I was watching my Lost in space DVD episode from season 1, the "lost civilization" and noticed that when the little princess took will & the robot to show them her army, they decended down the seaviews spiral staircase and onto the seaview set, with a couple of added props. there was also a floor hatch that is for the flying sub, along with submarine doorways from voyage. never noticed that before.

Did you also notice that in The Sky Pirate, the interior of Captain Tucker's ship was actually the Flying Sub set?

No, Now i am going to look for that one.

You mean to say Irwin Allen recycled his sets?! Say it ain't so! ;)

Hmmmm............ This suggests they might have done that with the monsters too.


There may BE a pattern.

It was Billy Mumy said once while I was watching Voyage some years back on the Sci Fi channel.They used a monster and repainted and reused it on Lost in Space or vs versua.It was a while ago.I don't remember clearly.The case is it was done to save bucks on production costs.

This is all very fascinating.

QUOTE from another thread: "If you're not interested, don't read. That's what I do."



Come to think of it, it IS kinda facinating considering that it ties in to Sci-Fi modelling, what with the Seaview control room about to be available for us to build, and the fairly accurate LM Flying Sub interior.
While it's true that Irwin Allen recycled sets and costumes between his shows, none of them could be considered "dull".

You mean to say Irwin Allen recycled his sets?! Say it ain't so! ;)
While his taste in stories might be in question, his abilities at cost-cutting was never in doubt, methinks. :)

When Mark Goddard,Mjr West,was at WF one year he told of standing in a breezeway that connected LIS with Voyage and would see some of the monsters going from one set to the other.

It wasn't just Irwin Allen that did this. Every studio did, and still does reuse sets, set elements, costumes, props, sound effects, ect., sometimes even scripts. I remember one episode of "The Bionic Woman" that was a "Six Million Dollar Man" script where all they did was change the names. This was standard practice for the tv westerns in the 50s.

Watch "Our Man Flint", and you will see every piece of sf hardware, and set elements that 20th Century Fox had. The C.M.D.F. set became Z.O.W.I.E. set, the Seaview set, deck, and dock were used by Galaxy. The hex panels from "Fantastic Voyage" that were used for the Flying Sub floor became wall decorations. The Seaview's nuclear reactor became the Electro-Defragmentizer. Fox used everything they had.

Lets not forget the sets, props, and sound effects crossover between "Battlestar Galactica", and "Buck Rogers". It happens with regular programs too, it is just more noticeable with sf programs.

David.

It wasn't just Irwin Allen that did this. Every studio did, and still does reuse sets, set elements, costumes, props, sound effects, ect., sometimes even scripts. I remember one episode of "The Bionic Woman" that was a "Six Million Dollar Man" script where all they did was change the names. This was standard practice for the tv westerns in the 50s.

Watch "Our Man Flint", and you will see every piece of sf hardware, and set elements that 20th Century Fox had. The C.M.D.F. set became Z.O.W.I.E. set, the Seaview set, deck, and dock were used by Galaxy. The hex panels from "Fantastic Voyage" that were used for the Flying Sub floor became wall decorations. The Seaview's nuclear reactor became the Electro-Defragmentizer. Fox used everything they had.

Lets not forget the sets, props, and sound effects crossover between "Battlestar Galactica", and "Buck Rogers". It happens with regular programs too, it is just more noticeable with sf programs.

David.

Even the original Star Trek.

The Brady bunch started in 1969 the year Star Trek ended.In the Brady Bunch pilot next time look when Mr Brady and his boys are having breakfast. The chairs their sitting on were the chairs used on the Enterprise sets.they removed the custom black backings and reused them for their kitchen table set.Star Trek and The Brady Bunch were both made by Paramount.Also in Star Trek 11 in enginering.some of those round moniters added for the 2nd movie I believe were reused Buck Rogers set pieces.Guy S

So, who here has The Brady Bunch pilot in their personal collection?

Its on you tube.You can download it if you want.

Its on you tube.You can download it if you want.

s'okay.

The Brady bunch started in 1969 the year Star Trek ended.In the Brady Bunch pilot next time look when Mr Brady and his boys are having breakfast. The chairs their sitting on were the chairs used on the Enterprise sets.they removed the custom black backings and reused them for their kitchen table set.Star Trek and The Brady Bunch were both made by Paramount.Also in Star Trek 11 in enginering.some of those round moniters added for the 2nd movie I believe were reused Buck Rogers set pieces.Guy S

Those were Burke chairs, and were pretty common in the 60s, which is why ST added the back pieces to them. Burke also made them with armrests, which I believe ST also used, with the added backrest of course. Those Burke chairs go for a pretty penny now.

David.

if you ever go into the haunted mansion at disneyland calif. the ghosts dancing around the dinner table banquet room are dancing to organ music with a ghost playing that organ. It is the very same organ played by capt. nemo in the movie.

You mean to say Irwin Allen recycled his sets?! Say it ain't so! ;)
That surprises you? Say it ain't so.

Let's not forget that LIS used the Fantstic Voyage brain set as the interior of "The Derelict" in episode 2...:eek:

It was definitely more than just Irwin reusing set pieces, it was the studio 20th Century Fox. Most of the Seaview control room set is seen in the Batman (TV Series) movie.

Another Irwin use were props for City Beneath the Sea, including the Jupiter II gutted and used as a building for the miniature underwater city and the Flying Sub as a VIP transport.

It's almost impossible to watch an episode of Lost In Space or Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, and not recognise a prop, costume, set, or monster that appeared on both shows. It was very common practice in those days.

I seem to have more than a few Paramount TV series on DVD, and a lot of the things I'm seeing look very familiar. Maxwell Smart's apartment, and even the CONTROL phone booth appeared in episodes of Mission Impossible, and James West and Artemus Gordon often wander through the sets from Gunsmoke.

How about this for recycling. Here are four pics from four second season episodes of The Wild Wild West. The first few buildings are real, but beyond that, the buildings are a painted backdrop. The first building in the backdrop has a distinctive triangular profile on the front of the roof, which I've marked with an arrow. Check out the ingenious ways the set is redressed to make it look like a different location.

http://gmemail.customer.netspace.net.au/www1.jpg

http://gmemail.customer.netspace.net.au/www2.jpg

http://gmemail.customer.netspace.net.au/www3.jpg

http://gmemail.customer.netspace.net.au/www4.jpg

At one point in "City on the Edge of Forever," didn't Kirk and Edith walk past Floyd's barber shop from THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW?

Yep. "Mayberry" was part of the backlot at Desilu Culver. It was originally the city of Atlanta from Gone With the Wind, and was later used to represent a number of TV and movie towns (Metropolis in the Superman TV series, a 20th Century-era town in many episodes of Star Trek, to name but a few) until it was destroyed (along with the rest of the backlot) in the 1970's after being used in the movie Earthquake. It is now a business park. I will drive through every so often, but the memories of how it once was makes it difficult.

At one point in "City on the Edge of Forever," didn't Kirk and Edith walk past Floyd's barber shop from THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW?

Can anyone get a screen grab of that?

A few years back, I was watching a rerun of the LIS episode with the space bikers. At one point the walls of the set looked familiar, then I realized what they were. The set walls were made from the miniature set of the "Time Tunnel" city. They reused everything!

David.

A few years back, I was watching a rerun of the LIS episode with the space bikers. At one point the walls of the set looked familiar, then I realized what they were. The set walls were made from the miniature set of the "Time Tunnel" city. They reused everything!

David.

Speaking of Time Tunnel - the episode that ran last night on The American Life Network used footage of the Krell City from Forbidden Planet to represent the interior of the Time Tunnel complex. They also recycled Robert Duvall. In the last three weeks I've seen Duvall as a pointy-eared alien named Zar on VTTBOTS and again last night as a chrome-shower-cap-wearing saboteur in the above referenced Time Tunnel episode. Somehow, he pulled off both roles with a certain dignity.

Can anyone get a screen grab of that?
Here you go:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/bebruns/STMayberry000.jpg

I'll have to have a look for Floyd's Barber Shop - that is really cool.

I have been watching Season One of Mission: Impossible lately and am amazed at how many Actors and Actresses from Star Trek appear in M:I. Heck, even some of the production staff are the same.

It looks as if M:I used parts of the Desilu studio as backdrops for various scenes. I know there is an episode coming up where it takes place in some Eastern European movie studio; I'll have to have a look for anything interesting.

Of course, the ultimate cross-over from the Desilu/Paramount lot had to have been Leonard Nimoy joining M:I after Star trek folded.

which season episode is robert duvall in ?

which season episode is robert duvall in ?

VTTBOS - Episode 20: "The Invaders"
The Time Tunnel - Episode 24: "Chase Through Time"

VTTBOS - Episode 20: "The Invaders"
The Time Tunnel - Episode 24: "Chase Through Time"
EPISODE 20 ? i have the third season only so it must be season 1 or 2. thanks.

In the X-Files episode "Jump The Shark" which was by and large an episode of "The Lone Gunmen" in disguise, slimy Majestic 12 agent and master of disinformation Morris fletcher (Michael McKean) survives an attempt on his life.

Fearing his days are numbered, he contacts F.B.I. agents Doggett and Reyes and asks for protection. As an act of good faith he offers them the blueprints to the captured Roswell spaceship ... currently located at Area 51.

http://gmemail.customer.netspace.net.au/lonegunmen.jpg

Unfortunately for Fletcher, Reyes doesn't fall for the ploy, and informs him that it's a drawing of the Jupiter II. :)

Glenn :)

Here you go:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/bebruns/STMayberry000.jpg
Cool! Thanks, never noticed before.

EPISODE 20 ? i have the third season only so it must be season 1 or 2. thanks.

It is a first season one, Robert Duvall's weapon is a 'automatic' from "Just Imagine".

David.

It is a first season one, Robert Duvall's weapon is a 'automatic' from "Just Imagine".

David.
thanks !

The cockpit seats in the Icarus from Planet of the Apes are the same seats from the Spindrift in Land of the Giants. Also, Kirk's captain's chair (the leather and arms part) can be seen as furniture decorating Brigg's apratment in the first season of Mission: Impossible.

And speaking of planet of the Apes, on the special edition (classic version) there is a 16 mm home movie of Roddy McDowell's where he gets in a helicopter and flies off the 20th century lot and heads for the coast to film a scene. Upon his departure, in the studio backlot below, you can see both fullsize Icarus from the Apes movies as well as the full size Jupiter 2 from Lost in Space in the parking lot. Looked for a chariot but couldn't find it.

The cockpit seats in the Icarus from Planet of the Apes are the same seats from the Spindrift in Land of the Giants. Also, Kirk's captain's chair (the leather and arms part) can be seen as furniture decorating Brigg's apratment in the first season of Mission: Impossible.

And speaking of planet of the Apes, on the special edition (classic version) there is a 16 mm home movie of Roddy McDowell's where he gets in a helicopter and flies off the 20th century lot and heads for the coast to film a scene. Upon his departure, in the studio backlot below, you can see both fullsize Icarus from the Apes movies as well as the full size Jupiter 2 from Lost in Space in the parking lot. Looked for a chariot but couldn't find it.
Got any screengrabs of that scene ?

Also, Kirk's captain's chair (the leather and arms part) can be seen as furniture decorating Brigg's apratment in the first season of Mission: Impossible.


That is because Kirk's command chair was made from a commercial chair with the box added around it. they don't appear to be that common, as the people who are duplicating Kirk's chair are always looking for them. I don't remember the name, but I will look around to see if I can find it.

David.

It was a Madison chair. They were very common in offices and waiting rooms in the sixties and seventies.

IIRC, Trek (at least twice that I can think of) and a heap of other shows used a "natural" set (in Arizona maybe?) - you know the one I mean, where Kirk and the Gorn captain face off for the Melkot...
You'll have to forgive my geographical ignorance, it's not my country ;)

That was Vasquez Rocks. Just off of Highway 14 outside LA.

That was Vasquez Rocks. Just off of Highway 14 outside LA.
Not Arizona then :) Vasquez Rocks does ring a bell now that you mention it.
Thanks Trek Ace :thumbsup:

Got any screengrabs of that scene ?

..not sure which scene you're wanting to see. I can't do screen grabs but here are the Spindrift chairs.

http://www.cloudster.com/sets&vehicles/Spindrift/spindrift08.jpg

..and the Icarus chairs.

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/ApesShip/Stills/Interiors/Apes83.jpg

here is a blog with a pic of the Icarus that was in that home movie shot by Roddy McDowell.

http://www.sfwriter.com/2006/12/bottom-of-taylors-starship-revealed.html

...sorry, couldn't round up anything showing the full size jupiter, but it's there in the parking lot on that same video. I thought that vid would be on youtube but no such luck.

Thanks for the picture !

In the IMDb trivia of Planet of the Apes it says the destroyed Statue of Liberty was in the LIS Junkyard of Space.

The availability of the Moebius kits should allow us to build the interiors of the Lost Civilization ship and Captain Tucker's ships, except one flaw of LIS is they seldom let you see the exteriors of alien ships. Often all you would see is the ass end of a ship that was departing viewed from the ground when it was already high in the atmosphere, it always looked like it had a rotating core set up like the J2 and the Pod, and possibly rockets as well. One example was the Female bondage authority ship,* whose female captain made slaves of men. In her case though you did get to see the exterior, which was a round open platform which dematerialized via a jump cut and sound affect, and then for some reason became visible again at high altitude operating its rotating light propulsion system as it receded into space. I guess this rotating drive was on the reverse side of the screen observed platform. I think this ship was used by a couple other guest aliens. This is probably the best candidate for modeling a LIS guest alien ship since we pretty much have screen evidence for both sides of it. (I'm not counting the derelict here, which actually is a pretty nice ship) Other than that there's not much more than the 5th dimension ship which Lunar did in resin, and Happgood's space capsule which possibly could be kitbashed from Mercury or Gemini kits? Don't get me started on the space bikes! Someday it might be nice if some of the ships that appear only off screen in LIS presumably for budget/apathy production reasons, could be depicted in the way that the missing ships from ST TOS are now being shown in the remastered ST TOS, it would be even better if they were realized as practical models in the style of the originals and not CGI, but then I live in a fantasy utopia neverland.

* It's shocking how much weird quasi sexuality there was in the show sometimes, to be honest and I think that was the real reason some people opposed it.

Have to admire the toughness of anyone who could travel in deep space on an open platform ship with nothing against the cold but a skin tight leather catsuit.

They used the Seaview in a second season episode of Wonder Woman, It was supposed to be the underwater base of the bad guys. I almost fell off my chair when I saw it.

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This has nothing to do with Irwin Allen. However the cost-cutting mentioned in this thread reminded me of something funny. I was watching an episode of Wonder Woman last year, and I started laughing out loud when a super-advanced computer was shown talking. The lights that turned on and off with each syllable the computer uttered was actually a Lite Brite toy. If only my brother and others had used their Lite Brites for good, we may have solved world hunger by now.