What Ignatz said!!!!!!

"George Pal's Martian War Machine and Time Machine. Proteus from Fantastic Voyage. Icarus from POTA. None have ever been in styrene. All are long overdue."

And:

Earth Vs Flying Saucers Saucer plus diorama base.

Earth Vs Flying Saucers Alien figure plus base.

Moorlock figure from "the Time Machine"

I disagree. 1/350 is one of those 'magic' scales with a lot of other offerings in the same scale. If you 1/200 then I'd simply rather see 1/144.


Club T - I take back what I said. I have the AMT Saturn 1B mocked up with a gantry and it seemed a more managable size, but it is half the size of a Saturn V, so you are right. As I mentioned, 1/200 would potentially save some tooling costs and time if you can aquire the AMT molds.

I think we were both in agreement though on the subject !

I know that Scott Alexander got into financial troubles over the large-scale Mercury kit. Perhaps there is an opportunity for a working relationship between Scott and Moebius on a Real Space line - Scott doing the masters and Moebius cutting the tooling and distributing the kits.

Also agree with the George Pal choice(s) they are long overdue, but they require licensing; was looking for some lower cost options, such as Real Space.

What would be the size of the War of the Worlds spaceship in 1/35th scale.Moebius and Monarch must have already made a list of the kits they are considering releasing.It would be nice if they gave us a peak at their lists.

What would be the size of the War of the Worlds spaceship in 1/35th scale.Moebius and Monarch must have already made a list of the kits they are considering releasing.It would be nice if they gave us a peak at their lists.

If I understand correctly......the Martian War Machines were 1' = 1" or 1/12th scale. And that they had a 48in. wingspan making them.....ta-da.....48 feet.

If this is correct then at 1/35th scale the M.W.M. would be 16.45in. wide.
The figure of the Priest would be about 2 1/8in tall.

I like the idea of the Priest/War Machine stand off, as it seems like a pretty powerful diorama display.

I think we were both in agreement though on the subject !


Agreed. And with the right parts layout on the trees, a crawler w/ space shuttle arrangement can be made also.


I too would love to see a collaboration between Scott and the Moebius gang.
Some of modeling best most creative minds.
I thought Scotts capsule was great, but the subject was just too darned big for my tastes and wallet. Also an Apollo capsule would have been even bigger had it been made.
Perhaps 1/24th. would have been better in the long run. But thats all water under the bridge.

On 2001, Dave has said before about the weird nature of the liscense and the Kubrick estate. But what about a 2010 liscense???? Does that fall into the same problems? 2010 is coming.....hint, hint.

Club T - I take back what I said. I have the AMT Saturn 1B mocked up with a gantry and it seemed a more managable size, but it is half the size of a Saturn V, so you are right. As I mentioned, 1/200 would potentially save some tooling costs and time if you can aquire the AMT molds.

I think we were both in agreement though on the subject !

I know that Scott Alexander got into financial troubles over the large-scale Mercury kit. Perhaps there is an opportunity for a working relationship between Scott and Moebius on a Real Space line - Scott doing the masters and Moebius cutting the tooling and distributing the kits.

Also agree with the George Pal choice(s) they are long overdue, but they require licensing; was looking for some lower cost options, such as Real Space.
Mr Wabac, do you build real space like me ? Thats what is needed, some real space kits from back in the good old days of Mercury, Gemini, & Apollo.

A wild dream: The Time Tunnel laboratory, could be interesting and a good use to the Irwin Allen franchise.

I agree with the 24 inch. J-2 and the bigger Spindrift. And if the J-2 could be 1/48, it can match with the spacepod already in production... imagine that diorama... The closest approach was the actual J-2 from PL with the spacepod from Johnny Lighting..., but with the two detalided models... :woohoo:

What do you think about it?

Regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

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Bert
Where can find more info about Henry's Launch Tower kit?

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Hello Alberto

The Jupiter 2 of Polar light being somewhere between1/48 and 1/60 (I consider it to be 1/54) it would be redundant for Moebius to produce a J-2 in 1/48.....

In my opinion the same case apply to the Flying sub , the Aurora original being 1/60, a new one at 1/48 would not change a lot apart from a better fit and more exact details. I vote for bigger than 1/48 if it is possible. 1/24 would be my preferred scale, if not, a 1/32 one would still conserve the ''WoW'' factor. Lunar Models made one F-S in that last scale but since it wasn't mass produced and without the level and accuracy of details expected from Moebius.......

Gaétan

Sticking with fictional items....

Airplanes.

1/48 or 1/32.

X-Men Blackbird-ish plane.
Firefox.
Blue Thunder.


Maybe a Raygun series too?
Robbys Blaster,
LIS lasers,
Babylon 5 PPG's,
Phasers,
Romulan Blasters,

and how about those wacky weapons from the Men in Black series?
Man from UNCLE guns.
The old Buck Rogers, and Flash Gordon guns.

Props and sets for existing models/figures:
Full mummys tomb w/snakes, valuables, 3 Stooges...

Spindrift set w grass, small animals etc

Jupiter 2 set in which the model(Polar Lite) sits on a ring with the campsite set pieces(pic-nic table, hydroponic garden, force field, tool boxes, figures)

Better Dracula, Frankenstein, Creature, Wolfman Bride display details and sets.

Dracula, standing on stairs with large spider web in background.
Wolfman with better bushes, trees and ground clutter.
Creature in underwater cave with it's magic illumination.
Lots more lab equipment and gadgets for the Bride
Frankensteins Monster with small child backing away..
Bigger, more detailed destroyed city for Godzilla to stomp through, including the footprints!

The longer, more sleek version of the Polaris 1 from "Space Explorers"

Wheres my other page of the wish list.......?

Y3a wrote:" Better Dracula, Frankenstein, Creature, Wolfman Bride display details and sets.

Dracula, standing on stairs with large spider web in background.
Wolfman with better bushes, trees and ground clutter.
Creature in underwater cave with it's magic illumination.
Lots more lab equipment and gadgets for the Bride
Frankensteins Monster with small child backing away..
Bigger, more detailed destroyed city for Godzilla to stomp through, including the footprints"
DITTO...DITTO...DITTO
Mcdee :cool:

Thank you for the info about the tower, Robiwon, and also for clarifying about the scales, Gaetan.

And for the list, we can look for the Man of UNCLE car, was originally made by AMT in the 60's, but was a great model, and after the original issue, it was lost. Was a very good model, with nice features (detailed engine, opening seagull doors...).

The ideas for the dioramas for the J-2 and the Spindrift are great!!!! The two of them in their crash locatios could make them more attractive.

Let's keep looking in our memories for memorable models!!!!! :wave:


Best regards,

Alberto
"There's always possibilities".- Spock

A firefox in 1/48 would be cool.

Also the X-men plane in 1/72 would be slick.

. . . And for the list, we can look for the Man of UNCLE car, was originally made by AMT in the 60's, but was a great model, and after the original issue, it was lost. Was a very good model, with nice features (detailed engine, opening seagull doors...).Now, that's an excellent suggestion for a re-release. I built one of those many years ago -- it was the "Mademoiselle L'Agente Secrète 97" issue, identical to the UNCLE version (right down to the license plate with embossed UNCLE logo), except the box art was in French. That was one cool-looking car. Here's a great source of info about the UNCLE car and the CRV/Piranha plastic-bodied race car it was based on:

http://www.c-we.com/piranha/index.htm

In my opinion the same case apply to the Flying sub , the Aurora original being 1/60, a new one at 1/48 would not change a lot apart from a better fit and more exact details.

This isn't the first time I'm seeing this thought, but I can't understand why people think 1/60 scale is so close to 1/48 as to not make a difference. I'm not entirely sure everybody grasps the sizes some scales will render.

1/60 is exactly between 1/72 and 1/48, and quite a bit smaller than 1/48! So A 1/48 flying sub would be something like 25% bigger than the Aurora model.

But a 1/24 FS would be too freakin' big to fit on anybody's display shelf (mine are only 12" deep)!

I'm going to have to clear a whole shelf for the Seaview as it is. Let's take it easy with the model sizes here, okay? Not everybody's into studio scale. Some of us already have full shelves, and would like to squeeze a few more models onto them!

Hello John

I didn't mean they would be the same size, only that there would not be a great difference of size beetwen the two. At the widest, from wing tip to wing tip, the Aurora 1/60 measure 7.5 inches. Then convert that to 1/48 and it gives you 9.375 inches. It's bigger yes, but with Moebius takes on the Seaview, Chariot and Pod (All bigger and way better than what was available before) I am expecting a more drastic departure from what was done before......

I guess we will know in a few weeks and will have to live with what Frank will decide to give us either way.......

An anticipating Gaétan...

I guess we will know in a few weeks and will have to live with what Frank will decide to give us either way.......

(*crossing fingers*)
Moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
.... :wave:

(*crossing fingers*)
Moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
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moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...
.... :wave:

Moonbus... moonbus... moonbus...

And probably the EVA Pod, there was one great model in eBay, but was $100 and somenting..., even though the detail was incredible, it was resin and too expensive. Probably somenthing in plastic could be more affordable. And a wild dream: the Discovery... menawhile:

moonbus... moonbus... moonbus

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

I can imagine that these licenses do not come cheap, and Frank already has two (that we know of - the Irwin Allen Estate and Universal Monsters). It would probably be stretching his resources pretty thin to shell out for too many properties until substantial revenue starts coming in from the kits that are covered by these existing ones.

Not to dampen anyone's enthusiasm about any potential future kits, though... :)

Hello John

I didn't mean they would be the same size, only that there would not be a great difference of size beetwen the two. At the widest, from wing tip to wing tip, the Aurora 1/60 measure 7.5 inches. Then convert that to 1/48 and it gives you 9.375 inches. It's bigger yes, but with Moebius takes on the Seaview, Chariot and Pod (All bigger and way better than what was available before) I am expecting a more drastic departure from what was done before......

I guess we will know in a few weeks and will have to live with what Frank will decide to give us either way.......

An anticipating Gaétan...

9 & 3/8" sounds great to me! That puts a 1/24 kit at 18.75" wide, and that's WAY too big for my shelves, and, I suspect, for the average modeler. I'm thinkin' Frank'll sell a LOT more if it's a moderate size that more people have room for.

Perhaps MONARCH should go for that licence then.

9 & 3/8" sounds great to me! That puts a 1/24 kit at 18.75" wide, and that's WAY too big for my shelves, and, I suspect, for the average modeler.

I'm with JP on this. Super-sized models are for large house dwellers.

IMO, few Sci-fi models actually increase their level of detail with an increase of size. Example: major accuracy issues aside, the 1/350 Refit Enterprise is hardly that much more detailed than the old 1/537, it's simply bigger. I have one and I'm really going to have to wait to assemble it until I live in a bigger house.

I can't wait until my Fine Molds Millenium Falcon is done so I can throw that frakin' huge kit box away - I actually LIKE that the FMMF is smaller than the old Ertl kit!

John O.

I know the desire for this subject/kit is probably very low, but I thought I'd put it out there:

How 'bout a nice Serenity.

She's a little "esthetically challenged", I know, but that weird ship has grown on me as a positive side effect of really liking the show, characters, writing, costumes, sets, etc. It could be kinda cool if the tail were molded clear and the rotor could be motorized, with clear bridge windows so you could see a tiny little Wash (in his Hawaiian shirt) at the controls. Ah well, one can dream.

John O.

This isn't the first time I'm seeing this thought, but I can't understand why people think 1/60 scale is so close to 1/48 as to not make a difference. I'm not entirely sure everybody grasps the sizes some scales will render.

1/60 is exactly between 1/72 and 1/48, and quite a bit smaller than 1/48! So A 1/48 flying sub would be something like 25% bigger than the Aurora model.

But a 1/24 FS would be too freakin' big to fit on anybody's display shelf (mine are only 12" deep)!

I'm going to have to clear a whole shelf for the Seaview as it is. Let's take it easy with the model sizes here, okay? Not everybody's into studio scale. Some of us already have full shelves, and would like to squeeze a few more models onto them!

Agreed.
I think too many people ( not anyone here specifically ) don't really grasp what their saying in terms of scale and just throw numbers out like 'buzz words' that they've heard.
"How about a 1/350 scale Battlestar Galactica......"
Uhhhhhh, yeah, ok. Next please.

I still think that not caring about the scale of a model, is like not caring about painting it.
Some people think I'm obsessed over the scale of the Seaview - but putting it next to other 1/144 subjects is part of the fun of modeling for me.

I'm also not really a 'studio scale' guy - wanting subjects that are the same size as a shooting miniature. I'd much rather have a subject in a 'common' scale of some kind.
In the case of the flying sub, I thought 1/48 seemed the most reasonable for several reasons. Size, scale, percieved cost of manufacturing vs. cost of final product vs. subject popularity etc. 1/48 is an extremely popular scale with tons of other stuff available. 1/32 is also a likely candidate but as John says, it starts getting too big and hense more expensive for what the subject is.

Agreed.
I think too many people ( not anyone here specifically ) don't really grasp what their saying in terms of scale and just throw numbers out like 'buzz words' that they've heard.
"How about a 1/350 scale Battlestar Galactica......"
Uhhhhhh, yeah, ok. Next please.

I still think that not caring about the scale of a model, is like not caring about painting it.
Some people think I'm obsessed over the scale of the Seaview - but putting it next to other 1/144 subjects is part of the fun of modeling for me.

I'm also not really a 'studio scale' guy - wanting subjects that are the same size as a shooting miniature. I'd much rather have a subject in a 'common' scale of some kind.
In the case of the flying sub, I thought 1/48 seemed the most reasonable for several reasons. Size, scale, percieved cost of manufacturing vs. cost of final product vs. subject popularity etc. 1/48 is an extremely popular scale with tons of other stuff available. 1/32 is also a likely candidate but as John says, it starts getting too big and hense more expensive for what the subject is.


Agree

Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

I know the desire for this subject/kit is probably very low, but I thought I'd put it out there:

How 'bout a nice Serenity.

She's a little "esthetically challenged", I know, but that weird ship has grown on me as a positive side effect of really liking the show, characters, writing, costumes, sets, etc. It could be kinda cool if the tail were molded clear and the rotor could be motorized, with clear bridge windows so you could see a tiny little Wash (in his Hawaiian shirt) at the controls. Ah well, one can dream.

John O.

Oh, seconded with furvor!

Edgar Allen Poe!

He could come complete with crow. :thumbsup:

I always thought the interior of the PL J2 was closer to 1/72 scale. At least from looking at the seats, consols and stasis tubes...

As for a Jupiter 2, the main thing to me is the hull contour. Having gotten that right, I'd like to have landing gear that, at the very least, manually operates with all legs geared together. That is, pull on one gear leg, and the others come down the same amount.

As for scale, if it comes with a launch pad and gantries, I'd prefer a smaller scale. Somewhere around the size of the Polar Lights model. For ceiling display, a two-footer would do better.

I always thought the interior of the PL J2 was closer to 1/72 scale. At least from looking at the seats, consols and stasis tubes...

I think was more 1/48, specially that the lower deck looks smaller than the upper one...

Who knows... :confused:


Best regards,

Alberto

"There's always possibilities".- Spock

If I remember correctly, they get into the whole scale issues of the PL J2 in the instructions.

Edgar Allen Poe!

He could come complete with crow. :thumbsup:

perched on a skull atop an old roll top desk...I like it!!
Mcdee :thumbsup:

perched on a skull atop an old roll top desk...I like it!!
Mcdee :thumbsup:

Yes! :)

That would be a cool "Goth" sort of model kit!

There's also, in public domain, "Varney the Vampyre"--probably too obscure, though.

And for those who might want to mix Christmas with ghosts, how about Scrooge and Marley's ghost?

In the realm of licensed properties: how about a model of Vincent Price in one of his famous roles?

Scrooge in the likeness of Alister Simms (might be wrong on the name?) With Marley or Ghost #3,,,Death in the graveyard...Keep talking Perfesser I like what I'm hearing :thumbsup:
Mcdee

Scrooge in the likeness of Alister Simms (might be wrong on the name?) With Marley or Ghost #3,,,Death in the graveyard...Keep talking Perfesser I like what I'm hearing :thumbsup:
Mcdee

You've got a point there: the scene of the Death figure pointing at Scrooge's grave would probably be best. He could even be grasping the bed curtains/robes on one side of Death while Death points at the gravestone on the other side.

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Alastair Sim as Scrooge with Marley's Ghost? That sounds do-able.

how about some highly detailed ROBOTS? All in scale like 1/6. Have them highly pose-able. Do Robby. Gort. B9. TOBOR. John. Robert. Huey, Dewy, and Louie. T800,T1000, etc. How about an interior on THOSE! Showing the COSTUME details inside. a foot tall Robbie with flexing legs and arms, and a detailed head would be a nice display piece too. Right next to B9 with correct head&neck. Rubber treads. maybe REAL RUBBER for the arms, legs, and ankles? Gort would still be pretty much a one piece deal (maybe the hands and feet swivel on the ends of the arm/legs) John (Journey to a Prehistoric Planet) is mostly simple joints. This isn't too obscure is it?
I Agree, A bigger B-9 and a bigger Robby the robot in scale with each other. OH, And a BIGGER JUPITER 2.

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Not for me, it isn't! I love that big Russian fella. Looks like he's made of cast iron and surplus tractor parts. Strong like bull!

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Alastair Sim as Scrooge with Marley's Ghost? That sounds do-able.

Glad I didn't mention Tiny Tim, I have a feeling he'd be playing a ukulele!
Mcdee :rolleyes:

It's not a bad idea to reissue bigger and better Lost In Space kits,but since they were sold by Polar Lights not too long ago,would modelers fork up some more dough for the same subjects again,sold at a higher prices on top of that because of production costs for bigger kits.Maybe they would,you can never tell.Perhaps a survey indicating scale and price estimate on several kits posted in several modeling magazines would settle this dilemma.

More Figures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris.

I Agree, A bigger B-9 and a bigger Robby the robot in scale with each other. OH, And a BIGGER JUPITER 2.

I agree. 1/6 offers a LOT of stuff in the same scale when you also take into account 12" action figures etc.

1/6 items.

B-9
Robby
T-101
Huey, Duey, Louie.

I still say a styrene Disney Nautilus...unlike some of these other subjects which I also enjoy, this early, perhaps even first "Cinematic Icon", has never been done as a Styrene kit. Eveeryone should have a Nautilus :) just my opinion of course:hat:
Will

I still say a styrene Disney Nautilus...unlike some of these other subjects which I also enjoy, this early, perhaps even first "Cinematic Icon", has never been done as a Styrene kit. Eveeryone should have a Nautilus

I guess, if someone were asking me what subject would be a guaranteed home run as a first subject for a new model company who's focus was going to be sci-fi and pop-culture genre model kits (if reasonable licensing were available) I'd say Disney Nautilus. I certainly have other favorite subjects, but the Nautilus has remained nearly unattainable.

Anyone remember the Nautilus finished display model sold through the Disney stores? (Will, weren't you one of the fathers of this product?) A very handsome piece (a friend of mine has one), but they sold soooo fast, in limited numbers, and for far more than most enthusiasts could reasonably afford. Who in their right mind would cut one open to add an interior to the wheel house or the salon, or to make it a functioning RC sub? No-one, they’re too rare for hobbyist to have any fun with.

It might be too late. IMO, Disney missed the boat (pun apology) when they didn’t issue a kit in the 60’s and 70’s where they still had tie-ins possible in their major parks. Now it’s as if 20K never existed (Mary Poppins, too) ...unless you want to go to TokyoDisney to pick up your 20K tie in merchandise!!! I think a Nautilus kit could have been as ubiquitous and iconic as the 18" AMT TOS Enterprise still is even for all it’s flaws.

BTW, anyone seen this? http://www.vulcaniasubmarine.com/

John O.

I still say a styrene Disney Nautilus...unlike some of these other subjects which I also enjoy, this early, perhaps even first "Cinematic Icon", has never been done as a Styrene kit. Eveeryone should have a Nautilus :) just my opinion of course:hat:
Will

How big is the Nauilus?

What scale does that work out to be in 1/128..........I mean 1/144!

If the Custom Replicas kit @1/32 scale is 66 inches than The "real" Nautilus ought to be 176 feet in length.......

If the Custom Replicas kit @1/32 scale is 66 inches than The "real" Nautilus ought to be 176 feet in length.......That sounds about right, given what I remember of the studio blueprints. The Disney Nautilus is actually quite small, compared to Jules Verne's description, but more in keeping with what might have been possible with circa-1870 technology.

I would go for a smaller C-57-D from FORBIDDEN PLANET with tractor and
working landing gear and perhaps a classic TV space ship set from the 50's
with ships from TOM CORBETT/SPACE PATROL/CAPTAIN VIDEO.

Yes Rich and I were the pattern makers for the masters of the 50th anniversary Disney Nautilus. It was a labor of love though I wish we had been able to have more time with her :) She sure sold super fast, less than a week and they were gone....never in the history of the Disneystore Catalog had they seen an item sell out so fast.
178 feet or 2136" is the length of the Nautilus. There are a lot of reasons this is the size not to mention the fact the full size set had 2" diameter rivet heads.
If you take into account the 11 footer was 133.500" long and 1/16 scale you can figure out all scales from there.
To answer the question on 1/144 scale...the length would be 14.833" respectively, a 1/128 scale boat would be 16.6875" long. Now the 66"er was made with what they knew.....thinking the boat was 175" If i recall. At 1/32 scale, the 178' Nautilus should be 66.750" long, total length
hope this helps..
Sincerely,
Will