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Guy Schlicter
01-18-2008, 02:45 AM
Hi,Before I go beddy by,I have some questions about a film,I'm sure 99.9 percent of you have seen.The Poseiden Adventure,Good movie.Now the questions.First off with people I have talked to over the years about the film have said this.I asked if the Poseiden could have actually survived that massive tidal wave.In the film,the ship was hit by that wave at an angle,and had the Poseiden went head into it,the ship would have cut,thru it and not capsized.Also,the circumstances were set up for the ship to capsize.It was top heavy,because the new owners who had just bought the steamship line,wanted to rush the ship into port,as I recall.I was also told,tidal waves don't get that big,that wave,looked like it was about 200 feet tall.Our old friend Mr Irwin Allen,did a nice job,with that flick.The Poseiden was commanded by the Captain of Cruiser C57-D,Leslie Neisen,Guy S.

John P
01-18-2008, 08:41 AM
Okay. And?

PerfesserCoffee
01-18-2008, 08:46 AM
Destructive tidal waves don't happen at sea. They only happen on land. All that happens at sea is that the ship rises up some and then goes back down with the passengers and crew hardly noticing it in all probability.

Besides that goof, it's a great movie.

I'm not really complaining. Spaceships don't collide with balls of aluminum foil in meteor storms (which don't really occur in space either) but I still enjoy that scene from Lost in Space. :freak:

JGG1701
01-18-2008, 09:16 AM
Now it wouldn't be much of a movie if the ship just split in two now would it?
;) THE END. ;)

Admiral Nelson
01-18-2008, 10:40 AM
Destructive tidal waves don't happen at sea. They only happen on land. All that happens at sea is that the ship rises up some and then goes back down with the passengers and crew hardly noticing it in all probability.

Besides that goof, it's a great movie.

:freak:

I think you need to study some more. Ever heard of a rogue wave?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/science/11wave.html?ei=5090&en=d5cdc1cbc2182342&ex=1310270400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

PerfesserCoffee
01-18-2008, 12:28 PM
I think you need to study some more. Ever heard of a rogue wave?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/science/11wave.html?ei=5090&en=d5cdc1cbc2182342&ex=1310270400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

That's not a tidal wave.

scotpens
01-18-2008, 01:10 PM
That's not a tidal wave.A "tidal wave" isn't a tidal wave either, because it has nothing to do with the tides. It's correctly called a tsunami or seismic sea wave.

IIRC, the giant wave that capsized Poseidon in the original movie was supposed to be a tsunami, which is impossible. In the recent remake, it was a rogue wave.

Paul Gallico's novel, on which the movie was based, was inspired by a trip on the Queen Mary, which was used for filming the pre-capsizing sequences. The permanently berthed tourist attraction in Long Beach was made to appear convincingly afloat at sea by using rain and wind machines and clever camera angles. Ever wonder why all the scenes on deck were filmed from a low angle? Was it to suggest impending doom? No, it was to keep the City of Long Beach from showing in the background!

Admiral Nelson
01-18-2008, 03:22 PM
That's not a tidal wave.

Wrong again.

The term tidal wave can refer to:

A tidal bore, a large movement of water formed by the funneling of the incoming tide into a river or narrow bay.
A tsunami, generally caused by an earthquake or underwater rock slide, that can cause substantial destruction at shore.
A rouge wave of up to 100 feet high, often in the middle of the ocean and against prevailing current and wave direction.
The crest (physics) of a tide as it moves around the Earth.

PerfesserCoffee
01-18-2008, 03:51 PM
Wrong again.

The term tidal wave can refer to:

A tidal bore, a large movement of water formed by the funneling of the incoming tide into a river or narrow bay.
A tsunami, generally caused by an earthquake or underwater rock slide, that can cause substantial destruction at shore.
A rouge wave of up to 100 feet high, often in the middle of the ocean and against prevailing current and wave direction.
The crest (physics) of a tide as it moves around the Earth.


Not wrong, not even mistaken. As the term was understood when the movie was made, the term "tidal wave" was referring to a tsunami and only a tsunami. That is, from the list given above, what I was referring to and exclusively what was being referred to in the movie.

I should have been more careful in choosing my words so that I was more easily understood. :thumbsup:

Admiral Nelson
01-18-2008, 04:38 PM
Not wrong, not even mistaken. As the term was understood when the movie was made, the term "tidal wave" was referring to a tsunami and only a tsunami. That is, from the list given above, what I was referring to and exclusively what was being referred to in the movie.

I should have been more careful in choosing my words so that I was more easily understood. :thumbsup:

I understood you. You said a rogue wave was not a title wave. You were wrong.

PerfesserCoffee
01-18-2008, 04:59 PM
I understood you. You said a rogue wave was not a title wave. You were wrong.

You're right. It's not a "title wave."

Seriously, we'll have to agree to disagree then since, as I attempted to make clear, the original movie came out before the days of "rogue waves" and the movie was explicitely representing the phenomenon known today as a tsunami which does not exhibit its destructive effects until reaching land.

I used the term tidal wave as it was used back then to mean a tsunami. I did not mean to indicate "rogue wave" and did not since I, as the one to have originally having written the words, am fully aware of what I meant.

It is a non-sequitor to boot since rogue waves were not a recognized phenomenon back when the movie was originally made and therefore there was no way that that was what was meant.

Admiral Nelson
01-18-2008, 05:17 PM
You're right. It's not a "title wave."

It is a non-sequitor to boot since rogue waves were not a recognized phenomenon back when the movie was originally made and therefore there was no way that that was what was meant.

Rogue waves have been talked about for centuries, but until one was actually documented, they were dismissed as fantasy. You are right though that back when the movie was made rogues were not heard of.

PerfesserCoffee
01-18-2008, 05:56 PM
Rogue waves have been talked about for centuries, but until one was actually documented, they were dismissed as fantasy. You are right though that back when the movie was made rogues were not heard of.

What would have been cool is if they'd injected that "fantasy" element into the movie back then and later to have it turn out to be a real-life possibility.

It seems some other movies have done similar things in the sci-fi field.

terryr
01-19-2008, 01:11 AM
You're all wrong. It was a special effect wave. They can do ANYTHING.

Eric K
01-19-2008, 05:09 AM
You're all wrong. It was a special effect wave. They can do ANYTHING.


Yer right!! I even saw one stop and stand there for a while one time!!! It wuz biiiiiiiiig!!!!

PerfesserCoffee
01-19-2008, 03:28 PM
You're all wrong. It was a special effect wave. They can do ANYTHING.

You're right! My mistake! :D

frankenstyrene
01-19-2008, 08:30 PM
For the nautical minded:

"It seems to be piling up in those shallows."

1. How radar would reveal that I've never understood. Only if the captain knew the geophysical layout of the area he was pointing at on the scope would that observation make sense, assuming it's even possible to see that on radar.

2. The Poseidon was presumably not in or near any such "shallows" but was well out to sea, making near top speed.

How would a radar-detectable wave go from piling up in shallows - of necessity piling up in the direction *away* from the ship - to not only coming *toward* the ship but rising ever higher to some 90+ feet, well over the stacks and topmast of a high-riding liner?

Oh. Movie. Right. Sorry.