Hi Everyone -

Sorry for any miscommunication and misunderstanding concerning our Green Machines. Hopefully the information below will be clear to everyone.

Green Machines are 2% of our 1:64 scale production run. It has always been this way. This 2% works out to 1 Green Machine per 50 cars, as you know our cases consist of 48 cars, thus some cases are left without a Green Machine. If we guaranteed a Green Machine in every case this would up the 2% and not make the Green Machines as rare. We want to keep everyone as happy as possible, but we also want to ensure the exclusivity of the Green Machines.

Thanks for all of your support and keep the comments coming! We are listening!

Katie@GREENLIGHT

Thanks for clearing that up - too bad I learned the hard way! What is production up to now on the MCG Series 3 cars anyway?

Franky

What is production up to now on the MCG Series 3 cars anyway?

Franky
Thanks for the great info, Katie, and good question, Franky. I was just wondering the same thing myself. Unless I missed it, that info doesn't seem to be available on the GL website, although it does list production numbers for some of the other MCG series.

Regards,
gr6120

Thanks for clearing that up - too bad I learned the hard way! What is production up to now on the MCG Series 3 cars anyway?

Franky

6,000. That's what Jason at Greenlight told me over the phone yesterday.

WOW! 6000 of each? 120 GMs per car, times two (one stock and one custom) is 240 Green Machines per casting... ouch! I'd say 120 is still rare, but nothing compared to what it used to be. I guess all really good things must come to an end sooner or later. Thanks for the info, David.

Franky

WOW! 6000 of each? 120 GMs per car, times two (one stock and one custom) is 240 Green Machines per casting... ouch! I'd say 120 is still rare, but nothing compared to what it used to be. I guess all really good things must come to an end sooner or later. Thanks for the info, David.

Franky
It's just good ole supply and demand at work! The #'s are still low and hopefully will bring down the secondary market prices!!! I see alot of them sitting on e b a y right now with crazy a$$ prices on em :drunk: Thanx for the info all! :thumbsup:

GEW
GREENLAND (http://p092.ezboard.com/fwwwsnehwcomfrm53)

Gotta love it when the company come to HT to keep the collector happy. Thanks Kate and Greenlight!

Thanks for the info Katie. Now maybe you can clear up the production run numbers, is it 3500 or 6000? Please let us know.
Thanks again Katie and everyone at Green light.
Bryan

I hope production doesn't go any higher.

A good thing may come to an end.

Its gotta be 6000 . I have a R3 car with a 4000 + number on it . Another is in the 3900's ..

The production number for each car is 6,000. The demand is rising and in order for us to continue releasing our Series on a regular basis we need to feed that demand. However, we still remain true to you, the collector and we truly enjoy receiving your feedback, positive and negative. We visit these boards on a regular basis and even though we can't always answer all of your questions, we do listen to what you have to say. Please keep it coming!

Thanks everyone!!

Katie@GREENLIGHT

I think as long as demand is there and quality stays the same whats the big deal of increasing production? I think it works out in our benefit. Production increases and the amount of GM's increase. Giving the average collector a better chance of getting one. And with more available maybe that with bring down the crazy a$$ prices on the secondary market. just my opinion. keep up the great work greenlight!

I would respectfully disagree. I think that rare pieces are exactly what this hobby has been missing for the last few years. When the Green Machines were limited to 40, 50 and even 70 pieces, the collector had something that was truly unique - only 39 people out there have one just like the one in front of you! In my mind, they eclipsed the once coveted White Lightning, so much so that I stopped buying and trading for the whites as a whole. I know a few other collectors that did just the same.

Now the production number has nearly doubled, which means that the secondary market will now have two kinds of sellers - those who order cases and get Green Machines, and those who live at your local Sears / K-Mart and put everything on EBay. Sure, this will drive the "unreasonable" prices back down so that everyone can have a shot at owning a Green Machine, but thats EXACTLY why I liked them in the first place: not everyone had one! I don't have the $$ to just go buy one of each right now, but that #1 makes me really appreciate the ones I do have, and #2 makes me work harder so that the next time I have $150 just laying around, I know what to do with it.

Two quick examples of why NOT to double production numbers of chase cars:
1.) White Lightnings. Anyone remember that BWF Camaro? $400+ before the great Canadian blizzard of 2007. Today? I saw one sell for $60. Why? Because EVERYONE that wants one can have one!
2.) Treasure Hunts. Today, the line has been split in two, and the number of "regular" Treasure Hunts increased. The result? Corvette C6R, Skyline, and Camaro "Hunts" for less than $6 each. Do I leave them? No; still can't find them. But the guy at the local HW show had 18 of them at $5 each, and didn't sell a single one.

I guess its a bit elitist of me to celebrate owning something that someone else doesn't. But the thing is, there is a LOT out there that I don't have. I see some of the pieces displayed on this very site (See: GM Custom Mustang 429, orange car on card) and I just drool. What appears to set me apart is the fact that I can accept that other people have something I don't. It doesn't bother me - quite the opposite! I'm very happy for those who have a piece I don't.

I certainly hope that Greenlight pays very close attention to their supply and demand curve. There is only so much of a market for $5 diecast cars, and the last thing I would ever want to see is the remains of a production run unloaded at my local KB Outlet store to make room for the next series.

Franky

*wish i had $150 just laying around...

Anywho, i understand your point Franky, the rarity of said item does indeed make it more charishable to hold. The most unique one i have in my collection is a LF 2004 Hurst Olds, even with 150 made (which would still be more than the new run of GM's which would be 120) they still demand high prices and a certain thing of rarity.

Even with 120, that still eave 119 other people in the WORLD that would have said piece, thats just above 2 cars per STATE. Now if that isn't rare enough for you, i don't know. To me anything under 200 would be rare and would be worth charishing.

Also you got to remember, just as they are there to service the collector, they also do have employees to pay themselves.

just because you live near a tru or k-mart doesn't mean crap. we've seen all of 3 cases in this town since "greenlight" said these 2 chains would carry them ( about 10 months now?). it's been a load of crap. i dumped them with such poor distribution.

NO ONE here sells GL cars. Every once in a great long while I will see a stray at a TRU. Did they only get a couple of cars? Did someone buy them all before I saw them? I dont think so, I was there the night before and nothing. Next morning 2 on the pegs....hmmmm.
The fact that you guys can even get Gl's at retail is a great thing. Wish we could get them here.

i don't see it as a "great thing'. i collect hot wheels. like the greenlights. but not chasing a ghost. maybe you have a small group of greenlight collectors. but in truth there only value $$ is the same or less than you paid, just like a hot wheels, unless you find a chase, just like in hot wheels.
otherwise, the value is in the eyes of the beholder, and for 99 cents at a retail store i'll take the hot wheels, over the "ghost of greenlights" at mail order prices, hoping you don't get ripped off, which happens all the time.

IMO green machines are cool. These are toys no matter how you slice it. Whether there are 100 each or 300 each they are still rare. The only people who are overly concerned about the increased production are those who want to jack the price up.

To this day, I have never seen a Greenlight at TRU.

I like the rarity of the Greenlight cars and the Green machines. If you can't find them then all you have to do is get a hold of Russ at Milezone's Toys and he can hook you up. Even RC2 is reducing some of their Johnny Lightning Series to 5000 and the White Lightnings to 1% of the run to make them more rare again. It does get a little frustrating looking for the Greenie's, but that's part of the game we all play as a collectors. Greenlight is making a great looking product and I hope they don't start mass producing the cars and make them cheep. I see them at Kmart. TRU had only one series around me and that was it.

... otherwise, the value is in the eyes of the beholder, and for 99 cents at a retail store i'll take the hot wheels, over the "ghost of greenlights" at mail order prices, hoping you don't get ripped off, which happens all the time.

So basicly what you are kinda saying here is that you would rather have an amassed collection of cars that kinda look like the real thing, than a smaller collection of cars that are almost dead ringers of the real car

As far as being ripped off, i feel sorry for you if it has ever happened to you, and appaul the guy who did it to you. But in my dealing with OLD's everything has always came out great. Sometimes (well, most of the times) it is cheaper to buy them through an OLD which has them usually for the same price as your local TRU, and pay the $5 or whatever dollars for shipping, than to drive to 3 different stores looking for a car with gas prices the way they are.

Granted it does take the thrill out of 'finding' them, but hey, i dont collect to find, i collect to own.

A production run of 6000 & 120 chase cars is still a very small number . I have yet to see a Greenie in a store , In fact I almost never see the Greenlights at KMart either . Only once saw them at TRU . They dissappear fast ! If they are there at all ... Hopefully the prices of Greens will come down to more affordability with a small increase in their numbers ..

JL rarely reveals their production numbers , so we dont really know how many are out there , but White Lightnings are still scarce ! Im lucky if I find one a year !! WL prices are still all over the board , it depends on the car . Mopar muscle seems to be the 'in' thing now ... With Green Machines , it seems the least popular & lowest price ones are the 67 GTO's & 67 Coronets ..
The Mustangs still seem to go high ... & far too many ebayers think every one of them is a $150 Buy It Now car , with high starting prices & not let the bidding determine their value ...

So basicly what you are kinda saying here is that you would rather have an amassed collection of cars that kinda look like the real thing, than a smaller collection of cars that are almost dead ringers of the real car


If Green Light ever got into the habit of making the same cars as JL I would rather have the sorta real looking cheaper cars. I would rather have a HW Enzo Ferrari or MB 62 Jag. in my collection than the GL GTO that was in the first series. The fact that GL has been making cars that I don't all ready have as a JL is the reason I am buying them. I hope they keep it up.

Any 1:64 chase car with less than a 250 production run and #`ed at the same time IMO is still a very exclusive piece.I`m glad they increased production so that on the secondary market the GM`s will actually be affordable.
Also IMO,if JL put production #`s back on their WL`s it would help a lot.I`d also love to see them actually publish their wl quanitys.I`m pretty sure it`s more than 120 per release.

If Green Light ever got into the habit of making the same cars as JL I would rather have the sorta real looking cheaper cars. I would rather have a HW Enzo Ferrari or MB 62 Jag. in my collection than the GL GTO that was in the first series. The fact that GL has been making cars that I don't all ready have as a JL is the reason I am buying them. I hope they keep it up.

I wasn't mentioning the reuse of the same casting over and over again with different paint schemes, but more along the lines of running the same series a little more production wise.

ITs great the HW can make a Ferrari, and MB makes Jags, but if i had a choice between a Ferrari that looked... ok, that there are 100,000 of, and a Ferrari that looked better, and was only 10,000, for a little bit more of a price, i'd go for the better looking one.

It is a downside that GL did get into the game a little late where either JL, HW, or MB has already made the popular cars, only thing they can push is their detail and other stuff like #'d bases. If they just came in the game with a thrown together Mustang, or Camaro and presented it at the kets say $2, they would be boarding up their shops right now. MArkets flooded with cheaply thrown together cars, but for quality die-cast(that YES, does has flaws) There aren't many people in the game. JL and GL or about the only ones. Sure you can include Jada, and the higher-end HW's, but thoe are 'out of proportion' to the scale of things.

PS: i collect HW's as much as i do JL's and Jada, as well as tootsie toys, buddy l, etc... My personal tastes stear me to the car itself, not who makes it (read that yes, i do own that hideous "HW hi-rakers 442"). My preference over companies is who can make the most cars I enjoy, which right now is JL, they make more Oldsmobiles castings than any other company. (who else out there made an 83 H/O..... noone)

Sometimes (well, most of the times) it is cheaper to buy them through an OLD which has them usually for the same price as your local TRU, and pay the $5 or whatever dollars for shipping, .

This I disagree with. I was going to order a few cars from Macs Little Toys, I had two AMXs in my cart, then I saw a White lightning I really wanted. But due to the cost, not the size or quantity, and seeing he charges his shipping by the price of the order rather than by the quantity of 1:64, adding that one extra 1:64 scale to my order would have pushed the shipping up considerably, so I did not bother ordering any of the cars. I honestly don't see how the price of the car should determine the cost of the shipping :confused:

Also, unless you are buying multiples, the cost of shipping really more than doubles the cost of a single car.

Granted it does take the thrill out of 'finding' them, but hey, i dont collect to find, i collect to own.

This I agree with, to a point. I love finding a chase in the wild. Probably the only reason I go to K-Days, it's pretty much the only time I ever find a hunt in the wild anymore, and it feels great pulling that Corvette Super hunt out of the box, or watching your son find his first ever Pit Cruiser hunt in his box at K-day, and seeing that smile from ear to ear. I collect to own too, but the hunt makes it that much more fun, especially when I go out for a day of hunting with my son, you just can't get that from an old.

This I disagree with. I was going to order a few cars from Macs Little Toys, I had two AMXs in my cart, then I saw a White lightning I really wanted. But due to the cost, not the size or quantity, and seeing he charges his shipping by the price of the order rather than by the quantity of 1:64, adding that one extra 1:64 scale to my order would have pushed the shipping up considerably, so I did not bother ordering any of the cars. I honestly don't see how the price of the car should determine the cost of the shipping You should of went ahead with your order. He would of adjusted the price as he did for me when i ordered 2 cars from him a few weeks ago. I made the payment and almost imediatley got a refund on the shipping. My 2 cents :wave:

GEW

This I disagree with. I was going to order a few cars from Macs Little Toys, I had two AMXs in my cart, then I saw a White lightning I really wanted. But due to the cost, not the size or quantity, and seeing he charges his shipping by the price of the order rather than by the quantity of 1:64, adding that one extra 1:64 scale to my order would have pushed the shipping up considerably, so I did not bother ordering any of the cars. I honestly don't see how the price of the car should determine the cost of the shipping :confused:

Also, unless you are buying multiples, the cost of shipping really more than doubles the cost of a single car.


Agree with buying in doubles, i always try to find atleast 2 cars to help offset shipping (especially on older cars i need, hate to pay $1 for a $1 car and then $5 for shipping)

But as far as the shipping goes with what you just described, do you think you could get those 2 amx's plus the WL if you were to drive around all day long burning gas?

Granted don't get me wrong on the gas burning part, i do alot of it myself, but sometimes i juts bite the bullet and buy online, it kinda 'garentees' that i get one, rather than hunt and hunt and hunt and hunt, and come out empty handed, then resort to OLD who are now sold out, then resort to e-pay prices...

You should of went ahead with your order. He would of adjusted the price as he did for me when i ordered 2 cars from him a few weeks ago. I made the payment and almost imediatley got a refund on the shipping. My 2 cents :wave:

GEW

Had I known that, I would have. I just could not see or justify the reasoning behind charging for shipping by the cost of the cars, rather than the quantity.

But as far as the shipping goes with what you just described, do you think you could get those 2 amx's plus the WL if you were to drive around all day long burning gas?

Nope, you are right there. It just bothered me how he charged for shipping by how much you spend.

This I disagree with. I was going to order a few cars from Macs Little Toys, I had two AMXs in my cart, then I saw a White lightning I really wanted. But due to the cost, not the size or quantity, and seeing he charges his shipping by the price of the order rather than by the quantity of 1:64, adding that one extra 1:64 scale to my order would have pushed the shipping up considerably, so I did not bother ordering any of the cars. I honestly don't see how the price of the car should determine the cost of the shipping :confused:

Also, unless you are buying multiples, the cost of shipping really more than doubles the cost of a single car.




Its the way the program is set up to calculate shipping

Its a shame you didn't send an email asking about shipping for the three cars, we could have sorted that out no problem

Thanks for everything everyone, it has been a fun ride, sorry its over

:wave:

Rob

Its the way the program is set up to calculate shipping

Its a shame you didn't send an email asking about shipping for the three cars, we could have sorted that out no problem

:wave:

Rob

It's cool Rob, I wish I would have known. I wish you the best in whatever is next for you. :wave:

I agree with you a 100%, I am dumping all my greenlight things due to the mass producing of them as they keep doing more and more series. This is what happened to JL. First the numbering thing stopped then the issuing of different series, now its the same car a hundred times and different tampo. When does it stop

Its not like Greenlight garage has done a lot of different castings, I mean this came directly from an email from Thomas Lowe, who I talk to from now and then about the RC2 situation and new diecast companies. I mean look how many coronets, 2006 mustangs, and olds they have done, and dont forget the cudas. You can only do so many, why does the customer wanna keep buying the same thing over and over just for a different color. It gets cheaper for the company but more expensive for the collector. I know Im done with them.




[QUOTE=Franklin2700]I would respectfully disagree. I think that rare pieces are exactly what this hobby has been missing for the last few years. When the Green Machines were limited to 40, 50 and even 70 pieces, the collector had something that was truly unique - only 39 people out there have one just like the one in front of you! In my mind, they eclipsed the once coveted White Lightning, so much so that I stopped buying and trading for the whites as a whole. I know a few other collectors that did just the same.

Now the production number has nearly doubled, which means that the secondary market will now have two kinds of sellers - those who order cases and get Green Machines, and those who live at your local Sears / K-Mart and put everything on

I agree with you a 100%, I am dumping all my greenlight things due to the mass producing of them as they keep doing more and more series. This is what happened to JL. First the numbering thing stopped then the issuing of different series, now its the same car a hundred times and different tampo. When does it stop

Its not like Greenlight garage has done a lot of different castings, I mean this came directly from an email from Thomas Lowe, who I talk to from now and then about the RC2 situation and new diecast companies. I mean look how many coronets, 2006 mustangs, and olds they have done, and dont forget the cudas. You can only do so many, why does the customer wanna keep buying the same thing over and over just for a different color. It gets cheaper for the company but more expensive for the collector. I know Im done with them.

Ok, just for curiosity sakes, what brand are you going to collect now? I'm confused as to what other company out there 1) numbers there cars and 2) have limited production.

And im sorry, but for the people here that say 6,000 is "High production"... thats just pathetic! Most other companies "chase cars" have a higher production rate then that!

To me, the production increase raises a very big red flag. First, I would ask that for the sake of argument, lets assume that JL is GLs chief competition. Both are priced about the same and both feature great detail on the car itself. JL, after being bought out by RC2, went through what I consider to be some pretty rough times. They failed to distribute their product - sometimes evenly, and sometimes completely. This resulted in a complete absence of product, from the shelves and from collector's minds. Then the WL blizzard of 2007 in Canada drove the secondary WL market into the ground. And contrary to popular belief, the secondary market is VERY important to companies like JL and GL. More on that later.

OK, so JLs woes are well documented. Greenlight, on the other hand, is kicking some serious butt. Their production of 3500 pieces was just enough to satisfy the hard core collectors (those who pre-order to ensure having the entire set), and the dealers who buy multiple cases for resale, leaving minimal excess to be sold through big retailers.

Now we have the production increase of 2500 cars to 6000 total production. Since the number of die-hards who pre-order complete sets isn't likely to decrease, this production increase can really only be targeted at one avenue: the mass retailers.

So two companies do a flip-flop. JL has cut production numbers to 5000 (according to the newest packaging), and although it still appears that some distribution woes remain, their product is hotter than ever. Cases seem to sell out at the online retailers, and with the exception of that first boring release to Target stores everywhere (Camaro, Lincoln Futura, etc.) every mixed case of JL that hits the shelves here in Denver sells out in a matter of a couple days.

Only time will tell what is in store for Greenlight. Granted, an additional 1000 cars isn't all that much. But we know that the additional product is intended for retail shelves. Again I mention that there is only so much of a market for $5 cars. What happens when those extra GLs are hanging on the shelves when the next series is due out and the retailers don't re-order? We all see it with the older JL product... there are still 8 of the first JL batch hanging at the Target not far from here. I haven't given up yet... but I am genuinely concerned.

Regarding the Green Machines. 120 is still rare. Not AS rare, mind you, as the previous runs, nor as rare as the newest release of White Lightnings (if the 1% or 2% of production speculation is correct). I think it is safe to say that the desirability of a product like the GLs is directly tied to its chase pieces. When the chase pieces are more common, and more accessible to the average collector, then the rest of the line loses some of its luster as well. My BWF Camaro WL from series 18 was grounds for some serious bragging rights up until late January. Now, everyone that wants one has access to one through the secondary market. Its value has plummeted, as has its rarity. Another member said its all supply and demand. But remember, supply CAN exceed demand, and that is what is POTENTIALLY on the horizon here.

I still feel like my Green Machines are as special as that Camaro once was, but if every collector I know can just go buy one, then the chase has lost its appeal. As my interest in Matty's brand dwindles, I hope Greenlight can give me the product I want - and let me have a shot at owning something that the guy down the street does not.

Franky

PS - I've recently been berated for my "Holier than Thou" attitude in my posts. Please, do not mistake my passion for this hobby for some belief that I am any better than any one of you. I am one of the few that are in this hobby NOT to make a buck, but to enjoy the pieces that I own.

Many good points made around the production issue. My feelings are GL needs to increase production to be viable as a company. 120 is a LOW
production for a chase car. I will keep my 35 GM's and hope to obtain newer ones at lower prices. I look forward to Corvette Rel 2 and if they make 5000
or 6000 of each and the GM's cost $50 vs $100 I will be happy.
Lets not forget that GL makes one of the best products out there today.
Have you picked up a loose GL car? They are very heavy and very well done.
They are also one of the few companies out there that reads AND posts here.
Their level of Passion and Communication is appreciated.

Go with Greenlight!

Regards, DrDeal

I too will still collect the series. I am concerned will the production numbers however, I thought the next step should have stopped at the 5,000 level and left for awhile. Time will tell if production is too high.


Mike

Some excellent points raised here.

I've been trying diligently over the past 6 months to trade for each of the Green Machine '69/'70 Mustangs produced to date (including the 2 promo Boss 429's). With the help of some great people here and on HWC that I've had the pleasure of meeting, I now need only 1 GM Mustang to complete my set (4 more, if you count the "card variations" from MCG 1). In the beginning, the extremely low GM production numbers made it frustrating to try and acquire the pieces I needed, but I perservered and saw my collection grow slowly with time. Once that happened, I came to really appreciate that I had some pieces that I not only liked and would keep indefinitely in my personal collection, but also were rare.

At this point, GreenLight is not available in Canada (where I am), which has made acquiring the GMs strictly through trades (I don't have the luxury of deep pockets to buy all of the GMs I need) an ongoing challenge. Completing my GM collection continues to be slow but I still appreciate the rarity factor.

I don't mind the increased production to 120 GMs, as it still means a rare chase car. However, if that number were to increase too much more, it would take the lustre off acquiring the GMs. Regardless, I'll continue to value the 1/50 and 1/70 GM Mustangs I've managed to get.

Hopefully, it won't be too much longer until GL is sold in Canada. No doubt, the product would be received enthusiastically by collectors here.

Adam (gr6120)

Hopefully, it won't be too much longer until GL is sold in Canada. No doubt, the product would be received enthusiastically by collectors here.

Adam (gr6120)

And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when that happens, won't another production hike be in order to supply those ADDED retailers?!? Thus, the cycle continues, etc, etc, etc! Seems to me you can't have it both ways.....

And please, this is JUST an obervation, NO malice intended!!

Joe

And someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when that happens, won't another production hike be in order to supply those ADDED retailers?!? Thus, the cycle continues, etc, etc, etc! Seems to me you can't have it both ways.....

And please, this is JUST an obervation, NO malice intended!!

Joe
None taken, Joe. You've made another good, if not unfortunate, observation. Low production numbers are great for collectors, but I also don't see how GL can keep it up indefinitely as demand increases. At present, GL isn't even distributed evenly across the U.S., let alone in other markets. It would be unrealistic to think that GL wouldn't be made available eventually in the Canadian and other international markets. In fact, GL has indicated in posts on GreenLightGarage.com that they're working on expanding to Canada.

Sure, GL has been fantastic about listening and responding to what its customer base wants (e.g., high quality and detail, rarity of chase cars, casting selection, etc.), but it's also in business to make money. That's just the nature of a profit-based company.

Regardless of production numbers, I'll continue to collect the GL castings I like, along with the matching Green Machines. Yes, it will ultimately mean a decrease in the "value" of the GMs in secondary markets, but that will just make the first MCG series even more valuable (like Mattel's first T-Hunts released in 1995). Of course, GL is still a far cry from Mattel's production of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of T-Hunts, and I'm sure many of us will enjoy the ride with GL's rarity and relatively low production numbers as long as it lasts :thumbsup:.

Regards,
Adam (gr6120)

Great, more people are starting to understand.

You can't have low production numbers and even wide spread distribution, one or the other... pick one, can't have both!

If you are going to do wide spread distrubution, you have to make more cars to distribute! If you keep the production numbers low, then it will obviously hinder distributing the cars nationwide (let alone Canada)

Just trying to figure out why people are complaining about not being able to get said car in store, and yet still fight to keep the production numbers low, just doesn't make sence to me.

Regardless of production numbers, I'll continue to collect the GL castings I like, along with the matching Green Machines. Yes, it will ultimately mean a decrease in the "value" of the GMs in secondary markets, but that will just make the first MCG series even more valuable (like Mattel's first T-Hunts released in 1995).
I`m sure they will continue to gain in value.
I`d say within 2-3 months everyone can tell if the 6,000 # is too high.I personally don`t think they should go anymore than 6,000 and no less than 5,000 so that GM prices will still be obtainable to someone with a mortgage. :thumbsup:

I`m sure they will continue to gain in value.
I`d say within 2-3 months everyone can tell if the 6,000 # is too high.I personally don`t think they should go anymore than 6,000 and no less than 5,000 so that GM prices will still be obtainable to someone with a mortgage. :thumbsup:

The company needs to be profitable which is done by building volume on the regular line of GL. The chase cars are done to please collectors but are not a source of revenue for GL. I vote for production that meets their needs to grow as a company. I look forward to finding GL cars at Target this fall. That makes good sense and will fit with Target's diecast aisle nicely.

DrDeal

Man o man, some folks is taking the increase wayto seriously, Its all about supply and demand if the consumer wants more than they have to release more.

Thats the beauty of GL if u want a low number set find a complete set thats individually numbered under 2500 etc.

I mean no harm but u all must remember collecting is about FUN!!!!!!!!!

An increase in production and none of my local K-MART stores have gotten any new releases in more than a month! :cry:

I'd be happy to find the regular versions on the pegs. Greenlight makes some awesome diecast cars! :thumbsup:

Would someone please tell the OLD's that GM's from MCG 3 are worth $50 max. I would like to see reality catch up wityh ebay BIN prices. The 99 BIN's just sit there and cost the seller alot of listing fees.

DrDeal

I think the GMs prices with the new release will drop in time. 120 vs 70 -- not quit double so the the prices should be only 2/3 of the originals (certain castings may be slightly higher). The $40 - $60 range is appropriate for this release.


Mike

Would someone please tell the OLD's that GM's from MCG 3 are worth $50 max. I would like to see reality catch up with "ebay" BIN prices. The 99 BIN's just sit there and cost the seller alot of listing fees.

DrDeal

I am curious, what OLD's have GMs on "ebay"? I would think those would be the ones for the collector to stay away from?

If OLD refers to On Line Dealer I would think that anyone who seels on ebay could be referred to as an OLD. That was my point. I did not mean dealers who have internet sites. Sorry if I was not clear. It won't happen again.

DrDeal

Saw one case put up at TRU, but by then there were only three left :(