Among the first all new castings for the 1970 Superfast line-up.
I got the red one new in 1975.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/RedGrp6-3.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/RdGrp6-2.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/RdGrp6-1.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/iGreenGrpmg_0995.jpg
This one I'm thinking the wheels came this way, but you never know.
Was it SMS88 that said it could be an error ? - are there any other remote possibilities like a pre-pro?????
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/GrnGrp6-1.jpg
Well there you go - my Group 6 thread. I guess the 1/1 did poorly on the track.
Lastly some open wheelers & D-Types. The good Lotus is one I got new as well.
It's allmost mib but has some humidity damage.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/Lotussss.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/D-Types.jpg

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/Lummoxed/Bug-3.jpg

I would tend to agree with SMS88 on the negitive variation, it is pretty neat tho seeing 2 wheels missing the finish chrome, very unusual.

Great line up of some fantastic vintage racers. Great stuff Lummox!

Oh no, sorry - your looking at two different green cars there.
All 4 wheels are missing any trace amout of chrome. If someone removed it they were extreemly thorough.
You guys would be proud - I checked all three for any slight casting differences :p
(found none)
So what do you fellers thimk?

Any more opinions on the Group 6 with the black wheels???

The machine could've just missed painting/tampoing them. It had to happen occasionally didn't it?

I don't think it's that exactly -
The wheels were chromed before they were put on the axles
so if it is factory than this is more dilliborate than that......I think.

The wheels were chromed before they were put on the axles

How can you tell that? :confused:

I would assume they were, I mean it seems like it would be alot harder to design a machine to
chrome the wheels on the axles or on the car.
It would just make sence to me but I could be completely wrong - it did happen this one time... :cool: :p

I would assume they were, I mean it seems like it would be alot harder to design a machine to
chrome the wheels on the axles or on the car.
It would just make sence to me but I could be completely wrong - it did happen this one time... :cool: :p
Wheels were chromed before fitting to the car.
This car is an early casting with the round 7 sticker - this shade of green later carried a rectangular 7 and most commonly a rectangular 45.But the very first run was the solid green color without the gold undercoat/green clearcoat on these shown here.
Its possible that this car was made on a day when the chrome foiling machine was defective (chrome has been missed from Leyland Trucks like 10 & 51, Ford F150 like 6 & 50) but I suspect given the amount of handling that this car has received, that some greasy fingered kid wore off all traces :cool: of chrome because one or two wheels could miss chroming but all four is a very very long shot.
Unless of course this car was a factory trial for the new size of tyres, and correct me if I am wrong, but I suspect the Group 6 was in fact the first casting fitted with these design hollow wider (rather than previously standard skinny) wheels -is it possible -a factory pre-pro sent to the USA as a sales sample ;)`????

I would assume they were, I mean it seems like it would be alot harder to design a machine to
chrome the wheels on the axles or on the car.
It would just make sence to me but I could be completely wrong - it did happen this one time... :cool: :p
D'oh.

I wasn't thinking when I posted that, sometimes my common sense doesn't make it to my fingertips :lol:

So it IS a pre-pro. Thanks SMS! :cool:
Seriously though, this one has been played with surprisingly little.
Fairly moderate ware on the wheels would suggest that.
More than half of it's paint loss is due to humidity damage(I friggin' HATE that!)
I have quite a few beat up old Superfast and have never seen ALL traces of chrome gone.
Unless like you said someone removed the chrome, the only other possibility
is that it came that-a-way imo.
Thank you sir for the great info as always!!! :thumbsup:

Edit: I just re-read about the very first color of this car was a non-metalic green so I guess it's not the first version???

a few with pink and green base plates. :)
i believe the pre production mini haha base plate with # 45 was changed to # 14 because there were so many group six models to be released.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4928/group6sf45grpar4.jpg

cRaZy mAn!i!i!i! Cool base plates! Gotta find that lime car.
What IS that picture in the back ground? Some sort of box art or??? LOVE that!
I don't understand the whole Mini-Har-Har changed to #14 'cause there were so many
Group 6s to release thing - this sounds intriguing.
Great pic, Mr. Mountain! Thanks for adding to the thread.

Oh, I have that BMC with those same stickers. Must be some Gift Set with a track maybe?
Tell me more!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/SMS369/toys/2007-12Dec117.jpg
Here is my small selection of Ford Group 6.The Super GTs are actually some of the smartest color combinations of that rather cheap looking range.I am very pleased to have the sealed blister pack with the round 7 sticker metallic green car inside, the loose green car being my childhood example new on Christmas day either in 1969 or more likely 1970 -on each Christmas day I get out some of the cars given to me as christmas gifts when I was a child - its my way of recalling the personal magic of Christmas and diecast :)

Well it's about time you showed of your Group 6's!!! ;D Nice blister! Such cool artwork on those.
Now is that a British only card on that one?
"Smart colors" - what are you, British or something? ;)
Strange how the orange-y #2 Super GT's tampo is a-symetrical.
Thanks Mick!
LMX

Well it's about time you showed of your Group 6's!!! ;D Nice blister! Such cool artwork on those.
Now is that a British only card on that one?
"Smart colors" - what are you, British or something? ;)
Strange how the orange-y #2 Super GT's tampo is a-symetrical.
Thanks Mick!
LMX
That card design was used for Canada & parts of Europe including Denmark & Sweden 1969-70, but no evidence so far that they were ever sold in the UK before the later 1972 design.
Smart? Thats Lesney design for you.......
Abso-lutely 100% Britissshhh Lummox old chap :) ,make mine a gin & tonic when you pass the bar theres a good fellow.......... :wave:

nice blistered group six. :thumbsup:
i thought the super gt group 6 were the better of the bunch too, with the fandango being a little weak.
i have few kicking around i’ll try to post them.
lummox, the box is back of the g-3 gift set. there was just little more life in the group six, a very popular model.
a corgi 6 with a matchbox :)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2994/group6cormbuj4.jpg

Mountain - what do you mean by the quote below???


i believe the pre production mini haha base plate with # 45 was changed to # 14 because there were so many group six models to be released.

the group six wasn’t ready to be retired so the mini took the iso's place. i have something written down in a little more detail, that might take a while to find. :freak:

Oh, ok - I get it now.

nice blistered group six. :thumbsup:
i thought the super gt group 6 were the better of the bunch too, with the fandango being a little weak.
i have few kicking around i’ll try to post them.
lummox, the box is back of the g-3 gift set. there was just little more life in the group six, a very popular model.
a corgi 6 with a matchbox :)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2994/group6cormbuj4.jpg

Both sixes but a Ford and a Porsche :wave: That white with wide chrome wheels is the last Corgi Juniors issue of that casting and (a fairly HTF)variation I havent found yet.Today the skinny black whizzwheels is not hard to find, & the yellow Rockets is the most common Rocket of all available on ebay very cheaply.

Mountain : Do any of your Group 6s have skinny SF wheeels or do they all have the same medium thickness hollow tyres like our cars?

Mountain : Do any of your Group 6s have skinny SF wheeels or do they all have the same medium thickness hollow tyres like our cars?
And since the non-met. green was first, would that version be the only one
that would've gotten skinnies?

all of them have the same wheels.

i believe the kelly green group 6 has the same wheels.
does anybody know if they were found in stores, don’t recall seeing it on any early lists, just the metallic green bodies.
that color model was seen on early advertisements and packages and might be one of those hard to catalog variations. :)

all of them have the same wheels.

i believe the kelly green group 6 has the same wheels.
does anybody know if they were found in stores, don’t recall seeing it on any early lists, just the metallic green bodies.
that color model was seen on early advertisements and packages and might be one of those hard to catalog variations. :)
All of the kelly green ones that I have heard about on ebay have come from Germany, so perhaps they are like the cream rw Cougar and Aqua Opel Diplomats - a small quantity shipped to stores in 1 country only.
Probably the first Lesney with this wheelsize

And now especially for Dave, see what those Chinese pirates did with the Super GT casting to make their own totally annonymous model which can be found with all unbranded 1990s tat at garage sales.The cheapo casting appears to be the top of the Lesney tool although the front area around the headlamps has been recut 1mm or so shorter, and the seats are new design along with the baseplate that covers the area below the lower seam lines on the Lesney
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/SMS369/toys/2009-May068.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/SMS369/toys/2009-May060.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/SMS369/toys/2009-May059.jpg

Wow, what nerve! Interesting though - would make for a good wheel swap canadate.
Is the rear window smaller on the Chinese and the red one???

Just wanted to add Ward's custom to this thread.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/WilsonRacePhotos/Wilson%20Customs/DSCN1854.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/WilsonRacePhotos/Wilson%20Customs/DSCN1851.jpg

A very good custom, the wheels look spot on :thumbsup:

Here are my British Lesneys surrounding the chinese cousin, windows and glazing units all look identical size wise,even down to the mirror
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e113/SMS369/2009-May057.jpg