It will be less than that for sure!

YES!!!!!

I would imagine pricing would be in line with something like the Seaview....

Close, but less yet! Honestly, with the size/cost of the original style box, I think these cost me more than the Seaview does! I just know that no one would pay that much for the kit if it was over the Seaview. But it will be less than the vinyl Japanese ones were for sure.

This is beginning to feel like The Price is Right.

I really used to like Let's Make a Deal....

Great news Frank. A kit that most everyone wants and a fair price too. I know I'm down for a few. This will be another big seller fer sure.


Here's a question: How about a GLOW version of Big Frank?

Bob

This is a great announcement to start the year with!! :thumbsup: Thanks Frank!

Just a quick and reasonably easy to answer question from someone who has never owned this kit. How tall is Frankie after assembly (ballpark/guesstimate is good enough)?

Steve, are you taking Pre-Orders yet? Please, please, please... :roll:

This is beginning to feel like The Price is Right.
LOWER, BOB, LOWER!!!

Man this is KILLER NEWS!!!!! At less than seaview prices I am good for a big box of them!!!!!! THANKS, FRANK!!!!!!

I have been on this board as a lurker or full member since 2003, and not being an Aurora figure guy, had not heard of the Big Frankie till then.

But I have heard enough since then to know that it is one of the most highly regarded/sought after kits in that realm.

I say 4 pages of excitement since the announcement this morning? Yer on a winner!! :thumbsup:

Great news! I'll buy two.

Will it include paint and brushes?
A Glow in the Dark variant?

A Frightening Lightning Gigantic Frankenstein box variant would look awesome.

I know the universal monsters have been done to death, but I think very high quality, (think Janus Quality)on affordable styrene kits would sell very well. All new karloff Frank, Bela Dracula, Chaney wolfman. Done as well as the Nosferatu these kits could sell very well I'd hope. I'd second the motion for London after midnight kit too!

If Revell still has the tooling ( I heard they did) I'd also like to see repops of the MOM Creature and Wolfman. Congrats on getting the Universal License, I'm sure whatever you do with it we will all be very happy campers. I'm so happy with the news so far, I'm nearly insane with joy. ( I was already a little kwazy)

Gigantic Frankenstein is about 18 3/4 - 19 inches tall.......
Due to the recent problems with lead and paint etc the kit will probably not contain paint and brush.

Dave

Great news! , this resurgence in plastic is a dream come true.
Rob
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Steve, are you taking Pre-Orders yet? Please, please, please... :roll:

As soon as pricing is established....

Frank-
Although I have little interest in this kit I will still buy one out of curiosity factor and help support your company...
It IS great news you have a Universal license!
What I would LOVE to see happen is a reissue of ALL of the MONSTER SCENES kits including VAMPIRELLA and all the lab sets, etc!!! These are the coolest monster stuff EVER done IMO...I think they would find an all new audience and be good sellers- boxes should be exactly the same, too.
Have you considered this?????
Gary

Gigantic Frankenstein is about 18 3/4 - 19 inches tall.......
Due to the recent problems with lead and paint etc the kit will probably not contain paint and brush.

Dave

Dave, Dave, Dave....

I know you always loved threads like this about...

BIG PHRANKIE!!!

BIG PHRANKIE!!!

BIG PHRANKIE!!!

;)


I was wondering how long it would be before you joined in!

Though I never owned a Gigantic Frankenstein, I've been interested in getting this kit, as I have with all Aurora figures.

The last one I saw, at a toy show in October, was running $700; by comparison if Moebius prices the reissue at $60, it'll still be a bargain.

So, put me down for one, too.

Gigantic Frankenstein is about 18 3/4 - 19 inches tall.......
Due to the recent problems with lead and paint etc the kit will probably not contain paint and brush.

Dave

Ditto that! Between the licensors at Universal, and my insurance company, I'd have more testing and paperwork, no less a bigger insurance check, than I'd know what to do with.

Frank-
Although I have little interest in this kit I will still buy one out of curiosity factor and help support your company...
It IS great news you have a Universal license!
What I would LOVE to see happen is a reissue of ALL of the MONSTER SCENES kits including VAMPIRELLA and all the lab sets, etc!!! These are the coolest monster stuff EVER done IMO...I think they would find an all new audience and be good sellers- boxes should be exactly the same, too.
Have you considered this?????
Gary

Yes, I have spoken with the trademark owner on MS, but we have a slight holdup. With Vampi, I have been told in no uncertain terms that the old Aurora piece would never receive licensing. That was direct from Harris Comics. We put the Giant Insect on display at Chicago, and received mixed interest. But I know it will happen, just not sure of the timeline. There is hope for a MS reappearance, but I just can't be specific on anything at this time.

Frank-
Hopeful news- you have to admit MS are some of the nicest and buildable kits that lend themselves to endless dioramas! Obviously you are looking into it since you contacted Harris about Vampi- can you be more specific WHY they won't allow it?
In any case please don't let Vampi be the hold up on producing MS again- with Frankenstein, Dr Deadly and the Victim you have a solid core of figures to START with- think of all of the 1/13 scale figures that are new tools you can proceed with!
PLEASE pursue it- and the price points would be low enough to get alot sold and be able to expand upon....!
Gary :hat:

BIG FAITH DOMERGUE!

BIG FAITH DOMERGUE!

BIG FAITH DOMERGUE!

BIG FAITH DOMERGUE!

BIG FAITH DOMERGUE!

Or should I be addressing this one to Lunatic Fringe - ?

Mark McG.


Dang, Mark! I like the way you think! :devil:

SInce the Victim was renamed Dr. Deadly's Daughter, maybe Vampirella could be renamed Bambirella!

Yes, I have spoken with the trademark owner on MS, but we have a slight holdup. With Vampi, I have been told in no uncertain terms that the old Aurora piece would never receive licensing. That was direct from Harris Comics. We put the Giant Insect on display at Chicago, and received mixed interest. But I know it will happen, just not sure of the timeline. There is hope for a MS reappearance, but I just can't be specific on anything at this time.

WOW! This just keeps getting better and better!

Thanks FRANK! Whatever you put out that is monster related...I am so there!!!

MMM

im happy about the big frankly, but even happier that new (even if its a re-pop) licensed figure models are hitting the market!
i hope this is the start of a new golden age!
frank, if harris wont go for the MS vampirella, how about a new sculpt? (maybe a new sculpt in the MS scale.) i mean, shes one of the most popular subjects in the GK hobby, so i imagine a licensed styrene one would do well

SInce the Victim was renamed Dr. Deadly's Daughter, maybe Vampirella could be renamed Bambirella!
Hmmm, if the Hunchback can be renamed "The Bellringer" then Vampirella could be called "The Bloodsucker." :)

...Great news, thanks Frank! You really listen and care for your customers. There may not be a big financial incentive to re-pop this, but you're doing it anyway! I was a bit too young when this first came out. I'm from the "Square Box Aurora" era. Anyway, I will get one as a novelty and to support your efforts.

This was never a kit I had high on my list but I can say having one wouldn't ruin my day either.....so count me in for one at least.

This was never a kit I had high on my list but I can say having one wouldn't ruin my day either.....so count me in for one at least.

I have to admit that the Big Franky does not get me excited as much as the other kits do. But, since alot of people have been waiting for it to come out in styrene since the Polar Lights product announcement days, I'm happy it will be released. I'll certainly try to purchase at least one of them as well.

I purchased a cold cast porcelain Big Franky about 8 years ago. It's big and heavy. I can't exactly recall which company made them anymore. Was it Monster's in Moton or...? But, I like the idea of styrene Big Franky better because it's not as heavy and easier to fix than a porcelain version. The porcelain ones never came with a Big Franky reproduction box either.

I know the universal monsters have been done to death, but I think very high quality, (think Janus Quality) on affordable styrene kits would sell very well. All new karloff Frank, Bela Dracula, Chaney wolfman.As I understand it, licensing from Universal and licensing from the Karloff, Lugosi, and Chaney estates are two separate issues; i.e., Universal can legally authorize use of the characters, but not the likenesses of the actors who played those characters. Sara Karloff and Bela Lugosi Jr. are very protective of their fathers' legacies (I believe Chaney's heirs are the same way), so a separate legal agreement would have to be made with them before kits could be legally produced with their likenesses. I'm sure someone with more knowledge of such matters can say whether or not this is correct.

Hmmm, if the Hunchback can be renamed "The Bellringer" then Vampirella could be called "The Bloodsucker." :)This is a different licensing issue. Polar Lights changed the name to avoid legal issues with Disney, who had legal rights to the name and their likeness of the character, which looked nothing like the kit. Changing the name of the Vampirella kit wouldn't solve anything because Harris Comics owns the name and the likeness, so you'd have to change the kit as well and then it wouldn't be Vampirella. I've simplified my explanation but, again, I'm sure someone can say whether it's right or wrong.

Zomb', old kid,

Re: the actors estates' licensing rights - you pretty much nailed it. There might be an argument over how much Gigantic Frankenstein resembles Boris Karloff. On the other hand, permission notice from his daughter was evident with the 1999 long box reissue of Frankenstein, and not everyone agrees on how accurate that kit's likeness was to Karloff. I'm sure we can trust Frank to iron that one out.

I think that you also described the situation with Vampirella correctly as well. If Moebius simply cannot get Harris Comics to come to terms, then I think this would be a great place to start producing original characters (although Vampira or Elvira might not object to 1/13 scale styrene stardom). Or what about a Monster Scenes Faith Domergue?

I may be single minded, but I'm easy...:dude:

Mark McG.

I believe that the Universal Movie Monster licenses are licenses for the use of the Classic Monster characters.
My understanding is that there is no longer any right of approval involving the estates of the actors who portrayed the characters. I believe that this is the result of an agreement reached between the studio and the estates of the actors.

Dave
Dave

WOW....First big Frankie news and now Monster Scenes are being kicked around!!! yeah!!!

I dunno about this. I think instead there should be maybe another U.S.S. Enterprise or X-Wing fighter kit released first, don't you?



[ probably more amusing if heard in person, over beer ]

...My understanding is that there is no longer any right of approval involving the estates of the actors who portrayed the characters...So what you're saying is, there should be no impediments to the Faith Domergue model?:tongue:

Mark McG.

I believe that the Universal Movie Monster licenses are licenses for the use of the Classic Monster characters.
My understanding is that there is no longer any right of approval involving the estates of the actors who portrayed the characters. I believe that this is the result of an agreement reached between the studio and the estates of the actors.

Dave
Dave

Man! I wonder how much that "agreement" cost Universal?

Man! I wonder how much that "agreement" cost Universal?

I'm sure the "savings' will be passed on to us, the consumers!

I dunno about this. I think instead there should be maybe another U.S.S. Enterprise or X-Wing fighter kit released first, don't you?



[ probably more amusing if heard in person, over beer ]

See folks...thats why we own guns :p Mr. Doll.....you have a three second head start....1......2......click!

I dunno about this. I think instead there should be maybe another U.S.S. Enterprise or X-Wing fighter kit released first, don't you?



[ probably more amusing if heard in person, over beer ]

I do not want to see a request for a Big Spocky. Or a Big Darthy neither! ;)

Zomb', old kid,

Re: the actors estates' licensing rights - you pretty much nailed it. There might be an argument over how much Gigantic Frankenstein resembles Boris Karloff. On the other hand, permission notice from his daughter was evident with the 1999 long box reissue of Frankenstein, and not everyone agrees on how accurate that kit's likeness was to Karloff. I'm sure we can trust Frank to iron that one out.
I don't have the box in front of me, but seems to me I recall the likeness acknowledgment for that kit going to Chaney Enterprises. I think at the time, Ms. Karloff was causing Universal a little bit of grief over this issue in general, and in response they were doing whatever they could to avoid including the Karloff estate in licensing deals. I actually have a Mummy t-shirt that I bought at the Universal theme park in L.A. around this time, featuring the well-recognized Mummy logo from the original Karloff film... and a rendering of Chaney Jr. as Kharis for the illustration.

I believe that the Universal Movie Monster licenses are licenses for the use of the Classic Monster characters.
My understanding is that there is no longer any right of approval involving the estates of the actors who portrayed the characters. I believe that this is the result of an agreement reached between the studio and the estates of the actors.

Dave
Dave
thats basically it. from what i heard, if youre shopping for a frankenstein license you can either purchase the "generic" frankenstein, or for a higher price the "karloff" frankenstein (or chaney or lugosi). it all depends on how much you want your product to resemble a particular incarnation of the character. (years ago, i sculpted a franky product for a certain company, and was under strict orders to not make it resemble any of those 3 actors, but to just follow the generic face in the style guide.) this is all a result of bela lugosi jr's battles with universal over the years (iirc he also represents the karloff and chaney estates).
the original frankenstein kit is definatly supposed to be boris in the "bride of frankenstein" version of the makeup. considering what the generic franky looked like at the time i did my piece (kind of a cross between karloff and strange), i think moebius is in the clear, and wont have to opt for the more expensive karloff version.

If you go to the Karloff website, there is a page describing who controls what.

http://www.karloff.com/LicenseSettlement.html

Essentially, Sara Karloff retains the rights to Boris Karloff's likeness, but allows Universal to handle licensing regarding the Frankenstein Monster and Mummy.

I do not believe the Lugosi or Chaney estates have this same agreement.

Steve

If Moebius made different versions of Gigantic Frankenstein, I'd buy them.

I suggested a variant Frightening Lightning blurb on the same box and I'd also like to see a huge Glow square box for a third version too.

Will the instructions be in color?
A durable rubber band for the arms?

given the choice between a plain giant franky and a glow giant franky, i'll take the glow anyday.

A glow variant? What's not to like? I'd get both.

...seems to me I recall the likeness acknowledgment for that kit going to Chaney Enterprises. Maybe, but I do recall seeing the Karloff estate's permission notice on the Frankenstein intsructions. As for The Mummy, I'm sure that Chaney Enterpises made the case that the close right eye and crippled right arm identified the Aurora model as representative as the monster portrayed by Lon Chaney, Jr.

I think that Gigantic Frankenstein generally resembled Karloff, but whether the likeness was close enough to warrant a claim to proprietary rights by his estate is a bone for Moebius' and Ms. Karloff's legal beagles to fight over.

Mark McG.

I think that Gigantic Frankenstein generally resembled Karloff,
Mark McG.

I thought the box art was based on Glenn Strange.

The box art is Strange, but the figure is clearly inspired by Karloff