I was wondering if there would be any interest in starting a West Michigan RC Championship?! I was thinking that we could do something like that including the following tracks:
Duke's Raceplex
Battle Front Gaming
West Olive
M-40 Raceway
Grandwoods R/C

What do you guys think?

Edwin

Sounds awesome to me!

Duke

I'm there!

Where's Grand woods? Who's talking about WOOR?

Count BFG in. We are working on some improvements to the outdoor track that will make it a little more "interesting."

John

Looks like 3 Bosses have spoken.

That sounds great. Would this be electirc, nitro,or both? I would run. If you made it on weekends that didnt conflict with the FTMS electric series. I know quite a few guys are gonna be running that over the summer. But a westside series would be the cats pajamas.

Are we talking about Electric or Nitro??

Are we talking about Electric or Nitro??

I say we do both.

John

I say we do both.

John

I agree that both would be the best (especially since I only race nitro... :thumbsup:)

Grandwoods R/C is located in Lansing. I am checking with them to see if they would be interested.

We would need some volunteers to organize this. I wouldn't mind helping out, but I do want to focus on my racing this summer as well. I am going to check with the guys from Factory Tracks to see if they would be interested in the organizational part. Who would be willing to run the organizational part? For the round at M-40 we would need to borrow someone else's lap counting system, as they are currently running the AMB20 system that doesn't allow personals. It would probably good if the same system would travel with the series, so the same software and information is used for all races.... Just my thought...

We should definitely take the FTMS schedules (electric and nitro) into consideration when putting together a schedule. There are several races from West Michigan that do participate in that series as well and it would be great if they could participate in this possible series as well...

Edwin

Both! Yes, both!
Depending what the dates are I have my amb rc sys. that could be available to use for the series!

Duke

Does anyone know an AMBrc or AMBrc3 system for sale? Does anyone know a track that is looking for an AMB20 system?

Lansing:freak: Thought it was west side:dude:

I just threw Lansing out there as an option. Even though it's not West Michigan, they do offer a nice track within a decent driving distance.... We just started the discussion about the possibility of having a championship last night, so nothing is set in stone at this point and everything is open for discussion, right? I am just trying to think outside the box here and try to help promote the hobby in our area. My philosophy is the more the merrier!

Edwin

only 12 people have an opinion on this site. I find that hard to belive.:wave:

I'm in!!!!:thumbsup: It would be fun to go to different tracks. Don't have the time to help out though sorry. Work + School + Hot Wife + 3 Kids = No time for Terry except for a Saturday if I take them along.:cry:

Terry.

Maybe hang something up at BFG and see how much interest ther is in it. Thats the only one open right now right.:confused: opps forgot about the carpet guys. :wave:I loved racing 1/12 carpet.:thumbsup:

You guys should post some flyers at rogers plaza. A lot of the truck guys there on Saturday nights would do it!

You guys should post some flyers at rogers plaza. A lot of the truck guys there on Saturday nights would do it!

A lot of guys there on Sat. night don't run dirt.

Duda most of the guys running 1/12 run buggies in summer at the mars i think it would be a good idea to bring fryers down to rogers plaza. And maybe that would get those who don't run dirt thinking about it .

Speaking of MARS, has there been any talk of what they're doing this summer?

Speaking of MARS, has there been any talk of what they're doing this summer?

M-40 Raceway got approached by someone that indicated that MARS is no longer, but that they were starting a new series (also only electric). However, after trying to get more information from that individual about a meeting to discuss the details (which was scheduled for 2/17 aka tomorrow), we have not heard back at all. Not sure what's going on there at this point....

Based on the feedback so far in this thread, it looks like there is decent interest in having a West Michigan Championship that is not limited to only electric, but for pretty much any class. If someone that races at either BFR or Roger's plaza could spread the rumor this weekend and post back on here to get a feeling on the interest, that would be greatly appreciated.

One problem that comes with organizing a good series is the lack of ownership. If we are going to do a series like this, someone will have to take ownership, or it ain't going to happen....

Edwin

M-40 Raceway got approached by someone that indicated that MARS is no longer, but that they were starting a new series (also only electric). However, after trying to get more information from that individual about a meeting to discuss the details (which was scheduled for 2/17 aka tomorrow), we have not heard back at all. Not sure what's going on there at this point....

Based on the feedback so far in this thread, it looks like there is decent interest in having a West Michigan Championship that is not limited to only electric, but for pretty much any class. If someone that races at either BFR or Roger's plaza could spread the rumor this weekend and post back on here to get a feeling on the interest, that would be greatly appreciated.

One problem that comes with organizing a good series is the lack of ownership. If we are going to do a series like this, someone will have to take ownership, or it ain't going to happen....

Edwin

No need to spread the word around G.R. If the series happens, we'll be there. As long as it's organized well and isn't a last-minute thing, it won't be a problem.

As long as it is somewhat organized, I couldn't turn down a series where I could run electric and gas in the same day. Racing for those number plate looking plaques would be cool too.

if you run gas and electric I know a lot of people that would not race. Just what I've heard

if you run gas and electric I know a lot of people that would not race. Just what I've heard

And so it begins......

Would these "lot of people" race if electric was run in the morning and nitro run in the afternoon evening? It could be treated as two separate events on the same day. If you are only racing electric, you leave when you are done. If you are only racing nitro, you don't show until later. If you are racing both, you stay all day.

Or if the numbers are too big to run both on the same day you could run one on Saturday and the other on Sunday during the same weekend.

John

Unfortunately I don't think you can plan a schedule till the Mars put's there's out. M-40 has there's done, John not sure if you have the ouside dirt one yet, and Duke don't think so either. Looked like m-40 had plenty of open date's, you could just plan your schedules and change some of those to the (west Mi race series) WMRS. To know if two day's are needed you won't unless there was a pre-registration. I would expect turn out would be low being the first year, if somebody did it. You don't know until the fist day of racing how many you will have. Start early just in case. Any of the 3 tracks have outdoor lighting (Duke's proscale rc raceplex, BFG, M-40) Duke's doesn't. So far just the 3 tracks are in? Every track has house transponders right, not sure the big deal on using one of those for a day if the counter doesn't support personals. Iv'e never raced in a series (we'll I was to young in the 80's to remember anything other than winning a big trophy) to know how much to register, what do you win and so fourth. Maybe if this did go through, use the same date's next year and advertise early.

We do not have lighting as of yet at BFG.

We do have house transponders.

Our summer schedule is the same as our winter schedule:

Wednesday off-road: 6:30 2 heats and the mains (electric and 1/10 stadium nitro)
Saturday off-road: 11:00 3 heats and the mains (electric and all nitro including 1/8)
Saturday oval: 5:00 3 heats and the mains (indoors, electric only)
Sunday off-road: 1:30 3 heats and the mains (electric and 1/10 stadium nitro)

This is a weekly schedule regardless of what is going on around us or other series dates.

John

Just got word that the new MARS series will discuss their schedule on 03/02 (tentative)...

M-40 does not have lighting at this point and I don't think that will come this year, maybe next year. M-40 does have house transponders.

The series could have online pre-registration. There are different sites/organizations out there that already offer that, so the series could just tie into that.


I don't completely understand the statement that if you run both nitro and electric, you wouldn't race the series that supports both.... Wouldn't that be perfect, as you can run both classes on the same day? Or are you more concerned about the track getting torn up? All 3 tracks currently involved are already or are working on changing the track surface to clay, to tearing up the track should not be a big problem....

Its off road, If nitro and electric are run on the same day and there is decent enough track maintenance to keep the surface raceable it should be all good. Both on the same day would'nt stop me.

Yeah it would be nice if the artist formerly known as mars would get things going for a schedule so we can figure out WHAT we wanna run this year.and hopefully they are considering Terry marriotts place as a race location for the series.He has a pretty big set-up for mod guys that like to fly!!

Where's Terry's place?

in concord MI just a couple miles off I-94

i got a call yesterday and they are having a meeting this sunday or next.

Next sunday March 2. I hope Stateline gets a race..... One of the best tracks around.

What is the issue with running Electric and Nitro at the same event, I must be missing something.

What is the issue with running Electric and Nitro at the same event, I must be missing something.

Some elec. guys would prefer to run seperately because of the condition of the track after running 1/8 buggy. Naturally, as the day goes along, the track deteriorates. With 1/8 running as well, the track may become undrivable for classes like 2wd buggy. In this case, the winner of a main can come down to more luck than skill. I kept my XX for this particular reason. I'm not terribly worried about track condition. But it would be nice to have seperate days for elec. and nitro. Practice would also have to be controlled. The 1/8 guys can run as much as they like. The elec. fellas only have that 5-8 min. period every half hour or so. Could get ugly with, say, seven 1/8's on the track and 3 guys trying to get a clean practice w/ their 2wd without getting run over buy the bigger, heavier vehicles. Nothing against nitro.....just some thoughts off the top of my head.

Get more batteries if you want to run more like nitro. Bigger crowd's such as electric and nitro together can help to get cross overs. I bought my 1st 1:10 flashlight this season since the days of my Gold tub and Carbon Chassis RC10. Otherwise I'm all nitro.

I still have my gold tub. Someday I'll put a brusless in it just to play around. :) Flashlight....thats good.

Get more batteries if you want to run more like nitro. Bigger crowd's such as electric and nitro together can help to get cross overs. I bought my 1st 1:10 flashlight this season since the days of my Gold tub and Carbon Chassis RC10. Otherwise I'm all nitro.

Electric motors and speedos can only run so long before over heating. Sounds like some hostility towards electric. Oh well....not that I didn't expect it at some point.

Next sunday March 2. I hope Stateline gets a race..... One of the best tracks around.

im thinkin we might since i will be at the meeting! and THANKS!!

No it's not hostility, it just seems that electrics are more worried about the track changing and parts breaking, rather than adapting to the track conditions and being the better driver under all driving conditions.

If my B44 can't handle the tracks, than I sell it and run pure 1:8 scale.

Electric guys don't like getting stuck marshaling nitro, nitro mains usually alot longer than electric.

No it's not hostility, it just seems that electrics are more worried about the track changing and parts breaking, rather than adapting to the track conditions and being the better driver under all driving conditions.

If my B44 can't handle the tracks, than I sell it and run pure 1:8 scale.

The B44 won't handle the conditions. I guarantee it. Again, the sole reason the XX will be with me, as well. When adapting to the conditions means switching vehicles, that's a little extreme. Being a better driver in blown out conditions has less impact than pure luck. Which is fine with me. Others may not be OK with it. The parts breaking issue comes more from having to share the track during practice w/ 1/8. Once again, I'm OK with it. Obviously there are those who feel otherwise. I'm just trying to explain where some of these cats are coming from. As far as marshalling duties, I guess that's the price you pay for making the A. No problem here.

xx with a hydra??

Easy to implament at 10 or 15 min practice times. need to charge Batts anyway. At least 3 of the tracks will be clay, how bad do they get. Ive seen Sateline's after a full day of racing and it didn't look bad.

It wouldn't be too hard to implement a time slot practice to split up electric and nitro during practice.... Since we would be starting from scratch for this series, we can determine what would be best for running a combined series....

xx with a hydra??

XX4.............with a clicker.;)

At least 3 of the tracks will be clay, how bad do they get. Ive seen Sateline's after a full day of racing and it didn't look bad.

I've seen tracks become nearly undrivable in a matter of hours. Granted, this may not be true for the tracks in question, but it can happen. Never been to Stateline, but they do have a great reputation around here.