They also showed it in the first episode of season 3 (in reverse) when they took off from Wally Cox's planet. :)

They just re used the Black and White footage from the first season, With a Blue Filter.

BP

They just re used the Black and White footage from the first season, With a Blue Filter.

They did use a blue filter for later use of some of the BW effects but I think that particular effects sequence was originally color, IIRC.

They did use a blue filter for later use of some of the BW effects but I think that particular effects sequence was originally color, IIRC.


If we are talking about the Launch sequence, I believe, It was used in later seasons with a Blue filter.

The Crash sequence was Filmed in color.

From my reference material, I don't believe Allen shot the launch in Color.

He Did want to film the whole Pilot in color, But Fox refused and would only allow it if Allen paid for it out of his own pocket.

If we are talking about the Launch sequence, I believe, It was used in later seasons with a Blue filter.

The Crash sequence was Filmed in color.

From my reference material, I don't believe Allen shot the launch in Color.

He Did want to film the whole Pilot in color, But Fox refused and would only allow it if Allen paid for it out of his own pocket.

Exactly what I was thinking. I've seen the color footage from a DVD and remember the crash being in color.

All second Unit (SPFX) film was in color. Fox did that since 1958 or so.

All second Unit (SPFX) film was in color. Fox did that since 1958 or so.
If so, the launch should have been in color, as well as the meteor shower, the orbit of Priplanus, and the Derelict footage. All these scenes appeared again in 2nd- and 3rd- season(color) episodes, in B&W.

Very true that those footages were used in seasons 2 & 3, but if you'll notice, they were refilmed through colored filters; the Derelict footage is all "red", the meteor shower is all "blue", etc.

Very true that those footages were used in seasons 2 & 3, but if you'll notice, they were refilmed through colored filters; the Derelict footage is all "red", the meteor shower is all "blue", etc.
To me, the question remains: which of the first season special effects shots were originally filmed in color?

Seeing the Jupiter 2/Gemini XII launching, or manuevering to land inside the Derelict, in original color, would be extremely interesting, to say the least...

To me, the question remains: which of the first season special effects shots were originally filmed in color?

Seeing the Jupiter 2/Gemini XII launching, or manuevering to land inside the Derelict, in original color, would be extremely interesting, to say the least...

The only footage filmed in color was.........

The Crash Landing
All the scenes with the Chariot
The Cyclops and Chariot.

...Additional footage to be viewed through the Chariot's windows of Priplanus as it made it's way across the planet.

The only footage filmed in color was.........

The Crash Landing
All the scenes with the Chariot
The Cyclops and Chariot.

...Additional footage to be viewed through the Chariot's windows of Priplanus as it made it's way across the planet.
Firstly, please understand that I'm not questioning your veracity, or that of others here. But, would the cameramen on Lost in Space say what you've just said?

Is it possible that the special effects footage now known only to exist in B&W was filmed in color, and subsequently lost? There are precedents for such things in Hollywood: as you probably know, the color footage from Star Trek's "The Cage", which was not used in "The Menagerie", was lost for many years- during which time it existed only in B&W. Of course, Gene Roddenberry, and others, knew that "The Cage" was shot entirely in color.

Firstly, please understand that I'm not questioning your veracity, or that of others here. But, would the cameramen on Lost in Space say what you've just said?

Is it possible that the special effects footage now known only to exist in B&W was filmed in color, and subsequently lost? There are precedents for such things in Hollywood: as you probably know, the color footage from Star Trek's "The Cage", which was not used in "The Menagerie", was lost for many years- during which time it existed only in B&W. Of course, Gene Roddenberry, and others, knew that "The Cage" was shot entirely in color.

I sincerely hope they did do the whole pilot in color, and would be glad to be proven incorrect ..However...

All OF MY reference material basically states the same thing, in regards to what was filmed in color and what wasn't.

Is it possible that the special effects footage now known only to exist in B&W was filmed in color, and subsequently lost? There are precedents for such things in Hollywood: as you probably know, the color footage from Star Trek's "The Cage", which was not used in "The Menagerie", was lost for many years- during which time it existed only in B&W.It was common knowledge that the Trek pilot was filmed in color, but for many years the only known complete, uncut version of "The Cage" was Gene Roddenberry's personal 16mm black-and-white print, which was somewhat the worse for wear after being schlepped around and shown at conventions for 15 years. A surviving color print of the complete pilot was discovered sometime in the late 1980s.

Sure, all kinds of things are possible. The censored scenes from King Kong were discovered and restored in 1969. For all we know, there could be an uncut print of The Magnificent Ambersons or the original 8-hour version of Greed sitting in a barn in Albania. Highly unlikely, but possible!

I'm too lazy to go read through my L.B.Abbott book again to find a single sentence, but He stated ALL the second unit work was done in color at FOX after 1958 or so. Same for the pyrotechnic group. I assume the underwater guys also filmed exclusively in color.

The original color shots could be lost due to poor storage, theft or poor handling or even mislaid!

The original color shots could be lost due to poor storage, theft or poor handling or even mislaid!


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I'm too lazy to go read through my L.B.Abbott book again to find a single sentence...
Obviously, I'm guilty of being supremely lazy myself. I should do at least some research of my own on this, before asking y'all for help.

The original color shots could be lost due to poor storage, theft or poor handling or even mislaid!

There are certainly plenty of examples of that happening in the past! :p

One of the primary reasons for SOP 2nd unit color filming would for later sales of "stock film". This is just another way that the studios make money on their projects, by selling footage for use as stock film in other movies. The Irwin Allen FX sequences are prime candidates for this use (some Jupiter II FX footage was seen in at least one other film I've seen but the title escapes me at the moment).

OK, enough typing. We NEED more photos!!!

http://www.vttbots.com/Graphics/seaview_bubblers.jpg

http://www.vttbots.com/Graphics/hedison_moat_boats.jpg

http://www.vttbots.com/Graphics/seaview_effects_divers.jpg

http://www.vttbots.com/Graphics/seaview_creature_latest_soft_done.jpg

http://www.vttbots.com/Graphics/fs1_claw2.jpg

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I've seen that model on the episodes lately and can't help but notice that, at the time of filming, there appears to be some major damage at the front end where there is a horizontal slit on the port bow between the windows. Anyone else notice?:confused:

It's not damage, but part of the 8-window bow design, as evidenced by the movie poster from 1961.

http://www.billcotter.com/places/voyage-1.jpg

...there appears to be some major damage at the front end where there is a horizontal slit on the port bow between the windows...
I see the dark line you're talking about, but the photo is too low-res to make out the cause.

Interesting that Revell sponsored the Seaview model contest. Gotta wonder how different their Seaview kit would've been.

I see the dark line you're talking about, but the photo is too low-res to make out the cause.

That's not damage. It's a weld seam IMO. When I built my PL Seaview I actually scribed the horizontal line between the windows to match the photos of the movie miniature:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Trekriffic/New%20Ships%2003-03-07/SeaviewBowPortsidedetail.jpg

Still of the studio model:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/Trekriffic/Miscellaneous%20Images/Seaviewbw.jpg

Ah, I see what you're talking about but doesn't it seem to separate a little too much there at the front? :confused:

Isn't there an awning for the lower windows?

Isn't there an awning for the lower windows?

Like for swim call? :confused:

http://www.eugeneweb.com/~ian/funnypics/BaggedRetard.jpgLike for swim call? :confused:

http://www.eugeneweb.com/~ian/funnypics/BaggedRetard.jpg

Sorry ADM! I didn't mean to make your head catch on fire! :eek:

Is the Admiral smoking in bed again?

Is the Admiral smoking in bed again?

He's smoking something! :confused:

Isn't there an awning for the lower windows?

Yeah. The awning extends out from that slot between the windows. :rolleyes:

Yeah. The awning extends out from that slot between the windows...
I figured if it's too big for a weld seam, maybe it's a curtain rod. But now I'm thinking that's where the spinning saw blades come out.

Spinning saw or awning, either way would make for a really cool waterslide off the bow! :woohoo:

I never watched it as a kid but have been since American Life channel has been showing it. I noticed that the other night, no holes in the floor but yet the camera angle suggests it's dropping down!
The nice thing about this channel is they started VTBOS, Lost in Space, Time Tunnel, and Land of the Giants all at the same time, with each series first episode! Every Thursday night is a must see TV night now. Robiwon this is off the thread kind of but where did you get the photo of the Gemini 12 for your identity photo? I'd love to see a larger shot of that model. Take care.:)

Hello,

Many thanks for the posting the pictures. The above picture exactly captures what I have posted that I would like to see as a new kit from Moebius. I think it would be great as a kit; 12 inch diameter Gemini XII and then the launch cradle and tractor/towers. WOW!

Jim Beautiful photo. I too would love to see an accurate, larger scale model of the Gemini 12...........!!!:thumbsup:

Hi eveybody

First time poster, long time lurker on these here boards.I've seen some fantastic work here, Lost of great talent. I too look foreward to the up coming
FS-1 and Irwin Allen related Models.



Cheers

trekriffic

Very nicely done, Most people I know, either don't notice the the partition seem line across the bow between the upper and lower windows, or decidedly ignor it.

Ok now my contribution

http://www.freewebs.com/scifivehiclevault/apps/photos/


http://www.freewebs.com/scifivehiclevault/apps/photos/photo.jsp?photoID=19189584&prev=1

Welcome to HobbyTalk megabot11 Thanks for the great link !

Hello Model Maker

Thanks.

If anyone wants a scan of that interior schematic of the Seaview shown in the previous screen cap. PM me. I received a copy many years ago from person who had a relative that worked at 20th Century Fox in the 60's.

I love that cutaway! I remember trying to blow it up big enough to matter with my ViewMaster projector as a kid. :)

Love this pic!

BP, do you have any other colorized photos of Gemini XII? If possible, I'm particularly interested in seeing one taken of the ship in the Priplanus crash site, or of the Jupiter II with the dirt smudges all around the hull, sitting atop a perfectly sized mesa with a coincidentally placed dirt pathway leading down from the hatch (the same set-up from when the Robot takes his soil sampling).

Here are a couple of colorized pictures from the pilot, hope these help

trekriffic

Very nicely done, Most people I know, either don't notice the the partition seem line across the bow between the upper and lower windows, or decidedly ignor it.

I have some softcover books copyright ca. 1992 on Voyage, Lost, Time Tunnel and Giants. In there somewhere is a reference to the seam between window levels on the 8 foot model. It's attributed to a portion of the nose being cut, removed and replaced to allow an interior to be installed after completion of the hull.

I have some softcover books copyright ca. 1992 on Voyage, Lost, Time Tunnel and Giants. In there somewhere is a reference to the seam between window levels on the 8 foot model. It's attributed to a portion of the nose being cut, removed and replaced to allow an interior to be installed after completion of the hull.


:thumbsup:CORRECT!