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pmsimkins
01-03-2008, 09:12 PM
Has anybody ran the Ener-G Cell on the track yet?

Same cell as the EP just different shrink wrap.

CDW35
01-03-2008, 09:48 PM
I have read a lot about the ener-g cell and Its not the same cell as the EP.......

latemodel100
01-03-2008, 09:50 PM
Yeah there are some boys on the Team DCM that are running them now......... Having good luck with them their first weekend out........... Gained some on times and definately picked up a spot or two................

pmsimkins
01-03-2008, 10:01 PM
I have read a lot about the ener-g cell and Its not the same cell as the EP.......

I've read that on the Promatch website too, but the reality is that it is the same cell.

NCFRC
01-03-2008, 10:56 PM
I would have to agree with ya NCFRC, this has been a very "productive" thread. A lot of threads turn into a argument especially battery threads and eveyone usually starts to complain about which is better and so on and so forth. This thread has had no heated battles or anything....

Anywho,
Has anybody ran the Ener-G Cell on the track yet?


Thanks for the positive comments , Pro-Match and SMC claim this cell was
made exclusively for them , but I've seen it for sale from other distributors also,,,,,,,,don't really know .

The trinity ones were just different shrink wrap , I think they were IB's .

Who makes the EP-4500 ? Is that East Power ?

But as CDW 35 said " LETS NOT LET THIS GET INTO WHICH IS BETTER OR NOT AS SO MUCH OF IT IS PERSONAL PREFERENCE "

A good 4200 cell will hold its own against most anything in a 4 minute race.

A good true 4600 cell would only have an advantage in a 5 to 8 minute race.

NCFRC
01-03-2008, 11:06 PM
i'm talking with CE through e-mail as we speak. see if my charger needs some help.


I have alot of respect for CE equipment but when I ran across the power supply issue they commented " we've never seen or heard of one doing that"

Come on guys , we all make mistakes and I guaranty that a running change has been made to better filter out the reg. circuit when discharging.

I've personnally experienced it with 2 diff GFX's and when put on a different
power supply or a clean 12 volts from a car battery ,,,, No problem's what so ever.

Maybe talk to them about having all the upgrades done and if you need it , the lipo option.

pmsimkins
01-03-2008, 11:12 PM
E-Power 4500 = EP4600 = EnerG 4600

New 4200s = New EP4600s in terms of performance

IBs may prove to be superior or they may not.

Trinity is exclusive importer of IBs and they distribute to matchers
SMC distributes the EnerG shrink wrapped cell to matchers

JBRCells
01-03-2008, 11:53 PM
Jim you are correct the current battery situation is a mess.

The reason for the quick approval on the Ener-G cell was the fact that it was the same cell that I had previously approved it was just in a different shrink wrap.

The IB 4600 is a new cell that just released in the last few days. I'm not saying it will never be approved but given IB's lack of quality control over the last year I'm in no hurry to do so.

Honestly if the majority of the racers did not have so many IB4200's that they were still using I would be more than happy to eliminate them from competition as well. They have a problem, they need to fix it. The Cleveland cell was supposed to be the cure but they are staring to find out it's not any better.

Bottom line NO IB4600's this weekend. This is from the BRL thread.... They approved the Ener-G cell quick because it is the same cell they approved a few weeks ago which is the ep 4600... Doesn't matter either of the cells look really good on my matchers... No Meltdowns to date after 10 cases....I like the results.... If IB can bring us a stable cell like the 3800's were I wouldn't hesitate to match them again... But for the time being the EP 4600's are just fine... Justin

brian0525
01-04-2008, 12:20 AM
Same cell as the EP just different shrink wrap.

Couple people have said this and I would love to hear the real story not just "he said she said". Anyone really know or is this just rumor?

What is this then? http://www.jperkinsdistribution.co.uk/prodpics/5/4405285.jpg

Not saying anyone is wrong just would like to know for sure cause I treat the EP cells quite a bit different and if they are the same it would be great to know for sure.

brian0525
01-04-2008, 12:25 AM
And if E-Power 4500 is the same as EP then what is this?

E-Power Battery (http://www.e-power.com.cn/indexe.htm)

EP - East Power/ Enriched Powe (http://enrichpower.com.cn/diyhp/34574/enus/l52351-0/Battery.html)

How are they the same?

charger01
01-04-2008, 10:36 AM
Can anyone tell me about the Elite 4500 cells from cheapbatterypacks.com? If they are just rebadged from another manufacturer, who's cells are they?

pmsimkins
01-04-2008, 10:57 AM
Can't say what they are for sure, but they aren't all that cheap.

Go here if you want a low priced assembled battery pack that is still going to perform well for you.
http://www.lefthander-rc.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=1316

charger01
01-04-2008, 11:12 AM
Thank you PM, I will be ordering soon. Still would like to know who makes these cells, though.

NCFRC
01-07-2008, 08:21 AM
I would have to agree with ya NCFRC, this has been a very "productive" thread. A lot of threads turn into a argument especially battery threads and eveyone usually starts to complain about which is better and so on and so forth. This thread has had no heated battles or anything....

Anywho,
Has anybody ran the Ener-G Cell on the track yet?


Has anyone tested or ran the NEW Team Orion SHO 4200's ???

Stormer's the only one that I've seen in stock.

NCFRC
01-09-2008, 10:18 PM
Ok , I broke down and bought a New 6 cell EP-4600 pack.

D I S A P O I N T E D !!!!!!!!!!!

Quick summary , the run time was longer, the Ir was terrible , and the pack
voltage at 60 sec's was 7.50 , where my EP-4200's are 7.50+ at 240 sec's.

Not very impressed !!!!!

I called the matcher and they commented that I must have done something
to them, if I did it was the same with the 42's .

Maybe not all 4600's are this bad , but this one pack is. :(

NCFRC
01-12-2008, 01:31 PM
OK , I'm open minded and did get some good tips from another distributor about how these cells have slightly different characteristics than what we
have previously run.

Maybe thats why you see so many 4600's being sold as Like New ?

We'll all see with time ,,,,,,I no longer own any and we'll see what next

season brings. :rolleyes:

ghuber
01-14-2008, 08:22 PM
EG4600s are rebranded high voltage EP4200s. They, like the EP4600s are good cells. The IB4600s are also turning out to be great cells; no more reliability issues, or exploding cells. :) Good runtime, volts and IR. That's what we're selling and we've got nothing but good feedback over the past few weeks. Check em out www.surgeworldwide.com...

JBRCells
01-15-2008, 01:50 PM
OK , I'm open minded and did get some good tips from another distributor about how these cells have slightly different characteristics than what we
have previously run.

Maybe thats why you see so many 4600's being sold as Like New ?

We'll all see with time ,,,,,,I no longer own any and we'll see what next

season brings. :rolleyes:
EP 4600's Ran well @ Maximus this Sunday :thumbsup: Was hoping you would come down and run with us maybe next time? :wave: