I don't normally plug my own site over here, but some of you may be interested in this

Moebius Models Sneak Peak by David Merriman (http://www.culttvman2.com/dnn/Default.aspx?tabid=835)

Read at your own risk... don't say I didn't warn you.

Looks good to me, Thanks Steve, that was a good review, and it seems he only had good things to say..Looks like a winner.

The ever critical, unsolicited advice giving, unashamed name-dropping, booger-pickers at SM

heh


...the other boards handled the news? Well, I'll put it this way: stupid, pointless, and vacant. Typical for a bunch of get-a-lifes who can't seam to jerk themselves away from the keyboard.

hey! I resemble that remark!

This is the most poignant picture from the review.

http://www.culttvman2.com/dnn/Portals/0/Gallery/David%20Merriman/Moebius%20Seaview/dmerimanmoebsea09.jpg
(sorry about the ol' bandwidth there Steve...)

I'm told that David Metzner insisted on providing a channel within the huge vertical stabilizers at the stern. through these conduits will pass the wiring for those wishing to equip their model with practical stern lights.

Stand up and take a bow Dave -er-stern?

Kudo's to Mr. Merriman for staying in character.

that's some sub!

Jackpot!You seem to show two parts of the window frame.Are they identical,or have slight differences.

I guess one has a raised frame around the windows. Btw, I think we handled the news pretty well on this board. Not to much nit picking or bellyaching here.

In pictures 3, 8 and 9 there two sets of front view ports. Why two? To me they both look the same. :confused:

One of the windows has a raised frame. The studio models differed slightly, so you get to choose the windows you prefer.

Steve

There also appears to be a choice of two raised-deck sections containing the missile hatches. Do they have different numbers of missile tubes?

I was, in fact, picking boogers as I read the article.

There also appears to be a choice of two raised-deck sections containing the missile hatches. Do they have different numbers of missile tubes?

Yes....

I was, in fact, picking boogers as I read the article.

OH THANK GOD! I was afraid I was the only one!

A great review by Mr. Merriman with lots of nice shots of the kit.

Thanks Dave and Steve for bringing us this sneak peek.

Looooking Gooood!!

With such a positive and glowing review from a modeling master like Mr. Merriman (who is himself a recognized authority on the Seaview and even restored the original 17-foot studio model) about a plastic hobby kit, what better endorsement does one need?

one with booger eating. oh wait. nevermind. :thumbsup:

He's sort of the Dr. Zachary Smith of the modeling world.

Yes I think I can speak for a lot of people when I say....


SHAAAAAAA-WING ! ! ! ! !

As usual, Merry-man just had to be a jerk and take yet another cheap shot, didn't he? I stopped reading after his hands-down-the-front-of-his-pants comment about SM.

I have to say that I'm disappointed but not surprised that it was allowed to stand within the "article"....

Again, This model represents the 17'3" Seaview. Although it's really way cool to include the Two different viewports, the ACCURATE WAY TO GO IS THE VIEWPORTS WITHOUT THE RAISED TRIM AROUND THE WINDOWS. The part with ther raised trim around the windows represents the 8' Seaview.Yes there are differences.IMHO, It would be like putting the pilot"Large bridge" On the production TOS Enterprise.

Just repeating this for the benifit of guys who haven't read it before. Of course if you don't care, It really dosen't matter. Looks beautifull!


High Regards,
Beatlepaul

Excellent review from Mr. Merriman. Thanks to Steve for hosting it. This jerk, is looking forward to messing up.......building the Seaview.

The best part is the the kit was designed with us modelers in mind who want to light up this bad boy! Engraved trenches in the fins for wiring? Yahoo!!

I for one can't wait to assemble the parts.

Jeff, g'head and read the article. There IS pertinant information in between the wanking.

Shouldn't this thread have "spoilers" in the title?
But seriously, I don't need a "Seaview expert" to tell me this is going to be a great kit.
Did anyone? Really?
I wonder if they have cards with "Seaview expert" embossed on them? Nerds......

It's a good thing that it is a two piece hull.Less chance of distortion when pulling the kit from the molds,I assume.But most of all,since nowadays it doesn't take much to rate a parcel as being oversized,this reduced lenght is a welcomed decision.How long will be the kit box housing the Seaview kit anyways.

Technically it's a FOUR-piece hull, split into quadrants. Or, since the bottom nose section with the Flying Sub bay is molded separately, five pieces. And the upper halves of the Caddy fins are molded along with a bit of the aft hull, so it's really six pieces. Oh, wait, there's the separate front window surround. . .

As usual, Merry-man just had to be a jerk and take yet another cheap shot, didn't he? I stopped reading after his hands-down-the-front-of-his-pants comment about SM.

I have to say that I'm disappointed but not surprised that it was allowed to stand within the "article"....

We all know his antics, Griff. Did it anger me, no. Personally, I feel sorry for him; anyone that holds a grudge this long has "anger issues" and Steve for including it (after all it's his right to edit posts on his site); that was completely unprofessional. The comment was unnecessary and meant to be inflammatory. If you read the entire article minus his childish diatribe, it took nothing away from the content.

Then again, why would they give a man with a complete distaste for kit builders the task of reviewing a model kit, his expert status aside?

I'm sure Mr. M made it clear to Cult that any article he provides cannot be edited. (right Steve :wave: ).

Then again, why would they give a man with a complete distaste for kit builders the task of reviewing a model kit, his expert status aside?

Because he has the card AND it's embossed.

What excites me the most is that we're in a time when some truly landmark s-f kits are being produced. Despite faults, I thought the Polar Lights NX-01 and refit E were historic because it has been rare for any company to try and approach the level of accuracy to a filming model (physical or digital). I thought the interior of their C-57-D was remarkable. The FineMolds Falcon is another one--tooled to match a specific miniature to an unprecedented degree.

Now we have Moebius doing what is really the ultimate plastic Seaview kit. Sure, there will be some fun aftermarket stuff to make it more extreme, but it's certainly a high water mark (pun intended).

It is fun to see s-f done right! While I could do without his usual spleen-venting, it was great to see Dave Merriman, who knows the big Seaview miniature so intimately, give the kit his seal of approval.

I thought my Oz Shop Seaview resin kit from Japan was pretty cool...but this one has it beat!

Lee

I think that there may be a bit of oversensitivity when it comes to Mr. Merriman's comments. In my exchanges with him, I have always found him to be extremely courteous and gracious. He also has a very wry sense of humor (as do I) and often teases people - not in a mean-spirited way, but it could be taken that way if you do not know where he is coming from.

I like to think of him as the "General Patton" of the modeling world. I believe his remarks are intended to "slap" who he regards as the "mere kit assemblers" into realizing that there is a lot more gratification to be gained by actually 'making' models instead of just 'building' them. It is teasing. Just as his remarks about Gary Kerr are teasing and are meant to be humorous. If the comments were meant to be mean-spirited, he wouldn't have wasted the space with his compliments and praises of Gary's professionalism and talent, first.

When I started out in visual effects work many moons (decades) ago, I apprenticed to a mentor who constantly teased me, called me "junior", and often 'picked' at me. To an outside observer, it probably would have come across as 'mean-spirited', but in truth, it was the exact opposite - all humor and banter. I knew that. There was never any doubt. I learned a tremendous amount from him, and his contemporaries, of which there are but a few left today (he passed away in 1998). He is still missed to this day.

I think that it would be beneficial to those who are easily offended to develop and thicker skin and let these supposed insults roll off them like water off a duck's back.

"supposed"? Please tell me how calling someone a "booger-picker" isn't meant as an insult? Please explain to me how being called "stupid, pointless, and vacant" isn't an insult...?

And if you want to talk about "unsolicited advice giving", ask Merriman about the two unsolicited emails he sent me several years back in which he "dry wittedly" tries to cajole me.

No, this guy is just full of... himself. That's all there is to it. There's no reason for him to "be witty" as he is, nor is there any reason for it to stand unedited unless the intent all around was to take a jab at others in the sci-fi modeling community. That just furthers any "clique driven" rifts out there between different forums.

edit: to trek ace

Sure thing you booger picking name dropper. :drunk: aaak I can't even say that with a sense of humor! I'd have to be some kind of sociopath.

(edit: typing that made me feel badly, please don't take offense; I was trying to make a point by example.)


I have no doubt, in person, Mr. M is a charming gentleman with a wry sense of humor.

His endorsement of a model kit is welcome.

I see that Dave still knows how to push the buttons. Let's face it, he owns a few of you and as long as you let him he will continue to own you. Dave is a Primadonna, but guess what, he admits it. I've met Dave and he's 100% genuine and a nice guy. Like him or not.

I thought this was a thread about the Seaview. Steve warned everyone, about David's style of writing, so you didn't need to read it. Take the review as it is, and overlook the the pick at you remarks.

I thought this was a thread about the Seaview. Steve warned everyone, about David's style of writing, so you didn't need to read it. Take the review as it is, and overlook the the pick at you remarks.

Correct.

I thought this was a thread about the Seaview.
And the text of said article about the Seaview isn't relevant...?

I see that Dave still knows how to push the buttons. Let's face it, he owns a few of you and as long as you let him he will continue to own you. Dave is a Primadonna, but guess what, he admits it. I've met Dave and he's 100% genuine and a nice guy. Like him or not.

no.. actually he owns Steve Iverson if Steve has to publish everything Mr. M says (with or without a disclaimer) or risk losing him as a contributor.

slight ot: What's the best method for getting boogers off of a monitor screen, wood paneling, and a dog? Random flicking can be hazardous.

well the dog should be self cleaning. You might let him have a swipe at the PC too.

Back of his head.

Anyone got a guesstimate on the inner diameter of the engine thrust tubes?This thing just screams for R/C conversion.

Uh, that's what "Seaview expert" Dave Merriman is doing. Got a couple of grand laying around? Those cards aren't cheap.

(Now has to go back and read the article):rolleyes:

I just want to know what the "fittings" includes--I would like to see rudder linkages, and etched brass plates that have the thinner, slanted superstructure vents that were a feature of the 17 footer--the Moebius model does incorporate features of both 17 foot and 8-foot models and I am thrilled that the overall look approximates the 17-footer. I think the only way to get anything like that was the $900 DeBoers Hulls kit before this.

I agree with an earlier poster too that this release is truly historic, which the Enterprise refit and Millennium Falcon were as well. I really thought the Refit was the end of the line as far as injection molded sci fi kits apart from the Fine Molds Star Wars kits once RC2 bought Polar Lights. What Frank is doing is just amazing--it's even more incredible than Polar Lights in a way because PL was still part of a larger corporate structure with different mass market audiences to please. Moebius is marketing specifically to us and that's ALL it's doing--and after the Seaview we get the LIS Chariot and Space Pods, arguably two additional holy grails in large scale, very detailed form. Let's face it, we all got fascinated with these subjects as kids and dreamed of having something like what we're about to get, and to think that 40 years later those wishes would come true this spectacularly is just staggering. Add to that the fact that presales indicate that these kits will actually do well and keep Moebius going to develop god only knows what...incredible!

All in all,it will be a fne kit that will make us modelers deliriously happy.No negative comments can change what we have seen up to date.Of course when a big picture of this fine kit in it's final assembled stage will be posted,soon I hope,this will quiet down any skeptics for sure.

Anyone else notice the plastic in the photos looks like that real thin, semi-translucent stuff Revell AG was using for awhile? Yeah, I know it's a test shot so I'm just hoping the production version will be the heavier, sturdier styrene PL was using towards the end. Nobody likes a limp torepedo...

You guys! Geeez, Grow up!

You read the phrase "SPOILERS" and choose either do or don't read.
I usually do read spoilers.

Well the same goes for Dave's reviews.
If you DON'T LIKE HIS STYLE...DON'T READ IT!
Just look at the pictures.

Just consider the source.

A year ago would ANY of you believe this is happening? A SEAVIEW kit of this epic detail and size from a small independent manufacturer like Frank??? I would have laughed and said "yeah tight!". Amazing. Truly unprecented in any stretch of the imagination.
If we can get the Chariot and Space Pod I would say we have DECADES of wishes come through in a few months. Moebius might be WAY ahead of what Polar Lights could have done in so little time. Frank is catering directly to the REQUESTS and WISHES of the hard core SF modeler- we are getting what we wanted better and faster than a large company could even dream of..NO market research and trial tests and projected sales that run through board room after board room. Product is getting slid through FAST and direct!
Boy we do not even begin to realize how lucky we are...! :hat: Gary

Anyone else notice the plastic in the photos looks like that real thin, semi-translucent stuff Revell AG was using for awhile? Yeah, I know it's a test shot so I'm just hoping the production version will be the heavier, sturdier styrene PL was using towards the end. Nobody likes a limp torepedo...With the injection-molding process, the thickness of the material is pretty much set in stone once the tooling is done. Dave Merriman mentioned in his article that the styrene for the major hull pieces is about 3/32" thick. Sounds pretty sturdy to me.

And if you're having trouble with your "torpedo," well, you know there are pills for that. . . :tongue:

Article?

You guys! Geeez, Grow up!

You read the phrase "SPOILERS" and choose either do or don't read.
I usually do read spoilers.

Well the same goes for Dave's articles.
If you DON'T LIKE HIS STYLE...DON'T READ IT!
Just look at the pictures.

Just consider the source.

I came to this party late.
Where does one purchase this magnificent kit, and
how much will it be?