I was wondering if this was a good find. I got my first Green Machine a couple weeks ago and now I am Green Fever. So This is my recent catch. I had to buy it. Sorry I had to spend $300 to get it. Is this a good catch? I mean I don't care how much it's worth... but is it a car that is rare and sought after?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AMT%3A11&viewitem=&item=260147666611

IMHO that car has turned out to be the sweetest GM ever done. I own one
and have only seen about 10 sold on the bay. It has always been one of the most expensive to buy and was around $120 -140 when it came out last year. Recently they have been going higher and your price paid shows that.
You won't see them going for less than $200. Now you need the MCG Rel One Stang GM's. Enjoy the hunt.

Regards, DrDeal

I was wondering if this was a good find. I got my first Green Machine a couple weeks ago and now I am Green Fever. So This is my recent catch. I had to buy it. Sorry I had to spend $300 to get it. Is this a good catch? I mean I don't care how much it's worth... but is it a car that is rare and sought after?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSA%3AMT%3A11&viewitem=&item=260147666611
First, welcome to the manic world of Green Machine collecting and congrats on getting the Custom Boss 429 :thumbsup:! At the moment, Green Machines are available only at retail in the United States, to those lucky enough to find one in a case they've bought, or as a single on secondary markets like eBay.

The MCG S&C Rel 1 Custom Boss 429 Mustang would have been a great find on the pegs. I agree with Drdealone in that it's the hottest Green Machine made to date. In terms of its rarity, well, it's 1 of only 70 produced worldwide, which is part of the 2% production run of 3,500 "regular" pieces from that series. It's true that it rarely comes up for trade or sale.

You must care a little as to how much it's worth, and must know something about Green Machines, or I suppose you wouldn't have shelled out 300 clams, right :)? That being said, you've definitely bought the right car.

I was lucky enough to trade for mine earlier in the year and can only say I feel lucky to have it. It's definitely the center piece of my Green Machine Mustang collection. This piece will only grow in value in the future, and will probably always be an extremely desireable car. Nice score!

gr6120

Now we need to see someone trade a 95 T Hunt Camaro for that car!
That would make a statement. I just sold 4 of my JC Penney TH sets too finance GM acquisitions. :) The money has to come from somewhere.

DrDeal

Nice find! Sweet GM!

to much for my blood great fine if you can aford it!!!!!

Now we need to see someone trade a 95 T Hunt Camaro for that car!
That would make a statement. I just sold 4 of my JC Penney TH sets too finance GM acquisitions. :) The money has to come from somewhere.

DrDeal

Wow!......you had 4 1995 JC Penney sets! I have 2 1995 JC Penney sets and I thought I was doing good. I have another '95 TH set that I put together, and have 6 of the 12 cars to make a 4th. set (the Camaro is included in the 6 cars that I have for this 4th set). I don't know if I'll ever finish the 4th '95 TH set....I lost interest.

My Holy Grail is a 1/43 scale green 1968 Shelby Mustang GT 500 with certificate made by Brooklin. I've been looking for the car for almost 20 years. Please don't PM me on the blue '68 Shelby Mustang GT 500, I already have 3 of them.

I did not have 4 95 Penney sets. I had all 12 TH Box sets. One from 95 through 2006 plus three Nascar Hunt Boxes.

DrDeal

Thanks so much for all your input. Now I feel better about buying the car. I just thought it looked so cool. And I missed out on a chance to get one before. So I was willing to spend as much as it took to get it. I am glad now. Thanks again for all your resonses!

Thanks so much for all your input. Now I feel better about buying the car. I just thought it looked so cool. And I missed out on a chance to get one before. So I was willing to spend as much as it took to get it. I am glad now. Thanks again for all your resonses!

If you paid $500 for the car and it makes you happy, it's worth it! Buying something for shear enjoyment, or something you can use (a 1:1 car, boat, gun, even a lawn mower) without expecting the value of the item to go up in value should be expected. If the item does go up in value, that's a bonus. Nevertheless, if it doesn't go up in value, and you bought it because you really liked it, it doesn't matter what the value is in a month, 10 years, or longer.

You can loose a lot more than $300 gambling, and have nothing to show for it!

Happy collecting!............STUTZ :wave:

That car is listed again by another seller due to the high price of your win. Now let's see what happens this time. Should be interesting.

DrDeal

I saw that! Another one is listed. Last time I checked it was $265. But had a long time to go before the auction ended. Watching it to see how high she goes. I should get mine in a week. And thanks STUTZ.

Well, the auction ended ... at $290 :cool:. And intererestingly enough, the winning bidder was, I believe, our very own Joe ("cool" on HT), who many of us know as having one of the biggest -- if not the biggest -- GM collection of anyone. Congrats on the big win Joe :thumbsup:!

$290 Green Machine MCG S&C S1 Custom Mustang Boss 429 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130144821867&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:12)

As GL is compelled to produce increasingly more pieces per casting per series, I can only see this particular Green Machine holding or increasing in value. Congrats to those lucky enough to have gotten this sweet-looking car.

Cheers,
gr6120

If Joe Cool is buying that car for $290 when he already has at least two, then he must feel it is bound for $400- 500 territory. My two cents.

DrDeal

If Joe Cool is buying that car for $290 when he already has at least two, then he must feel it is bound for $400- 500 territory. My two cents.

DrDeal
It's hard to know what a person must feel, or what motivates them to suddenly spend increasingly high amounts of $$$ on certain items -- but we do see this type of activity frequently on the secondary die cast market, and it's often by the same bidders who have a tendancy to bid high anyway ;). It's harder still to know which way values will go with specific die cast pieces, and it's anyone's best guess anyway since the market is volatile and tempered by hype and a group mentality. I can't speak for others, but a mere "feeling" or whim about a car's possible future value would probably not prompt me to spend an inordinate sum for it at auction. I don't have that luxury anyway. There will always be those who like getting into a bidding war, and putting a few of those folks into the auction ring together does have the effect of driving the price of certain cars through the roof temporarily -- although it's not a true sign of market value.

With this particular car, it would seem that one auction was bid up uncharacteristically high, and then other people who owned the same car started getting on the bandwagon to sell theirs too. Other bidders who see the auctions suddenly say, "Hey, this is a really rare and valuable car that's worth $300," and then bid up to the same amount or higher. And so the cycle continues. Before this happened, the GM Custom Boss 429 had been most recently selling in the $130-$150 range. That it should suddenly jump in value by around $150 a couple of months later is extreme and, I believe, the result of bidders caught up in the heat of the moment.

Unless the majority of GM Custom Boss 429 Mustangs were, for example, destroyed by everyone who had one, which is improbable, it would make little sense for this piece to increase much more in value unless future bidders drive the price up further because of hype. IMHO, this is not a $300 car. It is, after all, 1/70 like so many of the other GMs -- even if it is a sweet-looking piece. That being said, I'm sure no one expected the HW 1995 T-Hunt Camaro to reach the value it has today, so it's all just open to speculation anyway.

Don't get me wrong: the Custom Boss 429 is by and large the centerpiece of my own GM collection and my favorite Green Machine to date (I'm a Mustang fan). But, I'll tell ya ... if the car ever crossed over into $500+ territory (with the same people paying that price, no doubt), it would be hard not to consider parting with it ;). And that, my good doctor, is simply my own two cents :hat:.

Cheers,
gr6120

Castings go through periods of inflated value. GM are becoming more Mainstream.

So here is what we do. We pick another mustang. We get together as many as we can, then we start bidding them up on E Bay so the price becomes inflated. Then we start to dump our castings on E bay. By buying and selling we can manipulate the market.

The Hunt brothers did it, why can't we........Oh wait the Hunt brothers failed in the end.

It's hard to know what a person must feel, or what motivates them to suddenly spend increasingly high amounts of $$$ on certain items -- but we do see this type of activity frequently on the secondary die cast market, and it's often by the same bidders who have a tendancy to bid high anyway ;). It's harder still to know which way values will go with specific die cast pieces, and it's anyone's best guess anyway since the market is volatile and tempered by hype and a group mentality. I can't speak for others, but a mere "feeling" or whim about a car's possible future value would probably not prompt me to spend an inordinate sum for it at auction. I don't have that luxury anyway. There will always be those who like getting into a bidding war, and putting a few of those folks into the auction ring together does have the effect of driving the price of certain cars through the roof temporarily -- although it's not a true sign of market value.

With this particular car, it would seem that one auction was bid up uncharacteristically high, and then other people who owned the same car started getting on the bandwagon to sell theirs too. Other bidders who see the auctions suddenly say, "Hey, this is a really rare and valuable car that's worth $300," and then bid up to the same amount or higher. And so the cycle continues. Before this happened, the GM Custom Boss 429 had been most recently selling in the $130-$150 range. That it should suddenly jump in value by around $150 a couple of months later is extreme and, I believe, the result of bidders caught up in the heat of the moment.

Unless the majority of GM Custom Boss 429 Mustangs were, for example, destroyed by everyone who had one, which is improbable, it would make little sense for this piece to increase much more in value unless future bidders drive the price up further because of hype. IMHO, this is not a $300 car. It is, after all, 1/70 like so many of the other GMs -- even if it is a sweet-looking piece. That being said, I'm sure no one expected the HW 1995 T-Hunt Camaro to reach the value it has today, so it's all just open to speculation anyway.

Don't get me wrong: the Custom Boss 429 is by and large the centerpiece of my own GM collection and my favorite Green Machine to date (I'm a Mustang fan). But, I'll tell ya ... if the car ever crossed over into $500+ territory (with the same people paying that price, no doubt), it would be hard not to consider parting with it ;). And that, my good doctor, is simply my own two cents :hat:.

Cheers,
gr6120
Well, here we go ... I was just chatting via PM with a guy on HWC who's been trying (unsuccessfully so far) to trade off his GM Custom Boss 429, too, in the heat of all this price-inflated hype. It seems to him that people just aren't making him a "fair" offer for what he's now calling a "$300 car," simply because of the two last auctions he's seen for it. He told me he's thinking of throwing it on the Bay. I told him to go for it while people are still digging into their deep pockets and shelling out lots o' cash for this car. Ladies and gentlemen, do we hear $350? $400? $500? Let's sit back and watch the games begin. This should start getting interesting as more and more people with this car come out of the woodwork to sell theirs too. Oooh, I just love a good bidding war :wave:!

Mine is staying right where it is. Firmly nestled amongst it many Mustang
brothers.

Regards, DrDeal

A $4 car welling for $300+ is CRAZY, If someone can get it thats fine but it ain't a $300 car anyway you slice it. I think most guys here would rather trade cars. I have a GM Camaro and if someone wants to offer $300 for it they can send me a PM.

I saw that! Another one is listed. Last time I checked it was $265. But had a long time to go before the auction ended. Watching it to see how high she goes. I should get mine in a week. And thanks STUTZ.

You are welcome ABee1000! Considering you have a "Holy Grail" GM, I don't think $300 is overpriced for a car that is 1 of 70. When you think about a 1 of 10,000 Hot Wheels 1995 TH Camaro that has been $300+ for several years, your GM 1969 BOSS Mustang is a bargain. Sure, it's supply and demand, and there are more Hot Wheels collectors, but if Green Machines become more sought in the years to come, I doubt if you will loose money on the car you bought for $300.

All invests are a gamble, but when it's a hobby that brings you enjoyment, the price seems to be justified. :thumbsup:

Have a Great Weekend!............STUTZ :wave:

Well, I wasn't expecting such a response. That pretty much shut's me up. Well done! It is a lot of money for such a car. Just glad I got my hands on it while I could. Now... I hope others get a nice home to go to. Thanks!

I love the whole gambling justification too... my friend just went to Vegas and lost $2500. Has nothing to show for it. So ya really hit home with that one. All in a good day. "All invests are a gamble, but when it's a hobby that brings you enjoyment, the price seems to be justifited." Love it... Atleast if it doesn't obtain any further value, I will be able to sleep at night. Guess I was just looking reasoning on why I just spent that for such a car. But you are right... I enjoy it. Thanks so much for everyone's input.

If you collect as an investment you will always end up loosing money.

I started collecting toys years ago becasue I was going to bars, doing drugs and getting into ALOT of trouble. Mostly Star Wars to start. Then I found diecast! Let me tell you, I would spend $6 ANYDAY over a pack of cigarettes. I'd spend more than that for a toy car than any drug too! I still drink(but it is social and not an issue) and def don't look down at anyone for their particular vice! I just have found in MY life that yes, I can get a "fix" and still get soemthing back! Buy what you want- it's your money. Anytime anyone asks you-"what's it worth?", you might have a few answers BUT you have 1 absolutly 100% true answer for them-"that depends on how much I can get". You could have 2 GM's that you want to sell. Put one on ePay on Monday. Put the other up on Wed. You could get $10000 for the first and $4 for the next. You NEVER know who is looking to spend their money just to say "look what I got!". Ramble Ramble Ramlbe. hahaha.

I just read my last post. Just to make it clear- I collect diecast cars now! I am clean and happy that way!

I see this all the time, a car comes up for auction that you don't see very often,it gets bid up next thing you know 2 or 3 more get listed but only a few bidders and usually its not the ones who didn't win on the first auction.:confused: Could it be they decided it wasn't worth it or are they just playing?How many times have you bid on something that you knew you weren't really trying to win? :rolleyes:

Well, here we go ... I was just chatting via PM with a guy on HWC who's been trying (unsuccessfully so far) to trade off his GM Custom Boss 429, too, in the heat of all this price-inflated hype. It seems to him that people just aren't making him a "fair" offer for what he's now calling a "$300 car," simply because of the two last auctions he's seen for it. He told me he's thinking of throwing it on the Bay. I told him to go for it while people are still digging into their deep pockets and shelling out lots o' cash for this car. Ladies and gentlemen, do we hear $350? $400? $500? Let's sit back and watch the games begin. This should start getting interesting as more and more people with this car come out of the woodwork to sell theirs too. Oooh, I just love a good bidding war :wave:!

Adam,
If it's the one that was just on over there along with a series 1 custom gto, then I am the one who's trading for them and although if I were to sell the 9 bus's I'm sending him, I'd probably get a little more then 300 for them, but it don't matter to me for a couple reasons. 1st, they were all extra's that I recently picked up for 5 a piece at a yard/garage sale {45 into them}. 2nd, I'd MUCH rather trade off 9 items that I only have 45 into than pay 300 plus to get both. 3rd, I actually needed both of them.
Look for a MAJOR update to my photobucket albums soon {prolly a week}, over at glg.com {GreenMan67} and here too.
Regards, Jon

ThuntBoss,

Sounds like you made a sweet trade. Congrats and enjoy your GM's.

DrrDeal

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:thumbsup: :wave:

GEW
GREENLAND (http://p092.ezboard.com/fwwwsnehwcomfrm53)

Adam,
If it's the one that was just on over there along with a series 1 custom gto, then I am the one who's trading for them and although if I were to sell the 9 bus's I'm sending him, I'd probably get a little more then 300 for them, but it don't matter to me for a couple reasons. 1st, they were all extra's that I recently picked up for 5 a piece at a yard/garage sale {45 into them}. 2nd, I'd MUCH rather trade off 9 items that I only have 45 into than pay 300 plus to get both. 3rd, I actually needed both of them.
Look for a MAJOR update to my photobucket albums soon {prolly a week}, over at glg.com {GreenMan67} and here too.
Regards, Jon
Jon,

No idea if it was the same guy, or car -- but even if it were, you don't need to offer an explanation for your actions. I've seen you going after most GMs up for trade and all the power to you, bro. Regardless, I agree with you ... would much rather trade than buy any day. In fact, I've been lucky enough to trade for every single GM I own, which is almost every '69/'70 Mustang that GL has produced to date. Truth be told, I simply don't have the extra $$ to buy what I need, so I've had to get very lucky and be patient with accumulating trade bait. I have a healthy respect for the sprawling GM collection of several of our fellow HT/HWC members. Unlike some others, I've been collecting only certain castings, rather than every single GM out there, and I couldn't be happier with what I have. Don't think I'll be posting pics of my collection any time soon, though. There are already plenty of others with bigger collections than mine, and everyone knows what a GM looks like by now without me adding to the photo show.

Adam

Agreed. There's even folks on eBay now stating the fact that GL is no longer identifying Green Machines with the words "Green Machine" so they are harder to spot by the scalpers. Not anymore I guess.