Faithful GreenLight Customers:

We want to thank you for your responses regarding some of our recent releases. We take the quality of our products very seriously and strive to manufacture the very best die-cast products possible. We are aware of a number of small errors found on some of our 1:64 scale cars over the past few weeks and are making every effort to ensure that further production defects are fixed or discarded before they leave the factories. These errors are unacceptable and we are working with our production facilities to improve quality control procedures. With the help of our collectors, we have some great images and feedback to provide our factory personnel.

Also, in response to the recent posts about cost cutting, we have indeed changed the bases of our cars to raw metal for our main line collections. This has been done for product positioning reasons only as we will unveil new collections of product within the next month that will feature painted bases, greater engine detail, accessory items, and other EXCITING attributes. These items will be launching in early 2008, and will help to further differentiate between GreenLight lines that are available at mass retail stores, and GreenLight lines that are more oriented towards our hobby customers.

As always, we welcome your questions and concerns and thank you for your ongoing support of GreenLight Collectibles.

Sincerely,
TEAM GL

Sounds good to me. Are we going to see a major increase in "hobby" item prices vs. mass retail products?

Great! I'm looking forward to the 'painted bases, greater engine detail, accessory items, and other EXCITING attributes'. 2008 should be an exciting year.

Faithful GreenLight Customers:

We want to thank you for your responses regarding some of our recent releases. We take the quality of our products very seriously and strive to manufacture the very best die-cast products possible. We are aware of a number of small errors found on some of our 1:64 scale cars over the past few weeks and are making every effort to ensure that further production defects are fixed or discarded before they leave the factories. These errors are unacceptable and we are working with our production facilities to improve quality control procedures. With the help of our collectors, we have some great images and feedback to provide our factory personnel.

Also, in response to the recent posts about cost cutting, we have indeed changed the bases of our cars to raw metal for our main line collections. This has been done for product positioning reasons only as we will unveil new collections of product within the next month that will feature painted bases, greater engine detail, accessory items, and other EXCITING attributes. These items will be launching in early 2008, and will help to further differentiate between GreenLight lines that are available at mass retail stores, and GreenLight lines that are more oriented towards our hobby customers.

As always, we welcome your questions and concerns and thank you for your ongoing support of GreenLight Collectibles.

Sincerely,
TEAM GL


I for one view this response as a positive thing. I would like to thank GL for letting us know, that they are listening. I look forward to future product and hope the high quality of GL's product returns throughout the entire line.

MAN, what a company to even take the time to read our boards, much less respond!!!!! Thanks for taking an interest. I look forward to improved quality.

MAN, what a company to even take the time to read our boards, much less respond!!!!! Thanks for taking an interest. I look forward to improved quality.

I couldn;t agree more :thumbsup:

MAN, what a company to even take the time to read our boards, much less respond!!!!! Thanks for taking an interest. I look forward to improved quality.
Hear! Hear! :thumbsup:

I must say it's great to hear feedback from the company instead of nothing. I look forward to their continued success and potential offerings! :thumbsup:

MAN, what a company to even take the time to read our boards, much less respond!!!!! Thanks for taking an interest. I look forward to improved quality.

What a GREAT company! :thumbsup: Mistakes are made no matter if it's a 1:1 car or a model car. Thanks for listening Greenlight! I'm sure your quality will improve!

Now see... THIS is why I am selling most of my Hot Wheels collection and buying GreenLight products. I was a little concerned after having seen some of the pictures of the quality issues, heck, even finding an un-numbered car myself... Ahhh, my mind is now at rest. :)

WOW! I like Greenlight, even taking suggestions from the board

Now thats what I call Good buisness!!! Oh and since you guys are presently listening, Can we get a 91-96 corvette in the lineup. Preferrably a ZR1 if its not to much to ask. Really, I would like to Thank you for listening Greenlight.

First-Rate company here, folks. Responding to the collector community speaks volumes for Greenlight :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

This is what I want to see from GL to make their cars first rate.

First, the bad news:

1) Wheels.
Waaaaaaaaaaay too --W--I--D--E--... the width is so ridiculous, they make what would otherwise be a fairly good casting instead look like they were intended for kids. What would be the benefit to GL with more realistic narrower wheels? That is *real easy* (besides making the profile more realistic), YOU MAY ACTUALLY SAVE SOME MONEY ON ALL OF THAT EXCESS RUBBER (WHEEL) AND PLASTIC (RIMS)!!

2) Open ALL panels.
It has been done before with quality and respectable proportion and detail. If GL is going to position itself as a collectible diecast maker filling the void left by HW, check these lines out:
a) Ertl American Muscle series in 1/64 almost did it, with opening hood AND opening trunk (by the way, though the quality had issue at times but still decent, the proportions and interpretation to scale were excellent).. and they actually had separate undercarriage components for great realism.
b) Muscle Machines did it with the Pro Stock Chevy series 2 years ago.... the the details were good but not great, the opening doors and removable hood with engine detail was excellent.
c) GMP diecast did an all open C5 Corvette in yellow... a real beauty with opening doors and removable hood to reveal excellent detail. Probably the best 1/64 casting I have ever seen... the only problem was that they never did any more than this one casting.
d) Shelby Collectibles with their late 60s Mustangs and now with their new Mustangs, opening doors and hood to reveal engine detail. Very exciting line, but this company will only focus on Shelby cars so we probably will not see more than half a dozen different castings in all before they stop all together.
e) The NASCAR diecasts, like the defunct Team Caliber and Action Elite series, with opening hood and trunk, and excellent detail with removable bodies to reveal complete detail!

Now the good:
1) GLs are going for the void left by HW. Fairly good quality diecasts, and decent proportions in the *body* lines itself (the wheels are awful), and I like the fact that we at least have an opening hood. Definitely more consistent quality than JL, and obviously more potential than MB.
2) I like the fact that GLs are fairly easy to get, good distribution, and the website is fairly good and listing all castings and variations.

ARE YOU READING THIS GL? NOT ALL OF US ARE STUPID, AND KNOW WHEN COMPANIES ARE CUTTING CORNERS or have some difficulty with executing proper scales. Please, charge whatever you want for a high end line, but save your self some money on these excessively and ridiculously wide wheels, and raise the bar with opening all panels, paint and detail the undercarriages.. and I think GL would be out of this world!

I kinda like the wheels........ Especially the realism detailed in the stock castings. Go with what you got Greenlight!

plankowner,

I am NOT making reference to the profile of rim castings themselves, ONLY THE WIDTH!!

In fact, I think the detail on the side the rim's profile is pretty good (the spokes, the detail of the nuts and bolts), but again, the *WIDTH* of the overall wheel is exaggerated.

Case in point:
Look at the cars from the side (where the wheels' width is impossible to decipher), and the rim detail is actually quite good!

Now, look at the cars from either the front or the back... the wheels are almost a quarter of the width of the car itself!!!!

Understand what I mean?

PS. By the way, the only GL castings with 'not-so-wide' wheels is the Shelby GT500 (and the casting itself is nothing more than a repainted Mustang).

The wheels are GREAT! Greenlight is Great! Thanks Greenlight guys!!

I'm Looking Forward To Another Great Year Of Greenlights.i Hope The Rumored Movie Car Collection Comes To Fruition As Well.keep Up The Great Work And Thanks For The Thanks To All The Collectors That Enjoy The Work You Do So Well.

Hey Sheldon, I think that you hit the nail on the head with respect to the tire width. I did find that the rim size is a little big on the Dodge Charger SRT8. The True Scale Length of Width of the GL Charger SRT8 is 1/63.5 and 1/63 respectively, but the True Scale Rim Diameter on the Charger is 1/56.4, a little on the large size.

Having said that, I think that for the most part, the rims and tires (although a little too "big" in all proportions) look amazing and work great on 99% of the castings.

If anyone is interested in where I got my scale info from, I started a little page on the GreenLight cars called InsideGreenLight (http://www1.freewebs.com/insidegreenlight/). It's a work in progress, but takes a different perspective on the GreenLight castings. Please feel free to check it out and leave a comment.

Hey GLH Turbo:
Like the website. Keep them coming. :thumbsup:

I like my GL cars, but basically the only complaint I have
is that the wheels are w a y - to - w i d e ! ! ! ! !

This thread comes as no surprise to me. It is just another example of how Greenlight listens to the collectors and keeps them informed. They have been doing it for some time now. Thanks again Greenlight for great products and great information. Most of all, thanks for listening to us collectors. I hope you guys are around for a long time to come.

The new lines sound exciting and I'm really looking forward to seeing them.

Thanks for listening GL. It takes a heck of a company to listen to the collectors. I can't wait to see what you come up with in 2008.
Thanks again from a faithful collector. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[QUOTE=69Stang]MAN, what a company to even take the time to read our boards, much less respond!!!!! Thanks for taking an interest. I look forward to improved quality.[/QUO
that's the way i feel too

plankowner,

I am NOT making reference to the profile of rim castings themselves, ONLY THE WIDTH!!

In fact, I think the detail on the side the rim's profile is pretty good (the spokes, the detail of the nuts and bolts), but again, the *WIDTH* of the overall wheel is exaggerated.

Case in point:
Look at the cars from the side (where the wheels' width is impossible to decipher), and the rim detail is actually quite good!

Now, look at the cars from either the front or the back... the wheels are almost a quarter of the width of the car itself!!!!

Understand what I mean?

PS. By the way, the only GL castings with 'not-so-wide' wheels is the Shelby GT500 (and the casting itself is nothing more than a repainted Mustang).

I understand your point and appreciate your opinion. It was stated quite well the first time so I did not need any follow up explanation. All I was doing was stating my opinion that I do in fact, like the way the wheels are designed. No reference to your point was meant. I think we can both agree that not many companies out there have taken the time to effect the detail of OEM wheels quite like Greenlight. They are doing a good job!

Very Cool! Thanks for the Update GL!

Nice to hear your response and concern Greenlight :thumbsup:

They've actually been working on the wheels, the models in the Corvette collection have much more proportional styling and still have a nice beefy axle - not bent like on 1/5 of my JL's.

So far these guys are doing it right and I'm a fan - MCG5 is on order :)

A quick 'in retrospect' edit: I do wish they'd keep painting the bases on all models for that "Finished" appearance - A quick comparison made the unpainted bases look cheap. The dark grey metallic painted base for the default models would not in any way detract from a 'detailed' painted base on different series/model level.

Just wanted to say it's GREAT to hear from Greenlight on current and future diecast plans ! ! ! I can't wait till the launch of the new Greenlight Collector Club :thumbsup: Please continue to keep us all informed.

Scott

Thanks for the info Greenlight !! I dont mind the wide tires .. The only problem Ive seen lately is the whitewalls & white letters on many are 'off register' - not centered on the tire . That detracts from your excellent castings !!!

Hello, I have been reading here for quite some while and chek out the boards at least weekly. i used to post in the JL section, but I'd say it's been around a year since my last post. Anyways after seeing these cars and being impressed with their looks online, I had to find them. After looking for a while I finally found them at the local K-Mart. i have bought 2 and my brother has bopught 3 (he is a Mopar nut and collects anything Mopar). Anyways, i love these castings. They seem to have damned good details and LOVE the wheel design. the other bad thing is the black 65 Coronet I bought has some bubbling paint on the trunklid, but I still love it and it just looks like it is ready to run some shine LOL. I also have the 78 Pace car Vette and it was flawless. Anyways, I am very glad that you guys take the time to not only admit the quality problems, but also fix them. Those will not be the last Greenlights i buy and I anxiously waiting for the SRT-8 and SRT-8 Superbee. Any chance of you guys coming out with a muscletruck series? My main interest (along with my brother's who has a very nicely customized on with a nice 426 stroked) is a 98-03 Dakota R/T (preferably in deep amethyst :) ). Would also love the Ram SRT-10, 1st and second gen Lightnings, the GMC Syclone, and the 90-93 Chevy 454 SS. There are a LOT of truck nuts out there that would scoop these up as quick as you can make them! Oh, OK, sorry hehe. Anyways, keep up the good work!

I'm happy with them all, keep up the good work GL:thumbsup:

Overall, I have been very pleased with what GL has done so far. I am not a particular fan of some of the wild paint colors or designs on the custom versions, yet the stock versions look pretty nice. I for one, like the wider tires and the fact that a car like the 63 Chrysler 300, or the 68 Impala are larger than the GL 69 Mustangs, for example. The cars are not just scaled to fit a package as JL does, resulting in a 68 Camaro that is larger than a 69 Impala.....yes, I have found a few errors, my two biggest gripes were the 68 Impala with exposed wipers (they are hidden on ALL 68 full-size Chevy's) and the hood opening on that casting was not correct. Only other thing I did not like was the fit of the plastic roof on the 67 Coronet. One of the things I really like is that when the same casting is used for two different model years, the differences between them are correct. Again, this is not always true of JL castings. The one that most notably comes to mind is how JL tried to pawn off a 65 Nova as a 63 and a 64. All they did was change the tampo for the side trim, and leave all three model years with the 65 front and rear styling. They also did 68 Firebirds with vent windows (eliminated for 68 on the 1:1 car) and 69 Cutlasses with the same problem.

Greelights are the best when it comes to detail.

GL will never improve if everyone endorses mediocrity... I just got the new Shelby Collectibles 2006 Mustangs!! Not only do they have opening doors an engine detail, they have separate pieces for the lights, making their detail *better* than GL...GL is good, but there is a LOT of room for improvement.

Faithful GreenLight Customers:

We want to thank you for your responses regarding some of our recent releases. We take the quality of our products very seriously and strive to manufacture the very best die-cast products possible. Defects are fixed or discarded before they leave the factories. These errors are unacceptable and we are working with our production facilities to improve quality control procedures. With the help of our collectors, we have some great images and feedback to provide our factory personnel.

Sincerely,
TEAM GL

Yes Please print your above statement and hand it out to everyone at the GL Roundtable, we wouldnt want anyone at GL to get complacent &/or lose sight of what u stated above.... :cool:

GL will never improve if everyone endorses mediocrity... I just got the new Shelby Collectibles 2006 Mustangs!! Not only do they have opening doors an engine detail, they have separate pieces for the lights, making their detail *better* than GL...GL is good, but there is a LOT of room for improvement.
I agree, the Shelby's are the best 1:64 scale out there without a doubt.....and the price is the same. However the selection is not there. Someday somebody will give us the quality of the Shebly's and the selection of Johnny Lightnings. Will it be Greenlight???? I hope so.

oh, and Greenlight, call me if you have career opportunities and need a model advisor. :thumbsup:

I was at first very cautious about GL cars, as the first car I bought and opened up about fell apart. The shaker scoop fell out when I opened the hood and when I picked it up by the roof, it almost made my hardtop 70 Stang a convertible without a windshield. That being said, I still collect GL makes the best out there in 1:64, recently there have been a few slip ups, but the company wants to succeed and listens to its customers. It was a while before I bought any GL's after that first car, but now I look them over carefully whenever I do buy them in stores. I really liked that stang, wish it wasn't in pieces. Other than this car, I havent really had anything to complain about with GL.

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/9/1/1/6/6/webimg/76061901_o.jpg
Looks normal, right?

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/9/1/1/6/6/webimg/76061893_o.jpg
Guess not

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/3/9/1/1/6/6/webimg/76061907_o.jpg
Hey, that shouldn't be there!

Looks like alot of dirt in the paint also.

Looks like alot of dirt in the paint also.


I was just noticing that myself

I live in NC and have yet to see a GL in person, can anyone tell me if anyone carries GL's here? i would much rather buy them at a store than online

First I'd like to thank GL for the great stuff they have been putting out. Many like the 64 Plymouth have been a long awaited and some you've put out and are about to put out put you on top of my list and put the fun back into my collecting.

Secondly, this thread just goes to show that you can't please all of the people all of the time and that some folks are going to complain even if you gave them a pot of gold, about the pot, the gold, the width of the gold, whatever.

You quality is very good. You strive for great. Keep it up.

BTW, My cars sit on a shelf and I roll them a time or two. I might open the hood once or twice. I have the Shelby stuff and like them for what they are. But if we're talking scale you could throw a cat through the door gaps! Please NO NEW OPENING PANELS! They will only give more rise to the complainers as above.

Thanks again!

First I'd like to thank GL for the great stuff they have been putting out. Many like the 64 Plymouth have been a long awaited and some you've put out and are about to put out put you on top of my list and put the fun back into my collecting.

Secondly, this thread just goes to show that you can't please all of the people all of the time and that some folks are going to complain even if you gave them a pot of gold, about the pot, the gold, the width of the gold, whatever.

You quality is very good. You strive for great. Keep it up.

BTW, My cars sit on a shelf and I roll them a time or two. I might open the hood once or twice. I have the Shelby stuff and like them for what they are. But if we're talking scale you could throw a cat through the door gaps! Please NO NEW OPENING PANELS! They will only give more rise to the complainers as above.

Thanks again!

I have to say I 100% agree with all of the above. I bought one of the Shelby cars tonight and the opening doors bug me more than make me happy, you just can't get them to line up right when closed which just happens to be an issue I have noticed with basically every 1/64th scale model with opening doors. Though, i'll admit, they are nice IF you are doing a diaroma. Anyways, give them time, they are having toothing pains, it happens. Look at a JL or Hotwheels from years ago and compare them to their products today HUGE difference and GL better than their current stuff just starting out. I believe they will only get better. I think they are great and this is for 3.50 a pop or therabouts, we aren't talking spending 50 bucks for a franklin mint product..................

BTW, My cars sit on a shelf and I roll them a time or two. I might open the hood once or twice. I have the Shelby stuff and like them for what they are. But if we're talking scale you could throw a cat through the door gaps! Please NO NEW OPENING PANELS! They will only give more rise to the complainers as above.

Thanks again!

I agree that you are going to have complainers no matter what you do. I have actually been in contact with Greenlight regarding flaws on several of their cars that I have purchased. What impresses me about Greenlight is the fact that they are approachable, they listen to the collectors, and are continuosly improving their product.

BTW... I think Shelby Collectibles has done a nice job with their opening panels. Lets face it, this isn't easy to do in such a small scale and they have pulled it off quite well IMO. I am satisfied with the fit of the doors on my cars. I tend to display them with the doors slightly open because it is such a cool feature.

Whoever says that they do not like opening doors either likes curbside models only, or wants more mediocrity and saying this with a slight amount of caprice. In the case one capriciously says the Shelby doors are bad, then why not apply the same criteria of exactitude rather than give a pass for GL's grossly out of proportion wheels?

Not only that, if GL is so great with detail and interpretation to scale, they will be able to do it better supposedly??

Shelby's detail is quite good given the sub $5 price point. I think GL could do it, why not?

By the way, there are already so many castings without openings, so for those who dislike openings you are welcome to stay with those closed curbside castings.

As an analogy, it is sort of like someone who likes pizza saying that pizza should be the only fast food and to shut down all burger joints!! Or like someone saying that because they like Mustangs, that should be the only castings and the hell with Mopars or Chevys?

For crying out loud, I say the market is big, and if GL wants to stand out they can build better detailed cars. And if it is difficult, they could always do a more exclusive series and charge another buck or two... but on the level of detail, irrespective of openings or not, there are so many other castings (100% HW, Shelby, Kyosho, GMP, Norev, CM's, Hots, etc) that do have separate pieces for the head and tail lights, as well as separate undercarriage components that are definitely better than GL.

Give them time. They are a fairly new company. Everyone of those you listed is an older company. As for the Shelby cars, I am sure the company actually making them is an older company that they outsourced to make the cars, considering the one I have says Made in China....... And while they do have opening doors, the Shlby I have has an unpainted base that has NO seperate components. I know the 100% Hot Wheels are a lot more expensive than the GLs too (9.99 i believe or almost triple the price). Ya know, i just hate it when IMHO they make great replicas ESPECIALLY considering the price point. looiking at what is offered at the local stores, Motor maxes, Jada, etc which are the same price or HIGHER than the GLs, they are pretty well done. They do have their quality issues, but they are fixing those and are behind us and have shown they are standing behind their products. I respect that. IMHO, they already stand out, and I will be buying more even if the doors don't open and the base is just one piece and the price stays right.

Whoever says that they do not like opening doors either likes curbside models only, or wants more mediocrity and saying this with a slight amount of caprice. In the case one says it out of caprice and say the Shelby doors are bad, then why not apply the same criteria of exactitude rather than give a pass for GL's grossly out of proportion wheels?

The above statement is presumptuous and narrow-minded. You would presume to believe that if everyone does not share your zeal for opening panels and precision details down to the tread that they are willing to settle for average or less than. I vote with my dollars just as you. I guess if you have bought any of the GLs you too have settled for the mediocrity you so depise.

Not only that, if GL is so great with detail and interpretation to scale, they will be able to do it better supposedly??

Shelby's detail is quite good given the sub $5 price point. I think GL could do it, why not?

I have them sitting side by side. They measure up very well together. Even considering the door gaps. You also must consider the two companies. Ol' Shel' olny puts out replicas of Shelbys. Thus he has one, maybe two, tire sizes due to the vehicles he is replicating. GL does several different makes and models so they must make small compromises. Problem with Shelby is that once all of the Shelbys are done so is he. Shelby wont be putting out a 57 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser. I'm fairly sure of that. Will Green light? Maybe, maybe not. Point is they are putting out stuff nobody else is and doing a damn fine job of it. Who else has done a 63 Chrysler 300? How 'bout a 65 Coronet?

By the way, there are already so many castings without openings, so for those who dislike openings you are welcome to stay with those closed curbside castings.

I refer back to my first comment above.

As an analogy, it is sort of like someone who likes pizza saying that pizza should be the only fast food and to shut down all burger joints!! Or like someone saying that because they like Mustangs, that should be the only castings and the hell with Mopars or Chevys?

No. But it is like saying I like anchovies therefore if you don't like anchovies on your pizza, every pizza, you must be daft since you don't see the world of pizza as I do. And the Mustang analogy is off base too. Look at the variety GL is giving us! I have heard that variety is the spice of life. Never a mention of true scale tire width. Just doen't have the same ring to it.

For crying out loud, I say the market is big, and if GL wants to stand out they can build better detailed cars. And if it is difficult, they could always do a more exclusive series and charge another buck or two... but on the level of detail, irrespective of openings or not, there are so many other castings (100% HW, Shelby, Kyosho, GMP, Norev, CM's, Hots, etc) that do have separate pieces for the head and tail lights, as well as separate undercarriage components that are definitely better than GL.

In my opinion they already stand out. They have said they strive to do even better. They have more cool stuff coming out soon. They got my vote even if my 1/64th man must climb through the window ala Duke boys.

Constructive criticism is good. The the company listens to us is very good. If GL wants to make all of the panels open, the tires to perfect scale and fill the little tank up with gas, all for $3.99 so be it. If they don't I'm good with that too. I like what they've done and I look forward to the next release and the next. Have I bought every casting issued? No. Will I buy one of every one done in the future? Likely not. I only buy what I like. So far I like a lot of what you like to make...whether the doors open or not.

I've started buying a few GLs and love them. Only thing I would ask for is more variety - do some exotics, older sports cars, etc. That 61 Vette is fantastic.

They don't even have that many castings yet so far,
but I agree with Quantum. More variety would be nice.

Well, if it's true that Mac Ragan is joining the GreenLight Team, we may all be in for some surpises!

Hey Mac, don't forget about the fire engine red '65 Coronet 440 wagon! :thumbsup:

The '64 Fury Max Wedge and '65 Coronet 500 were done very well. I was very impressed to see GL attended to the differences in the '66 and '67 Coronets along with the differences between the '67 and '68 Impalas.
Keep 'em comin'! I'll make room! :)