Remember, it's just a prototype, so it may be revised for any corrections in this next round of fixes, but....

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m200/irvfrbsh/IMG_0866.jpg

Again FANTASTIC frank!!!!!
Finally, finally someone with vision realizes the potential of the Irwin Allen universe!!(with all due respect to Lunar Models). Thanks for the Pic!!!!

Y'know, I always thought "Space Pod? Yikes that is ugly".

But that model looks really cool! :thumbsup: I may have to get one in spite of my previous opinion.

Huzz

I dunno, with some nice curtains it might only be homely.

It's got that Apollo lunar module "gaunt chic" look to it. :freak:

How big would a 1/24 scale Jupiter 2 be?

I know the ship itself is silver but what color would be right for the front? Burnt orange? Also, what is the real color of the FS-1? Between yellow and orange it appears to me.

Yellow.
Like, insignia yellow.

1/24th scale J-II = 24 inches.

1/24th scale J-II = 24 inches.

That is what I am hoping to see ... an 18 - 24 " in diamter J2.

The Space Pod, also was in one episode of Land of the Giants.

1/24th scale J-II = 24 inches.

I came up with 20".

40[the stated diameter]X12 [this gives you total inches]/24 = 20"

D'OH!! Well the 4 foot filming miniature was scaled as if the Jupiter 2 was 60 feet in Diameter. The set was of course smaller, about 40 feet (or was it 48 feet across).

60 feet x 12 = 720 ...... 720 / 24 = 30. THIRTY INCHES!

My biggest shelf is 12" wide.

.......as if the Jupiter 2 was 60 feet in Diameter. The set was of course smaller, about 40 feet (or was it 48 feet across).

Wasn't that a continuing problem with all of Irwin Allen's stuff? :lol: I did some work with some plans and figured to actually make all that stuff fit into the Jupiter 2, it would ahve to be 90'.

Hello Y3a

When I bought the PL Jupiter 2 , I tried to figure the scale. In adding figures I arrived at a scale between 1/48 and 1/60. So in 1/24, 27'' to 30'' wouldn't be bad at all to me for a single level Jupiter 2. BUT,... putting a lower level, plus the reactor level as seen in third season and add to that the Chariot and the Pod and you've got...... a Tardis :p :p :p

So, if I was to dioramise a scene including Jupiter 2, Chariot and Pod in 1/24 , 30'' would visually look good to me....

Gaétan

Allen, IMHO, thought the fan was stupid. Nothing ever fit inside any ship he did. Howelse did the Jupiter have a third level? I thought it was funny that the Jupiter went into another galaxy, according to Will, and they took the atomic reactor, which I guess they didn't need, and attached a balloon to it to get home. Even as a kid I knew that one was stupid.

I believe the intent was to use the balloon to lift the cleaned up, used, Reactor/Sphere to the upper atmosphere of Preplanus then, fire a rocket motor or motors to carry it and it's passanger beyond the planets gravity well. But, then Mr. Allen did not keep close watch on the continuity of the overall story line after the sixth episode

AZbuilder
John

Let Your Imagination Soar

I don't think there was an intent to think the viewer was stupid. I think they just did not worry about those things. Until Star Trek, there really wasn't a real fan base that valued continuity or worried about such things as levels, size or anything else like that. I think he just cranked out the shows.

D'OH!! Well the 4 foot filming miniature was scaled as if the Jupiter 2 was 60 feet in Diameter. The set was of course smaller, about 40 feet (or was it 48 feet across).

60 feet x 12 = 720 ...... 720 / 24 = 30. THIRTY INCHES!

This is the figure we get in our research, 30 inches. Not that I'm saying we're doing it, but we kicked it around.

Hello Frank

BUT, you didn't say you're not doing it either........ :wave:

Gaétan

And Frank

What about Spindrift ; in 1/24 does 24'' compute with your research......?

Gaétan

This is the figure we get in our research, 30 inches. Not that I'm saying we're doing it, but we kicked it around.

Well for God's sake man!!! Kick it around some more! ;)

I'm already building an Irwin Allen wing on the ol' homestead to fit Seaview. Bring it on.

(who say's bigger isn't better. 12" John? bah.)

So, as the four foot Jupiter 2 (based on a 60 foot ship) be 1/15th? EEEUUUWWW!

Wow, both of those look great!

I've seen the actual Space Pod miniature (the large one), and I'd have to call the front panel roughly burnt orange with about 10% white added. By the way, I'd say the pod was about 1/6 scale.

They also had a version of the Pod that was about 1/24th scale. I had the perfect opportunity to walk out of the studio with it one day but my honesty kicked in and it remained where it was. Oh well...

Well for God's sake man!!! Kick it around some more! ;)

We've kicked around so many things our legs are sore! Honestly, I think a 30 inch ship in styrene, with the interior we'd have to put in it, would be way too ambitious. Look for new announcements in February as to what the end of 2008 will hold. I think there will be a few surprises for everyone!

Gaetan's idea of a 24" Spindrift sounds fantastic, but I think that 40" would be closer to studio scale, with plenty of room for a nice interior & lighting. :thumbsup:

Frank- Let's hope for FEBRUARY- I am ready!!!!!!! SEAVIEW looks like a real winner inside out. I think you are going to sell a boatload(pun).
I highly suggest a 24 " diameter Jupiter 2 with upper level and crew figures would actually OUTSELL it, maybe for late 2008???
Gary

24" Spindrift??? YES! YES!

Larger Jupiter Two,Possibly 30" YES, YES, YES........

Hmmmnnn...What suprises do you have for us Irwin Allen Fans Frank??? A larger Flying Sub ?...How about the Time Tunnel Complex?????

Ah Frank,...any more pics of the Spacepod?...Please?????


High Regards,
BEATLEPAUL

I think the lid on the large Jupiter 2 has been shut, but, If it were to be, I would want it to follow the contours of the smaller miniature and not the 4 footer. The 4 footer had a very harsh line on the top curve. I really liked the compound curves on the 12" Polar Lights version.

Ah Frank,...any more pics of the Spacepod?...Please?????


High Regards,
BEATLEPAUL

OK, one more....

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m200/irvfrbsh/IMG_1493.jpg

I will remind my esteemed associates that my shelves are a maximum of 12" wide, and they're pretty dern full already. I won't be buying a 24" round anything.

12" wide shelves? NO PROBLEMO! There's always your dresser, the top of the 'fridge, the back porch, the...

You guys are crazy! Leave the studio scale kits to specialty garage kitters--we've finally got a guy with a smart, realistic approach to doing great styrene kits so let's not ruin it! :)

I will remind my esteemed associates that my shelves are a maximum of 12" wide, and they're pretty dern full already. I won't be buying a 24" round anything.
knock a hole in your wall, that way you will be able to see it from TWO rooms, what a deal !!

The second room would either be the kitchen above the stove, or the bathroom above the toilet. Mmmmm ..... nah.

OH GOD PLEEEEEAAAZZZEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I wonder WHAT exactly you would be modeling. How about a model of the SET with interior. Keep the Saucers with just the scrim and window with just 4 figures. NO CHAIRS, No control panels, none of that junk pulled out of your ........ that just didn't exist. How would you ever be accurate or even close when the exterior scale would be vastly different than the inside? The SPFX Hero didn't have a door on the outside either, so just ADDING one makes the saucer hull incorrect.

An accurate 30" J2 hull in injected styrene with landing gear (working?) would be cool. The interior is a scratch builders dream. Besides Skyhook and the rest wouldn't take long to accessorize.

The cost of the molds might be prohibitive, and I'd hate to see pie sections.

JP if you get rid of the beds and use hammocks you'd have plenty of room.

This is the figure we get in our research, 30 inches. Not that I'm saying we're doing it, but we kicked it around.

Hi...

I'd love to see an accurate Moebius version of the Jupiter 2, and done at a reasonable size and scale: at least 12 to 16 inches in diameter (larger makes storage difficult, for me at least). If a Moebius Jupiter 2 model had quality anything like what is seen in chariot and pod pictures, it would be a fantastic sight.

A smaller but accurate Jupiter 2/Gemini XII would also be interesting to see as a component of a launch diorama (along with cradle, launch tower-tractors). I know I suggested it before, but is there any interest?

Happy holidays...

Jim

. . . A smaller but accurate Jupiter 2/Gemini XII would also be interesting to see as a component of a launch diorama (along with cradle, launch tower-tractors). I know I suggested it before, but is there any interest?

Great idea but let's take it a few steps further:

How about an HO scale multi-ship set of the Gemini XII spfx model with launch tower, Jupiter II spfx model with landing gear, Jupiter II sound-stage ship with little figures and bit of ground base, and the Jupiter II exterior mock-up version with landing gear? :thumbsup:

Lee, you will have better luck, asking Santa.

I know :(

Many years ago, I built a 24" 1/24 Jupiter 2 with an upper deck. I used the fiber optic threads off fiber optic lamp and a set of sequencing Christmas tree lights to kind of randomly light each of the computer lights inside. (I said it was a long time ago.) It looks really cool. It also looks really stupid. If I were to build another 24" Jupiter 2 (and I'd love to! Polar Lights did a brilliant job with the C57, using pie-shaped gores rather than molding each half of the saucer as a piece - must have saved a fortune; it would work just as well on the Jupiter 2 - and the upper deck interior of the J2 was mostly a repeating pattern of walls and girders, much of it could use the same repeating molds) I would make the control room as a separate display model and call the 24" hull 1/72 or 1/96 scale, and scratch upper and lower decks where just the upper deck was, sharing three story tall front viewports. Room for a third engineering level below, and the Chariot, and propulsion, and... All the things they probably wish they could have done for the TV show if they had some money.

I would make the control room as a separate display model and call the 24" hull 1/72 or 1/96 scale, and scratch upper and lower decks where just the upper deck was, sharing three story tall front viewports. Room for a third engineering level below, and the Chariot, and propulsion, and... The Jupiter 2 would have to be at least that big to accommodate everything that was supposed to fit inside it. One problem: In 1/72 scale, a 24-inch J2 would be 144 feet across! Even allowing for space between the vertical interior bulkheads and the angled hull sides, the control deck would be about 120 feet in diameter. That's a lot of mostly empty space!

I'd keep the control deck the same size as it is. I really love the interior sets, would only want to change them minimally. The hatch at the back of the control room would lead into the lower deck, now on the same level, through the lower deck's reactor room doorway. The lower deck would face backwards. The cabins would be somewhat larger. The lower deck view ports would be view screens, like the 1701s bridge's. Actually, the main view ports would only be 2 stories tall. The upper deck main controls would be set a little forward, a small island with space to walk around either side and step out into this large viewing gallery at the front of the ship. The other unused doorway in the control room could lead to the pilot's cabin and lavatory. You could have at least 2 other decks in the J2 (top and bottom).
140' or so? What did they say at the beginning of the first episode, something about "the mightiest machine created by man"? The J2 needs to be huge. If they would have had today's effects people, it would have seemed so. I'd love to model it up that way.

^^^^^^
Agreed. With a little rescaling both levels of the J2 could fit just fine. Since thier was no continuity between the sets and models, theres no reason that a model couldnt incorporate blended demensions from both. As for the third level since it was only seen and referenced in one ep, it could either be ignored or fit into a bigger layout on the second level behind the radiation door that Smith and Will went into. Whos to really say that ladder they went down came from level 2, afterall we only saw them go through that door in the suppy room. They could have crawled back up and then down again off screen into another section behind the staterooms. ;) Lots of possibilities with a full interiior J2.

Would love to see one with rescaled levels and an accurate as possible interior both levels. With the rescaled levels their would be tons of space to add junk behind the walls. Lots of resources to work with to make it happen. I personally like the diagrams in the Jupiter Two: Propulsion Specifications guide. :thumbsup: Probably never happen.If it did though I would buy a boat load. :)

Build the SETS as models of the upper and lower level(s) SETS!!

You guys will NEVER have ANY accurate Jupiter 2 model with AN INTERIOR If you try to fit and match up all the different scales. Polar lights already TRIED! HELLO!!

A two foot model with working Landing gear and spinning mechanical lights like the 1t year Hero would be excellent.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/dere41.jpeg

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/medium/J2landed.jpg
Also build a 10" Gemini 12 model with the bigger, flatter fusion core, no gear, and the blinking light instead of spinning effect would be cool too.
10" is about the correct size for the SPFX model used in the show.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/12398_58369_98.jpg
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/Picture_14.jpg
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/509/12-2.jpg

I will remind my esteemed associates that my shelves are a maximum of 12" wide, and they're pretty dern full already. I won't be buying a 24" round anything.
What do you think the cieling is for? Hooks and fishing line!