It was announced that Aaron Eckhart (Thank You For Smoking, Erin Brockovich) has taken the role of Harvey Dent and will star alongside Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, Heath Ledger, Gary Oldman, and recently announced Maggie Gyllenhaal in the upcoming The Dark Knight.
Eckhart was on the short list to play Batman a few years ago.
Maggie Gyllenhaal has replaced Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. Holmes said she didn't want the part. But fans didn't much care for her last time.[ I think she was fine.] If it was because Holmes wasn't sexy enough then Gyllenhaal isn't their answer.

The Dark Knight? I guess it's better than Batman Continues, or Another Batman.

Any idea if Dent/Two-face is the villian, or is he going to be a side character?

Heath Ledger was signed to play The Joker, so I'd guess Two-Face would be a secondary villain; hopefully they're only going to introduce Harvey Dent and, at most, set up Two-Face as the villain in the next sequel.

so am I to understand that they're going to produce the new movies based off the comic book now? Cause theres already been a good batman movie with the joker. But, I know batman begins was based off the comic book (since we find out joker didn't kill his parents like he did in batman.), so is that the new direction batmans going in?


I just hope they bring back the keaton batmobile... what a sexy ride.

Josh

Eckhart would have been a terrific Batman too.

This new take on Batman is the repair work for the last couple of movies with Jim Carrey and AHHHHHHHHHHnuld. And I always thought killing off Joker in the 1st Keaton movie was a bad idea. NEVER kill off the bad guys!!!

Maggie Gyllenhaal has replaced Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. Holmes said she didn't want the part. But fans didn't much care for her last time.[ I think she was fine.] If it was because Holmes wasn't sexy enough then Gyllenhaal isn't their answer.
I think the main main problem with Katie Holmes is that she was just too light weight compared to the rest of the cast. Holmes is a girl. Gyllenhaal is a woman.

so am I to understand that they're going to produce the new movies based off the comic book now? Cause theres already been a good batman movie with the joker. But, I know batman begins was based off the comic book (since we find out joker didn't kill his parents like he did in batman.), so is that the new direction batmans going in?


I just hope they bring back the keaton batmobile... what a sexy ride.

Josh

Not quite sure what you're saying here. All of the Batman movies have been based partially on the comic books with myriad changes and embellishments from the script-writers. Batman Begins was probably less tied to the particulars of the comic book mythology than was any other installment. At the same time, it came closer to getting the character of Batman right for many fans than did previous attempts. I suspect that we are about to see a very different take on The Joker than we've ever seen before. And I don't think there's a chance in Hell we'll be seeing the Keatonmobile. Oh! And I personally think Maggie Gyllenhaal is pretty damned sexy. I'm very much looking forward to The Dark Knight.

The car is tied to the actor playing Batman. The westmobile, keatonmobile, kilmermobile, cloneymobile, and balemobile.
And personally, I don't like the keaton. But I did a kitbash with it.

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.... Maggie Gyllenhaal has replaced Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. Holmes said she didn't want the part. But fans didn't much care for her last time.[ I think she was fine.] If it was because Holmes wasn't sexy enough then Gyllenhaal isn't their answer.

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way better actress than Mrs Cruise!!!!!!!!!

maybe not as cute but still a better choice.

It was announced that Aaron Eckhart (Thank You For Smoking, Erin Brockovich) has taken the role of Harvey Dent...

I thought that Billy Dee Williams was supposed to play that part.??? :p

I know the Tumbler has taken a lot of flack for not living up to certain expectations--and I was also very critical of it early on--but it quickly grew on me once I saw it in action up on the screen. In context of a vehicle that could get bashed about it makes a lot more sense than the overstylized batmobiles of yore.

I hated the Tumbler before the movie came out. Love it now. It is certainly a more realistic take than cars that climb buildings or sprout armor from nowhere. And they actually drove that thing at high speed, which has to count for something.

i agree! after watching the "making of the batmobile" extra in the DVD set, i like it more than ever!!!

All of the Batman movies have been based partially on the comic books with myriad changes and embellishments from the script-writers. Batman Begins was probably less tied to the particulars of the comic book mythology than was any other installment. At the same time, it came closer to getting the character of Batman right for many fans than did previous attempts.I think Batman Begins was an attempt to bring the character out of the comic books and into a real-world setting as much as they could while staying true to the character and it's history and mythology, the first time this has been done since the old black and white serials of the 1940's. I'm looking forward to more of the same in The Dark Knight. Heath Ledger wouldn't have been my first choice to play The Joker, but I'm willing to give Christopher Nolan the benefit of the doubt. Maggie Gyllenhaal replacing Katie Holmes-Cruise? Good move--better actress, better looking. (BTW, Maggie G. looks even better in-person; saw her at a bank in Orange County, California last summer.)

And, since everyone else has offered their "order of preference" regarding the various film-used Batmobiles, here are my top three:

1. Tie between the Keatonmobile and the Tumbler. For me, the design of the Keatonmobile just seems to fit every era The Batman has inhibited; too bad the films aren't as timeless. As for the Tumbler, I didn't like it when I first saw the promotional photos either--looked like a cockroach at a tractor pull. But, like some of you, I was won over when I saw it in action. Unfortunately, 20 years from now I think it'll be considered more a product of the Humvee/SUV generation than one of the great Batmobiles.

2. The Westmobile. Classic. Need I say more?

3. The Kilmermobile. Would have been much better if they'd left that silly-@$$ fin thing off of the roof. :rolleyes:

Other than the Tumbler the only other Batmobiles that work for me are the classic '66 and the Batman TAS batmobile. One of my nephews had a toy replica of the TAS car and it was really cool. I may have played with it more than he did.

I suspect The Tumbler will be "refined" somewhat for the next movie. Still big, bad, and plausible - but sleeker and sexier. Not too much though.

I liked the Tumbler, it had a certain utilitarian charm like the Serentity and Nostromo.

I suspect The Tumbler will be "refined" somewhat for the next movie. Still big, bad, and plausible - but sleeker and sexier. Not too much though.
I could see this being done and it would work for me as long as they don't go overboard with it.

I think he should have Batbike that can really hustle. Those racing bikes are incredible.

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I liked the Tumbler, it had a certain utilitarian charm like the Serentity and Nostromo.

i wish you guys would not use those kind of words..........i always have to look them up..............

I saw The Razors Edge and Lost Horizon on TCM. It reminded me of the same 'quest for knowledge' thing that was in Batman Begins. But they led to inner calm, not butt kicking abilities.

I like 'em all:

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- JJ

Maggie Gyllenhaal has replaced Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes. Holmes said she didn't want the part. But fans didn't much care for her last time.[ I think she was fine.] If it was because Holmes wasn't sexy enough then Gyllenhaal isn't their answer.
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From what I've been hearing, Ms Holmes' hubby has been taking a rather Svengali stance regarding her career. More to the point: she no longer HAS a career!

The way I view Begins and now The Dark Night is that the director assumes the other movies were never made or existed. Oh, the Keatonmobile for me!

From what I've been hearing, Ms Holmes' hubby has been taking a rather Svengali stance regarding her career. More to the point: she no longer HAS a career!

She signed an exclusive long term personal services contract.

I have to say it seems like a waste of Maggie Gyllenhaal...women don't fare too well in these movies unless they're playing Catwoman. Mrs. Cruise had practically nothing to do in the first film...but I assume if they're hiring someone of Gyllenhaal's caliber they'll give her something interesting to do...

I have to say it seems like a waste of Maggie Gyllenhaal...women don't fare too well in these movies unless they're playing Catwoman. Mrs. Cruise had practically nothing to do in the first film...but I assume if they're hiring someone of Gyllenhaal's caliber they'll give her something interesting to do...
Which is the Catch-22 of the situation. If you're playing against Christian Bale, Michael Caine, and Liam Neeson (sp?), you need someone with more heft than Katie Holmes. But you're unlikely to get such an actress unless the part is stronger.

I have to say it seems like a waste of Maggie Gyllenhaal.

Hey, it'll pay the rent.

Personally, I'm ready for the Batman movies franchise to move on to Batman Beyond. The effects are up to the job now.

Is Christopher Nolan slated to direct? The talent of the director has a great deal to do with whether the film is good or not. Personally, I think Nolan did a great job on BB.

Is Christopher Nolan slated to direct? The talent of the director has a great deal to do with whether the film is good or not. Personally, I think Nolan did a great job on BB.

Yes he is. And for the next installment as well.

I was just at;

http://www.dullam-causey.com/

He's building a full size Bridging Vehicle. Wild. [He also has a full size rubber Pammy.]

[He also has a full size rubber Pammy.]


Oooooh sounds like that could be fun

He's building a full size Bridging Vehicle. Wild. [He also has a full size rubber Pammy.]
Don't you usually have to pay extra for that?

[He also has a full size rubber Pammy.]Pfffff. Who doesn't? :p

No, no, no, no. He said rubber. Not inflatable! :p

Maggie Gyllenhaal as Rachel??? :confused:

Maggie has enough of an edge to her that she could play Dr. Harley Quinn, Mr. J's psychiatrist and main squeeze.

Just a thought . . . :cool:

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Other than Batman Begins , I think Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker was one of the best bat-movies made. See the unrated version if you can, it's better than the kiddie/censored version. Though I would have liked it better if the injuries were a bit more realistic. Doesn't have to be bloody. I mean when some fat slob falls fifty feet he does not shake it off and run away. :rolleyes: The cartoon fights take the edge off of the action and the drama for me.

-Leelan

except for the design of the tumbler (which worked but still needed to be bit more stylized to be called "batmobile"... i mean if his little throwing stars were shaped like bats when they didnt need to be, why not the car too? ) i thought batman begins was excellent. im putting my faith in the filmmakers on that the sequel will be equally as good.

The Tumbler was just a military vehicle painted black.
I like 'batmobiles' but the last few looked like a peacock at a masquerade ball.

Everything around the character of Batman has to be intimidating: the suit, the weapons, his actions and the car. No, they don't have to look like a bat, but if you're his target, seeing a bat-shaped shooting star fly by your face gives you the impression he's everywhere and it freaks you out even more. Although I'm more partial to the sleek look, the tumbler continues that tradition of visual fear. Once I thought about it from that angle, the tumbler grew on me.

I thought Bale's/Nolan's idea of using the raspy, edgy voice while in Bat-mode was a nice touch. It again continues the idea of intimidation and provides another measure for Wayne to keep his identity secret.

Everything around the character of Batman has to be intimidating: the suit, the weapons, his actions and the car. No, they don't have to look like a bat, but if you're his target, seeing a bat-shaped shooting star fly by your face gives you the impression he's everywhere and it freaks you out even more. Although I'm more partial to the sleek look, the tumbler continues that tradition of visual fear. Once I thought about it from that angle, the tumbler grew on me.I agree. I thought the Tumbler Batmobile was intimidating enough without having to look like a bat in some way--it reminded me of the tank-like batmobile in Frank Miller's first Dark Knight series, except scaled down so as to be practical.

Terryr's also right--the last couple of movie Batmobiles were far too flamboyant. C'mon, neon and oversized Bat-fins? Are they kidding with this crap? Why would an intelligent vigilante crimefighter who prowls the streets at night put neon all over his transportation that makes it more visible, and big dumb fins on the roof that make it less maneuverable and harder to drive? I don't mind a stylized Batmobile, but at least apply some common sense.

I'm still betting the Tumbler will be subtly streamlined in the next movie. Makes sense as far as Nolan and crew's "plausible" approach to Batman's organic/theatrical progression. If you squint your eyes real hard the original design is somewhat bat-like. It's just a matter of bringing that image out in a more aesthetically pleasing way.

Terryr's also right--the last couple of movie Batmobiles were far too flamboyant. C'mon, neon and oversized Bat-fins? Are they kidding with this crap? Why would an intelligent vigilante crimefighter who prowls the streets at night put neon all over his transportation that makes it more visible, and big dumb fins on the roof that make it less maneuverable and harder to drive? I don't mind a stylized Batmobile, but at least apply some common sense.

Very, very true. That's why the Keatonmobile has been my favorite so far. Stylish, yet plausible (except for the practically sitting on top of a jet engine. Wouldn't it get hot?).

Not necessarily w/the right kinds of insulation. After all, the space shuttle and our more advanced US military aircraft have advanced composite materials that you can touch w/your bare hand and not worry about crisping it literally minutes after shutting down a jet engine or the shuttle landing.

I agree w/you guys on the vee-hickle designs getting sort of crazy as time progressed, too.

Design incorporates a subtle bat motif.

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the last couple of movie Batmobiles were far too flamboyant. C'mon, neon and oversized Bat-fins? Are they kidding with this crap? Why would an intelligent vigilante crimefighter who prowls the streets at night put neon all over his transportation that makes it more visible, and big dumb fins on the roof that make it less maneuverable and harder to drive? I don't mind a stylized Batmobile, but at least apply some common sense.
And don't forget the open canopy! Talk about flashy and stupid! Hello... sniper anyone?

Oh, I never understood the purpose of the Tumbler having the sliding seat to fire the missles & such. WTFrack was that for? :confused:

And don't forget the open canopy! Talk about flashy and stupid! Hello... sniper anyone?

Oh, I never understood the purpose of the Tumbler having the sliding seat to fire the missles & such. WTFrack was that for? :confused:I could suggest a few different half plausible reasons, but regardless, I thought it was cool.

I don't mind a stylized Batmobile, but at least apply some common sense.Very, very true. That's why the Keatonmobile has been my favorite so far. Stylish, yet plausible (except for the practically sitting on top of a jet engine. Wouldn't it get hot?).Of the "stylized" Batmobiles, the Keatonmobile is my favorite as well, followed closely by the Westmobile of the 60's. As far as the more "practical" Batmobiles, the Balemobile is number one.

Oh, I never understood the purpose of the Tumbler having the sliding seat to fire the missles & such. WTFrack was that for?As far as jumping, it makes sense in that it would protect the driver from severe spinal compression (and possible injury) during the landing; I suppose the passenger would just be s.o.l.. :rolleyes: Otherwise, I can't think of a sensible reason for it, and it's one thing about the Balemobile design I didn't care for; it's just not practical.

I wonder if it's even possible. Froma a car seat position to have your legs flip backwards as the seat goes from your butt to your stomach. Ouch.
From the DVD, the window only opens on the prop version. The driven version has a top hatch.