I stumbled upon the Speed Channel last week, and what was on? A re-broadcast of the B-J auction from Spring 2007 in Scottsdale AZ. Lots of really wicked cool cars, but 2 of the coolest were the Dodge Firearrow II and III. I think they went for around $1 million apiece.

I'm hoping GL seriously considers making these - how many different Vettes and Cudas can you sell? :thumbsup:

WHAT?! No one has any ideas for new B-J cars from GL? :confused:

Maybe I'll see some subjects at B-J that would make good GL models..I'm going Saturday.

How about the $5 Million Shelby Cobra? :thumbsup:

Actually any Cobra would be great....

It would be hard to top the Shelby Collectibles and High Speed Cobras.
Would be nice to see a 289 version but better yet, how about a GT40 in Mark I, II, and IV flavors.

Yea, I got one...slow down on the BJ cars! But as far as castings go, I don't think you will see to many "one off" cars as they can't be repackaged over and over. To get your money out of the tooling, you have to be able to maximize your investment.

I am just sick to death of muscle cars. How about something....ANYTHING else.
I wish GL would at least TRY to be a little more creative and not take the "safe" path almost always.
GREAT idea on the '50s Chrysler show cars. The DeSoto Adventurer is THE best looking Chry show car of all time, in my opinion. Or what about the Chrysler Turbine for chrissakes?! For such an important car, I've only seen ONE diecast version - it was 1/43rd scale and it sucked...bad.
There are just soooo many amazing cars to replicate in diecast. Why everyone insists on limiting themselves to Cudas, Camaros, etc to me just shows a lack of automobile interest and heart.
But hey, maybe GL hasn't broken even yet financially and has to make what will sell in high quantities.
Here's to ya GL. You make some fine models. Heck, I don't even really like muscle cars that much but I have a few from GL and several from JL - just 'cause they're so NICE!!!
But for the love of GOD and all that is wholly, pllleeeaaassse make something else!
Sorry for the rant, gents;) had to get that off my chest...again.
Great topic Quantum.
-LMX-

EDIT: That's an exellent point, Ward for sure. But that doesn't mean they couldn't make a couple show cars to really show that their heart is in it. JL has a few.

I still think somebody needs to do Edsels. Station wagons, convertibles, everything. Some very interesting colors with those too.

The problem with showcars is they are 1 version only..I couldn't see GL investing in tooling that they could only do 1 version of.. the '60s-70s muscle cars lend themselves to many versions and the Baby Boomers seem to love 'em..

I say more cuda`s,more engine choices,more colors,wheels,conv.,etc.. There are easily another 50-100 or more combinations they could get from this casting .They have barely touched the possibilities on the cuda`s.They could also branch out into the 70 challengers,69 dodge daytona`s,etc.

The problem with showcars is they are 1 version only..I couldn't see GL investing in tooling that they could only do 1 version of.. the '60s-70s muscle cars lend themselves to many versions and the Baby Boomers seem to love 'em..


Where did I here that befor? :p :p Yep, I think you dead on Robert.

I do agree Lummox, I like GL (a lot) but holy cow......enough of the Cuda's and 300J's!!!!!!!!!!

Or what about the Chrysler Turbine for chrissakes?! For such an important car, I've only seen ONE diecast version - it was 1/43rd scale and it sucked...bad.

I have the 1:18 by Road Signature, and it's not horrible. But I agree with Robert that manufacturers definitely go with re-use flexibility of a casting over uniqueness.

I don't understand why many of you think they could only make one version of Detroit show cars. I would buy any & all era-appropriate colors of Virgil Exner's beautiful '50s Chrysler-Ghias, plus as many different 1963 Ghia-Turbines as they would care to make.

I've been in love with the Chrysler Turbine Car since I first saw The Lively Set in the theater as a kid. The scene in which the hood blows off during the race and we get to see the actual turbine at work still gives me goosebumps. I've been lucky enough to see two or three Turbine Cars up close & in person at museums. (Always seeing it in bronze is getting to be at least as boring as always seeing silver DeLoreans!)

The whole idea behind Dream Cars is for us to fantasize about owning them (or cars much like them) ourselves - therefore I think most of them would look great in era-appropriate factory colors.

I was just thinking about the New Ray 1/43 Turbine convertible that I found in metallic red the other day at Dollar General; it's a total fantasy version because it's a top-down convertible, but I still love it! It shows how great El Engel's basic design of the Turbine is, and how cool the cvt version would've looked if it had ever gone into production.

What I wouldn't give to own many excellent 1/64 versions of the Chrysler Ghia Turbine Car in bronze, white (its 2 orig colors) plus burgundy, dark navy, black, '60s metallic aqua, gold, tan, charcoal and at least 3 dozen others. With and without contrasting and complimentary colored vinyl tops. Wow - I can see them all in my imagination - what a beautiful bunch! Fantasy convertibles would be even more amazing.

Show cars aren't like funny cars - most dragsters had specifically identifiable colors and livery that changed very little from season to season - it would make no sense to ever make a green Mongoose -but show cars are intended to be flights of fancy, so their spectrum of potential colors is virtually unlimited. At least for me...so I say bring 'em on!

At least for me...

that whole paragraph, I think, comes down to that quote...

might want to do a poll, but don't think yer gonna like the results... have a feeling yer in a very small majority... I looked up some pics on the old Chrysler turbines and I can say I wouldn't buy them... couple diescast friends said the same, they would be peg warmers.

U can bash people here all you ant, but that ain't gonna make people buy them anymore than they would...and it's all about the money with a diecast company, if it don't make people spend money, they ain't gonna make it...


...by the way, don't care how overdone they are... would like to see GL do one...even just one...60's Camaro... you mean in all those BJ auctions they've never sold even 1 60's Camaro?

...by the way, don't care how overdone they are... would like to see GL do one...even just one...60's Camaro... you mean in all those BJ auctions they've never sold even 1 60's Camaro?

No, there were dozens of '60s Camaros at B-J this year...but in diecast, JL seems to have covered that market pretty well... one of things I like about GL is for the most part, they haven't been duplicating JLs offerings..they have done some unique subjects that JL and others haven't done (like the '63/64 Chryslers, '67/68 Impalas, etc)..I'd like to see them continue doing that, and not duplicate everything that has already been done elsewhere...

U can bash people here all you ant, but that ain't gonna make people buy them anymore than they would...and it's all about the money with a diecast company, if it don't make people spend money, they ain't gonna make it...

I have never "bashed" anyone here nor anywhere else on the internet, and I cannot see how you interpreted any of my previous post as a "bash".

If you don't agree w/ my opinion, fine, but please don't accuse me of bashing anyone when I most clearly did not. That simply is not the manner in which I express myself in any forum.

I merely said that I didn't understand why anyone who likes show cars would limit themselves to buying the one original color of each. Other posters, including the OP, requested the show cars before I did, so that's not even what my post was about. I was specifically addressing color combination flexibility.

It all depends on why each individual person collects diecast cars as to whether or not they would buy show cars, turbine cars or other niche designs.

When viewed on a global scale the diecast market has room for thousands of seemingly obscure models. Many of the ones I would most like to own are not even available here, nor will they ever be. (The don't even show up on the bay.) Yet companies continue to produce them, so there must be enough people buying them somewhere to turn a profit.

I like muscle cars as much as any other facet of modern automotive history, but it is getting a little tiresome that they are apparently the only surefire profitable vein of the domestic diecast market.

I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that I will never get to buy a 1/64 Kaiser Manhattan, Marmon V-16, Pierce Silver Arrow, Bricklin, Gaylord, Studebaker Lark, nor Chrysler Ghia Turbine....although there are thousands of people around the world who admire these types of cars the same way that I do. (I know this because people in many other countries keep creating their own websites and posting pics on them of interesting cars like these.)

The true keys to success are marketing and distribution: Getting the niche products to the niche consumers who have been wanting them and waiting to buy them their entire lives.

But I will admit that that is a tough nut to crack. The Internet Age should've solved it by now, but I'll just have to be a little more patient, I guess.

I am just sick to death of muscle cars. How about something....ANYTHING else.


You and me both. I have been spending most of my diecast money lately on Kyosho and Malibu(High Speed) cars. I am now up to 50 different Ferrari models, a dozen new Audis, Alfa Romeros, Australian Fords and Holdens, etc. I love muscle cars but there is so much more out there and I really don't need another 69 Camaro, 69-70 Mach I, or 70 Cuda.

Granted I am in the minority here in the U.S. which makes it kind of nice to talk to our fellow collectors in other countries every so often.