Everyone the 2008 Midwest Champs race is here. The online signup with paypal is open. CRCRC Sign-up (http://www.crcrc.com)

Two options to sign-up

1. Print out the pdf flyer and mail it in
2. Fill out the online registration and pay with paypal.

Either way, follow the link above to get it in!!

Big Dog - how long should we give you guys to update the drivers list after we have sent in or registered online?

I know off the CRCRC site that is a thing everyones always asking.

Look forward to getting down there and running mod this year.

Big Dog - how long should we give you guys to update the drivers list after we have sent in or registered online?

I know off the CRCRC site that is a thing everyones always asking.

Look forward to getting down there and running mod this year.

I will get the list up as soon as possible. There will be a link on the front page.

big dog-i am having problems logging into the web site. i did talk to the person in charge of the site, but still no luck. i have had this problem for over a year. everytime i am down there i say something about the issue. there is not a link of any sort to let you gyes know of any problems with log ins because you first have to log in, see the first problem. any help in this would be vary helpful. thank you, Reuben Diaz. (rdiazracer@aol.com)

Reuben, I have given your info to a couple of people in the past. PM me info again and Big Dog and I will git-r-dun

i can not get my pm to work. sorry. if you could just have them wipe out my profile i will go back and re-register. screen name is ohiostatechamp. e-mail is rdiazracer@aol.com. i do not know the pass word. when i ask for the pass word, i never get the e-mail. thank you for your help, nitrohead. if there are any questions, feel free to e-mail me. i would really like to get this resolved. I miss the full use of that web site.

dell
Something weird is up with your screen name and e-mail. I cant even delete it. If you have another e-mail addy try to re-register. I know our site does not like *@aol.com, *@hotmail.com and other online e-mail addys.

thanx anyway bigdog. i will just re-register with a different e-mail address. hope to see you before the mid-west, if not i will be at both gas and electric races. and the post race if there is one again this year.

Yup, Post race is on.

We are getting a lot of sign ups in. It starting to fill up fast. If you want to attend, you need to sign up quick!!!

Big Dog,
Is there any chance that you would let me run my Electric Losi 8ight at the nitro race?
thanks,
Doug

why would you even ask that ?????????? :rolleyes: it is called the annual NITRO race for a reason :thumbsup:

why would you even ask that ?????????? :rolleyes: it is called the annual NITRO race for a reason :thumbsup:

There is no law against asking questions is there? You just nervous that an electric car is going to SMOKE you!

why would you even ask that ?????????? :rolleyes: it is called the annual NITRO race for a reason :thumbsup:


Well it is a nitro car ... Just converted to electric ....Its still is a 1/8 scale buggy :)

You guys will find anything to argue about LOL

I have a brushless conversion and would never expect to run with nitros and vice versa.
If you remove the nitro engine then it is no longer a nitro car or truck. If there is no class yet then you will have to wait until more people build some and then have a class. Its real simple. Just because a brushless is faster most of the time you think nitro guys are afraid of them. The truth lies in what nitro classes are meant to be..nitro powered. Asking if he could run with nitros was his dougs choice but I agree that it was a poor question to ask in a forum and should have been directed in a PM to the race director.
Would any of the electric guys like or let a nitro guy race in a electric only race??? I think a race director would also frown on that. Local club races probably but not in a big race. Create a class for your conversions and race.My .02

Big Dog, how do u think the turn out is gonna be for this friday? 4 of us are planning on coming down, but don't want to drive 2 hrs. if everyone is going to Fastraxx.

Sending in my form today. Looking forward to my first Midwest.

See you guys in Jan.
Jerry

Big Dog,
Is there any chance that you would let me run my Electric Losi 8ight at the nitro race?
thanks,
Doug

As long as it fits the Roar rules on 1/8 scale NITRO powered cars. I dont have a problem with it. But it MUST follow the rules. :thumbsup:

Big Dog, how do u think the turn out is gonna be for this friday? 4 of us are planning on coming down, but don't want to drive 2 hrs. if everyone is going to Fastraxx.


Well it seems that no one showed at either place this weekend. :confused: :freak:

Well it seems that no one showed at either place this weekend. :confused: :freak:

Nitro or Electric ?? CRCRC had a bad weekend too I take it.........I figure it was the gas prices that kept people away

As long as it fits the Roar rules on 1/8 scale NITRO powered cars. I dont have a problem with it. But it MUST follow the rules. :thumbsup:


back when there was no real truggy class only Monster truck classes and guys were converting buggies to Truggies and then the frist Truggies came out the Monster truck racers cried but the truggies were still allowed to run.

There should be no difference in a convereted 1/8th scale from Nitro to elec why it should not be able to run as well in such said class. The buggy came as a Nitro buggy as long as he's motor does not exceed the given displacement for a legal Nitro engine in said class. People make too much out of nothing This hobby is what it is a "hobby" Let new technology progress and see where it falls. This guy with an elec buggy may flop or again he may walk away as the winner and if the later happens it'll open up the door for new technology as the hobby can keep building and move forward.
This guy in one way or another can beat any techical wording by just installing an non working powerplant in the buggy. Nothing in the rules states it "must" be powered by that power plant.

James

back when there was no real truggy class only Monster truck classes and guys were converting buggies to Truggies and then the frist Truggies came out the Monster truck racers cried but the truggies were still allowed to run.

There should be no difference in a convereted 1/8th scale from Nitro to elec why it should not be able to run as well in such said class. The buggy came as a Nitro buggy as long as he's motor does not exceed the given displacement for a legal Nitro engine in said class. People make too much out of nothing This hobby is what it is a "hobby" Let new technology progress and see where it falls. This guy with an elec buggy may flop or again he may walk away as the winner and if the later happens it'll open up the door for new technology as the hobby can keep building and move forward.
This guy in one way or another can beat any techical wording by just installing an non working powerplant in the buggy. Nothing in the rules states it "must" be powered by that power plant.

James

I like the way you think James......


We have let Doug run with the Nitros at Medina and no one cared. He was basically the same speed as most, faster than some but slower than others. We have him come in for four second "pit stops" (which IS longer than a good fuel pit) on a 7:30 minute schedule. This has worked out very well.

Don't get me wrong I am sure at a race of this size the people that are slower will have a problem with the fact that the car is electric however, I am sure he would still be faster than those people if he was powered by a Nitro engine!!!!

Maybe they could run an exibition class if they get a group of guys wanting to run them (I know there are a group of guys on RC Tech that would be interested in running). This would only add about 45 minutes to the total show. 8 minutes for each of the 4 quals and a 15 minute main. Just a thought.

As James mentioned truggy came from the Monster Truck class. Once the classes were seperated then the rules became finalized and we now enjoy a exciting and competitive new class.

The only other thing I have to add is these cars are AMAZING to watch!!!! Really cool......

Chris

Thanks guys,
That is all I want to do is show case the new technology. I would also like to show that the cars both nitro and electric have their pros and cons and show how they can be grouped together with no ill effects and to bring the new technology to all the people that currently run the same type of platform.

Hi Chris,

Thanks, I wasn't real sure what type of response I was actually gonig to get from my post. I was trying to be realistic in this w/o being an a** The mandatory pit stop is a good thing keeps it level. The driver in these races are the ones that wins. So the guy with an Eele convereted buggy could win this if he can drive or may come in dead last. There is no advantage to his buggy over a nitro powered buggy. Some can argue his motor won't die.... It can die his SC can thermal on him and shut off. Just like a Nitro can lean out. This has to be loooked at openly and with the future in mind. Heck when I use to race Elec off road we had 700MAh packs and just a hand ful of motors to choose from, look at it now Lipos brushless systems and even tires. Our tires were factory spiked tires nothing fancy with all different tread designs and compounds as there are today.

This is the promotors decision to allow converted 1/8 nitros to run or not and a decision he'll have to make wisely for the future of his shop/track and for the hobby. So i guess we'll see where the cards fall on the guy wishing to enter his converted buggy.

James

I really don't really see the big deal in running an electric with the nitro's. If the driver of the electric 1/8 buggy takes the mandatory pit stops there is really no advantage. The only difference would be in the energy the cars are using and having no fumes coming out of one. I would like to see the electric cars run or atleast have their own class.

I really don't really see the big deal in running an electric with the nitro's. If the driver of the electric 1/8 buggy takes the mandatory pit stops there is really no advantage. The only difference would be in the energy the cars are using and having no fumes coming out of one. I would like to see the electric cars run or atleast have their own class.


There shouldn't be a big deal actually. As for having a sep class there prob won't be enough converted cars to do this so as i had mentioned back when Truggies showed up in MT classes they ran them together until a class was established. Before that happened they had what was called MT open class where those with Truggies and MT could run together.

James

As you know I feel that they should not be run together.
Some have mentioned helping the tech move on like the truggys did. Maybe so but there were still nitro powered. What part of the difference between their power source do you not see??????
I am all for helping the electric conversion move on. I only have a mini electric conversion at this time but plan on building one in 1/8th scale aslo. But I will not run with nitro when using it. Why do all the big races split the types at most big races. Most people want the types split.
I started a poll on my board asking what others thought and so far its 2 to 5.
The 5 say they should be kept seperate and should have their own class. Most people know how well a converted buggy-truggy runs and the advantages of them. Instead of complaining that they should run together get some more people to make some more so there is more for a class. 1/8 electric is going to take off just give it time.
There is no worry about one winning in nitro class its just you made a choice of what type of power you want to use. So where is the issue with running with electrics? Not with nitro.

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Just something to think about. :thumbsup: :wave:

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Just something to think about. :thumbsup: :wave:

I see your point yet it's kinda ute since there are classes for this Truck. There are no classes for 1/8th electrics as of yet. Same as it was with MT and truggies when they evolved from the MT as they are today. This 1/8th Nitro conversion is on the same field as the Truggie/MT was when that era happened. yes both were Nitro but there was no established class for the truggie then either. Thats what we have here today a hybrid of the 1/8th Nitro buggy. The debate can go on today with this just as it did back on the truggie/MT era and it'll iron itself out and then there will be a new class. I'll also say the Nitros then will be on there way out the door as the technology progress with Brushless motors and ESC and Lipo batteries. Which there was another debate The NIHM and Lipos and running together or not.....
Like I said from the beginning it is what it is a "Hobby" The only ones getting rich off this are the manufactuers for us it's for fun and yes we like to be competitive and win but we also have to go home after a weekend of racing get up on Monday and return to work as well.
What you guys gonig to do when someone comes up with a twin engine elec off road car? You'll find reasons to say it's unfair or it can't race. It's always going to be some reason or excuse.

Why not just call it 1/8th scale off road that way it's not Nitro or elec specific?

Think about all that.

James

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Just something to think about. :thumbsup: :wave:
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hehehe eric!!

Running nitro with electric is total diffrent from running electric with the nitro. Running a nitro car with the electric cars would require the doors to be opened. Are the doors open when the electric run? No, So how can you even ask if you can run a nitro with the electirc's?

Running nitro with electric is total diffrent from running electric with the nitro. Running a nitro car with the electric cars would require the doors to be opened. Are the doors open when the electric run? No, So how can you even ask if you can run a nitro with the electirc's?

Besides the smoke......... Then how can you even ask to run electric with nitro?

This is not a single sided street. Get more guys to build 1/8th electrics and start a class for them. Count me in when you do it.

LET IT GO DAVE T.
bottom line when the class actually grows to become its own class you will have a spot to run in . until then i believe that on a club level or non large event situation they could be ran with nitro ,,, but not at a NITRO specific event.. with over 400 entries...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o319/shobelle/dead%20horse/c906.jpg

I race gas and electric now and I have to agree with Bryan on this one. The post before the picture that is.

LET IT GO DAVE T.
bottom line when the class actually grows to become its own class you will have a spot to run in . until then i believe that on a club level or non large event situation they could be ran with nitro ,,, but not at a NITRO specific event.. with over 400 entries...


That's how I feel also.... no big deal at a club race but not a good idea at a race this size.... not to mention you never now what someone else may want to run because "he was aloud to run his" so "why can't I run this".
It may open the door and cause more problems.
I see the point of "this is just a hobby" but at a race of this level for alot of guys it's more than just a hobby.

Just my one cent :thumbsup:

I was sharing my opinion, I didn't mean to get on anyone's nerves.

Sorry,
David

David, You did'nt get on anyones nerves!......... Hell, it gives us something to talk about.
No big deal at all......It's really a good debate.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Can I run truggy tires on my 1/8 scale buggy in the buggy class???

Well it seems that no one showed at either place this weekend. :confused: :freak:
I was referring to this coming friday (nov. 16th).. And what do you guys usually do if only a handful show up? Practice?

BigDog - any update when the confirmed drivers list will be posted on the CRCRC site?

Any suprises this year from the pros??

To all who want to run and 1/8 scale BL/LiPo buggy in the Jan race please contact Tony Screws. I gave him some info that might just please everyone.

Everyone please understand why we can not run a orignally nitro car conveted to electric in a race for nitro powered cars. It will go over like a fart in church. Not very well.

BigDog - any update when the confirmed drivers list will be posted on the CRCRC site?

Any suprises this year from the pros??
Soon I am currently entering names into a spreadsheet

Thanks,
I will work on getting all the guys together. Thanks for the support.

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Just something to think about. :thumbsup: :wave:

When gas truck FIRST came out they did.

They combined them with the electrics until the class could survive on its own. As a matter of fact, the first GT's were converted electric trucks, A-main, Duratrax and a few others made the conversion kits, then after a year or two the manufactures started making purpose built gas trucks. Boom new class that evolved out of something totally different. Now it is just the opposite situation. I think an exibition would be great.

Chris

When gas truck FIRST came out they did.

They combined them with the electrics until the class could survive on its own. As a matter of fact, the first GT's were converted electric trucks, A-main, Duratrax and a few others made the conversion kits, then after a year or two the manufactures started making purpose built gas trucks. Boom new class that evolved out of something totally different. Now it is just the opposite situation. I think an exibition would be great.

Chris
Yes it would be great,I am sure CRCRC would like to have an exabition class for the .5 crt also but there is just not enough time in the day. I know adding an 1.5 hours per day don't seem like much but when your adding it to a day that is already 16 hours long it makes things hard on the guy's running the race. Don't forget CRCRC is an all volenteer club and man power is hard to come by for free!!!!!! Hopfully both of these will become more main streem and warent a full blown class in the future.

Yes it would be great,I am sure CRCRC would like to have an exabition class for the .5 crt also but there is just not enough time in the day. I know adding an 1.5 hours per day don't seem like much but when your adding it to a day that is already 16 hours long it makes things hard on the guy's running the race. Don't forget CRCRC is an all volenteer club and man power is hard to come by for free!!!!!! Hopfully both of these will become more main streem and warent a full blown class in the future.

I totally understand about adding hours to a race day. I am the RD for Medina R/C Raceway. We have a really tight schedule as the parks closes at a certain time we deal with this on a weekly basis. Plus it's just me and my wife who run it! (sorry about the quick highjack Big Dog)

Also, I'm not sure how it would add 1.5 hours per day though. 8 minutes for each of the 4 quals (5 for the qual 3 for the warm up). and 15 minutes for a main is 47 minutes to the entire show. If they get 2 heats then it more like 1.5 hours or so again to the entire show not per day. Plus in the post you quoted I was stating that they DID run the GT's with electric trucks back in the day, not as a seperate class.

I know the CRCRC guys will do an excelent job as always.

Thanks again Big Dog and crew. Hopefully I can get mine done in time!!!!

Yes it would be great,I am sure CRCRC would like to have an exabition class for the .5 crt also but there is just not enough time in the day. I know adding an 1.5 hours per day don't seem like much but when your adding it to a day that is already 16 hours long it makes things hard on the guy's running the race. Don't forget CRCRC is an all volenteer club and man power is hard to come by for free!!!!!! Hopfully both of these will become more main streem and warent a full blown class in the future.


Marty
There is something special in the works. To announced soon.

Ya, Big Dog got an RC8 and is getting faster. Look out.