View Full Version : Tomy to Aurora lock & joiner adapter?


twolff
08-18-2007, 12:45 PM
Anyone know of an adapter track to connect Tomy to Aurora lock & joiner (Model Motoring) track? I'm coming up empty searching on my own. I think the Tomy to Aurora adapter track I've run across are for Aurora AFX track.

Thanks in advance.

SplitPoster
08-18-2007, 12:55 PM
I had looked too, had some ideas about incorporating some of the neat old L&J bridges and cobblestones in with TOMY. Best I found was TOMY/AFX, then AFX/L&J. From what I've seen the latter can be a little pricey if bought alone, but I got two pairs in AFX track lots cheap.

twolff
08-18-2007, 03:23 PM
You're not kidding about a little pricey :)

I'm considering trying a MM bridge for my now flat layout. I've gotten to the point of wanting to screw down my current layout. I wasn't happy with trying to do an overpass with ind. supports in the past and had ruled out an elevation. An Aurora country bridge would be the ticket. I also have to wonder how the different HO chassis would handle it??

SplitPoster
08-18-2007, 04:19 PM
You're not kidding about a little pricey

Yeah, like a lot of things on the ol bay, if sold alone in a box it can get dang expensive. However, if you look at stuff that goes for low $ - early AFX sets (especially those without cars), and AFX or mixed track lots, adapter tracks are not that uncommon. Hopefully you can spot them from a picture. I'd rather buy an AFX track lot for $12 with a pair included than pay $30+ for a pair of these alone.

Good luck with this. I hunted adaptors so I could incorporate things made in one style and not in another - tjet track with 12" banked curves made only in AFX. Now I have so many options that I am deadlocked lol. Even have wide track adaptors, but no wide track to go with it.....

It's kind of funny that there is so much modifying and customizing of cars on this forum, but also a lot of resistance to doing similar things with track.

noddaz
08-18-2007, 05:40 PM
Sounds like it is time for...
FRANKENTRACK!!!
lol
Scott

1976Cordoba
08-18-2007, 05:46 PM
I'm considering trying a MM bridge for my now flat layout. I've gotten to the point of wanting to screw down my current layout. I wasn't happy with trying to do an overpass with ind. supports in the past and had ruled out an elevation. An Aurora country bridge would be the ticket. I also have to wonder how the different HO chassis would handle it??

One of the guys in our sports car and Indy car leagues has a track with a hump bridge built into it. We basically have to handle it like a turn, i.e. do a good bit of braking for it. We've run 440X2s, Turbos and Super G+ cars over it with no problems other than those which were driver-induced, like launching over the landing.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/TurtleCreekPark.JPG

'doba

roadrner
08-18-2007, 06:56 PM
Always makes the run interesting doesn't it. My first L&J track back in the late 60's had four different levels and it was always interesting trying to keep them in the slot on the way down the hill much less as you were going up. :) rr

twolff
08-18-2007, 09:42 PM
Thanks for the info guys. With 12" of adapter track on each side of the bridge, that's going to require a rather unique approach to where the cross over takes place. Anyone know the overall length of the MM bridge in the pic that 'doba posted above?? That's the one I've got my eye on.

tjd241
08-18-2007, 09:48 PM
My .02... I like the specialty sections. Bridges/Cobbles/Humptydoos/ Hairpins/etc. In the right situations they provide a degree of difficulty to a layout and present different challenges to different kinds of cars. Not all cars handle these things the same. Keeps things interesting... especially on a smaller layout where it takes less time to turn a lap.

BTW: Mr. Doba... I love that shot of the four lane bridge. I never thought about it until now, but I've never seen a 4 laner before!! Guess I never thought there was one cause I always had 2 lane track. I did integrate a bridge with some 1st generation afx track though (in the late 70's). The 4 is nice!! Can't somebody invent a wayback machine??? I miss childhood. :(

nuther

Grandcheapskate
08-18-2007, 09:54 PM
One of the guys in our sports car and Indy car leagues has a track with a hump bridge built into it. We basically have to handle it like a turn, i.e. do a good bit of braking for it. We've run 440X2s, Turbos and Super G+ cars over it with no problems other than those which were driver-induced, like launching over the landing.
'doba

You really have no trouble getting all different chassis to go over the bridge track? I remember when I got my first G-Plus back in the 70s. I put it on the track, got to the bridge and SPLAT!; there it sat. Never could get the G-Plus over that bridge.
I think a few years ago as I was setting up my track again using the old MM track, I put in a half-bridge. If I remembr correctly, the only Tyco car I could get to work on it were the Hoppers.
The bridge track is standard 9" for each piece - overall length 18".

Joe

1976Cordoba
08-18-2007, 11:01 PM
You really have no trouble getting all different chassis to go over the bridge track?

Joe

Yeah -- no real problems at all except if someone goes a little too slow. Then they might get high-sided at the top of the hill. Everyone I race against is a throttle junkie, however, so it is usually not a problem after the first couple of recon laps.

I think most everyone is running BSRT .250 hubs and we use PVT-01 Wizzard slip-ons as our spec tires, so the chassis aren't dragging too low either.

'doba

Grandcheapskate
08-19-2007, 09:10 PM
Yeah -- no real problems at all except if someone goes a little too slow. Then they might get high-sided at the top of the hill.
'doba

Doba,
That picture of your track shows Aurora MM track, and it looks like it just came out of the factory. All my Aurora MM track shows a lot of wear on the center white line and some fading of the black surface, and doesn't look anywhere near as good as yours in that picture.
Has that track been repainted?

Thanks...Joe

Scafremon
08-19-2007, 09:14 PM
Thats a great picture doba. That pic alone makes me want to landscape my track.

1976Cordoba
08-20-2007, 05:36 PM
Doba,
That picture of your track shows Aurora MM track, and it looks like it just came out of the factory. All my Aurora MM track shows a lot of wear on the center white line and some fading of the black surface, and doesn't look anywhere near as good as yours in that picture.
Has that track been repainted?

Thanks...Joe

I don't know for sure if the line has been re-painted or not -- I don't *think* it was.

I do know that the guy who owns the track purchsed both old and new MM track when he built it. The new stuff had non-magnetic rail and he had a b**** of a time swapping it out for magnetic stuff as I remember.

Maybe some of the stuff in the pic is new track pieces.

His track is outstanding in the level of landscaping and detailing. Lots of attention to detail.

'doba

Grandcheapskate
08-20-2007, 08:19 PM
I do know that the guy who owns the track purchsed both old and new MM track when he built it. The new stuff had non-magnetic rail and he had a b**** of a time swapping it out for magnetic stuff as I remember.

'doba

Ahh, I forgot all about the new track produced by Model Motoring. That would be the track with non-magnetic stainless steel. Whichever it is, it looks great.

Joe

jimbo-slots
08-20-2007, 08:38 PM
Doba,
Any chance you can post more picture of that Track? It does look awsome.

Jim

tjd241
08-20-2007, 09:02 PM
I'm thinking what Jimbo is thinking... Let's have a few KODAK MOMENTS Doba!! ;) nd

1976Cordoba
08-20-2007, 09:39 PM
I actually don't have a lot of shots of the track but here are a few more with some more details.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/ISF-2006-12-_002.jpg
The track is set in a park that has a creek -- Turtle Creek Park. As such there are campers and fisherman throughout the length of the creek. Where the creek runs under the track the MM culvert track was used, which can be seen partially in this pic. (Note the stricken Jordan at the side of the circuit)

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/IMG_03911.JPG
You might have noticed the fences -- they are nails with thick wire wrapped around and tack-soldered in place. The post were then painted black. Larry said this took F O R E V E R to do the entire circuit.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/ISF-2006-12-_001.jpg
The fences work really well at protecting the scenery (which includes hundreds of HO scale figures and dozens and dozens of trees)
More in a minute.

'doba

1976Cordoba
08-20-2007, 09:43 PM
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/IMG_03761.JPG
Here's a Merc C9 hung up in the fence -- sometimes a wing or fender will get hooked in between the wires. COOL.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/IMG_0393.JPG
Some trackside details evident near one of the culverts.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/IMG_03841.JPG
The GTP feature cars gridded just behind the cobblestone start / finish line.

Wish I had some infield detail shots, it is pretty cool.

'doba

1976Cordoba
08-20-2007, 09:59 PM
OK -- I guess I lied. I found some more pics.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/P1.jpg
Larry, the proud owner / creator if the track. I'm havin' a beer in the back there.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/P.jpg
Overhead shot. Notice where the creek flows and how the track has been built around it. Very neat idea.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/P4.jpg
Campground in the middle. Notice the fishermen and hikers near the creek.

More in a minute.

'doba

1976Cordoba
08-20-2007, 10:05 PM
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/P21.jpg
Not all Denso Toyotas are shelf queens. Larry races his, and I raced one in 2000. I've run the Minolta since 2001. All the turns on this track are either increasing or decreasing radius. Makes it really tough and a lot of work to get around quick.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/P3.jpg
GTP cars whistle through the 'S' at the end of the backstretch. Lots of offs here.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/P5.jpg
GTP Feature cars lined up at the grid again. From left an Acura LMP which made the main, plus the usual batch of GTP cars -- a pair of Toyotas sandwiching a Merc C9.

'doba

T-Jet Racer
08-25-2007, 08:03 PM
Nice track, I hope to have one like it when I grow up, I am 43 now...

tjd241
08-25-2007, 10:03 PM
Thanks for posting the pics. Love the river and park setting too. Must just be an absolute pleasure to drive. I say it all the time but.. if I only had the room.

nuther D

Scafremon
08-25-2007, 10:48 PM
Wow! That is a great slot table. Thanks for finding those pics 'doba.

cagee
08-26-2007, 08:50 AM
I give that track an A.