2007 – 2008 NEOT RACES

RACE 1 FINISHED
SEPT 22, 23

MAXIMUS RC Raceway (SOS)
Heath Jackson
York Meadowbrook Plaza
647, US Route 1
York, Maine 03909
TEL: 207-351-1520
http://www.teammaximus.com/ (http://www.teammaximus.com/)

RACE 2 FINISHED
OCT 6

MARSHALLS HILLTOP HOBBIES
BILL & DOT MARSHALL
ROUTE 652
HONESDALE, PA 18431
TEL: 570-729-7458
WWW.marshallshilltophobbies.COM (http://www.marshallshilltophobbies.com/)

RACE 3 FINISHED
OCT 27, 28

RC TOY BOX (FALL BASH)
2176 Portland St
Saint Johnsbury, VT 05819
TEL: 802-748-1030
http://rctoybox.com/v5/ (http://rctoybox.com/v5/)

RACE 4 FINISHED
NOV 17

RACING CITY HOBBIES
Midtown Center
110 Main Street
South Glens Falls, NY 12803
TEL: 518-792-7272
http://www.shoprch.com/

RACE 5 FINISHED
DEC 8, 9

RC TOY BOX (TOY DRIVE)
2176 Portland St
Saint Johns bury, VT 05819
TEL: 802-748-1030
http://rctoybox.com/v5/ (http://rctoybox.com/v5/)

RACE 6 FINISHED
JAN 12, 13

MAXIMUS RC Raceway
Heath Jackson
York Meadowbrook Plaza
647, US Route 1
York, Maine 03909
TEL: 207-351-1520
http://www.teammaximus.com/ (http://www.teammaximus.com/)

RACE 7 FINISHED
FEB 16

RC MADNESS
CHRIS MARCY
640 ENFIELD STREET
ENFIELD, CT 06082
TEL: 860-741-6501
http://www.rcmadness.com/index.asp?AID=25 (http://www.rcmadness.com/index.asp?AID=25)

RACE 8 FINISHED
MARCH 8

RC MADNESS
CHRIS MARCY
640 ENFIELD STREET
ENFIELD, CT 06082
TEL: 860-741-6501
http://www.rcmadness.com/index.asp?AID=25 (http://www.rcmadness.com/index.asp?AID=25)


RACE 9NEXT RACE START TIME 4 PM
MAR 29

MARSHALLS HILL TOP HOBBIES
BILL & DOT MARSHALL
ROUTE 652
HONESDALE, PA 18431
TEL: 570-729-7458
www.marshallshilltophobbies.com (http://www.marshallshilltophobbies.com/)

RACE 10
APR 19, 20

MAXIMUS RC Raceway (IRON MAXIMUS)
Heath Jackson
York Meadowbrook Plaza
647, US Route 1
York, Maine 03909
TEL: 207-351-1520
http://www.teammaximus.com/ (http://www.teammaximus.com/)

SPONSORS: (CURENTLY CONFIRMED)

TQ CELLS, Steve Salvas, www.tqcells.com (http://www.tqcells.com/)
(1) 4 cell battery pack at the even number races (2,4,6,8,10)
Race 1: NA
Race 2: NA
Race 3: NA
Race 4: 2 Packs
Race 5: NA
Race 6: 1 Pack

JBR CELLS, Justin http://www.jbrcells.com (http://www.jbrcells.com/)
(1) 4 cell battery pack at the odd number races (1,3,5,7,9)
Race 1: Three 4 cell battery packs
Race 2: NA
Race 3: NA
Race 4: NA
Race 5: NA
Race 6: 2 Packs

BSR Tires, John Foister, http://www.bsr-racing.com/
(10) pair of front and (10) pair of rear tires
Race 1: 1 pair front tires, 1 pair rear tires
Race 2: 1 pair front tires, 1 pair rear tires
Race 3: 1 pair front tires, 1 pair rear tires
Race 4: 1 pair front tires, 1 pair rear tires
Race 5: 1 pair front tires, 1 pair rear tires
Race 6: 1 pair front tires, 1 pair rear tires

PUTNAM PROPULSION, Todd Putnam. www.putnampropulsion.com (http://www.putnampropulsion.com/)
Race 1: Motor
Race 2: 2 bodies, 1/10 oval
Race 3: 5 pair brush tunning kits
Race 4: NA
Race 5: NA
Race 6: 6 bottles comm drops

RKR, Jon Anderson, http://www.rollskanardly.com (http://www.rollskanardly.com/)
Race 1: NA
Race 2: 4 tires tubes, 2 T-shirts
Race 3: NA
Race 4: Misc small items
Race 5: NA
Race 6: NA

KSKT, Ken K,www.kskts.com (http://www.kskts.com/)
Race 1: Tape, Glue, Grease, Body Posts
Race 2: allot of stuff
Race 3: servo tape, springs, glue, etc
Race 4: Misc items
Race 5: NA
Race 6: NA

WINDTUNNEL RACING PRODUCTS, Rob Murdock, http://www.windtunnelracingproducts.com/catalog/
Race 1: Front End Springs
Race 2: NA
Race 3: NA
Race 4: NA
Race 5: NA
Race 6: NA

ORC, Walter Stuber & Jorge M, http://ovalracingconcepts.com (http://ovalracingconcepts.com/)
(13) T-Plates, (8) Ceramic Diff Ball Sets
Race 1: T-Plate, Ceramic Diff Ball Set
Race 2: 2 T-plates, Diff Balls
Race 3: T-plate, Diff Balls
Rcae 4: T-plate, Diff Balls
Race 5: T-Plate, Ceramic Diff Ball Set
Race 6: 2 T-plates, Ceramic Diff Ball Set

Tour Classes And Rules:


Tour classes:

STOCK (SK) 27 turn/17.5

13.5 (SK)

STOCK (1/10 pancar) 27 turn/17.5

13.5 (1/10 pancar)

10.5/19 TURN (1/10 pancar) yes we will be running brushless 10.5 with 19 turns.

Rules:

Motors: Stock motors will follow ROAR rules www.roarracing.com (http://www.roarracing.com/)
Brushless motors will follow BRL rules www.brlracing.com (http://www.brlracing.com/)
19 Turn: Open to any 19 turn continuous wraped armature.

Weight: Pancar 40 oz (2.5 lbs)
SK 36.8 oz (2.3 lbs)

Cells: 4 cell Sub-C up to 4800 mah's

Raffle Information: $2 per class

Tickets will still be given out to anyone who wants to take part in the points at each event. I tried and still will try to document who wins the race prizes donated by the tour sponsors (this is allot easier if sponsors let me know ahead of time what there going to donate at each race). I didn’t think it was going to be so hard keeping track of who won what. I believe I’ve come up with a better way of doing it and also tracking the racers entered in the points compared to racers not entering NEOT points. Bill was using a modified entry form for the last race at Maximus that I believe worked well. I will continue using it to enter people racing and keep track of race prizes and the winners of those.

We will also be raffling off a Hyperdrive Pro 3 complete car kit. Those tickets will be $1 and sold at every tour race. The car will be given away at Maximus, April 20th.

Tech:

Host Track Tech: We will be following all host track rules with no exceptions, sorry for this but to cause the least amount of headaches for the host track this is the only way to do it.



NEOT Tech: Tracks that falls under NEOT teching will adhere to a relaxed teching procedure, weight, battery (visual inspection) and the motor will be looked at thru the slots or taken apart only if asked by another racer in his/her class. I don’t want to be tearing apart motors every week. We need to keep this fun for everyone involved and not have too many unnecessary rules. I will be spot checking cars at random and expect if any racer see’s something out of line to bring it to my attention or the host track officials.



If something comes up during the tour it will be addressed at that time.



There also may be instances were a person can be DQ’ed from the host tracks race and still get NEOT points and the other way also. NEOT may DQ the person but the host track may still give then the win. This may sound confusing but let’s say a person gets DQ’ed at a track for being to low (ride height), the tour will still give him points since the tour doesn’t have a ride height rule. This is just an example, Some tracks that the tour may visit don’t weight cars, so you could win the host track race and not get any points for NEOT. I hope that makes sense to everyone. I don’t want to leave the authority of DQ’ing people from NEOT points in the hands of the host track, but we will adhere to there decisions for there race. I know this doesn’t sound simply, but I will assure you this isn’t something the racer will have to worry about. I have chosen tracks that match up well with what the tour is all about and follow the vast majority of the same rules.

This section will need some work!! I hope the racers understand why the tour needs to do it this way until it can have stand alone races.

Points And Funds:

Points: Best 6 out of 10 races. Points will be run almost the same, 100 points for 1st, 99 for 2nd, etc, 1 extra point for TQ, and the only change will be 10 points if you attend all 10 races. The bonus points could mean the difference between winning and loosing in some cases. I believe you should be rewarded for supporting the tour and spending all that time and money.

Current people eligible for bonus: ZERO


Funds:

Entry fees collected 2007 - 2008: $490
Prevous years balance: $9
Raffle Car Kit: $154
Donations: $100, RC TOY BOX
Expenses: $550 TROPHIES
Current Balance: $203

Please don't cut and paste these above posts, they may change and I want people to refer to them rather then pasted items on other pages.

Thanks Mike Valentine
MSV3875@aol.com

Points And Funds:

Ok To Post Now!
So far so good.....

10 Races.... How many drops??? Bonus for complete attendance??


Thanks

Casper, that stuff is listed above. Just didn't have it done when you posted.

Casper, that stuff is listed above. Just didn't have it done when you posted.

Sorry, It's just after last Friday night. I seem to be a little quicker on the trigger... LOL....

aka. "Don't hack me on the start"

Sorry, It's just after last Friday night. I seem to be a little quicker on the trigger... LOL....
yea OK buddy, go buy another system, lol

and it begins already, on a new thread.

and it begins already, on a new thread.

Are you trying to imply something???

Who Me??? never

Now do I have to separate you boys.... hehe!

Looks good but i'm not crazy about the idea of 10 bonus attendance points. The winner of last years stock class won only by the fact that he attended more races than 2nd place, I realize attendance is neccesary but LESS emphasis on attendance and the outcome would be nice.

What I am trying to say is that if you attend 6 of 10 events and win all 6 you could still lose to someone who attended all 10. Maybe a bonus to drivers who complete 6 events? Just a better balance between finish VS attendance is all, something to think about. As it sits attendance plays more of a role in finish points than how you actually finish. food for thought

Mike,
Thanks for taking care of that. Come Sunday if you want to battle it out on the banks.

Looks good but i'm not crazy about the idea of 10 bonus attendance points. The winner of last years stock class won only by the fact that he attended more races than 2nd place, I realize attendance is neccesary but LESS emphasis on attendance and the outcome would be nice.

What I am trying to say is that if you attend 6 of 10 events and win all 6 you could still lose to someone who attended all 10. Maybe a bonus to drivers who complete 6 events? Just a better balance between finish VS attendance is all, something to think about. As it sits attendance plays more of a role in finish points than how you actually finish. food for thought

The winner of last years stock class didn't win because he attended more races, He attended the same number of races as you did and the third place person. He did attend more then some others, but if you don't make the minimum amount of races you can't expect to beat people who make more races then you.

Yes if you attend 6 races and don't TQ any of them and some guy finishes 1st the four times you aren't there and 2nd twice and TQ's each of the 6 races he attends he'll beat you also. Without even getting any extra points, while attending the same number of races as you, even thou your avg finish is better. You would have 6 win, no TQ = 600 points the other guy 4 wins, 2 seconds, and 6 TQ's, = 604 points. If we had a similiar bonus structure in place for last year it wouldn't have changed points in the least, Howard was the only person to compete in every event and even if I gave him 10 points he wouldn't have beaten Clayton. With the price of gas and the tracks being more then 4 hours apart I feel the bonus is a good idea and will stand for this year.

Mikester,
So hows sunday looking for you?

In regards to TP's posting on the old NEOT thread. I think you make very good points and agree to most if not all but still wanted to comment. I think since the brushless is so new to the sk class that I even suggested maybe we should wait and test some more like the 17.5 before we go buck nutty and offer more classes to the tour. However I did find that the 13.5 is a good speed between stock and 19t. Looking back to when we were racing 6 cell stock s/k's with solid chassis, granted it was a more strict of a class as far as rules etc but they were still ballistic fast for a solid car, infact I am willing to bet the 13.5 4 cell is slower than running 6 cell stock. People like speed and when its speed and virtualy no maintence involved, its a given people will run the class, 13.5 is taking off at turn 4(k/n) very fast, past 2 weeks I would say close to 10 people have it now. 5 at my home track. I wasnt even aware that mike added it to the tour until he posted the class but I do know he said he needed to make a choice asap. I am in the process of asking and confirming to all the sk guys who have the 13.5 systems in the sk cars now if they infact are going to attend and race each tour event, but I still think the majority will run brush stock. Me personaly if the 13.5 doesnt run in the sk cars, I would run 13.5 pan, but again it would be the same problem in pan car, just because its offered doesnt mean they will show, like last years pan stock which died QUICK.

hey mike,
we ended up getting our own scale for our series down here so there wouldnt be a big difference between tracks. just a thought incase you dont have that already
goodluck with everything

Ken,
Good points that you make. I think ultimately it'll probaly be 13.5 SK. I can't really see it reversing now that 10 have them and more are getting them. Afterall the lion's share of the SK's come from our area. I don't how many SK's are out there, but of the ones that travel and race the neot, I think 10+ is a sizeable percentage of the 40-45 that show at the bigger races.
For now finances and my current investment in stock motors keep me from switching. I know I'll have to bite the bullet either before the series or midway. I hate the idea of jumping classes halfway through, but we'll see what I can do.

If NEOT SK class does brush only class and I am there and you don't have a brush motor I will lend any one a motor.

MIKE you are doing a GREAT job with NEOT.

Ken,
Good points that you make. I think ultimately it'll probaly be 13.5 SK. I can't really see it reversing now that 10 have them and more are getting them. Afterall the lion's share of the SK's come from our area. I don't how many SK's are out there, but of the ones that travel and race the neot, I think 10+ is a sizeable percentage of the 40-45 that show at the bigger races.
For now finances and my current investment in stock motors keep me from switching. I know I'll have to bite the bullet either before the series or midway. I hate the idea of jumping classes halfway through, but we'll see what I can do.
buying the system is the hard part for most because of the big investment right away, but most dont think it will save you in the long run. The past couple weekends have been awesome not having to change motors or cutting,dyno'n all that crap but its not going to put you in the winners circle just because you have a BL system. The BL systems makes you work to get fast, but allows you to spend all your time on the setup and not the motor. makes you think for sure.

Mike the rules and point system is really good if you ask me. i do think anyone willing to race every event should get a bonus. also thanks for having 2 events at marshalls. should be fun! also i think having 4300 with 19t is a good idea and should make for a bigger/better class then if it was seperate. good luck!

Looks good but i'm not crazy about the idea of 10 bonus attendance points. The winner of last years stock class won only by the fact that he attended more races than 2nd place, I realize attendance is neccesary but LESS emphasis on attendance and the outcome would be nice.

What I am trying to say is that if you attend 6 of 10 events and win all 6 you could still lose to someone who attended all 10. Maybe a bonus to drivers who complete 6 events? Just a better balance between finish VS attendance is all, something to think about. As it sits attendance plays more of a role in finish points than how you actually finish. food for thought

Maybe 1 point for each race you make, but they do not get dropped when you throw away your worst runs.
Just a thought.

First Race is less then one month away Maximus RC, Sept 22 and 23. Just wanted to let you guys know I'm trying very hard to get more Sponsprs for this year while keeping the ones that have soported then tour in the best. I haven't really heard to much about the posted rules so far so I'm going to take that as a good sign most racers agree with them. Please E-mail me MSV3875@aol.com or post here with any questions.

Maybe 1 point for each race you make, but they do not get dropped when you throw away your worst runs.
Just a thought.

I kept thinking about your idea and it just never seemed right to me. If you give one point each driver at every race they attend it wouldn't matter until you started dropping races. I could give points to drivers after they start dropping races, 2 points when you make 7 races, and 2 more points for each race after that. Evwen that idea doesn't seem like enough of a reward to a racers who makes all 10 races. As of now the 10 point bonus will stay.

You should award points to Chris Harrington for NOT attending NEOT races, then drop points for everyone he attends...
:thumbsup:

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...everyone at work just looked at me funny when i started laughing..

You should award points to Chris Harrington for NOT attending NEOT races, then drop points for everyone he attends...
:thumbsup:


W:freak:W TP that's rough... but still funny though.:lol:

John

You should award points to Chris Harrington for NOT attending NEOT races, then drop points for everyone he attends...
:thumbsup:
Where's the love! See all you guys hopefully soon.
Rick<><

I'm just glad there are people like Chris around; he makes me look like a saint.

saint valentine does sound better than smokey the bear lol.

Heath as taken some creative license in signing me up.

...everyone at work just looked at me funny when i started laughing..

No, you noticed them looking funny at you when you started laughing...they were looking at you funny loooong before you laughed, that's just when you caught them... heh heh...

Valentine: No one can ever make you look like a saint...any time someone starts to overshadow your past, Terry and I will be there to remind them... heh heh :thumbsup:

Oh, and I landed you a killer helmet ride for the dirt race...call me skullagio-

Valentine:[/b] No one can ever make you look like a saint...any time someone starts to overshadow your past, Terry and I will be there to remind them... heh heh :thumbsup:

Oh, and I landed you a killer helmet ride for the dirt race...call me skullagio-

Thats all he needs is a killer ride. Just give him parts to build one, 1minute after the A main.

Madball, will you be attending some races this year?

Going to make a good effort, to be there. :)

I just wanted to bring this back up top and let guys know, this Sunday will be a great time to practice at Maximus for the first race of the tour. Looks like there's going to be a pretty good sized turnout so traction shoul dbe up.

I just wanted to bring this back up top and let guys know, this Sunday will be a great time to practice at Maximus for the first race of the tour. Looks like there's going to be a pretty good sized turnout so traction shoul dbe up.
What's that ebonics?

Rick. What's that words of a former sponsor!

Rick. What's that words of a former sponsor!

Ouch, shot fired! You boys play nice now. :devil:

Bill are you making the first race? or are you still busy with the the real cars?

this series sounds like alot of fun and very organized can't make the first one, but will be at marshalls good luck to everyone in maximus Tom Postalwait

It's a lot of fun. Very competitive too.

Bill are you making the first race? or are you still busy with the the real cars?

The Maximus race is the same weekend as our finale. Looks like my return will be the first weekend in Oct. I have a family commitment the last weekend of this month then I'm free to get back to the little car. I can't wait to get back, See you guys soon.

Bill, see you then.

Mike, for the mod race are LiPo's allowed???