I've been seeing the commercials on Fox for this. It premiers next Sunday. I'll give it a try but I am not sure how it will fare. IMDB says it takes place after the events in T2 and they are completely ignoring T3 and treating it as non-canon.

We have Summer Glau as a Terminator model of some sort, appearing to help John and Sarah Connor.

I couldn't find any good pictures but it looks like they also did some medium redesign on the 'standard' Terminator model (T-101?, T-800? someone decide..) it doesn't look so much like a frame for the exo-flesh as it does a regular humaniform robot... pardon me for the pun, but it looks too 'fleshed out'.

Here's hoping it's good enough to survive but from what I've seen and read, and giving Fox it's allowance for screwing up a good thing, I fear it will wind up being 'Terminator: OC' or something along those lines.

Yahoo put up Sat (a full week ahead of broadcast) a full length stream of the premiere
http://tv.yahoo.com/terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles/show/39221/videos

I watched the vid that 'shecky links us to above on Saturday morning. Doesn't look too bad, tho I'm not totally agiddy over what I saw. I'll give it a shot for three or so episodes.

I'll probably give it a shot, but from the commercials I'm going to be surprised if this isn't a dog.

I'll give it a chance based on Summer Glau alone.
It'll actually probably do well, considering there's not much scripted programming due to the WGA strike.

On a related note, CBS was wise to hold the second season of Jericho for the same reason.

I'll pass. The Terminator was a great sci-fi story and I liked the "road to the unknown" ending. T2 was OK, but IMO somewhat tarnished the original. The only good thing out of T3 was the back shot when the fem Terminator appeared.

Summer Glau is awesome... she was scary as hell in Serenity and fights great. I think she'd make a good Terminator. It all comes down to the writing though... we'll see.

It was filmed last summer and kept in the can. I saw it. Don't like it. Sometimes the teeny-bop-inator acts like a real girl, and sometimes tries her version of arnuld.

I'm in my early 50's so I can say that I've seen the old shows and the new ones, movies too. I have to say that I really miss the old shows and movies of the 60's and 70's. Movies like the Omega Man, The original star wars, Fantastic Voyage and shows lt\h\ke the Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc. heck, even the original Twilight Zone and Outer Limits are still better today than the remakes. They may not have been special effects eye candy but they were definitely something different from the usual westerns and cop shows.

It seems like almost everything done today is a remake or re-imagined or a "continuation" of something.

I agree, most of the shows coming out of the SciFi channel are dogs.

I'm in my early 50's so I can say that I've seen the old shows and the new ones, movies too. I have to say that I really miss the old shows and movies of the 60's and 70's. Movies like the Omega Man, The original star wars, Fantastic Voyage and shows lt\h\ke the Time Tunnel, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, etc. heck, even the original Twilight Zone and Outer Limits are still better today than the remakes. They may not have been special effects eye candy but they were definitely something different from the usual westerns and cop shows.

It seems like almost everything done today is a remake or re-imagined or a "continuation" of something.

I agree, most of the shows coming out of the SciFi channel are dogs.

When you have 500 channels instead of 3, you're definitely going to get repitition and a dimunition of originality.

When you have 500 channels instead of 3, you're definitely going to get repitition and a dimunition of originality.

Did you go to college or somethin'?

Given what Ron Moore & Co. did with BS:G I suppose anything is possible, but my initial response to the new Sarah Connor thing is an an inescapable feeling of soul-crushing boredom.

When you have 500 channels instead of 3, you're definitely going to get repitition and a dimunition of originality.

heck, even with 500 channels, Gilligan's Island was better than a lot of programming today. In fact, I'd watch Gilligan's Island before most of today's sitcoms just to fantasize about Ginger :p I'm just tired of the trend in today's programming where everyone tries to dare each other, challenge each other, or just to try to out-stare each other.

Granted, IMHO there have been some gems in the last few years such as Stargate SG-1, but these gems are RARE 80% of the SciFi channel's programming fails after 1 to 1.5 seasons.

I agree, most of the shows coming out of the SciFi channel are dogs.
The Sarah Connor Chronicles aren't a SciFi Channel show. It's a FOX series.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles aren't a SciFi Channel show. It's a FOX series.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was using SciFi channel as an example. On a broader point, most sci fi shows that have been coming out lately are dogs and don't last much past a couple of seasons except for the aforementioned gems.

heck, even with 500 channels, Gilligan's Island was better than a lot of programming today.

And, of course, worse than a lot of programming today. I'd say Sherwood Schwartz and even Irwin Allen were very lucky to be working in an era when television viewers had only three choices as to what they were going to watch at a certain time on any given night. I grew up in the Sixties and a lot of those shows just don't hold up for me as an adult viewer. "Nostalgia" is fine, but it doesn't lend itself to objectivity.

On a broader point, most sci fi shows that have been coming out lately are dogs and don't last much past a couple of seasons except for the aforementioned gems.

The Time Tunnel lasted for one season. Land of The Giants lasted two. I've tried watching both of these shows on The American Life Channel lately. They bark loudly!

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was using SciFi channel as an example. On a broader point, most sci fi shows that have been coming out lately are dogs and don't last much past a couple of seasons except for the aforementioned gems.

Actually, there have been some awsome genre shows that have started the past 10 or so years.
Unfortunately most were on FOX who never gave them a chance to find an audience and actually get going.
FOX has always had an itchy trigger finger with the axe.
So a lot of shows have only gotten a handful of eps aired. Never had a chance to blossom, or find enough viewers to gain the cult following to make them noteworthy.
One of the more recent examples of course was Firefly.

FOX has always had an itchy trigger finger with the axe.
Axes have triggers?

Modern day axes, do, yes. Especially those Canadian produced axes, which are much more efficient than the 'Murrican counterparts. :D

just crossing my fingers and hoping......but not too hard......

Actually, there have been some awsome genre shows that have started the past 10 or so years.
Unfortunately most were on FOX who never gave them a chance to find an audience and actually get going.
FOX has always had an itchy trigger finger with the axe.
So a lot of shows have only gotten a handful of eps aired. Never had a chance to blossom, or find enough viewers to gain the cult following to make them noteworthy.
One of the more recent examples of course was Firefly.

And Space Above and Beyond.

Maybe noone but me watched the first episode, but it shows promise! I hope this series works out!

I've watched the first 2 eps now.
So far, I am liking it.
Don't know how much staying power it will have, especially on FOX.
But for now I am enjoying the ride.

So busy tonight I forgot about it. I watched the first episode online last week and hope it improves and succeeds.

I don't know if my wife was impressed, but I'll keep watching as long as Summer Glau is on and it doesn't suck TOO bad.

I enjoyed the first two episodes, I like how they dealt with the show starting in '99. I am also intrigued by the Summer Glau terminator and the fact that another terminator could not identify her model. There was a shot in one of the previews of a CG robot that I figured would show in the second episode, but no such luck. I am curious to see how the producers add new twists without damaging too much of James Cameron's original vision. I also loved the name that Summer had in the first episode "Cameron". Hats off to you guys, and may Fox at least give you a chance. With all the other shows ending soon, I see a chance.

OT, I noticed on Fox last night that they are starting "Dexter" as a regular run show. I am sure it will be edited for regular broadcasts. But they have at least two seasons from HBO to play with, so that is how they are dealing with the strike. Take shows from cable networks, edit them a bit, and voila', you have a new show.

That strike better end soon. Some of the previews for the new game/reality shows coming out make baby Jesus cry.

Bop-a-nator runs like a girly-girl. Knees together, heels out, arms flailing. Great casting. Her 'tough look' looks like a teenager pout. If she broke a nail she'd start to cry.

She's a tiny tough white chick, pushing around big bruisers just like charlies angels.

Did you guys notice how that arm chair held back rounds from what ever the terminator was using in the first show when he got to the Connor home after the scholl incident?...hmmmmm :rolleyes:

I want to like it but it seems (at this point so far) that they are relying on just a tad too much action, going a 'bit' too fast and not enough 'decent amount' of story.

Question: Isn't the 'ID' amigo ( can not remember his name) the same hispanic charactor from the 2nd film...the dude who had the old Huey in the yard, guns under ground etc? His name may be the same but the actual charactor may be different? If it is the same dude.....what a stupid way to end a rather cool charactor...I did not see the importance of it in this case....DUH...so we get it already, not all can be trusted and it was the brain thinking not the tin man's heart...but there is plenty of time to get that across.....and yes...he did turn out to be a 'snitch' but WHY?...it seems that all powerful FBI dude is not having ANY problems finding them anyways.

Whats up with Sarah's looks....don'tya think that hair color and some other minor changes would help?...GHEESH! .....even petty thieves and what nots do that first thing!

AND!.....If Summer Glau and young Connor get any teen age, sweaty palm, touchy feely, musshy like connection going on....... I'm pulling the plug! I don't care how they rationalize it! NO FRIGGEN WAY!!

I did love how she handled that police officer....that was cool.

I'll give it one more shot.

C'mon Troy, you love!!! Well, I do......

Did you guys notice how that arm chair held back rounds from what ever the terminator was using in the first show when he got to the Connor home after the scholl incident?...hmmmmm :rolleyes:

Actually, they covered that. When the police were investigating, one mentioned a Kevlar lining in the chair. Makes sense that Sarah would take such precautions.

You okay, there, Flukie?
Decaf, man, decaf.

Yes, Enrique was the same character as in T2, and they assassinated him in more ways than one here. Not sure how he went from living in a desert junkyard on the lam to suburbia.

If they made a caffine free Dr. Pepper I would be all over that!

Thanks for that bit of chair info zysurge...that helps.

Good point on the 'desert to nice humble apartment'....I know, I know....fundage from being a snitch....years later?...who knows but WHY HIM! :mad:

They could have used hundreds of different methods and persons....plus that FBI guy has had no problems finding them so far!

Maybe the EMT/ex boyfriend will be a 'cool' guy and trustworthy?

pant pant pant pant .......

If they made a caffine free Dr. Pepper I would be all over that!They do make caffeine-free Dr Pepper. The diet version is easier to find, but it's out there.

Qapla'

SSB

Great! I gotta go to Utah to buy my Dr. Pepper?!?

I have never seen it around here.

Lost interest in the first half hour.

Might try to catch it again, but doubtful.

Quick side note: Was at my local comic shop flipping through the previews mag and came accross a small Hunter Killer tank for $20.00

When it came in, it scales out close to 1/72.

Not great by todays resin standards, but not a horrible addition to the shelf.

I wish someone did a nice kit of this.

That strike better end soon. Some of the previews for the new game/reality shows coming out make baby Jesus cry.

The strike isn't going to end soon, no new talks are schduled, and the last round of "talks" ended up being a shouting match. All the AMPTP wanted was to make demands on the WGA (i.e. "You WILL bow to our demands, forget the whole new media thing, and GET THE F&%$ BACK TO WORK!")

In actuality, the producers and studios are using the strike to enforce a clause in all entertainment personnell's contracts called "force majeure." All writers who had development deals and other agreements with the studios have been fired. Casts and crews of TV series may be coming soon, layoffs of various studio personnell are forthcoming. Businesses that rely on the film industry are taking the hit HARD! And the studio heads are just sitting back laughing. They WANT this strike to drag out. Even up here in The Valley, you can cut the acrimony with a butter knife!

Data's prediction of TV becoming obsolete may come true early!

That's just INSANE, even for the entertainment industry!

I read an interview with one of the show's producers. He said that how he really envisioned it was as alternate timeline to the events that take place after T2 but that it was easier to sell it to the execs by basically saying it just ignores T3.... That's how I viewed it. And I rather enjoyed by the way, though we'll have to see what happens. If they the producers) know where they're going with the show, it might be okay.

I agree. Me and my wife started watching it. We just sit and enjoy the show and that they have a descent budget so it's not too hard to watch effects wise.
Then I thought "also the new terminator chick is freakin HOT..although the big chracter mistake they made with her right off the bat (IMO) was that in the first episode that had her all smily, personable and flirtatious with all the normal nuances and flow a normal person has....and then as soon as they reveald her as terminator unit,suddenly that have her now never smiling, and always looking like more of a learning computer which is always in processing mode.
That part isnt bad,because a teminator is pretty much a perpetual processing combat computer, but that shouldnt have introduced her as a normal high school smiley hottie.
The comparative notes are jarring.

They do make caffeine-free Dr Pepper. The diet version is easier to find, but it's out there.

Qapla'

SSB

If anyone can find me a reliable supply of real cane-sugar Coca-Cola, I'd owe them a Wookie life debt. Every great once in a while I stumble across a 12-pack if the price of corn syrup is high. Open that first can and you get that "woah, this is different" feeling.

If anyone can find me a reliable supply of real cane-sugar Coca-ColaNot sure if it still holds, but last time I checked real cane-sugar Coca-Cola was available in Hawaii. Out there, it is/was cheaper to use the locally-grown sugar cane to sweeten the stuff than to import corn syrup.

There is cane sugar-sweetened Dr Pepper available somewhere in Texas, I believe -- you can even order it online. IIRC, you can find out where this is by reading Dr Pepper's Wikipedia entry.

Qapla'

SSB

If anyone can find me a reliable supply of real cane-sugar Coca-Cola, I'd owe them a Wookie life debt. Every great once in a while I stumble across a 12-pack if the price of corn syrup is high. Open that first can and you get that "woah, this is different" feeling.

Try going to Mexican food places (real ones, not of the Taco Bell or Jimboy's variety). Sometimes they sell Cokes bottled in Mexico and those are made with real sugar.

If anyone can find me a reliable supply of real cane-sugar Coca-Cola, I'd owe them a Wookie life debt. Every great once in a while I stumble across a 12-pack if the price of corn syrup is high. Open that first can and you get that "woah, this is different" feeling.
That's one thing I really noticed, food-wise, during my time in the States. Everything sweet tastes different from how it tastes over here, even the Cadbury's Dairy Milk that Hershey make under license (of course, we don't get Dr Pepper :( ).
Couldn't figure it out at first. Then the penny dropped - we don't use corn syrup...

As tangents go, that one's interesting. Never knew that.

Try going to Mexican food places (real ones, not of the Taco Bell or Jimboy's variety). Sometimes they sell Cokes bottled in Mexico and those are made with real sugar.

All of the real Mexican restaurants that I know of in Missouri have American sodas in fountains and only the imported Mexican-brand stuff in bottles. Good thought, though, I'll keep my eyes open.

Not sure if it still holds, but last time I checked real cane-sugar Coca-Cola was available in Hawaii. Out there, it is/was cheaper to use the locally-grown sugar cane to sweeten the stuff than to import corn syrup.

There is cane sugar-sweetened Dr Pepper available somewhere in Texas, I believe -- you can even order it online. IIRC, you can find out where this is by reading Dr Pepper's Wikipedia entry.

Qapla'

SSB

I've heard about the Dr. Pepper thing. They apparently were one of the earliest licensed producers and just kept making the original formula.

Well....I guess that says it.....the show is so good that the last page or so is on FOOD! :p

Hmmm....now I'm hungry.....thanks guys!

As tangents go, that one's interesting. Never knew that.
When we go OT, we go OT real good :D