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Guy Schlicter
01-25-2008, 01:32 AM
Hi Folks Frank at Moebius models hasn't been posting many threads recently unless I missed a few.It leads me to believe Frank must be pounding away to make sure that Seaview kit hits the shelves by the end of February.More power to him.When I had posted a thread not too long ago.People said that Moebius is planning a new larger Flying Sub kit.Is this just a rumor or is it really gonna happen,Thanks Guy S.

John P
01-25-2008, 08:45 AM
Valium, Guy. Valium.

beck
01-25-2008, 11:28 AM
i haven't heard anything on a Flying Sub but Frank's got some real gems in the pipeline for sure such as the LIS Chariot , The Invisible Man , Big Frankie and ( i think ? ) a Conan .
so it's not just the Seaview that's keeping him busy .
hb

crazy mike
01-25-2008, 12:59 PM
If Frank can get the FS up to 39" I'll be the first to volunteer to convert it for slope soaring:eek:

spocks beard
01-25-2008, 01:42 PM
For as busy as frank is i think he posts quite a bit.I wouldn't worry to much,& i agree hopefully in the future we'll be reading that moebius will be issuing a flying sub kit.But right now i'm getting really anxious to get this seaview kit,it looks to be a really cool kit :thumbsup:

Moebius
01-25-2008, 07:06 PM
I have been a bit busy lately. The FS is something we haven't yet announced, but we should be doing that soon. Working out final details still. So many things to consider on it!

beatlepaul
01-25-2008, 07:25 PM
I have been a bit busy lately. The FS is something we haven't yet announced, but we should be doing that soon. Working out final details still. So many things to consider on it!

EXCITING NEWS!!!!!!!!

spocks beard
01-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Flying sub? This is EXTREMELY GOOD NEWS :woohoo:

Argonaut
01-25-2008, 11:33 PM
FLYING SUB?!!! yES yES yES!!!!!!

Steve244
01-25-2008, 11:53 PM
whimper...

John P
01-26-2008, 10:04 AM
1/48 scale please? That aughtta be juuust the right size for my shelf.

xsavoie
01-26-2008, 08:40 PM
I think that Frank checks up on this board often enough.I'm sure he's quite busy,that's all.

woof359
01-27-2008, 03:02 AM
landing gear?

abacero
01-27-2008, 03:22 AM
For the FS, could be wonderful to have a landing gear!!! And I want to know (and I think everybody at the forum) What's coming next for 2008?? :confused:

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always posibilities".- Spock

Trek Ace
01-27-2008, 10:06 AM
The toy show in NY is only a few weeks away. I am sure that Frank will have some exciting kit announcements at that time. Not much longer to wait.

John P
01-27-2008, 10:27 AM
I can pass on landing gear for the FS. Have y'all ever seen it? It's ridiculous.

Seaview
01-27-2008, 11:53 AM
I can pass on landing gear for the FS. Have y'all ever seen it? It's ridiculous.


Agreed, I've always thought that they look like 2 chocolate donuts with pizza cutters in their centers. :p

beck
01-27-2008, 02:31 PM
pizza AND chocolate donuts !! what could be better than that !?
hb

woof359
01-27-2008, 04:05 PM
yeah I know, it did look silly but maybe some upated gear? say a touch of stealth?

John P
01-27-2008, 04:08 PM
Stealth landing gear? What the heck is that?

Zorro
01-27-2008, 04:24 PM
Stealth landing gear? What the heck is that?

Like them cartoon tires in that old Amazing Stories episode.

abacero
01-28-2008, 12:30 AM
:confused: In some places they show the Flying sub with a landing gear under the "wings" with two huge weels with suspension like the moon rover, even some ad-ons to the MS Flight Simulator show it.

In fact, as I can recall the series, the FS never was showed landing or taking off from places like airports or any landing strip

I am sooooo confused!!!!! :confused:

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

John P
01-28-2008, 08:47 AM
Nelson landed the FS on a carrier once, but we only saw it as stock footage from the pilot's point of view inside the sub.

Admiral Nelson
01-28-2008, 01:28 PM
Yea, and it was black and white film at that. Reminds me of the diving footage that the 1st season used from the periscope vantage point. Showed the view of a WWII submarine with snorkle and wire antenna. Even as a kid I knew this was screwed up.

abacero
01-28-2008, 01:51 PM
So, where, in Rin-Tin-Tin sake, came the legend about the FS undercarriage? This kind of things dislead from the "real facts", specially coming from a 1960's TV show... :freak:


Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

fluke
01-28-2008, 02:28 PM
If landing gear were to be considered I would hope that something comparable to U.S. Navy fighters of the time were to be used....that would make the most sense for carrier and land based landings.

I could do without the claws and would love to see a detailed and accurate interior, engine room, optional postion rear entrance door and MOSTLY accurate postionable top hatch.

1/35 scale would be just fine with me! ( I can dream )

Those Wacky WHEELS can be seen here:
except for the actual 'spokes?' its not a bad design.
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/FlyingSub/fs30.jpg

here:
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/FlyingSub/fs31.jpg

and here...the rear wheel:
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/FlyingSub/fs06.jpg

The claws:
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/FlyingSub/fs29.jpg

The control board that manipulated the claws.
http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/FlyingSub/fs25.jpg

Steve244
01-28-2008, 02:46 PM
eh. the concept of a flying submarine is pretty wacky.

it'd be fun to see if they had any test footage of a gear down FS landing. IA must've found it too wacky for a "serious" tv show.

Dave Hussey
01-28-2008, 02:57 PM
I'd prefer to think that the FS could take off and land vertically and had elegant landing feet like that neat silver jet-like ship in Star Wars Episode III.

jbond
01-28-2008, 04:16 PM
Nice idea but where are the jet exhausts on the bottom...probably the landing gear effects shot was just too difficult to do within the context of a weekly show--getting it to touch down on a miniature landing strip without showing the wires. They had it down at Gerry Anderson's facilities but you don't see shots like that in any American-made shows despite how elaborate some of the miniature effects on Voyage were.

If you watch the episode with the claws the machinery extends way up INTO the cabin along with a giant car headlight. Making that all fit along with the interior should be an interesting challenge...

John P
01-28-2008, 04:20 PM
It's like the landing gear was desgned by somebody who'd never, ever seen landing gear before.

Dave Hussey
01-28-2008, 04:21 PM
"NCIS Special Agent Gibbs walks by Agent Denozo and nonchalantly gives him a rap in the back of the head." :p

Now that I've re-set the mood to silly, its that big round doodad smack-dab in the middle of the hull, b'y! I figger it must be for something - it emanates some weird "Irwinian" field to lift the ship vertically up and down. It sure ain't no hood ornament!
Huzz;)

Seaview
01-28-2008, 04:25 PM
"It's like the landing gear was desgned by somebody who'd never, ever seen landing gear before."



But who was obviously sitting at a lunch counter staring at a round block of swiss cheese next to a plate of chocolate donuts while he had his car up on jacks at the garage next door... :lol:

spocks beard
01-28-2008, 06:51 PM
I've been collecting the voyage episodes on dvd.So far i have up to season 3 volume 2,and i watched all the episodes, but must have missed seeing the flying sub with the landing gear or the claws.Are they featured in the fourth season shows?Does any one know when the last two volumes are coming out.A new flying sub kit without the landing gear is fine with me,I'd rather have it displayed on a nice sturdy base in flight mode :thumbsup:

beatlepaul
01-28-2008, 08:20 PM
I've been collecting the voyage episodes on dvd.So far i have up to season 3 volume 2,and i watched all the episodes, but must have missed seeing the flying sub with the landing gear or the claws.Are they featured in the fourth season shows?Does any one know when the last two volumes are coming out.A new flying sub kit without the landing gear is fine with me,I'd rather have it displayed on a nice sturdy base in flight mode :thumbsup:

The landing gear was never shown on the series. They could have been done better, and they actually detract from the sleekness of the Flying Sub and Seaview's design..

The claws are used in a couple of Fourth season episodes only,
"Cave of The Dead" and "Man-Beast"

Steve244
01-28-2008, 09:54 PM
Nice idea but where are the jet exhausts on the bottom...probably the landing gear effects shot was just too difficult to do within the context of a weekly show--getting it to touch down on a miniature landing strip without showing the wires. They had it down at Gerry Anderson's facilities but you don't see shots like that in any American-made shows despite how elaborate some of the miniature effects on Voyage were.

If you watch the episode with the claws the machinery extends way up INTO the cabin along with a giant car headlight. Making that all fit along with the interior should be an interesting challenge...

Jet exhausts! It's a submarine. It has to have nuclear powered ant-grav. Probably why the floor glows. The rear jet exhausts are nuclear too but they just push it around.

Unfortunately this makes the FS bay under Seaview rather "hot".

Steve244
01-28-2008, 09:55 PM
"NCIS Special Agent Gibbs walks by Agent Denozo and nonchalantly gives him a rap in the back of the head." :p

Now that I've re-set the mood to silly, its that big round doodad smack-dab in the middle of the hull, b'y! I figger it must be for something - it emanates some weird "Irwinian" field to lift the ship vertically up and down. It sure ain't no hood ornament!
Huzz;)

There you go...

fluke
01-28-2008, 10:13 PM
Now that I think of it....its rather funny to even waste one punch on the ol' key board on the Claw or Wheel idea.

There is absolutely NO space for either!....and don't forget about that mysterious dive chamber under the floor of the FS.... what....its about 18 inches deep?

Oh well....gotta love Mr. Allen! it sure was cool when we were 6 o 8 huh?

abacero
01-29-2008, 12:30 AM
Now that I think of it....its rather funny to even waste one punch on the ol' key board on the Claw or Wheel idea.

There is absolutely NO space for either!....and don't forget about that mysterious dive chamber under the floor of the FS.... what....its about 18 inches deep?

Oh well....gotta love Mr. Allen! it sure was cool when we were 6 o 8 huh?

Absolute agree... who of us didn't want to play Nelson or Capt. Crane, but never Kowalski or Patterson, the guys that always were subduced by the aliens... :p :wave:

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

Dave Hussey
01-29-2008, 01:24 PM
Maybe the black stripes on the bottom of the hull are landing skids?

John P
01-29-2008, 01:31 PM
Nnnnnnnnno.

fluke
01-29-2008, 02:18 PM
I'm pretty sure those are part of the stabilizer / fin design like above and I thought those are navy blue as well?

Dave Hussey
01-29-2008, 02:22 PM
Its an Irwinian anomaly that may remain a mystery for all time.

Although if I were to propose a serious arrangement, it would rely on the circular disk on the bottom of the hull providing some anti-gravity or thrust properties for VTOL capability; combined with landing pads on short struts that would fold down from out of the wings and from under the pilot seat area. I could imagine that there is juuuuuuuuust enough space there for that.

Huzz

Dave Hussey
01-29-2008, 02:23 PM
Yup - they are navy blue. I even painted them that color on my still surviving and still in great shape Aurora 1975-ish re-issue FS-1.

Huzz

John P
01-29-2008, 04:09 PM
Yup - they are navy blue. I even painted them that color on my still surviving and still in great shape Aurora 1975-ish re-issue FS-1.

Huzz

Ditto.
http://www.inpayne.com/models/flyingsub.html

fluke
01-29-2008, 04:13 PM
Hey! I believe that I just got the finger! .....from a model no less!

Dave Hussey
01-29-2008, 04:20 PM
I'm used to that.

LOL!
Huzz

Dave Metzner
01-29-2008, 09:47 PM
The ring on the bottom of the Flying sub is a docking ring just like on the top of the vehicle. the FS-1 is propelled by the jets discharging from the rear and flys due to its aerodynamic ???? shape.......However the mystery is how is the FS-1 controled in flight???? There are no visible aerodynamic control surfaces there are also no reaction control jets!!! and the jets do not appear to be designed to be steered...Another mystery!
I guess that the pilot just lit the wick and hoped that the darned thingwould go where he wanted it to go!

Guy Schlicter
01-29-2008, 10:16 PM
Good one John you never cease to stop cracking me up Guy.

fluke
01-29-2008, 11:10 PM
I wouldn't think about it too much Dave....you might blow a fuse! :p

I guess the best we can hope for is:

1. Larger scale.
2. The same type of accurate interior like the one engineered for Lunar Models by the great Joel Tavera.
3. All around accurate and improved details.

Seaview
01-30-2008, 12:28 AM
Joel Tavera; now THAT's one of those names I always lift my glass or coffee mug to!