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Bill Hall 03-15-2007, 08:17 PM Pete, lets get Mike hooked up. He runs with the big dogs. I'm just a newbie wall flower on the local circuit. They're gonna real me in eventually, but my 1:1 resto obligations are gonna be stacked up until fall. Darn day jobs any way!
Time permitting I'll tag along to Portland with their crew. If the nit gets in the grit, I'll paint whatever Mike wants done. Lets just get your product out there!
Being as how you've comped me on so many items; I made sure to spread the wealth that everybody who inquired got some finished or unfinished shells. All except the Supra GT which I greedily sequestered. Larry from Yakima had his eye on the Supra so he'll get his from the next batch. Unfortunatly I didnt have enough Oddy bods for everyone.
Pete McKay 03-15-2007, 08:30 PM Mike, I will be shorty. When I announced a design change I had my cell phone ringing off the hook. I think I'll leave it alone. Martin, AJ and I had the day off today and actually had 4 Eagles on the track running at the same time. Martins track has a long straight that clamps down to a 6" inside radius and a 9" outside radius and it was mayhem on the start... Yes, you can knock a rear wing off the car but it was the paint that failed. After regluing the wings on the cars that lost them we haven't lost them again. And we tend to use the bump and run quite a bit with these cars. That reminds me, I need to do a Kevin Cogan car.
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Martin's yellow car was originally a Pennzoil car but then he clear coated the decals he said they disolved. It's now a Kendall GT-1 car. The Pepsi car belongs to my brother-in-law who is a Gordon fan (there's always one). I have a Lowe's car in the paintshop and a really nice purple sort of colored car that hasn't found a sponsor yet.
Bill, I sent you 3 more Odyssey's plus the Martini car, you got 4 DIRT LM's, 4 Supers, 4 Sprinters, I sent you at least 4 good Eagles plus a couple of bad one's for practice, and 4 of the Supra's. I also sent you My HORSA DIRT car in the Rusty Wallace Miller scheme....never raced because I never qualified. Pass along whatever you like, when you have a need let me know. And the Pintos.
Mike, email me your address, I have plastic for a dozen more cars on my desk and I'll see if I can draw a few over the weekend to send your way. I need to reorder but I have to wait until Tuesday (payday). I'll make sure you get a good sample batch. I pretty much such at painting but I'm a wiz with decals. I have some on my parts order, once I get that I'll do you up a couple in colors.
martybauer31 03-15-2007, 08:55 PM Bill, remember your new buddy Marty when you are staring at that Martini body.....
Pete, beautiful stuff as always. I spread the love at my last little get together and Bill now has the majority of the spring and outlaw cars you sent me, I did however have to hang onto the Pinto and the AMG. Thanks again.
:wave:
Pete McKay 03-15-2007, 09:07 PM Tell me what's on your lists. Here's what I have the molds for:
Outlaw Sprinter (AFX/XT)
Super Modified (AFX/XT)
'90 Supra Sports Car (Bill's favorite)
DIRT Late Model
Odyssey LMS
Open Wheel Eagle (AFX/XT)
1970 Ford Pinto Mini-Stock
I'll place an order with Tower on Tuesday, I can get 12 cars per package of plastic sheets, figure 1 car per pack for waste. Count your customers who may be interested and see if we can get a total so I'll know what I need.
Martin Simone 03-15-2007, 09:42 PM For the record:
Pete ran into me, it wasn't a bump in run, it was more like a smash and a dash. My wing came off, my car turned sideways and AJ ran into me causing his car to deslot and hit the wall, causing his wing to come off. Ray just ran over our wings and chased Pete down and stuck him in the wall in turn 4.
But he's right, once you reglue the wings they don't come off. The paint failed to stick to the PETG and they just popped off. In our defense we didn't scuff the surface and non-rc paints were used. I will be using the good 'ol silicone adhesive on my subsequent bodies. The side pods work well as nerf bars, wheel to wheel contact does happen but this keeps it to a minimum.
The first thing you'll notice is a different sound to the cars; the bodies fit snugly and make for a sort of sound expansion chamber, giving polymer cars a very throaty sound to them. We have been running a wing with a cord (front to back) about the same as the length (front to back) as the rear tires, and as wide as the inside bead of the rear wheel. There is no pitch to the rear wing, something I'm trying to get Pete to fix for all future draws. Nothing radical, 5 degrees will do, just a little traction help on long straights.
All in all a really nice looking car and it does handle. I've run some sub-1.2's on my track with it already, once I have some wing pitch it may drop more.
Martin~
Bill Hall 03-15-2007, 10:50 PM Bill, remember your new buddy Marty when you are staring at that Martini body.....
Pete, beautiful stuff as always. I spread the love at my last little get together and Bill now has the majority of the spring and outlaw cars you sent me, I did however have to hang onto the Pinto and the AMG. Thanks again.
:wave:
Ha Ha Marty, Where were you? The gang cleaned me out when you were busy being a good host. Cant turn your back on us for a minute. Didnt you notice the empty box when you cleaned up? Nuthin' left but dust. I had to stonewall just to get away with the Supra and 1 Nascar. Thought I was gonna have to wrestle Larry. :p Swarm of locusts they are! I think it happened when you called for pizza. I'll gladly send you what you need from my up coming order. :thumbsup:
I think an open wheeled G-jet scenario like you spoke of would be fun/mayhem. Hopefully the new bod can be crammed on a G-jet somehow.
Bill
martybauer31 03-15-2007, 11:28 PM I think the riding lawnmower would be PERFECT for an open wheeled G-Jet race. Who doesn't want to mow someone for coming out and into their lane?
As for the thievery at my race, sorry they cleaned you out bud, you have to pin down everything that is dear to you. ;) You'll have to remember that next time and bring an empty box to fill for yourself. LOL
Pete, it was ridiculous, I gave poor Bill those bodies and they all got pilfered, a truly sad tale of a new guy getting taken advantage of. :rolleyes:
Pete McKay 03-15-2007, 11:46 PM Well, he'll have first pick of what's on it's way now.
About the lawn mower. That's one of those nightmare projects, I have the 1/35th scale military figure I was going to use for the driver, it would have to be vacuformed because of the height to be sure, and I'm worried about pulling plastic that far and not having it thin out too much. I'd love to do a G-Jet body but as for just about all my projects I'd need a rolling chassis to get it right. I plan on gettinga G-Jet or two myself someday, right now money is just way too tight. We took a hard hit with the freeze, money that would normally be carrying us through right now. I've been off work for 2 weeks and state disability hasn't kicked in yet, neither has AFLAC. It's mac and cheese for lunch lately even with selling old race car parts. Things will change next week.
BTW, my new project will be announced later tonight, and Martin got his 5 degree wing angle on the mold, it'll be part of all bodies made from now on.
mking 03-16-2007, 12:12 AM the g-jet and G-3 all share the same chassis
i only have one G-jet, but i just ordered some G3 chassis to swap parts with from a broken super G.
id be happy to send you a g3 chassis. it will just take me an evening to build one from the super G parts.
regards
mike
Pete McKay 03-16-2007, 12:17 AM Sure, that sounds good. you guys would need to decide what you wanted; an open wheel or a sports car. I'm pretty much a custom designer at this point. I just announced the Corvette project so let me get that started and I'll start drawing something up for that chassis based on feedback.
Bill Hall 03-16-2007, 09:18 PM Hi Pete, The t-jets for the kids are on their way. I sent seven. Actually I made my wife send them. :p
Nuthin fancy per your spec. I ran through them real quick. There is one fleabay cull that could use a quick trip through some easy off and a tarnex dunking due to some sloppy painting by the previous owner. It was a recent arrival and didnt get through my usual process. There are a couple in the lot with some potential and a few dogs too.
I'm SOL on guide pins and lil' silicones. My apologies. Ya caught me in between. As to chassis square; I dunno, you might have to adjust tire size if necessary.
I'm running old school lock and joiner (high rail) so the pick ups will require some fiddling. Some were a little noisey/draggy and could stand a tweak.
There were also a couple that were a little tight and may benifit from further investigation. The black stuff is automotive cam lube that I use on the arm shafts and axles. I like it cuz it just keeps getting better as things get hotter. It also doesnt sling quite as bad, and seem to store better when not in use. So they may seem a little grumpy at first when they're cold, but will wake right up.
Good luck on the "500", sounds like good fun!
Pete McKay 03-16-2007, 11:39 PM Thanks Bill, I think I can get the Eagle to fit a T-Jet chassis, if not I have a mess of Cobra Clips that I can throw some Pinto bodies on them and let them just smack each other around with them. Tuning is good, these guys are age 10 through 14 and they're all mildly developmentally disabled. This will make them think and work on problem solving skills. They aren't lacking in patience so they have that over us adults.
The Littlest 500 is going to be run at the Boys and Girls club here in town on the Monday of the Memorial Day weekend, right after the real 500 is run. I have a trophy package already donated and two sponsors for refreshments. If I have 50 entries at $5 a pop that's $250, $100 of which immediately goes to the club. $50 is going to be needed to produce the bodies and the give-a-way car will cost close to another $50 to build. I have some hats being made for the 11 guys that go to the mains, and one special one for the winner. I won't be racing by the way, I've found it too hard to both promote and compete in an event this size.
Bill Hall 03-17-2007, 01:17 AM Your very welcome Pete!
Your a class act.
I wish I had half your energy.
Looking forward to some "500" pics and race results.
BH
Pete McKay 03-17-2007, 01:38 AM We will have a race on the big oval at Martins in a few days. Right now there's a war going on between the old Eagles and the new 5 degree Eagles, we had a 50 lap feature on the banks tonight and it was neck and neck for most of it. On the flat track the 5 degree's have the downforce advantage and did a little better, either that or that slight wing angle was a good psyche advantage. AJ likes the flat wing, I have both and can't really tell the differnece. Martin says the angled wing is more solid on the straights and recovers quicker from drifting in the corners.
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