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bobhch
07-01-2007, 05:14 PM
Well today I found King Kong at the local Kay Bee toy liquidation store (about 5 min. from our house...Yeah I'm lucky that way). There is a button on the back that when pushed lets out a King Kong growl and he moves his arms. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! Plan on making this button on the back a track side switch for easily making it work at a closer reach. Well lots of plans but, first I need to bubble wrap and then plaster the layout like a rocky Las Vegas Desert.

Godzilla has a new girlfriend and is also a Daddy now.

Going to do more work on my layout and post pics as progress happens. Selling off my Eldon 1/32 slot cars to go all the way ho. Gotta plan this layout so King Kong and Godzilla can be moved around from time to time. My plans are to be able to change the scenery around to keep it more interesting. Track will be permanently place for easy cleaning.

Since the name Bobzilla has some how sprung up as my AKA, Godzilla will be the good guy and King Kong is the bad next door neighbor who lets his yard go and has cars parked in the street that leak oil. Ooooh yeah King Kong has bad breath also...yikes!!

My track layout theme is "Welcome to Las Vegas Godzilla" Well the US Army decided to get involved after Bill Hall called in the troops and all havoc is breaking loose in slot car land now.

If it isn't fun then don't do it, Bob

noddaz
07-01-2007, 07:20 PM
nice...
Having fun are we?

Bill Hall
07-01-2007, 08:38 PM
Bob, Yer a nut. Of course it takes one to know one, So I'm LMAO!

How about a reed switch in the track that's wired to Kong. That way the cars will set him off as they pass by. You could wire in a momentary and an interupt at mission control for complete control of your monster monkey.

SplitPoster
07-01-2007, 08:40 PM
As I remember from the movie, two tiny little pixies sang and Mothra came - that seems like the only thing missing. What would a slot car layout be without giant monsters? :thumbsup:

bobhch
07-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Bob, Yer a nut. Of course it takes one to know one, So I'm LMAO!

How about a reed switch in the track that's wired to Kong. That way the cars will set him off as they pass by. You could wire in a momentary and an interupt at mission control for complete control of your monster monkey.

Bill that is a Great idea. Man that will be cool for Kong To move and roar as you pass by. I will do it!

A guy at work always talks about that Mothra scene SplitPoster & I never get tired of hearing about it either. He is a musician of sorts and always remembers weird lyrics and stuff...

noddaz the fun is just beginning. Sure that King Kong will piss Godzilla off and they will have a WWF thing going on sooner or later.

A friend of ours is a computer wiz and is going to help me do some Videos and will link them here. That will be in the not so future though.

As progress is posted here any ideas you guys have will be considered. Hey I think it will be cool to put as much into this as possible and Bill has already provided an idea that is definitely going to be included!

Bob aka: Bobzilla

roadrner
07-03-2007, 10:11 PM
Hey, how do the Marshalls marshall without getting attacked? Do they sign a waiver when you host races? :devil:

Man, I hope they don't break that track when they start throwing each other all over the place. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: rr

sethndaddy
07-03-2007, 10:30 PM
I use to use dungeons and dragons figures all over my slot car track. I like the monsters alot.

bobhch
07-04-2007, 12:20 AM
Well we just lit some fireworks off with our friends and was thinking....What if a few fireworks were used in the movie? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm......"Welcome to Las Vegas Godzilla" with a BANG!!!! Plaster is easily replaced and got a great deal on some bricks of 1" 1/2ers. Yeah Baby!!!

Can you say slot car cult movie. lol Wait that would be the Rocky Horror Slot Car Movie Picture Show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAcr3axxyBY Here is a link to the movies Our Friend Lendog has been making. Set up: Todd and Tyler are a local Rock Radio show here in Omaha, Nebraska and surounding areas. They don't realy care what they say and are kinda crazy. They have other people in the studio also and are all represented as South Park characters. :wave:

Seriously, Bob

Bill Hall
07-04-2007, 01:22 AM
Hopefully you can find a way to sneak a coupla wires into Kong. After somemore thought on the matter; do Kong's arms move in such a manner that you could time the reed activation so da big fella can give the old fore-arm shiver to passing cars?

It'd be a great homefield advantage when your racin'. Even if the reed timing thing didnt work out, a momentary "Bob's losing this race" switch at your driver station would be a gas.

So now I'm wondering about a "Vertibird" and Mothra melding/modeling. Maybe inverted and hangin from the ceiling so it doesnt have to fly proper but still spins convincingly/annoyingly around your layout. Make those overpriced green army men and the Vegas air-traffic controllers earn their keep!

Jeebus Bob yer a bad influence. Good thing we're not neighbors. LOL. Of course that goes for most all the gang here.

bobhch
07-04-2007, 03:21 PM
Bill: Am thinking that Kong's arms will be controlled from a switch mounted near my controller. Have been working on the layout today and have lots of other stuff to do as it is. Maybe at a later date I can go back and figure something out.

Well thought I would let you all in on what I am using for my sculpting stuff. Bubble wrap, masking tape and Sculptamold. Oooooh and am now building a huge retaining wall from broken up drop ceiling tiles....pics later on.

Well my hot glue gun is calling me. This track is going to run very smooth as no short cuts are being taken. Have been supporting my track with many pieces of wood that have been sanded down to the correct height and hot glued in place for a strong structural support system that will all be hidden under Desert rocks.

Picked up an old school war plane that flies on a fishing string from the ceiling to keep Kong busy. Not sure if there is enough room to fly it though. If it hits the wall...."Crash" then I will have to come up with an alternative plan (Bills flying Mothra). Better yet have both Mothra and a plane!

Will be posting pics of "The Wall" as soon as I get it glued up and in place.

Bob

bobhch
08-01-2007, 01:14 AM
Here is my picture of my future ho scale Water Tower...let the Star wars light saber jabs begin. lol

The bottom is a $1.00 Dollar General kids megaphone cut down. The shaft is half of my (free) shop vacs hard plastic nozzle. Now I am looking for a top.

What should I use...very limited budget here. Well I could spend a little money but, hoping that some one will come up with a almost free around the house item to use. Just can't think of anything right off hand now.

I want this to be shaped like a circle on top but, with a bit of the middle taken out giving it an squashed Oval look....any ideas...please!

http://www.image4u.org/bobhch/water1.jpg

If some one comes up with an idea please state yours also!!!!! I Want to explore all the possibilities her. Kinda like 2 flood lights put together with out the long parts but, not glass...ouch, break...Nooooooooooooooooooo

Styroafoam is light and kinda what I am looking for. I would have to shape it and then fill in all those holes....how? Going to paint This all one color when done...it has to look nice! :wave:

Thanks in advance, Bob

P.S. Will keep posting my progress of Godzilla land until it is done. Heck plan a video after it is done....you can't get rid of Godzilla land. It will just keep coming back....and back....and back......................................Forever!

Bill Hall
08-01-2007, 01:27 AM
How about an old school childrens top? Not a dradel with a string, but the flying saucer lookin' one. ' Member Bob? They had a handle that you pushed on a couple of times to rev them up. Seems like I remember them in both tinplate and later plastic versions.

joez870
08-01-2007, 05:58 AM
Hey, Bob! how about 2 icecream bucket lids? slit each one to the center and pull into a cone? tape them together or put a band of heavy paper between?

bobhch
08-01-2007, 06:59 AM
Bill and Joez....O.K. these are good ideas...maybe the top (childrens top) could be found at Goodwill? I can also check the bay for one....I do have money and want this to look just right. Will try to get picture of what this top needs to EXACTLY look like.

Keep them coming, bob...zilla

SplitPoster
08-01-2007, 09:14 AM
Hey Bob, I was looking at the containers blank CDs/DVDs come in, like 25 or so. The base might be useful to work off of too. You would get a cylindrical tower, kind of like the old style Lionel train stuff.

bobhch
08-01-2007, 05:42 PM
Hey Bob, I was looking at the containers blank CDs/DVDs come in, like 25 or so. The base might be useful to work off of too. You would get a cylindrical tower, kind of like the old style Lionel train stuff.

Thanks Split Poster for the input. Looking to make a modern day type Water tower rather than the older type like you are talking about. I have never seen a modern water tower before in ho scale. I am building the first one possibly in the whole entire planet....maybe? maybe not? It will be Sweet all painted up.

I work for a Heating and Air and Plumbing company. Today I was talking to a plumber and Bam IT came to me. Those big floats in your fresh water on your toilet!!

Will post pictures of this construction but, first gotta wait till I get the float.

Gotta think of what name to put on this and check out pictures of real ones to get a good idea of what the whole package should look like done.

bobzilla

bobhch
08-11-2007, 07:54 PM
Well my Water Tower project is in the works...again. I started over and will post pics as the progress takes place.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aturd1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aturd2.jpg

Oooooooh Godzilla...bad boy! Clean up in aisle 3 please...Hurry! :eek:

Bob...zilla

Bill Hall
08-11-2007, 11:04 PM
What!... no corn?

tjd241
08-12-2007, 07:42 AM
It looks like you and godzilla split that large pie with extra cheese, half waffles, and half filet mignon & cornflakes we were talking about the other night after all!!!! :lol: nd

bobhch
08-13-2007, 01:12 AM
Bill do they make fake corn? lol

Nuther Dave I was getting hungry with all that food talk. Actualy Bill was talking about the diet that Robin has him on and I have been staying away from Potatoes ever since and trying to eat healthy food. It is really hard on my brain to think of eating healthy food that taste good....dang I miss french fries and greasy burgers....Aaaaaaaaaaaaah

More to come soon...water tower, other stuff....etc.

Bob...zilla

Bill Hall
08-13-2007, 05:15 AM
Wallmart undoubtedly has little yellow beeds in their crafts aisle!
Perhaps yellow baker's sprinkles from your local grocer???
:p

bobhch
08-15-2007, 03:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd5gWX19Oww&mode=related&search=

sethndaddy
08-15-2007, 08:38 AM
GREAT, a discussion on lizard sh*t on the platform, how long till were all banned for talking about this, LMAO.

bobhch
08-18-2007, 12:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XW_GMA8UAU&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVKySmZ-nPk&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ_T7GnAmrE&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ZNKh_8f58&mode=related&search=

Scafremon
08-18-2007, 12:34 AM
Bob...

You are a freak.

Great videos though. :thumbsup:

bobhch
08-20-2007, 11:09 PM
Well today I painted up my Water Tower for my small track layout. Here is a link on Water Towers of Texas if anyone else is thinking of building one.

http://www.pbase.com/xradiotx/water_towers_of_texas

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater2.jpg

On my larger layout (not even started as I just took down all my 1/32 track down off of my 4 large painted tables in the basement) A more complex Water Tower will be built with a fancy paint job.

Now I gotta decide what name and the such to put on my flat white Master Piece...Hmmmmm what to do, what to do....???

Post pics of it done....when it gets done.

Bob...zilla

cagee
08-21-2007, 09:58 AM
Water tower's looking good.

Slott V
08-21-2007, 11:38 AM
It seems Godzilla gets around. He's always looming around somewhere behind the mountains on my track. Been a spectator for years! :p

http://www.supervipersystems.com/VargoSpeedway/PHOTOS/June2001/emptyparkinglot.jpg

Bill Hall
08-21-2007, 02:13 PM
....

Now I gotta decide what name and the such to put on my flat white Master Piece...Hmmmmm what to do, what to do....??? ....

How about Jack Daniels?

The beverage of choice for fire breathing monsters on the go!

sethndaddy
08-21-2007, 11:42 PM
Well today I painted up my Water Tower for my small track layout. Here is a link on Water Towers of Texas if anyone else is thinking of building one.

http://www.pbase.com/xradiotx/water_towers_of_texas

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater2.jpg

On my larger layout (not even started as I just took down all my 1/32 track down off of my 4 large painted tables in the basement) A more complex Water Tower will be built with a fancy paint job.

Now I gotta decide what name and the such to put on my flat white Master Piece...Hmmmmm what to do, what to do....???

Post pics of it done....when it gets done.

Bob...zilla
Best use of a hopper float I ever seen.lol

bobhch
08-22-2007, 12:02 AM
Water tower's looking good.

Thanks cagee but, I decided to decapitate it and go with the round look instead (see pics at bottom of page). The one with the toilet bulb in picture below just wasn't doing it for me. Now I got a drink base from Vegas (kinda free) and a $3.99 foam ball from the toy store for a low investment Water Tower. Cool!

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater2.jpg

Bill I thought about putting "BEER" on it in black letters but, that is just going to have to be another one of my Trailer stickers. Mooneyes Rule! It is funny you said Jack Daniels because I found that little Jack Daniels Plastic bottle (you know the ones you get on the airplanes) and put it in one of Godzilla hands just last week.

Slot V that track layout is Awesum! I see the little guy hiding out. Looks like you have plenty of parking. Very nice....very nice indeed.

This Monster land is just going to be my test track and then will build the Big One on my 4 tables....4 lanes and long straights with some turns and some more landscape....more landscape....ditto....ditto...this has been a childhood dream of mine for a long time to make a track that looks like you really are some place different. 42 year old kid here! :hat:

The top on the Water Tower just wasn't working for me and when my Wife started laughing at it when I showed her.....oh dang! Tried to convince myself that it was good enough but, I must be true to myself....you guys would say it looks O.K. if it was made out of a Chunky soup can and some tapped on Popsicle sticks. lol

I also need to paint my Gaurd rails silver but, first thing is first. Time to build my tunnel and tie in my Mountain. Major construction here (bought a kit and gonna make it look weathered and stuff). Some of the highs and lows are going to change as I go. The Water Tower needs to go on the highest portion of the layout (it is staying were it is) and the Las Vegas sign (it lights up and blinks...yeah I know...Cool!) and my scratch built Casino (under sign)in the back ground is going to raise up soon with a mountain under it. :cool: Going to do a Vegas Back drop on the Walls also.



http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/awater4.jpg

Yeah it kinda resembles a Golf Ball on a tee but, it's my Golf Ball and my tee. Did lots of research on Water Towers yesterday and they can look like anything as long as they hold water. This thing would cost Millions to make in real life and weigh Tons....yeah now you are impressed! :rolleyes:

Bob...zilla

Bill Hall
08-22-2007, 12:18 AM
Tsk, tsk. Where's the creature from the back lagoon? Conspicuously absent in your recent photo. Spotted one on the bay today and thought about your track. Perhaps a water hazard would be in order.

bobhch
08-22-2007, 12:21 AM
Tsk, tsk. Where's the creature from the back lagoon? Conspicuously absent in your recent photo. Spotted one on the bay today and thought about your track. Perhaps a water hazard would be in order.

Good idea Bill. Right next to the High Voltage Tension Wires...Yeah! :cool:

Going to the bay right now...Hmmm search Monsters....good idea...creature....good, good....Yes!

This is my small layout...do I have room for a lagoon? lol

Bob...zilla

sethndaddy
08-22-2007, 12:28 AM
I can't wait to get going on my platform now. I have a dozen or so Dungeons and Dragons monsters in the "scenery" box.

Dragula
08-22-2007, 12:38 AM
Tsk, tsk. Where's the creature from the back lagoon? Conspicuously absent in your recent photo. Spotted one on the bay today and thought about your track. Perhaps a water hazard would be in order.
Just use Hankster's old avatar pic,that thing scared the hell outta me!
DRAGjet

bobhch
08-25-2007, 11:04 PM
I was inspired by Pat to get my lane colors down today. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=2063268#post2063268 The phone was ringing off the hook, kids wanted candy, Wife wanted to eat....still got it done.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/astripe4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/astripe2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/astripe3.jpg

I wonder if I have enough room for a Corn Flake factory some place?

Now to get some more land scape down, Bob...zilla

bobhch
08-26-2007, 02:15 PM
Here is my base coat for what will all be a rocky layout when done.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/apnt1-1.jpg

Will bring my airbrush down and shadow it and dry brush when all the rock is layed.

The slot car slash/ Monster Movie will come out when this thing gets finished with the help of my friend Len Dog.

Bob...zilla

WesJY
08-26-2007, 03:49 PM
Here is my base coat for what will all be a rocky layout when done.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/apnt1-1.jpg

Will bring my airbrush down and shadow it and dry brush when all the rock is layed.

The slot car slash/ Monster Movie will come out when this thing gets finished with the help of my friend Len Dog.

Bob...zilla

looking good so far!!! about the color lanes - wow!! looks like uni-paint markers do a good job!! i ll have to get some..

Wes

bobhch
08-27-2007, 12:56 AM
This Huge Vegas Black and White is going to be one of my slot car layouts back drops. Right behind the Big Guys.....Thanks pay bay!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220143613506&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=012

Got another back drop for Wall #2 but, will keep that secret for now...beep, beep!

Bob...zilla

Bill Hall
08-27-2007, 03:00 AM
Very cool Bob!

See ya changed your Bay handle! LOL

bobhch
08-28-2007, 07:09 PM
Very cool Bob!

See ya changed your Bay handle! LOL

Hey did you notice that the sign says Gambling Hall. hAH.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/alit1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/alit2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/alit4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/alight1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/alight2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/alight3.jpg

Well a storm is rolling in so I gotta log off. Just wanted to show you all my stop light that I have been working on for the slot room. It is done!!! It was a mess when I found it at the Antique mall. I remade the light covers out of 22 ga. sheet metal and had to re-tap all the brass screws as they were in there for good until I came along.

When I get some more money...going to get this thingy they make to get all the lights to work just like the real deal with Red long, yellow quick and then Green long again....yeah baby!

Bob...zilla

Scafremon
08-28-2007, 11:53 PM
Nice restoration Bob!

Yellow looks like a fun color to paint with.

bobhch
08-29-2007, 01:40 AM
Nice restoration Bob!

Yellow looks like a fun color to paint with.

The kids had fun running around the basement tonight. They liked the light a lot! Have a smaller one that you buy in the store and it blinks. Our Son has that in his room now and guess what? Our Daughter wants one now also. They make me so proud. :)

Fletcher loved the HW video that I found and posted some place in the slot forum. We played it over and over and over.....The stop light in the video that started the race was kinda what the kids were doing in the basement pretty much side by side but, nobody Blew Up..... They are all worn out & sound asleep now!

Scaf I love your Flakes video and see now it is your signature. Sweet! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Bob...zilla

Slott V
08-29-2007, 04:02 PM
You can find aftermarket controllers for your traffic light. I installed one for a friend who "found" a traffic light for his garage. I can't remember what he paid for his but he found it in our area. Here is one I found after a lengthy search:

http://www.crowriver.com/tl/index.htm

-Scott

bobhch
08-30-2007, 12:54 AM
You can find aftermarket controllers for your traffic light. I installed one for a friend who "found" a traffic light for his garage. I can't remember what he paid for his but he found it in our area. Here is one I found after a lengthy search:

http://www.crowriver.com/tl/index.htm

-Scott

Thanks Slott V for the heads up. That is exactly what I had planned on doing. First gotta prioritize...slot cars #1 and this dohicky #2....it will take a while before all the cool slot car bodies have gone away and I can stop buying them all.

I am broke sometimes and when there is money in my wallet...well it gets spent on slot cars rather than dohickys...some day that dohicky will be mine...some day! :)


For now I just plug it in and look at all 3 pretty lights. Slots are #1 and there are a bunch of cool things on the market right now...$$$$$ :cool:
Bob...zilla

bobhch
09-06-2007, 01:49 AM
Well Las Vegas is starting to come into the picture on my layout. The white detail on this black and white poster really POPS with a black light shining on it. Hard to show in pictures what this really looks like.

Now I need to get some black poster board to go around Vegas poster on my back wall to finish it off and maybe add some Vegas pics to the poster board to complete it. Going to raise my blinking (those little lights blink like it is going around in circles and the top changes from small to large star) Welcome to Las Vegas sign up. The white thing under the blinking sign was made out of a large register (I am a HVAC person) that was dug out of the dumpster at work. Will have some sort of clear red or other color plastic inside and lighted up to make one of my Casino buildings. What shall the name of my casino be? Bill gambling Hall? lol maybe

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aavegas1.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aavegas2.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aavegas4.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aavegas3.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aavegas5.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g282/bobhch/aavegas6.jpg

Can you say "rope lights"? ooooh yeah! Pics suck so, will try this again after I get a little more done.

Bob...zilla

Ligier Runner
09-06-2007, 08:04 AM
Lanes look great Bob!! :thumbsup:

I also dig the Vegas thing. That's really cool! :cool:

Dslot
09-06-2007, 01:46 PM
Bob sez:
I want this to be shaped like a circle on top but, with a bit of the middle taken out giving it an squashed Oval look....any ideas...please!
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It's a tough shape, that flattened mushroom/flying-saucer water tank shape.

Try the dollar store, discount store, or thrift shop for a couple of plastic cereal bowls, mixing bowls, or storage bowls.

If you have a buddy with a lathe, he might be able to turn the shape from wood for you.

If all else fails, there's the "pay money" option:

Walthers HO Modern Water Tower, appr 10" tall.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NIB-HO-Walthers-3528-Modern-Water-Tower-Kit_W0QQitemZ320131182521QQihZ011QQcategoryZ19141Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Lionel Water Tower (size unknown, I'd guess 14 - 16 inches)
http://cgi.ebay.com/LIONELVILLE-MODERN-WATER-TOWER-14220_W0QQitemZ170111080887QQihZ007QQcategoryZ481Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

And for a bit more traditional look, perhaps more in keeping with Godzilla and Kong, the good old fun Marx Water Tower (about 14-1/2") with the red light and the lighted bubbling tube:
http://cgi.ebay.com/MARX-WATER-TOWER-RED-LIGHT-ON-TOP-EXCELLENT-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ270162896238QQihZ017QQcategoryZ 19147QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If I recall correctly, these generally go for around fifteen bucks plus postage, unless they're in the box or something. You might wait for a beat-up one to surface for less.

If you don't mind the old-time "cylinder with a conical top" shape, just search WATER TOWER in eBay's TOYS & HOBBIES/MODEL RR., TRAINS category. Lots of them will pop up, some fairly cheap. You might luck out and get one whose red light isn't burned out.

Good luck.
-- D

vaBcHRog
09-06-2007, 04:08 PM
Try the party section of WalMart or Party City or a Cake decorating shop If you look at it close it looks like a balloon. You can buy small ones for Cakes and look at some small kitchen funnels for the bottom.

Roger Corrie

Dslot
09-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Well, don't I feel like a doofus?
I read page 1 of the thread, and got intrigued with the idea of finding a way to do the modern water tower shape. Wrote the reply, and never noticed there was a page 2 and 3, where the problem had been solved and the discussion had moved on.
Sorry for the pointless post. (I'll get the hang of this one day.)
-- D