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frankenstyrene
07-27-2007, 10:43 AM
By William Katz, former talent coordinator for Carson's Tonight Show (and lots of other stuff too):

I've done two posts on The Tonight Show. I'll get back to the Carson era, but thought readers might be interested in some comments on Hollywood -– the film industry, where I've been a prisoner of conscience for years. My role in Hollywood has been as a supplier of what is termed, "underlying material." Mr. Dickens, Mr. Hemingway, Moses, you too are suppliers of "underlying material." The term applies to books, stories and Commandments that are translated into screenplays, and occasionally into movies. As I've found out, very occasionally.

I've had more than 20 options. Let me explain: An option is the way Hollywood acquires most material. A company gives a writer a fee, maybe 10 percent of the purchase price, with a promise to pay the rest - "exercise the option" - after a set period, if they decide to make the film. Only about 11 percent of feature-film options are ever exercised. The ratio is better with TV movies, but the TV movie industry is moribund. The chances of selling a TV movie today are about the same as the chances of finding a pro-lifer at a Women in Film meeting.

While your book or story is under option, you're "in development," or, as it's usually called, development hell. This has been compared to a young mother being in labor for a year. The producers try to develop a script that vaguely resembles your story, or to attach "elements" -- a director, a star, some guy's girl friend, some guy's boy friend, that can enhance the chances of the film being made.

It's a kind of agony, but that doesn't mean people are unpleasant. The contradiction of Hollywood, as Mel Brooks put it, is that "they kill you with nice." They love you, they love your wife, they love your dog, they love your book ("adored it"), they love everything about you ("great briefcase"), and then...nothing happens. One of my mentors, the superb producer David Brown ("Jaws"), once remarked that it's amazing any film ever gets made. There are so many forces pulling in so many directions.

Wait. Is this, you ask, the industry that gave us "Gone With the Wind," "Casablanca," and "Singin' in the Rain"? No, it isn't. The question I'm asked most often is, "What went wrong out there?" Why do we see on the screen the self-absorbed mess that we too often see? From my time in development hell, let me try to answer, maybe with some fresh notions.

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There's a story about the great director, Alfred Hitchcock, that illustrates what's happened to our movies. Hitchcock was lecturing to film students in Los Angeles. The subject was "Rear Window," a Hitch classic. One student rose with a question. "Mr. Hitchcock," he asked, and the quote is approximate, "the scene where they dig up the dead dog in the courtyard -- wouldn't it have been more logical, Mr. Hitchcock, if the killer had buried the dog far from there, away from the murder scene?" Hitchcock simply stared at the kid and asked, "Young man, did a chill go up your spine when they dug up that dog?" The student replied, "Oh yes, Mr. Hitchcock." So Hitchcock explained, "That's why I did it."

That's why he did it. He did it because Alfred Hitchcock knew what business he was in. He was in the entertainment business. His job was to give us two hours of stylish suspense –- not to sell us his political opinion, change the world, or follow the logic of English 101. He directed movies, not "cinema." And we loved them.

In Hitchcock's prime we had studios that actually made films. They had under contract actors, directors, writers, everyone needed to make a movie. Some derided the studios as "film factories," but that's exactly what they were. They made movies, nothing else. They knew what business they were in, and they had a feel for their audience. No, not every film was classic, and there were justified complaints about dictatorial studio regimes, but a remarkable number of great movies came out of that system. It was the movie business.

There must have been something electric about working in the Writers Building at MGM in that era. Not only could writers consult with each other, but they could go to one corner and find Arthur Freed, producer of the MGM musicals, or another and visit Roger Edens, the studio's musical genius. The meetings must have been major events.

Those studios also ran superb schools, to turn young talent into stars. I recall, once, watching Marilyn Monroe walk across a room. She had the carriage, to cite an earlier story in this post, of a West Point cadet. It hadn't come naturally. She'd been taught. When I worked on the Tonight Show, I saw that training come out constantly, even in the way stars handled interviews. A major singer told me that she'd accepted an MGM contract, with no guarantee of large roles, just to attend the studio schools.

Studios today are, as one producer friend called them, "plaster palaces." They're ATM machines for producers. They finance films, and they have facilities, but they don't make movies. Can you imagine Steve Jobs, at Apple Computer, having to negotiate an individual contract with every person he needed to create the iPod? That's the way things are in Hollywood today.

The result has been vastly inflated costs, enormous delays, exhausting rounds of negotiations that take time away from making movies, and a general destruction of spirit. In the days of real studios, a screenwriter could be assigned to a project in an afternoon. I've seen it take eight months.

The upshot: A common line in the industry is that Hollywood doesn't shoot movies today, it shoots deals. Yes, there are fine films still being made. And there are TV series with the creativity of "24." But the small number of good, entertaining films, contrasted with the vast costs, has driven audiences away and placed the industry in jeopardy.

The modern, chaotic system has also had a number of other effects, which I'll discuss in later posts. I'll sign off, though, by noting that the greatest complaint I hear from friends in the business is that, more and more, they're working with people who have little interest in their work.

They used to call the studios "dream machines." Now, it seems, the greatest dream of many young executives is to have lunch at a new, trendy restaurant.

How very sad.

frankenstyrene
07-27-2007, 10:45 AM
continued...

In my recent post on what I've found in Hollywood, I mentioned Alfred Hitchcock and his classic, "Rear Window." I also raised the question, "What went wrong in Hollywood?" To provide some answers, consider this imaginary scene, played out in a studio executive's office. The time is now. Alfred Hitchcock, rotund and dour, enters, sits down, and faces what one comedy writer likes to call "a fetus in a three-piece suit."

STUDIO EXEC: Uh, nice meeting you, Mr. Hitchcock.

HITCH: Of course.

STUDIO EXEC: Let's get right to the point. Your script - "Rear Window" -- look, it's not for us.

HITCH: Oh? Why?

STUDIO EXEC: Why? Please, Mr. Hitchcock, look at the plot. A man smart enough to pay New York apartment prices kills his wife. That's a red flag, right there.

HITCH: People kill spouses all the time.

STUDIO EXEC: But, Mr. Hitchcock, we have no-fault divorce. Why would he kill her?

HITCH: Because no-fault divorce doesn't make a movie.

STUDIO EXEC: Then he does a lot of suspicious things and –- I can't believe this got by you -- leaves the blinds open so some guy across the courtyard, who happens to be in a wheelchair, sees him. Oh, come on.

HITCH: Don't you want to know what the man in the wheelchair does?

STUDIO EXEC: Well, sure, but...And another thing: This man has a wealthy girl friend who helps him figure it out, and actually gets into the killer's apartment. Mr. Hitchcock, a modern woman would hire someone, like a lawyer.

HITCH: So the lawyer gets into the apartment and risks being caught? Who would care?

STUDIO EXEC: Bottom line, it doesn't speak to me. Well, I've got a meeting in five minutes. Thanks for coming in. If you have something else for us...

HITCH: I'll be sure to look.

STUDIO EXEC: Oh, Mr. Hitchcock, before you go, I didn't have time to read your credits. What have you done?

HITCH: Young man...you first.

Now, clearly, that meeting never took place, but it's a slightly overdrawn version of meetings that do take place every day in today's Hollywood. They reflect the problem that I call TMCG –- too many college graduates, of whom, I freely admit, I'm one. The industry dare not speak its name, and it's rarely, if ever, discussed in these terms. But everyone knows the problem: To a large degree, Hollywood, in its executive ranks, has replaced talent with education, and what you get is the scene described above, where all the life, the emotion, the entertainment value of a story is ripped out, replaced with analysis and more analysis.

Don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not saying that higher education automatically makes someone a bad filmmaker. There are wonderful artists who've had fine educations. Richard D. Zanuck went to Stanford. The late Jack Lemmon held a Harvard degree. But young people, in particular, are very much affected by the way they're taught to think in college –- and that approach has nothing to do with making movies.

The Duke of Wellington reportedly said that the Battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton. The movies of today were written in the classrooms of Princeton. But it's highly unlikely that a 2007 Princeton graduate would imagine anyone singin' in the rain. He'd take a cab. And by the way, Mr. Kelly, the umbrella is held over the head, to keep us dry.

Mitchell Parish was one of our greatest lyricists -- "Star Dust," "Moonlight Serenade," "The Stars Fell on Alabama." Some years ago he was honored in New York. He came out before the concert began and spoke to members of the audience. He said, "When you hear my lyrics, don't analyze them, feel them." It's wonderful advice for anyone in entertainment, but not the kind of advice you get in English 101. "Hollywood," David Lean, the British director of "Lawrence of Arabia," said, "forgot how to tell stories." It forgot because Hollywood forgot how to feel. When Bogart says goodbye to Ingrid Bergman at the airport in "Casablanca," we feel it, we don't analyze it.

And how would "Casablanca" fare in today's Hollywood? Not too long ago a local reporter sent out the script of the movie, under a different title.

Almost no one recognized it.

The TMCG problem has another effect. It separates Hollywood from its audience. A talent agency head boasted that half his interns come from Ivy League schools. Well, that's wonderful, and I'm sure they're good, intelligent young people. But I've seen that, too often, they don't think of themselves as the audience. The audience is "those people out there."

Sometimes they're called "the flyover people," those who live between Los Angeles and New York. Many young staff members in Hollywood today would never choose to see the films their studios finance.

An industry is, ultimately, its hiring practices. And the hiring practices of Hollywood resemble those of investment banking, not entertainment. A friend of mine, himself a Harvard graduate, quit the industry, saying, "I got tired of working with people who see movies as just a glamorous alternative to Wall Street." Anyone who takes meetings in the film business today knows exactly what he means.

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Oh, by the way, I said that the short scene I wrote at the start of this piece never happened. Well, let me come clean. It kind of did -– but not to Alfred Hitchcock. It involved Fred Zinnemann, one of our greatest directors -- "High Noon," "From Here to Eternity," "A Man for All Seasons," "The Day of the Jackal." Not long before his death he met with a young studio guy who did in fact ask him what he'd done. Zinnemann, the story goes, stared down the kid and finally replied, "You first." There is no record of the answer. It had to be brief.

chiangkaishecky
07-27-2007, 10:49 AM
People who hate Hollyweird, or whatever cute slur they wanna use, gotta stop consuming the product ... that'll learn 'em.

frankenstyrene
07-27-2007, 10:53 AM
So Forry Ackerman hated and slurred Hollywood?

SteveR
07-27-2007, 11:15 AM
Nice posts.

You know, some of those studio exec questions sound like the Trek Tech questions we see on the Internet. Same mindset.

(dons asbestos underwear)

RonH
07-27-2007, 01:09 PM
The late, great Shelley Winters told of a similar situation as the beginning of post #2, I think on The Actor's Studio, that happened a few years before she died. There was a role for an older woman that a studio was calling in older female stars to read for - an insult to begin with since the actresses were stars in their time. She sat down before a male in his early 20's who clearly had no idea who she even was. He pumped up the part for a few minutes then dared to ask her what she had done professionally. I believe she stood up and left - wish I could remember the story as she told it because she made a powerful point.

The point being, and I've read this in many places as well as hearing older writers tell of being replaced by 20-something kids who have no life experience to draw from in order to tell even a good story. So you get lightweight 'movies' like Flintstones, Scooby Doo, and moron movies with Adam Sandler and Jack Black instead of the "Gone With The Winds" and "Casablancas" that become classics over time - unlike anything Turner absurdly claims are "the new classics". :mad: Marketing mentality also brings you the Lindsey Lohan's and the Spears sisters - just names and boobs instead of talented professionals. Creative people were replaced beginning in the 60's with MBAs and marketing majors who haven't a creative or talented bone in their balance sheet infused bone - nor do they care. Making a deal with the China subsidiary is more important than making another "Wuthering Heights".

Trek is now just another Scooby Doo. No thanks.

F91
07-27-2007, 01:15 PM
A microcosm of society, capitalism and business "LEADERS". If you think this mindset is unique to Hollywood, you haven't been paying attention.

RonH
07-27-2007, 01:37 PM
I agree with the first sentence. I never said any such thing as the second.

PerfesserCoffee
07-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Great point, F91!

Another problem is the industry itself spending money instead of creating.

I always think of the elaborate planet village set for ST:Insurrection and the pride Frakes took in it when it did absolutely nothing for the movie that a matte painting and some studio sets couldn't have done. Millions of dollars wasted for a terrible movie. :cry:

frankenstyrene
07-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Please leave all political comments out of this thread or I will ask the mod to delete it entirely.

F91
07-27-2007, 01:59 PM
RonH, Never said you did mate.
It's just odd that Hollywood get's singled out for a problem that is endemic to the United States. Not that you are doing that either....
I agree with the first sentence. I never said any such thing as the second.

F91
07-27-2007, 02:01 PM
Ummm... I'm on double secret probation. I dare you to quote anything that I have said that is political. Everything I've stated has been from a business perspective. "Hollywood" and movie making are a business.

Please leave all political comments out of this thread or I will ask the mod to delete it entirely.

Ohio_Southpaw
07-27-2007, 03:27 PM
The shift occurred in Hollywood when they relinquished contol to the businessmen instead of those who love the craft. When the bottom dollar and the Almighty god Profit became the driving factor behind movies instead of story and craft, that is when we get the refuse that is pumped out these days.

terryr
07-27-2007, 05:00 PM
Hollywood is where everyone drinks bottled water because 'peasant water' isn't good enough.
And this thinking extends to everything. Buy a custom motorbike and park it in the garage, instead of a cheap one you can ride for fun. Drive a 4 wheel truck on paved streets because everyone else is doing it, and never go out of the city, let alone off roading.
With twisted second guessing thinking like that how would they know how to make a movie?

Carson Dyle
07-27-2007, 05:34 PM
Although I agree with many of the sentiments expressed in Mr. Katz's post, the dangers of placing too much faith in the Best & the Brightest (be they corporate or governmental) is certainly nothing new. Hollywood, Detroit and Washington all have a great deal in common.

With regard to the movies, with very few exceptions, the marketplace drives the product, and not the other way around.

For example, you wanna know what qualifies as quality entertainment around here?

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=189565

As with our political leaders, we get the motion-pictures we deserve.