Just wanted to give everyone an update on our new suspension arms. This project has taken a little longer than expected but the end result will be worth it. We will be getting test samples shortly. I have a few drivers already picked out for testing. When I am happy with the results we will go into full production, not before. IRS is closed till the 10th of May but I will try to keep in contact via e-mails. Again I want to express my thanks for everyone's patience with this project. :wave:

Regards,
Dave "The Diff Dude" Irrgang

What is different about these lower arms from the stock associated?

Thanks

RC

We'll be able to get these in a timely fashion for one thing.

What is different about these lower arms from the stock associated?

Thanks

RC

The same a-arm will work on both sides of the car and they will allow the usage of smaller diameter tires.

-E

The prototypes I saw in Florida were awesome and will be well worth the wait! These new a-arms are able to be used on both the right front and left front. And they are a considerable amount lower than even the lowest current a-arms. Dave has really been doing his homework with these, and I know the end result will be worth it!!!

Keep up the great work Dave!!!! Thanks for everything!!!!

Adam Liehr
Team IRS

They can be used on either side of the car, beside that I don't think any geometry has changed. Knowing Dave it will be a better quality more precision part then what is currently in production by Associated.

Eric, Adam & Mike,

Do you guys call each other to make sure you wear the same colors each day.....lol

Mike,

I heard your new power supplies have massive voltage......lmao!

Here is an update for everyone.
I have the samples for testing in my hands. I will let everyone know how it is going ASAP.

Dave

Eric, Adam & Mike,

Do you guys call each other to make sure you wear the same colors each day.....lol

Mike,

I heard your new power supplies have massive voltage......lmao!

My new power supplies have plenty of voltage now. That's the cheapest 75 and 40 amp power you can ever hope for. $44 for the both of them. I guess it pays to have electrical eng on staff.

Are they operational now?

My new power supplies have plenty of voltage now. That's the cheapest 75 and 40 amp power you can ever hope for. $44 for the both of them. I guess it pays to have electrical eng on staff.

Mr. Fastman, Yes they do work fine now

Mr. Fastman, Yes they do work fine now

Can Doug borrow one on a long term loan? hehehehehe

P.S. looking forward to the new arms Dave!

Hey everyone,
Here is an update on the new arms. First test was last night at a tight carpet track with boards. 3 of us used 1/12th cars with 19t motors. The arms performed very well. They where impact tested frequently by yours truely. Mike Mulherin and Mike Ivy added their impacts also. Mike Ivy had the best when he hit the inside wall then slammed into the outside wall. The impact was so extreme the batteries and speedo where ejected. The arms where just fine. :thumbsup: Between use we did about 8 runs without any problems with the arms.
The next tests are a large asphalt track using a 1/12th car and a 1/10th car at Trax 70, a concrete banked track. I'll keep everyone informed of results.

Dave Irrgang

How do these arms differ from the arms yu are selling on your site right now? Just bought a set of those recently. Thanks Ralf

Ralf,
The arms we presently sell are modified Associated arms. The new arms we ar testing are our own design. They are made to be used on the right or left side. :thumbsup: You only need 1 spare.

Dave

Coooool ! Thanks Ralf

Dave was nice enough to send me a set, All I can say is VERY NICE!

-E

How about a picture.
MV how about a part to try?
Rick<><

The Trax 70 test went great. I ran the Novak 4300 motor. I wall tested the arms several times and added a couple of flips just to make sure and they held up great. :thumbsup: I hope to be testing at Willow Mill this weekend.

Dave

I'll post some pics tonight.

Sorry for the delay on the pictures. It should be up this weekend.

Dave

Willow Mill was a great day of racing. To bad mother nature didn't want us to finish. This is the 3rd track and 3rd different car I have tested the new arms on and the are holding up very well. I tried to knock down the turn 2 wall but it and the new arm proved to be stronger than my lack of talent, thank goodness.
I am waiting for the shims to be made so we can start packaging them. It hopefully will be within 4 weeks.
The testing will continue.

Dave

Dave...........the test will be at Freddies Hobbies in Ohio!!!! The race line for pan cars is about 400ft. Smooth and fast. Mods are hitting speeds of 50mph or better!!!

Later,
Rick Liehr

Rick,
I'm giving serious thoughts to attending that race. :thumbsup:
The testing I've done at Trax 70, old Mega Track, I would say is on par with Freddies. It's around 400' and with my 4300 brushless I've broken the 6 second mark. There is very little room for error.

Dave

Anyone who wants to see a picture of the new arms goto our web site and click on new arms in the new product section. www.TeamIRSrc.com

Dave

If you come up here and beak the 6 second mark in brushless............you would be the man!!! Right now I think the fast lap is 6.3/6.4.

Hope to see ya,
Rick Liehr

Rick,
We do have a slight advantage at Trax 70, the 3 turns are very banked. The down side is when you hit the wall it is a very hard impact. :freak:

Dave

when are you testing at ONTRAX 70 dave I would like to come down and play on the big white monster ....SRM

SMROCKET,
I will be there this coming Sunday wheather permiting. I also plan on running the ORL race next week. Look forward to seeing you.

Dave

Hey everyone,
Testing is done and I am very happy with the results. :)
We hope to be shipping arm kits the week of July 25th. The kit will include 2 arms, shim set (4 0.100" & 4 0.055" thick), and 4 8/32" screws for $9.95. Watch our web site for availability.

Regards, Dave

Dave,

I passed that message on, Did you recieve a Phone call??


Adrian

Adrian,
Yes I talked to her and everything is OK.

Thanks, Dave

Just want to let everyone know the new IRS Lower Suspension Arms are here. We will have them on the web site ASAP. The kit will include 2 arms, 4 0.055" & 4 0.100" thick spacers, & 4 screws. These arms are designed to work on the left or right side of your 1/10th or 1/12th cars. They are designed to replace the Associated lower arm for more adjustability and durability.
I will have them available to the racers at Freddie's this weekend through the hobby store.

Again IRS Is "Making The Best Better"

Dave Irrgang

Sent you an email Dave.

Thanks
EA

ran the new arm this week and all i can say is wow ease of install with pivot balls and the arms are stronger than the stock associated arms(i tested that in turn 3)at easly.good job

hazeracing,
Thank you for the report. :thumbsup: I will be testing my arms also this week there. I am leaving Tuesday morning. :wave:
Dave

see you there,what will you be running brushless?mod?ill be there about 8 or 9 wed.

see you there,what will you be running brushless?mod?ill be there about 8 or 9 wed.

Dave will be running 4300,he will be at the track Weds am.

hazeracer,
I look forward to meeting you.
I will be running 10.5. I have pretty much given up on brushed motors. :tongue: I really like running brushless. :thumbsup:

Dave

Hey Dave, a couple of us are having trouble with the lower arms being too tight with the pivot balls installed. Any tips?


Thanks.

Mike that is easy, use smaller balls!!!!!!!!

MK Race,
My question to you is, are you installing the ball through the large diameter hole? If you are and it is still a little tight you can squeeze the arm with the ball installed with pliers and it will free up the ball. Please don't get nuts with the pliers just be firm when you squeeze it. Let me know how you make out.

Dave

I had a little trouble with them being tight too. They were the KSG balls with the grooves but they seem fine in the Associated arms. I'll try it again with some Associated balls.

Mach10,
Do the plier trick with your KSG pivot balls it should work.
What it does is help confrom the plastic around the pivot ball if it is alittle larger than normal.

Dave

Thanks Dave, I'll give it a try.


AJ, Bob had no problem, must be the smaller balls.:D

be very careful when using pliers on the ksg grooved pivot balls. they can crack..they are made of some other material and do not have alot of give. the pivot ball tool irs sells does come in handy.

btw i love the new arms and side shocks! keep on keeping on.

Katfish,
Thanks for letting me know the KSG pivot balls are kind of fragile. I had assumed they where aluminum, my bad.
I do recommend using our IRS1376 pivot ball tool. I've had people tell me they used pliers to install the pivot ball. This will deform the ball and cause problems. :cry:

Dave

I do have one of those tools. I think it works great!

For what it's worth. the KSG are made a little bit oversized to compensate for the "loose" tolerances of an associated arm. It seems Dave's arms are a little smaller to compensate for the "loose" tolerences of the associated balls. Both are great products but just don't seem to work very well together...

P.S. KSG pivot balls are teflon impregnated plastic. One option might be to take a little material off the balls with very fine grit sandpaper. bolt, nut, dremel.

dave packaged received thanks for great service and fast delivery!!! order wed get it thursday!!!