Well??? I have looked in the manual and i cant find an explanation of what the difference is.

what is the difference in the average and average v1v on a turbo 35gfx?
CClay1282,you have a PM.

looking at turbo 30 from front
power supply on left
also dischargeing at 15 amp gives you a more accurate run time

what is the difference in the average voltage and average v1v on a turbo 35gfx?

Well, does anyone have an answer?

Average voltage is just that...all the way to the cutoff that you have set. Most people use .90V per cell (3.60V as a pack).

Average Voltage @ 1V is just that...the average voltage until the pack reaches 1V per cell (4.00V as a pack)

If you cut your packs off at 1V like I do it reports the same number for both.

Hope this clarifies :thumbsup:

What kind of life span do you get from your spec packs (4-cell) version ??

What kind of life span do you get from your spec packs (4-cell) version ??
Im happy with my Trinity 1600s as far as durabilty,mine have been used thru the winter season past and the summer point series we had at our track.Not thrilled with the performance of them as far as voltage and discharge time go's.I peak charge at high amps and discharge at 15 amps.I'v flex cycled them on my Turbo 35 and just get so so #s from them.:confused:Guess Im expecting too much!!!!!!!!

What kind of life span do you get from your spec packs (4-cell) version ??

it's really the luck of the draw with these spec packs Some are GREAT out of the box some should be put back in the box. I would say one season of weekly racing is about max for these packs. then it's time to use them as practice packs and buy new race packs.

Here are the numbers of my top 3 packs from the 07 nats. 6.0 charge, 15amp discharge.
4CELL SPEC 1600 MAH PACKS (Deans)

NAME - TIME - IR - PKV@1v - DCHT - 15 - 30 - 60 -120 - 240
1A - 1670 - 30.3 - 7.56 - 510 - 5.09 - 4.93 - 4.73 - 4.57 - 4.50
5C - 1488 - 33.3 - 7.45 - 519 - 5.03 - 4.86 - 4.72 - 4.63 - 4.49
6A - 1470 - 29.6 - 7.54 - 467 - 5.01 - 4.90 - 4.73 - 4.60 - 4.48

All of my other packs are just a hair off of these but these are the ones that I know run on the track.

I know that I'm probably bombarding you with a repiticious question, but, I would like to know how I can set up my turbo 35's to get them to pick up numbers like that!
My best pack is only giving me 375 dchg time 51.9 IR 4.02 V at 1Amp
Eric L

reply here or
either give me a PM or
www.TeamERLracing@aol.com

Voltage leads placement?

Voltage leads placement?

Whut???

Where are you placing the voltage sensing leads at?

Where are you placing the voltage sensing leads at?

I ain't been usin' them....
however...I think I got my one of my batt's to wake up
418 dschg / 45.1 air/dc v = 4.21

your numbers are useless then :)

your numbers are useless then :)

usning the leads---same pack after third cycle:


432 discharge/ 49.6 air/ 4.20 v


figured out now how to acheive that!

Thanks Jimmy!!!

Eric L

Eric L,you have Email.

I cycled my 4 packs last week @ 20 amps, 3.60v cutoff

Pack 1 = 260 sec. my weak one, now in a Legends Breakout car
Pack 2 = 286 sec
Pack 3 = 293 sec, better voltage than #4 by .04v
Pack 4 = 297 sec

I charge at 5-6 amps, repeak @ 7-8 smps.

ah ha!!!! I know ur secret...lol

Eric L,you have Email.

thanks

Eric L,great gettinn your reply,Boss lookinn wheels!!!Will continue our conversation soon.
#83 Beefy Excaliber Spec Sk.
:thumbsup::woohoo::wave:

Eric L,great gettinn your reply,Boss lookinn wheels!!!Will continue our conversation soon.
#83 Beefy Excaliber Spec Sk.
:thumbsup::woohoo::wave:

" Beefy Excaliber Spec Sk"? hmmm wonder whut kinda chassis that is...Is it fast....is it fun...? Need input!!!!

Eric L

Its a Tplate chassis with a mid mounted battery.Wish I had A Didg.camera Id send some Pic's,maybe i can get my daughter to photograph it--them for me????.Any questions,go for it!!!! Its a great car,the wheel man is something to be desired thou.Their a replica of our Eastern pavement Modified Tour Car.:thumbsup::woohoo::wave:

ah....I c! Man, i'm missin' all the fun... Seems like due to our economy, this hobby of mine is of a dyin' breed down by where I'm at... Yet, judgin by what I c in the posts... its flyin everywhere else.

Wonder what it would take to get this hobby jumping again down here!!!

Eric L

P.S. GEt them pics goin on yer car!lol

Eric,things arnt booming in New England in the RC world either.Hey,lets not get off topic,LOL,we gotta work togeather to get our Spec packs with real good numbers.Explain the reason for using a lower flex number than im useing.

Eric,things arnt booming in New England in the RC world either.Hey,lets not get off topic,LOL,we gotta work togeather to get our Spec packs with real good numbers.Explain the reason for using a lower flex number than im useing.

When I first got my chargers... I had Joe Rutherford help me set them up ...with the help of a few other guys of course...But when we set them up, He told me that for best results to flex at level 5 or 6....no need to go higher... That its purpose is to break up the crystals (air.rir) in the battery and to help insure better battery amps. I have moved 'em up to level 7 flex but was a little afraid to push em to 9 as I am not ready to loose a battery yet.

However, charging them this way has given me great results...

with my set up problems finalized...I pulled my self out of the B mains in to the A mains. With longer run times and faster laps (closer if not better than track records).

Set up is key first....then motor, then battery care! If you have all 3 consistant, you are sure to be a A main winner!

Eric L

disclaimer: Not responsible for my opinion or findings in testing!

So, do i use the turboflex on my turbo 35? or should i use my ice to try to revive old cells? What should i do with some packs that are less desireable?

I found the issues with my three dead packs, the welded tabs melted thru the heatshrink shorting them out.

I also found a MAJOR difference between batches of spec packs in their construction.

Welded tabs for the leads to the ESC or direct solder to the cells?

My three best packs, which was the last I got from Denise, all had the wires directly soldered to the cells, not to the welded tabs.........two of my failed packs of the early design, the welded tabs for the leads to the ECU melted thru the heat shrink and shorted out the cells.

So, do i use the turboflex on my turbo 35? or should i use my ice to try to revive old cells? What should i do with some packs that are less desireable?

After conversing with Competition Electronics based in Rockford Ill.

They referred me to my owners manual for recommendations to flexing ONLY NI CD BATTERIES.

Here is what my Turbo 35BL manual says:
( eh em)

"The TURBO35 employs our own version of reflex charging called TurboFLEX. TurboFLex charging can recondition cells by lowering the internal resistance thru breaking up of the crystalline structure formed by aging cells, It can also reduce heat buildup during chraging by reducing gas build up in the cells.

Before charging you may select one of 9 intensities for each of the three peaks in the default menu. Also TurboFlex may be turned on or off for each of the three peaks. Intesiity 1 is the lowest and 9 is the highest. We recommend intesity 6 for RC-1700/2000...."

Now, in my GFX manual every thing is the same except it added this:
"... It is intended for use with NiCd cells only" and "...intesity 6 for RC-2000/2400."

Now with that being said, I have used a higher setting for my spec packs...case in point-- Intensity 7 for one of the Red cell packs. I am kind of uncertain that the results did anything better.

Hope this helps everyone!

Eric L
TeamERLracing
R&D
www.TeamERLracing@aol.com
P.S. for more info on Turbo35's you might wanna contact
Competition Electronics, Inc.
3469 Precision Drive
Rockford, Il 61109
(815) 874-8001
Fax (815) 874-8181

or visit there website at:
www.competitionelectronics.com
or contact
www.cbailey@competitionelectronics.com

I tried an old pack on "9" but it died, a welded tab shortd out.

Eric, I'll show you some notes that I'm getting rights now cycling packs.

Also Chuck P. said NOT to TFlex on raceday :)

My new "toy" took my worst pack to a 239 sec/4.40v pack to 309 sec/4.43v pack

My 1st qualifer pack, 15 amp discharge, old way vs. new toy

30....4.82...4.82
60....4.60...4.64
90....4.46...4.53
120..4.39...4.48
150..4.35...4.45
180..4.32...4.42
210..4.26...4.38
240..4.17...4.31
270..4.09...4.19
300..4.00...4.11

I plan on running the car exactly the same as last weekend, motor has 12 runs on it. I MIGHT take it out to clean, but might just leave it as is. Only a double points weekend :)

Eric,no boutadoubtit,YA GOTTA TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Trial and error.Im gonna go with your chargeinn method this Sunday onna high banks at Turn4.With my just trued BSR Spec tires,the other Spec SKs aint gonna have a chance,Im not takinn any prisoners!!!!!!!LOL.:thumbsup::woohoo::wave:

BoneSpec,what type of charger do you use????

CE T30, 9 button @ 4 amps.

Eric,no boutadoubtit,YA GOTTA TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Trial and error.Im gonna go with your chargeinn method this Sunday onna high banks at Turn4.With my just trued BSR Spec tires,the other Spec SKs aint gonna have a chance,Im not takinn any prisoners!!!!!!!LOL.:thumbsup::woohoo::wave:

lol....Awesome dude....Goodluck Sandy.

I'm makin my way to the track where I race at now to do some final adjustments.

Also....tryin to condense down what I do and dont need to take!

Eric L

CE T30, 9 button @ 4 amps. Good stuff,The Turbo 35BLs are pretty hard to beat.They can be upgraded to handle the new Lipos at a modest fee also.:thumbsup:

I was watching a GFX on Ebay, already upgraded to Lipos, went for $100........

I was watching a GFX on Ebay, already upgraded to Lipos, went for $100........ Great deal!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

I was watching a GFX on Ebay, already upgraded to Lipos, went for $100........

I know who's got an owner's manual for one!!!

Eric L

Need a Turbo 35 BL Stealth owners manual now, It's different than my two Turbo 35's and one Turbo 30.

I think my number of battery chargers is now in double digits.

OK, 11 chargers now...........

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/bonespec/RC%20Stuff/chargersaplenty.jpg

I'm likeing the CE TC35 BL SE.......It'll stay at home along with the 5 button TC30, I'll use the two TC T30 Turboflex at the track.

Anyone need a Novak Rhino for cheap? Maybe a Digipeak and Peak Plus as well.

New power supply arrives tomorrow.........

....just like a crack addict!

All I could afford was aNovak Peak plus YEARS ago, it served me well, which is why I bought two in the beginning.

Here's a setup for you. Those airplane guys are crazy!

OK, 11 chargers now...........

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/bonespec/RC%20Stuff/chargersaplenty.jpg

I'm likeing the CE TC35 BL SE.......It'll stay at home along with the 5 button TC30, I'll use the two TC T30 Turboflex at the track.

Anyone need a Novak Rhino for cheap? Maybe a Digipeak and Peak Plus as well.

New power supply arrives tomorrow.........

....just like a crack addict!

All I could afford was aNovak Peak plus YEARS ago, it served me well, which is why I bought two in the beginning.



Waitin for someone to say....I can beat you with one charger!'


Eric L

That you were wanting to buy the three old Novaks :)

Nope! Satisfied with my 4 chargers.

However, seriously thinkin bout buyin Tim's GFX

Eric L

Nope! Satisfied with my 4 chargers.

However, seriously thinkin bout buyin Tim's GFX

Eric L

Will it help your driving or racing luck?????

Will it help your driving or racing luck?????

niether....just wanted to add to my collection!

niether....just wanted to add to my collection!

The only item missing is a Fantom Dyno! Then your world would be complete!:thumbsup: LOL Which by the way I have one with your name written all over it! LOL

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The only item missing is a Fantom Dyno! Then your world would be complete!:thumbsup: LOL Which by the way I have one with your name written all over it! LOL

...buddy! 'ol Pal....Talk to me....lol

...buddy! 'ol Pal....Talk to me....lol

Don't.....you don't wanna drag a car battery around or a 75-100 amp power supply :)

Well, maybe you might need to if you wanna keep up with me :)