At 1/128, that's 16 11/16" - just in case anyone would like a Nautilus in consistent scale with their Seaview. 1/128 is one half of 1/64, so it is not an entirely arbitrary scale.

At twice the scale of the Seaview(1/64), the Nautilus would be 33 3/8", which is roughly in the same ballpark lengthwise as the 39" Seaview.

Just something to think about.

1/128??!!??!!??!?!?
1/64??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?..............???

Slowy I turn...

do you really want to open this can of worms........well, do ya?

Don't forget there's already a few styrene X Wings knocking about such as Fine Molds recently released 1/48 version (not to mention the toys and diecast collectables). As for the Tom Cruise Martian war machine well the tripods themselves are quite a neat design (not totally accurate to the book though) but that seems to be a deeply unpopular film. Hg Wells fans hated it and I think any model company that wanted to do the tripods from Hg Wells book would be better off designing their own (as long as it was faithful to the book and a really cool design). I think that could be a big seller!

I guess its all a matter of opinion.
I really enjoyed the latest tripods.
The 'faithful' designs leave me cold.

That's where the problem comes in, print rights or merchandising rights? There's so much more to it than you probably imagine. You'd think the same studio would own or license the films they have released, but it's not always the case. Such as 2001. Merchandise rights for this are tied to the Kubrick estate, where print rights belong to the studio. Many films are like this, and licensing is a nightmare.

Thanks for the explanation Frank.

But what is the deal with 2010?
Does it fall into the same issues?

Might be a 'back-door' to at least get a discovery out.

Uh, no, Frank. But now that you mention it, how about Ann-Margret slathering herself in baked beans in this classic scene from Tommy?

http://bp1.blogger.com/_RPCOzRg_voc/Re3R8G6yQEI/AAAAAAAAAJk/v7jGZchWuMg/s400/ann-margret.jpg

I know a guy who makes GOOD money shooting women in baked beans.
He been on HBO's 'Real Sex', 'Rippley's Believe it or Not' and a bunch of other stuff.

1/128??!!??!!??!?!?
1/64??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?..............???

Slowy I turn...

do you really want to open this can of worms........well, do ya?
Well, EXCUUUUUUUSSSE MEEEEE! I didn't make a 39", 1/128 Seaview... ;)

Personally, since Moebius is inclined toward large-scale models, I'd like to see them make two each of major subjects like the Seaview, the Nautilus, and the Jupiter 2: a large, and a small. The smaller subs could be RC'ed for use in average backyard pools, and also fit more comfortably on regular display shelves.

A Jupiter 2 in scale with their chariot and pod would measure 30" - good for a ballpark-sized diorama, or for ceiling display. For a model which includes the launch pad and towers, again, I'd prefer a smaller scale.

I guess its all a matter of opinion.
I really enjoyed the latest tripods.
The 'faithful' designs leave me cold.


Club, I'd be very interested to hear which "faithful" designs leave you cold?

I know a guy who makes GOOD money shooting women in baked beans...:lol:

(I imported this from the other thread, which is mostly about figure kit suggestions.)
I'm for rounding out the LIS license with a good 15 inch Jupiter II with a one piece upper hull that is removeable for displaying the interior. Polar Lights made a good effort but I don't think the "cap" was a good idea...
I won't weigh in on the one-piece hull issue, but I will mention that I cemented my PL upper hull sections together.
I'd like for this kit to have an opening door as well as a better interior with real seats, dash board, etc.
I like the opening upper-hull door idea, but only if, when closed, it truly matches the contours of the rest of the hull.

Also, I agree with your comment regarding the need for interior improvements.

Would love to see some Wild Wild West models. Maybe a version of the train with lab and living quarters. Some nice figures of West, Gordon and Loveless would be great...
I like the Wild Wild West idea. LOTS of neat, scifi-ish gadgets, and it brings together the Western and master spy genres in the best tongue-in-cheek '60s style.

I'm a little surprised no one has suggested the Barris Batmobile.

Gerry Anderson vehicle, decent size and with decent detail (as opposed to the Japanese toy-kits)

UFO:
Moon Base Interceptor, 1/48 scale
Sky One, 1/48
SkyDiver sub 1/72

Space: 1999
Eagle, 1/48
Hawk, 1/48

Journy to the Far Side of the Sun (Doppleganger)
Spacecraft and "Dove" lifting body, 1/72

Captain Scarlet:
Angel Interceptor, 1/48
SPV, 1/24 or 1/35

Fireball XL-5 on launch trolly, 1/144 (25")

Thunderbirds 1, 2 & 3, 1/144 scale
Thunderbird 4, 1/48 or 1/32
TB5 space station (with docking TB3), 1/288
FAB 1 limo, 1/24

Supercar, 1/24 or larger

Of course, since Mattel is making beautiful 1/18 die-cast Batmobiles, Moebius would probably want to make a larger kit. Say, 1/6 scale. That's 37 1/2 inches.

Gerry Anderson vehicle, decent size and with decent detail (as opposed to the Japanese toy-kits)

UFO:
Moon Base Interceptor, 1/48 scale
Sky One, 1/48
SkyDiver sub 1/72

Space: 1999
Eagle, 1/48
Hawk, 1/48

Journy to the Far Side of the Sun (Doppleganger)
Spacecraft and "Dove" lifting body, 1/72

Captain Scarlet:
Angel Interceptor, 1/48
SPV, 1/24 or 1/35

Fireball XL-5 on launch trolly, 1/144 (25")

Thunderbirds 1, 2 & 3, 1/144 scale
Thunderbird 4, 1/48 or 1/32
TB5 space station (with docking TB3), 1/288
FAB 1 limo, 1/24

Supercar, 1/24 or larger


John did you know that Aoshima have done a Thunderbird 1 in 1/144? It's a fairly new tool and it's very accurate. They also did a 1/350 TB2 which is accurate too. I really hope that one day some company does an accurate Space 1999 Eagle in 1/48 (or even a bit larger or smaller) as it's such an iconic well remembered craft with a huge following (in injection plastic). Another good thing about the Eagle too is that there's a lot of repeat patterns in the design, so it might be less costly to tool up.

I'd like to see a Munsters Haunted House to go along with the Addams Family Haunted house...complete with spooks, ghosts , you know scary stuff :)
Mcdee

Let me be the third to say: Defintiely the Wild Wild West!

West, Gordon, Loveless and Voltaire sold seperately with an interlocking base. Very cool!

I barely remember that show, but from what I do remember, it was pretty cool.

I'm kind of ambivalent about TWWW. It was all that was on in the afternoon and I watched it, sometimes out of sheer boredom. Occasionally it was really good, but there were times where it was like watching a train wreck. I couldn't take my eyes off it thought I wanted to. It was like being mesmerized by an ant bed I'd just stirred up with a stick. :drunk:

Moebius has announced the Flying Sub for later this year- but hasn't said what scale it would be. My guess: 1/24.

What would be the wingspan of a 1/24th scale Flying Sub.

What would be the wingspan of a 1/24th scale Flying Sub.

4.167% of the actual wingspan, IIRC.:confused:

The Aurora-Monogram FS was in which scale? 1/60?:confused:

I so... the 1/24 will be huge!!!!!!:woohoo:


Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

If I remember correctly,the Aurora Flying sub has a wingspan of about 8 inches.At 1/24th scale would mean about ?? inches.My guess would be the one to be issued by Moebius should more likely be around 12 inches wingspan maximum.And this scale would be???

Do you people even know what 1/24 means?

TOO FREAKIN BIG!!!!!!!

If the Aurora is 8" wide at 1/60, then 1/24 would be 20" wide.

Anybody got a 20" deep display shelf?

THINK, people!

Do you people even know what 1/24 means?

TOO FREAKIN BIG!!!!!!!

If the Aurora is 8" wide at 1/60, then 1/24 would be 20" wide.

Anybody got a 20" deep display shelf?

THINK, people!
Yes, I do, the space seems empty with only my 24 inch Jupiter 2 sitting there, I need something else in large size. I already have my space saved for my 39 inch Moebius seaview.

Yes, I do, the space seems empty with only my 24 inch Jupiter 2 sitting there, I need something else in large size. I already have my space saved for my 39 inch Moebius seaview.

...which is only about 8" wide at the bow fins and will fit fine on a 12" display shelf.

Do you think it will be financially feasible for Moebius to make a 20" round flying sub model that only a select few people will be able to afford and have space for?

John, true - but wouldn't that 1/48 Eagle you asking for a few posts ago also be a large model?

Huzz

1/24 FS-1 size depends on full size of "real" vehicle.
If you accept 35 ft beam and 35 ft length as given in the Fred Barr drawings 1/24 would be 17.5 inches.
Most conversation I've had indicates that accepted "real" dimensions are within the range suggested by Fred Barr.
@ 1/32 you get 13 1/8 inches
@ 1/48 8 3/4 inches
The 1/60 scale suggested for Aurora's kit would be 7 inches I have a ruler resting on the lower hull of Revell release of the Aurora - It measures 7 1/2 inches wide.

We have not decided a scale for our FS-1 kit at this date. I'm pretty sure that it will be no smaller than 1/48...

Dave

Would you beliece that my five year old is a huge Flying Sub fan? While I'm certain that I'll buy more than one of the new Moebius FS-1 kits, I'll also have to buy one for him.

And we can build it together!

Huzz

That makes sense.Anything from 1/48th to 1/32th scale would be ideal.That would be from around 10 inches to 13 inches wingspan.Of course in 1/24th scale or bigger,you could always play with it at the beach.:thumbsup:

John, true - but wouldn't that 1/48 Eagle you asking for a few posts ago also be a large model?

Huzz

A 1/48 Eagle would be about 22" long. I'm not overly concerned about long, thin models that will still fit lengthwise on a 12" wide shelf. I can't fit MANY of them, but I can manage it a lot better than a 20" round flying-saucer-shaped vehicle.

Come to think of it, I guess I doubt an Eagle that big would sell well either. 1/72 might be better at about 14".

Do you people even know what 1/24 means?

TOO FREAKIN BIG!!!!!!!

If the Aurora is 8" wide at 1/60, then 1/24 would be 20" wide.

Anybody got a 20" deep display shelf?

THINK, people!

I DO!!

Jeez, you can even mount thm on the wall like I've done with my Millenium Falcon model and C57D. I can open the dome to show folks the inside and it's not taking any shelf space.

Space:1999 was rather painful to watch in it's first run. The only major redeeming quality was the Hallmark of Gerry Anderson productions; the models !

Would love to see a 22 inch Styrene kit of the Eagle, with a followup of the Hawk. The Eagle at 22 inches would be the perfect compromise between the mini and the large-scale miniatures. With the changeable pods, there would also be the opoortunity to release various versions of the ship with minimal additional tooling.

In many respects, the Airfix Eagle kit ranks right up there is disappointment value with the Monogram Galactica; although that kit seems to have set a standard all by itself.

How about a sub with a flying bridge?

It's almost sf. US Submarine (http://www.ussubs.com/)

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/discover3.jpg
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/pic_incentives.jpg

How about a sub with a flying bridge?...
Went to the website- holy crap! Luxury submarines? You know someone is gonna commission a real Seaview. :drunk:

Do you people even know what 1/24 means?...
Yeah, EXCELLENT ceiling-hanging model. And hey, you guys into interiors: think of the possibilities.

Personally, I don't know if I'm even going to get the 39" Seaview. I like the idea of the Iconic Replicas 24" die-cast better, but it's $800!:(

Hello Roy

Just a small bit of advice, if you ever think seriously of buying the Iconic Replicas Seaview..... Try to see it in person before shedding you hard earned money... I have seen what Iconic replicas has made of the Thunderbirds for over 1000.$ ( transport + tax to Canada) and if the Seaview is like that, I wouldn't touch it with a pole......

I R Thunderbird 2 :24 in., was pre-sold at 36 in., very bad painting , no detached pod, banana shape ..... $1000.:confused::freak:

Takara ''toy'' Thunderbird 2 : 21in., operating legs & pod with complete interior, interior cabin, lightning, hatches with gadgets seen in the series, a lot of the pods vehicules available separately in the same scale ..... I bought 2 for $160. ea and 1 for $140. plus postage.:thumbsup:

I prefer a hundred times Moebius Seaview......:woohoo:

PS ; I have all the previously released Gerry Anderson diecasts from I R when they were called Product Enterprise and they are all very nice....:wave:


Gaétan

Space:1999 was rather painful to watch in it's first run. The only major redeeming quality was the Hallmark of Gerry Anderson productions; the models !

Would love to see a 22 inch Styrene kit of the Eagle, with a followup of the Hawk. The Eagle at 22 inches would be the perfect compromise between the mini and the large-scale miniatures. With the changeable pods, there would also be the opoortunity to release various versions of the ship with minimal additional tooling.

In many respects, the Airfix Eagle kit ranks right up there is disappointment value with the Monogram Galactica; although that kit seems to have set a standard all by itself.


Don't forget just about all of those older shows could be painful to watch at times including L.I.S., V.T.T.B.O.T.S, Blakes 7, B.Galactica (especially Galactica 80) etc, etc. The eagles are a masterpiece of design though and as you point out, quite a few variants can be made of them and not forgetting the repeat patterns which makes up the eagle design.

John - okay. 22 inches wouldn't be too big I think. Its a long but fairly skinny model so it could fit on a shelf.

Now a saucer 22 inches in diameter woud be a beast though!

Speaking of Eagles, I've got one of the recent Product Enterprise VIP Eagles sitting on my desk right now. Its the same scale as the old plastic kit. To be frank, from a distance it doesn't look much different. Up close though, the detail in the module cages is apparent - and the die cast material does add to its weight.

But honestly - I'd bet my bottom dollar that a few of the folks here could take an old plastic Eagle kit and detail it in such a way to at least equal, if not exceed, the visual impact of the Product Enterprise ship.

Huzz

John - okay. 22 inches wouldn't be too big I think. Its a long but fairly skinny model so it could fit on a shelf.

Now a saucer 22 inches in diameter woud be a beast though!

Speaking of Eagles, I've got one of the recent Product Enterprise VIP Eagles sitting on my desk right now. Its the same scale as the old plastic kit. To be frank, from a distance it doesn't look much different. Up close though, the detail in the module cages is apparent - and the die cast material does add to its weight.

But honestly - I'd bet my bottom dollar that a few of the folks here could take an old plastic Eagle kit and detail it in such a way to at least equal, if not exceed, the visual impact of the Product Enterprise ship.

Huzz


No doubt they could but I don't think most eagle fans would bother with the Airfix one now as we have the much more accurate 1/72 P.E. one. It just wouldn't be worth it as it's so innacurate and badly moulded.

An accurate injection 1/48th eagle........now that's a whole different ballgame. That size (or even slightly smaller) would allow for cockpit detail too (plus figures) and would be a great alternative to Iconic Replicas 23 inch eagle but would be much more affordable (not that I'd buy I.R's resin eagle anyway).

...if you ever think seriously of buying the Iconic Replicas Seaview..... Try to see it in person before shedding you hard earned money...I prefer a hundred times Moebius Seaview...
Thanks Gaetan, for the info regarding Iconic Replicas.

I wasn't trying to disparage Moebius's Seaview in any way. It's just that I'd personally prefer a 24" model to a 39" one. And usually, I'd prefer a die-cast kit- however, the price of zinc is through the roof now.

I DO!!

Jeez, you can even mount thm on the wall like I've done with my Millenium Falcon model and C57D. I can open the dome to show folks the inside and it's not taking any shelf space.

But I don't have any bare WALL space either! I've covered them all with display shelves for normal, sane-sized models! :lol:

http://www.inpayne.com/models/shelves/shelf_comproom.jpg

http://www.inpayne.com/models/shelves/shelf_other.jpg

I've got both the styrene (unbuilt) Eagle and the P.E. Yes, the P.E. is more detailed.

But I'm somewhat underwhelmed by it. I was really expecting more for my money. There is machinery detail behiond the module cages. But its all done in a grey color. If that section had included some detail painting to highlight some of the individual components in there, I woud have been more impressed.

And while the modules are heavy die cast pieces, the center spine between the modules is plastic with no metal reinforcements. It flexes and is not really adequate for the weight of the ship.

I really think I'd have more fun and satisfaction from the styrene kit, warts and all. And somewhere I've got a set of detail decals for my Eagle kit which should improve the final build too.

Huzz

Holy Ships!!!!! :jest:
Huzz

But I don't have any bare WALL space either! I've covered them all with display shelves for normal, sane-sized models!

...and lots of BLUE paint!

...and lots of BLUE paint!

That's SKY! :p

And not one cumulonimbus in sight... I say get out the airbrush and start painting.

What's all that empty ceiling space I see...???

Hhhhmmmmmm......

A 1/24 scale FS-1 could hang up there with room to spare. :)

I've got both the styrene (unbuilt) Eagle and the P.E. Yes, the P.E. is more detailed.

But I'm somewhat underwhelmed by it. I was really expecting more for my money. There is machinery detail behiond the module cages. But its all done in a grey color. If that section had included some detail painting to highlight some of the individual components in there, I woud have been more impressed.

And while the modules are heavy die cast pieces, the center spine between the modules is plastic with no metal reinforcements. It flexes and is not really adequate for the weight of the ship.

I really think I'd have more fun and satisfaction from the styrene kit, warts and all. And somewhere I've got a set of detail decals for my Eagle kit which should improve the final build too.

Huzz


The P.E. eagles are good but there's big room for improvement I agree. As I said the command module could do with some windows, cockpit detail and figures and I was disappointed that P.E. didn't do the pod windows in clear (tinted) plastic too, with perhaps some interior detail. The command module also looks to have slight accuracy issues aswell.

I like blue...

Here's my Falcon on the wall. Hides the fact I have damage on the underside.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/thumbs/MILFLKLN.jpg (http://photos.hobbytalk.com/showphoto.php/photo/26735)

I found a better use for the China Cabinet than displaying Marilyn Monroe collector plates...
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/thumbs/china.jpg (http://photos.hobbytalk.com/showphoto.php/photo/26736)

The unfinished B9 & Marta
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/thumbs/B9MRTA.jpg (http://photos.hobbytalk.com/showphoto.php/photo/26732)
My Antique Barrister bookcase with 1/32 and 1/72 airplanes.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/thumbs/Barrister.jpg (http://photos.hobbytalk.com/showphoto.php/photo/26733)

I really don't have a way to display the Jupiter 2 on those two "One Meter" class racing sailboats.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/thumbs/J2andAMCup.jpg (http://photos.hobbytalk.com/showphoto.php/photo/26734)