mm rotor. The center of the can could be milled to almost 4mm deep ribs for better cooling.

And all the dude wanted was to find a motor from somewhere who has one in stock....

Ya'll are ridiculous....:rolleyes:

it is funny how a thread can take on a life of it's own...

trailranger - my quick/simple answer as to WHY on some of your questions is "PRODUCTION COST" and "SIMPLICITY"

Use as MANY existing parts as possible - don't reinvent/design the whole motor.

The rotor - is the STANDARD Sintered Rotor -

The Can and Endbells - STANDARD

The only thing different is the WIND - which made it fairly easy to get the motor made for the testing I do believe.

I ordered one from Novak's online store. Took 8 days to get here and cost me about 90 bucks including shipping.

Ths thread has gotten some REAL off-topic posts in it. A simple question was asked and I think it would be best that it pretty much stay on topic. There are other places for the off topic posts. Thanks.

i just picked one up no problem

Thank you Hank, a little gudiance is needed once in awhile.

The individual orders for the Novak 17.5 motors received by our Shopatron store are filled by a network of Hobby Dealers across the country. So the motors must be available at hobby shops, even though they are hard to find in on-line stores.

i got one from a local store and 1 from towerhobbies