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ClubTepes
12-31-2007, 05:19 PM
^Well, ya can paint the sub any color you want, but there's nothing you can DO about the size of the kit. Unless you're trying to talk Moebius into scrapping everything they've done up to this point, eating the hundreds of thousands of dollars spent, and starting over.

Well, If I hit the lottery between now and when it hits the shelves...I may pay them a mill or two not to release it and redo it in 1/144 just to P.O. everybody.:)

Obviously I can't talk them into that. Its simply frustrating that still today S.F. and Fantasy doesn't get equal consideration that the other subjects do.

Don't get me wrong, SF has come a LONG way lately and we have Dave to thank a lot for that. The planned 1/350 series was like a dream come true. Something in fact, I had wanted (a 1/350 TOS E) at least 10 years prior to that.
I'm going paraphrase Dave here in that someplace he said he wanted to "see how big the fictional Starship Enterprise was next to the Tamiya Aircraft carrier Enterprise". That was the kind of thinking in model production I had been waiting for.

If this had been a B-52, the conversation would have been........Boys, were going to do a B-52, what scale should we do it in 1/32, 1/48, 1/72, 1/144 etc. (paraphrasing here of course, budgets and other things obviously come into the mix). People used to complain about the scales of Trek kits - so why is it not ok to be frustrated here?

Its too late for this kit, but hopefully, the next whatever kit (from whomever) won't be 1/65.3 scale just to get it into a box.

So scale is my thing, so what. John can't accept anyone redoing Trek effects and others have their little issues as well. Lets face it we're all anal neurotic people, otherwise we wouldn't be in this hobby, or at the very least, we'd be painting our kits with only a brush and testors square bottles.

Finally, the title of this thread was not 'Seaview - What color'. So I kind of take offence to the 'distracting' from the color conversation.

ClubTepes
12-31-2007, 05:27 PM
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/P1010012.JPG
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/P1010010.JPG
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/P1010001.JPG

Here you go the build up of the first test shot......not award winning photography, but you can get an idea of how the finished model will look.

Happy New Year

Dave

Dave,
All other issues aside, its a very, very nice kit.

Thank you for liking 'big' kits and thank you (again) for the big PL Refit.

Happy New Year.

fluke
12-31-2007, 05:51 PM
I second that!

NICE PICS!!! :)
Dave....I don't care what they say about you down at my local Police station, the National Women's knitting Circle and the Rights of small Animals Association.....your ok! :p

CaptFrank
12-31-2007, 06:27 PM
Those photographs illustrate what a beautiful kit this will be.
Looking at the quality really makes me want one!

kit-junkie
12-31-2007, 06:54 PM
But it's such a big kit. Which leads me to this question: Where do you keep all of your kits when they're done? *runs off to start a new thread*

F91
12-31-2007, 06:55 PM
Hey Troy- Does Galaxy take pre orders? Remember, they had the Voyager before any one else it seemed. I'd love to have mine done before a lot of folks get theirs!:devil:



I second that!

NICE PICS!!! :)
Dave....I don't care what they say about you down at my local Police station, the National Women's knitting Circle and the Rights of small Animals Association.....your ok! :p

spindrift
12-31-2007, 07:01 PM
Good gosh, Dave....WOW! The finished kit looks spectacular- can you comment on ease of assemb;y??
PLEASE someone tell me when we can expect this kit..has the boat from China departed yet??
This feels like the days back when we were demanding a GPS location of the boat with the PL Refits on it...remember?
Gary

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hat:

Steve CultTVman Iverson
12-31-2007, 07:17 PM
Looks great Dave! Another winner.

robiwon
12-31-2007, 07:20 PM
Oh crap, oh crap......where am I going to put the batteries, how am I going to mount the switch, how many LEDs am I gonna need.......(pulls out pencil and starts scribiling).....the madness...can't wait!

fluke
12-31-2007, 07:54 PM
Rich....Pre-orders?....probably not....we got the Nossy kit so fast, I bet Rick will make sure Galaxy gets them as quickly as possible...so there would be no difference from pre-order to regular stock.

One thing is for sure....this one's going to be fun! :)

user1127
12-31-2007, 09:18 PM
Here is a good article by Dave Merriman that shows the colors he did.

http://culttvman.com/david_merriman_s_57__seaview_p18.html

That was a good article (I miss my old R/C Seaview :cry:

jbond
12-31-2007, 10:06 PM
If you want a Seaview in 1/144 scale just track down the Monsters in Motion or Oz Shop Seaview.

I have to think Frank wanted to do the biggest Seaview possible and I couldn't be happier. The previously available kits have been 13", 24" and 32" so why not blow those away? And in fact I've no doubt people would be complaining about how anticlimactic it was to get a Seaview under 32" after all this time...

Admiral Nelson
12-31-2007, 10:24 PM
I for one am happy. I love the scale and can't wait for it's release.

voyagefan**
12-31-2007, 10:27 PM
The missle hatch details are cemented on backwards. The escape hatch should be on the very back of the decking.

Dave Metzner
12-31-2007, 10:48 PM
Aw crap! I'll play hell fixing that screw-up!

xsavoie
12-31-2007, 11:30 PM
Was the test shot of the Seaview judged satisfactory by the people in charge of quality control at Moebius.If so,will the full production start right away,and does that mean that these kits will be cleared to reach the North American continent by the end of February 2008 at the latest,or possibly before the end of that month.I assume that the box art and instruction sheets are already printed and awaiting the Seaview kit.And finally,how soon after receiving the Seaview kits in North America will they be distributed at the various hobby stores.

Steve CultTVman Iverson
12-31-2007, 11:45 PM
Maybe.

Dave Metzner
12-31-2007, 11:49 PM
It's in process of being fixed! There was much foul language involved! Wrong deck section is gone - didn't come off in one piece unfortunately!
I did happen to have another deck part - it's now in place and puttied up!
Tomorrow morning I'll wet sand the repaired areas repalce a few deck edge details that got broken and do some re-painting!
Probably post a pic or two after the correction!


Dave

Steve CultTVman Iverson
12-31-2007, 11:52 PM
Go easy on the Tanex Dave!

Dave Metzner
12-31-2007, 11:55 PM
I'm Waiting for a second test shot, we needed to have a few minor details fixed.
Once that gets here and I can check it out I hope we can approve the tooling for production.
We are making every efforet ot get the kit produced and shipped as quickly as we can.

Dave

Steve244
01-01-2008, 12:40 AM
Dave does sound a bit like an expectant father, don't he?

WarpCore Breach
01-01-2008, 01:36 AM
It sounds like having the Seaview ready and in the stores does sound just a wee bit optimistic, doesn't it?

In the meantime, Dave will have a houseful of test shot Seaviews! LOL!!

Seaview
01-01-2008, 01:50 AM
This is all truly magnificent! I hope that one of these days there'll be a nice companion piece to this sub; namely the 8-window & top sonar domed movie version. :thumbsup:

FoxTrot
01-01-2008, 06:02 AM
Thank you for these pictures, it is one awesome kit, and eventhough I will always favour the 8-window movie sub, the nose lines on this kit are still beautifully portrayed. I will put 2 on my list, Fox!

Admiral Nelson
01-01-2008, 09:27 AM
It's in process of being fixed! There was much foul language involved! Wrong deck section is gone - didn't come off in one piece unfortunately!
I did happen to have another deck part - it's now in place and puttied up!
Tomorrow morning I'll wet sand the repaired areas repalce a few deck edge details that got broken and do some re-painting!
Probably post a pic or two after the correction!


Dave

What color did you use?

John P
01-01-2008, 10:43 AM
If you want a Seaview in 1/144 scale just track down the Monsters in Motion or Oz Shop Seaview.

I don't know how big the Oz Shop kit is, but the MiM, at 24", is 1/200 scale given a 400-foot sub.

FoxTrot
01-01-2008, 11:59 AM
What color did you use?
Admiral, I am also intrigued about the colour, it's really nice and close to my memories of decades ago. It looks like a very light ghost grey/taupe ?

Seaview
01-01-2008, 12:08 PM
I don't know how big the Oz Shop kit is, but the MiM, at 24", is 1/200 scale given a 400-foot sub.


Esteemed fellow board member FalconDesigns had a MiM 24" kit for sale not too long ago, you may want to contact him and see if his is still available (and it IS a sweet kit, too).

Admiral Nelson
01-01-2008, 01:44 PM
Admiral, I am also intrigued about the colour, it's really nice and close to my memories of decades ago. It looks like a very light ghost grey/taupe ?

Seems that it may remain a mystery as I can't get an answer. My wife says Taupe and I posted that a while back. Maybe if I included a "Aurora is coming back" with my question, it would be noticed. That seems to draw out the folks.

Dave Metzner
01-01-2008, 02:17 PM
The paint used on the Seaview test shot is General Purpose Gray Primer - It comes in a Rattle Can with the Brite Touch brand name on it.
I spray it into a bottle and airbrush it!
The model is gray, the tungsten light used to photograph the model is responsible for the brownish tint seen in the pics.

Dave Hussey
01-01-2008, 02:27 PM
On the blue vs grey thing, I'll just add that about ten years ago we painted a room in our house a grey that actually looked blue in the right light.

The color was Maltese Grey by a company called Para.

For what its worth!

Huzz

John P
01-01-2008, 02:33 PM
So folks who think it was brownish taupish color could paint it plain ol' gray and make sure they always have a tungsten movie light pointed at it. :D

voyagefan**
01-01-2008, 03:53 PM
For Those still unsure about the lower hull color.
It is not standard white.This is the original Seaview 8.5 bottom nose section.
See the color of the primer coming through in cracks.The primer is white. Alan

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/Alanny/offwhite.jpg

frankenstyrene
01-01-2008, 04:21 PM
"Aurora is coming back"

WOO-HOO!

WHEN!?!

/sorry

falcondesigns
01-01-2008, 04:30 PM
The Oz kit is 1/400 scale and is 22 and 1/2" long.One thing,its the only model I have ever seen of the Seaview that has all the hull plate lines.Alexander

Admiral Nelson
01-01-2008, 05:49 PM
The paint used on the Seaview test shot is General Purpose Gray Primer - It comes in a Rattle Can with the Brite Touch brand name on it.
I spray it into a bottle and airbrush it!
The model is gray, the tungsten light used to photograph the model is responsible for the brownish tint seen in the pics.

Thanks. Looks great.

Carson Dyle
01-01-2008, 07:07 PM
A couple of folks had pm’d me re: the paint scheme of my Lubliner Seaview: I used Tamiya Haze Grey (TS-32) for the primary hull tone, and Tamiya Light Grey (AS-2) for the underside (you can check out the results on Pg. 2 of My Gallery). Both shades were applied via rattle-can and polished out with Micro-mesh abrasives to achieve a satin finish.

The cool thing about Haze Grey is that it has a soft blue-green tint, and I find this lends the model a subtle “organic” quality. Combined with the Tamiya Light Grey it really makes the subject come alive in person (alas, the full tonal range was hard to capture on my digi-cam).

jbond
01-01-2008, 07:34 PM
So the Oz Shop kit is a model of a 700+ foot long Seaview?

FoxTrot
01-01-2008, 08:05 PM
The paint used on the Seaview test shot is General Purpose Gray Primer - It comes in a Rattle Can with the Brite Touch brand name on it.
I spray it into a bottle and airbrush it!
The model is gray, the tungsten light used to photograph the model is responsible for the brownish tint seen in the pics.
Thanks Dave, and thanks Carson for sharing your colour scheme, and gallery. Fox

falcondesigns
01-01-2008, 09:15 PM
Hey,JBond,dont shoot the messenger! :)

Admiral Nelson
01-01-2008, 09:18 PM
So the Oz Shop kit is a model of a 700+ foot long Seaview?

Yawn.

John P
01-01-2008, 11:07 PM
Yeah, whew - 22.5" times 400 is 9,000 inches, or 750 feet. :eek:

xsavoie
01-02-2008, 12:02 AM
Great picture of the finished Seaview at the Cult Tv Man web site.It's one big beautiful baby.

bert model maker
01-02-2008, 12:35 AM
simply outstanding !!!

Carson Dyle
01-02-2008, 05:12 PM
In terms of acquiring an accurate rendition of the Seaview we've come a long way since 1970....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/RobSeaview1970.jpg

Not sure what happened to the toy pictured, but I suspect it involved a few firecrackers, lol.

MartinHatfield
01-02-2008, 05:16 PM
Carson, did you find these pics in your end-of-year memory party? LOL

Seriously, it's nice to see toys again that I had when I was a kid.

F91
01-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Yep, but you could buy several new Seaviews with what that Remco is worth!!!!

Carson Dyle
01-02-2008, 05:41 PM
Yeah, this is a good time of year for a little self-indulgent time warping. :hat:

Admiral Nelson
01-02-2008, 06:14 PM
In terms of acquiring an accurate rendition of the Seaview we've come a long way since 1970....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa304/CarsonDyle/RobSeaview1970.jpg

Not sure what happened to the toy pictured, but I suspect it involved a few firecrackers, lol.

I was 6 when I got one of these. Right off the bat I knew it only had one fin. I believe it was modeled off a Japan made Seaview.

spindrift
01-02-2008, 06:48 PM
Dave- Please tell me I'll have this kit in February...good gosh the anticipation is getting to me...I think Seaview all day long...I got it BAD!

Gee am I excited or what?
Has anyone ever asked Frank or Dave what color plastic it wil be molded in? Grey I assume??
Gary :hat: