OK guys, let's hear it for classes on the new carpet. 1/12th scale sure would be fun! Anybody still own a legends car?

what about mini's,i am trying to get my wife interested and bought her some mini's.....but i can get a novice car ready for her...

marshall

She could run the mini's in the novice break out class

Rug Ratz is a hole lot easer to spell. Wade we need to figure out how the grill is going to work in-side. lol

OK guys, let's hear it for classes on the new carpet. 1/12th scale sure would be fun! Anybody still own a legends car?

I have 2 legends cars but they haven't been run in a while.

OK guys, let's hear it for classes on the new carpet. 1/12th scale sure would be fun! Anybody still own a legends car?

I am ready for some racing! 21.5 lipo sounds really good to me, also would love to run the nitro's if we can find a place.

NOOOOOOOOT!Rug Ratz is a hole lot easer to spell. Wade we need to figure out how the grill is going to work in-side. lol

There is a nice area just outside the big door for brats preparation.

C'mon local guys, I really value your input so speak up.

10.5 or 13.5, 19t or stock! who cares... Lets race!

We are in the process of cleaning out the building now. When we finish with that we have a place in the floor that must be fixed before we can put the carpet down.

The Daytona Flyer Is Up http://www.snowbirdnationals.com/snow2008/2008Speedway.jpg

Just got back last night. Man its good to be home. Cliff I wont be going to work for a while so if you need any help just let me know when you are going to be working on the track and I will be there. Cant wait to go racing. Just have a couple of questions. 1. What tire compounds do you think will work good on this track? 2. What will the run line distance be? 3. what is the projected "opening day"? 4. What were they running at the birds as far as tires go? I know we will need to get some laps in and kinda dial everything in, and get adjusted to racing on the rug, Im just looking for a good starting point. Anyway if you still want to get everyone together for dinner and talk about what we want to do I am available whenever, just let me konw.

Glad to see you home Robby. I will let Cliff answer your ?'s

I would say pinks and purples like @ Pooler for starters. A lot depends on what class you run. The novice and break out classes will run spec tires only to keep costs down. I know you will be looking for a 30-35 shore on the rear and 35-40 on the left front and depending on traction 35-45 on the right front. There are several compounds that land in those perameters both in exotic and long wear compounds. Jack the gripper will be the only tire sauce allowed @ the track. If you have other compounds leave them @ home please. There are a lot of factors affecting our opening date but I would say 30 days would be the max unless we have trouble getting the rug.

BSR Tire Compounds here http://www.bsr-racing.com/foam/10thscale.html

will the track rent out transponders or do we need to provide our own...

marshall

TM Compounds are here http://www.tm-rc-racingcomponents.com/nascar%20FrameSet2.htm

we will have rentalswill the track rent out transponders or do we need to provide our own...

marshall

RC4LESS.com tires here http://rc4less.com/1/10_RC4LESS_Pan_Car_Foam_Tires/c33/index.html

what batteries can we run in breakout......

anything you wantwhat batteries can we run in breakout......

Are you still planning on getting everyone together to talk about classes and rules?

so,tires are the only limits on breakout.....i can use whatever batteries and stock moters....is this correct..

btw.....where can i purchase spec tires online,i dont have a hobby store near my house

thanks marshall

Jaco tires here http://www.jacoracing.net/

When you said spec tires for breakout, you mean the spec tires with the stripe (any mfg) or are you/we going to pick a certain tire/compound for everyone to run?

Murdock tires here http://www.windtunnelracingproducts.com/index.php?cPath=42_21

so,tires are the only limits on breakout.....i can use whatever batteries and stock moters....is this correct..

btw.....where can i purchase spec tires online,i dont have a hobby store near my house

thanks marshall

Check out the link for Discount RC Tires under the HobbyTalk sponsors. I haven't ordered anything from them but their prices look good.

Spec tires will be BSR with the stripe only.When you said spec tires for breakout, you mean the spec tires with the stripe (any mfg) or are you/we going to pick a certain tire/compound for everyone to run?

Spec tires will be BSR with the stripe only.

That sounds good. Are you still planning on setting up a hobby shop and selling tires? Man I am full of questions today! Well full of something anyway....

YES, don't know where yet, maybe the track siteAre you still planning on getting everyone together to talk about classes and rules?

you can use any motor or battery, the tires are available @ lefthander r/c, top right of this page or you can purchase them from me.so,tires are the only limits on breakout.....i can use whatever batteries and stock moters....is this correct..

btw.....where can i purchase spec tires online,i dont have a hobby store near my house

thanks marshall

We will have a hobby shop, small @ first and we will go from there. I kinda still have a bad taste from the last time I opened an actual retail store, lol.That sounds good. Are you still planning on setting up a hobby shop and selling tires? Man I am full of questions today! Well full of something anyway....

i will purchase the tires from you......its always good to support the home track......lol

marshall

This is very true:thumbsup:i will purchase the tires from you......its always good to support the home track......lol

marshall

This link will give you a reference point to setups being used on carpet.

http://www.customworksrc.com/aa_support/models/0800/tech_tips.php

The track will be 36X60 with approximately a 105' runline and 12+ feet of racing lane. These are pictures of the CRC track of the same dimensions.

Here is an idea of lap times ect.http://www.teamcrc.com/crcraceway/pages/carpetovalrecords.pdf Track record in 13.5 brushless is a 3.1 second lap average!

Cliff,

I'm glad to read that everything is working out for you guys. You have good support group over that way!

We will have a hobby shop, small @ first and we will go from there. I kinda still have a bad taste from the last time I opened an actual retail store, lol.

I understand. The main thing will be the tires. You stock em and I'll buy my share!

You are right, bodies should last much longer as will other parts because of much slower impact speeds. I am not sure about front end components but there should be much less dirt and grit to wear the parts.

The 21.5 and 2 break out classes should not even require a wing. From the information I am gathering the novice class will be a 5 second break out and the next class up will be a 4 second break out. This is not set in stone, I am just thinking out loud.

Thank's I know. We have a great group of racers here!Cliff,

I'm glad to read that everything is working out for you guys. You have good support group over that way!

REF SETUP

Jimmy Flack's Short Carpet Setup

Jimmy Flack's 4 cell Stock, Flat Carpet-Medium bite-Setup for the '05 Maverick:

TIRES: R/C 4LESS RF-HARD BLACK, RR-BLACK, LR- GRAY(TRIMMED 1/8IN ON OUT SIDE), LF-BLACK.
CASTER: HYPERDRIVE CASTER BLOCKS- .080 IN REA, .030 FRONT- BOTH SIDES….LEFT- 2ND HOLE FROM TOP, RIGHT- 4TH HOLE FROM TOP…
FRONT SPRINGS: RED PROGRESSIVE BOTH SIDES.
SIDE SHOCK: IRS 1/12TH DAMPENING TUBES, PURPLE NON-PROGRESSIVE SPRINGS, BOTH SIDES. 3000 Mugen DIFF LUBE, BOTH SIDES.
SIDE SHOCK LOCATION: CENTER HOLES
CENTER SHOCK: TC3 SHOCK, ASSOCIATED TC3 GREEN SPRING, 50 WT OIL.
CENTER SHOCK LOCATION: 1 HOLE BACK FROM FRONT, 3RD HOLE DOWN.
T-PLATE: FINISHLINE FIRM STEEL
T-PLATE LOCATION: OFF-SET T-PLATE ONLY
POD LENGTH: SHORTEST POSSIBLE
FRONTEND LENGTH: SET TO 10 INCH WHEEL BASE, BOTH SIDES.
BODY: BANDIT TAURUS
REAR WHEEL WIDTH: 7 7/8 INCH
REAR STEER: 0 OR AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN GET IT.
BATTERY PLACEMENT: FRONT HOLE ON CHASSIS, 3RD HOLE FROM BACK, 4 FRONT BATTERY SLOTS…SPEED CONTROL ON REAR OF BATTERY TRAY, RECIEVER ON FRONT OF TRAY….
WING: NONE
TRACK: LITTLE TALLADEGA CARPET TRACK, 138FT RUNNING LINE, HENDERSON, TN

Notes: I don't think the dampening tubes are better as far as function goes. Where they are better is they stay the same run after run. I hate the small side shocks! If I don't run the dampening tubes, I run a TC3 shocks setup as side shocks. I don't like the small side shock and never run them! JF

SETUP INFO


Dick Jarvis's Short Track Carpet
06-07-05


Dick Jarvis's setup used on his '05 Maverick HE at Maximus Speedway carpet track.

Hi Jake
Well I got back from Maximus Speedway in Maine after a very long day on the road, but had a great time. The car was awesome!!! I don't normally run on that big of a track but it was fun. They didn't have a big crowd but there were about 6 of their top racers there and the Maverick held it's own. I ended up qualifying 2nd. Had a chance for the pole but I wasn't patient enough. I ended up 3rd in the A after 3 wrecks which wasn't bad considering how rough it was.

The car was really good in the turns, it seemed to come out as fast as it went in. It was very consistent all day. There were some racers asking me what kind of car and how I liked it, so I told them where the could get one just like it. Here is the setup i ran which was very good but i have thought about some changer i will do before i go to the next race.

Front tires: LF BSR green with 1/2 paragon and 1/2 TQ mod , RF BSR silver/gray std TQ mod
Rear tires: LR BSR green with paragon, RR BSR gray/white with paragon
Front springs: LF wolf green pro, RF wolf green std
The only lube i put on the kingpins and on the other pivot points of the front end is slick50. Made it super smooth!!!
Caster: LF 0 RF 2 degree
Camber: LF +1 RF -1.75 degree
Upper A arms: LF 2nd hole down from top RF 3rd hole down ( hyperdrive 5 hole caster blocks)
Center shock: HPI 30 wt oil with #4 piston and associated silver spring
mounted in 3rd hole from top using the 2nd hole from front of chassis with approx 1/8" droop
Side shocks: CRC shocks with 30 wt oil LR spring Asc blue, RR Asc gold
both rear shocks are mounted in the center inside holes
Finishline med spring steel T plate with 1/2 degree rear steer
T plate is offset and the pod is straight up
Rear track width 202 mm with LR 3 mm out farther than LF tire
Battery tray 2nd to last hole all the way back with 1.5mm shims under the battery tray brace
Rear axle was mounted in center set of holes
Front end 1/8" back from the front of the slot
1.2mm chassis stager and 1mm chassis rake
Mcallister Charger body mounted at 4.25" to top of roof

This set up is for a flat carpet track with 141 ft runline

Hope this info will be of use to someone.

Later
Dick J

Check this out

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=100333

That's good info!

After reading this rules packadge this will be the rules we follow for the most part. The 13.5 class will be the only one that totally applies but other than that everything else fits ie: bodies, weights ect. The only exception to the 13.5 rules is we will run a wing if we want and the back of the body will be allowed to be cut out. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=196335

horray!

Do we look like we are having fun or what?