What classes need to be run at the bird?

I think most will agree the 19 turn class is dead and should be dropped! Maybe a 10.5/4300 Brushless sportsman class should be added. Also the 6 cell Factory class maybe another class that is gone. also the touring oval class is dead, those guys can buy a sprint cars. So what do we have then:


4 Cell stock
4 cell 13.5 Brushless(biggest class at the bird in 2008)
4 cell Pro 10.5/4300 Brushless
4 cell Pro Mod
6 cell sprint cars
1/12th 4 cell 10.5/4300 Brushless, 19 turn or stock
4 cell Sportsman 10.5/4300 Brushless

I'm not votin till you inclued sk's in the vote,lol.

I think maybe have these major classes and then one exhibition class but not the same exhibition class two years in a row. maybe spec one year and sk one year sprints another and maybe even 1/18th scales on year. just whatever's popular and maybe a vote on the snowbirds site four-six months in advance. this could help prime those classes and keep it fun. have the sponsor of that class put up a kit or something.

Rotating exhibition class is a great idea.

I think 19turn should still be a class. However Pro and Sportsman should be combined. It's fun to race with guys like Honeycutt, Ziggy, Sean, Arnie, etc. I think sometimes its more fun than mod because you can bump and rub without tearing stuff up. I know a lot of people don't run 19turn very much through the year, but there always seems to be a big crowd at the Birds. And that is the only race that matters anymore.


Mike and his crew have been doing a great job with the Birds for years now, and he should/will keep doing it his way. No matter what, it will still be the biggest and best r/c race in the world, period.

So thanks to Mike and his crew!

Adam Liehr

What I see with all the extra classes nobody is running weekly: LESS PRACTICE for all the other classes. I for one need all the laps I can get at the bird. The more classes added, the less practice every class gets.....My list above provides every skill level a place to race. If you want to stepup and run with the big boys there is a class for you, If you want to stepdown and cherry pick, there is a class for you.

Hmm a little "stab" there. whatever, I'll ignore it.

13.5 and stock practice together
4300 and 19 practice together
bl and brushed mod practice together

problem solved!

Plus it is a national calibur race. It is expected to race against the best of the best in each class. Therefore cut the sportsman. It is not needed.

Like I said.

Mike has done a great job in the past and will continue to do so. So this little argument is irrelavent.

I'm done, posting on this. If anyone has a problem pm me.

Adam Liehr

Hmm a little "stab" there. whatever, I'll ignore it.

13.5 and stock practice together
4300 and 19 practice together
bl and brushed mod practice together

problem solved!

Plus it is a national calibur race. It is expected to race against the best of the best in each class. Therefore cut the sportsman. It is not needed.

Like I said.

Mike has done a great job in the past and will continue to do so. So this little argument is irrelavent.

I'm done, posting on this. If anyone has a problem pm me.

Adam Liehr
13.5 and stock can not practice together the speeds are too far apart

I think maybe have these major classes and then one exhibition class but not the same exhibition class two years in a row. maybe spec one year and sk one year sprints another and maybe even 1/18th scales on year. just whatever's popular and maybe a vote on the snowbirds site four-six months in advance. this could help prime those classes and keep it fun. have the sponsor of that class put up a kit or something.

As long as Tony continues to put up the money, the sprints will stay. No matter what anyone puts on a poll. Plus w/ the schedule like it is he may be able to race, so of course the sprints will run again.

SK modified 13.5 Brushless

4 cell stock on "top"....sweet!