I think E-maxx/ T-maxx would be fun but they can be bigtime money pits. That's why I won't get one. Espcially if you were to race one.
Just my $.02

jb-
an 8t bushless? in the evader? what are you, insane?!?!?!?! i was thinking about doing that, but i want an e-maxx more. if duratrax ever (:rolleyes: ) makes a metal tranny for the evst, i might try it. aluminum bumbers are overkill because you dont bump into anything with the maxx, you just crawl over it. i agree with 22, they are just big money pits. then again, so is every single other rc car...

Originally posted by 22Racer
I think E-maxx/ T-maxx would be fun but they can be bigtime money pits. That's why I won't get one. Espcially if you were to race one.
Just my $.02
I don't plan on racing. That's what my evader will be for. Smojoe's right (and not about that I'm insane:D ). Any car can be a money pit. So can any other hobby be. Think about it: collecting stuff, photography, sports, anything presents you with the oppertunity to sped lots of money. My other big hobby, photography, can be extrememly expensive. Lenses for my camera can go up to several hundred dollars (which is why I only have the one that came with it) People spend lots of money adding things to their collections of whatever they collect. Skateboarding, well a good board could run several hundred dollars also. Same with snowboarded. Anything is a money pit if that's what you make it.
And am I really that insane for thinking about an 8t brushless in an Evader?

yes, you are . i wouldent even think about an 8t brushed in the evader (then again....). on another hand, i got my 3000 mAH ultra metal for my evst. was running for like 20 minutes and i got bored, but i still have like half of it left. i should have got one of these a while ago!!! its going to be untill x-mas till i get an e maxx (hopefully by then) because i have to go back to school in a week and i cant work for money anymore (usually got about 10- 20 bucks a week). i still have tomarro to work and next saturday, so im going to get a p2k2 pro which should last me.

Ok, maybe I am insane, but it would be cool. The ultra metal pack is quite nice, wouldn't you agree? I'm thinking of getting another one for my e-maxx, but they would get way to hot. I'll probably get two more rocket packs. They work very well with the e-maxx. The p2k2 pro is a good motor. That's what I have in my evader now (my p-94 got damaged)

howed your p-94 get busted? maybe from you being to insane? ya, those ultra metal packs are nice. did u get the prebuilt, "vis- whatever" pack, or did you have to build it? im debaiting weather or not i should get a p2k2 pro or some sort of 19t motor (maybe a speed gem). im also debaiting if i should "mass produce" the aluminum bumper and try to sell them (not to take buisness away from you, jep_rc). what would something like that worth? i was thinking between 3-5 bucks. any feedback would be greatly appreciated (just not the negative type)

I have no idea what went wrong with my p-94, but I didn't thrash it. It started acting weird after I understeered a corner and hit a pipe head on. I wasn't even going that fast! Also, I hit the pipe with the front of my car, and the motor is in the back. I think a brush hood was bent or something. If you plan on selling your aluminum bumpers, I would consider one. You could get more than $3-5 for one, though. I would pay $10 at the most. My ultra metal pack was preassembled, although I would like to put my own pack together sometime. I enjoy soldering, so it would be fun.
I have decided on my first E-maxx upgrade: aluminum shocks. I've already popped off 3 caps, and I'm worried to jump my maxx for fear of popping off another. BTW, I wrote up a review for the E-maxx. You should hopefully be able to find it at the review sections of www.teamrcv.com . It might take a few days for it to come up, unless it's rejected.

i would make the bumper, its just i dont want to take away from Jep_RC's bumper. im just not the :devil: kind of guy..

Maybe you could try something different. Think you could make an aluminum front bulkhead?

or just combine both to make the ultimate "run into stuff and not break things" evader bumper. nah, its a stupid idea... a bulkhead you say? that would be hard. i'll start tomarrow....

With a little experimentation it could be done. You should at least try somethng. I need some aluminum on my evader! Have you seen how much some of the aluminum items cost that are actually manufactured by duratrax?!

i know what you mean. 20 bucks for a heatsink/ motor mount. what im doing right now is trying to mount carbon fiber strips on the bottom of my chassy to *hopefully* make it have less flex and pretect it more from rocks (the bottom of my chassy now looks like sandpaper; low grit) i'll look later on today and see what i can make simply (key word here).

Aluminum is expensive, heavy, and bends. Once bent it will never be the same. Your Evader will run better longer with stock parts.

Yes, it does have its downsides, but still, I would like to purchase some aluminum parts, particularly a bumper. It probably wouldn't bend where it is or weigh that much, and it would add some style. Smojoe, if you can, you should try anodizing it.

your right, jb, its doesent weigh that much or bend where it is. it just gets scratched. a lot. i could make one for you if you want. because schools out, i have a lot of free time to do nothing. and anodizing... how would i do that? i dont have the first clue how. there was something about it on the BIG JIM motor fourum, so i'll read that to see how hard it is...

That would be great! HOw much are you asking for the bumpers? As for the anodizing, I've read something that tells you how. You use some kind of acid (can't remember which) and put it in a container, along with the metal, and apply electricity to it. You probably will want to read up on it.

i think i'll skip the anodizing. me and my dad read something on it and hes like "you want ME to do this?!?" all those acids and stuff. its an accident waiting to happen. as for the bumper, i need some new brushes for the photon motor, so i think that will be a good trade...


p.s. how do i post pics? you might want to see it to make sure u want it. also, i want to show you guys my paint job.

What kind of brushes do you need?

i dont know. i'll send it to you free of charge (or trade). i dont really care; i love working on my evader. i'll start work on it tomarrow...

Well, if you were to do a trade, would you want silver race brushes, or something that would last longer. Or how about the 4499 brushes found on the p2k2 pro? They seem nice. I wish I had some nice tools at my disposal... My dad doesn't do many projects, he's more of an electronics/computer guy.

Im thinking of upgrading the photon speed 20t with either the P2k2stock or pro. I have changed the pinion gear to a 23 tooth and the evader screams now. But I think run time has decreased and i lost some torque. If i get either the P2k2 or pro can I expect more low end torque and more high end speed then what I am getting now with the geared up 20T.
What have your results been like. And if not either of the P2k2 then prehaps a different type of motor....

jb- the 4499s sounds good

with the same gearing, the p2k2 seems to have better speed. I'm not sure about torque.

jb-
bumpers done. i have to say, it looks good and will do a very good job of pertecting everything (the top if it hits about a 1/8 of an inch below the body). the only downside is the bottom is "pre- scratched (had a little accident with the dremel), but is doesent look that bad. you can only see the scratch, it feels sooo smooth....

p.s. this would be the brushed motor i would get. the 8t "monster wire" p-94. at the bottom it says "This motor's output exceeds the limit of the Trinity's dynamometers so no RPM or output specs are available." now thats my kinda motor!!!

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXCRM9&P=0

Maybe I should get one of those! My favorite form of auto racing is drag racing. I was thinking of buying a bolink pro stock kit by the end of the summer (really cheap for a kit: $65) and just use equipment I have lying around to finish it. If it weren't for the cost of an esc that could handle that much power, I'd try putting one of those motors in it. Then again, I hear microswitches are cheap, but how would you stop it?

you use a microservo with one arm so when it reaches its peak point, it swiches it on. then when you want to stop, you let go, the servo retracts, and the spring in the microservo switches it off. or something like that...

microservo- $20 (at least the ones my dad got)
microswitch- $5 to $10 at your local radioshack
p-94 8 turn- $80
biolink dragger- $65
cheap radio system- $50
having the little rear foam tires ripped to shreds when you excelerate- priceless

as for stopping, you use the drag of the motor and gear ratio. or just a brick wall. lol

I have an article on making a throttle cutoff safety switch for drag cars at http://teamrcv.com/article.php?sid=16

Originally posted by smojoe

microservo- $20 (at least the ones my dad got)
microswitch- $5 to $10 at your local radioshack
p-94 8 turn- $80
biolink dragger- $65
cheap radio system- $50
having the little rear foam tires ripped to shreds when you excelerate- priceless

as for stopping, you use the drag of the motor and gear ratio. or just a brick wall. lol

If I do get this, I sould be able to just stick in an fm receiver. After aluminum shocks for the E (and maybe some skids) I'm gonna try to get a hitec lynx 3d (or maybe I'll ask for that for Christmas)

Hankster, I have read what you suggested. I mean while the car is moving, not when it's stationary.

My E-maxx review is finally up on the team rcv websight! Special thanks to whoever (I think it was Hankster) fixed it up for me!

JB-
good job on the review! the bumper is ready to be shipped when you are.

Thanks! I'll be going to my lhs this weekend, And I'll pick up the 4499 brushes then. Thanks Again!

i havent even sent it and your allready thanking me? geeze, i must be very special (lol)

LOL. I just appreciate the fact that you would make one for me just for a pair of brushes, and you don't even know me!

4499 brushes are for stock motors. The photon uses mod brushes. There the same size but the curve is the other way.

oh! the 4499's are lay-down and the mod brushes are stand-up (or something like that)!! i get what the person at my LHS was talking about now!!


http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/Gif/Itchscratch.gif

In that case, what kind of brushes do you want?

beats me. reedy more than likely. did you get the pic of the bumper?

which address did you send it too? If you sent it to the aol account, I deleted it accidentally. If you sent it to the worldnet account, I won't be able to check it tonight, and my parents may have deleted. If possible, please resend it to the aol account.
BTW, judging from your previous homer avatar and the itchy and scratchy animation, I take it you are a simpsons fan. I am too.

i sent it to the worldnet address. i'll resend it tomarrow to the AOL one. im a HUGE fan of the simpsons. whenever we go shopping or something i can relate to a simpsons episode in some weird and yet twisted way...

("im currently using a 16 tooth pinion, but i will probly go down to 14 or 13. in a word, its fast. im using it in backyard bashing, and im making it down my diveway (which is 400 ft long) in about 7-10 seconds(this is just a S.W.A.G) and am also geting about 3 times as much higth on my jumps. but i have busted some parts (the diff was the first to go)"

smojoe-I read this posting by you and just wanted to ask if you really got those kinds of number running the p-94 12 turn with the 16 tooth pinion gearing. 400 feet in about 7-10 sec? Those are the numbers im trying to get. So if this set up has been working for you with no problems please let me know...thanks


:)

DOC-
this setup worked good untill i tightend the diff. there is simply WAY to much power to follow a sraight line with a tight diff. also, this was when the motor was brand spankin new, and now that the comm is a little more "wore in" and the magnets have lost some power, im just not getting these results anymore. the day after i posted that i actually went out and timed it and it was about 15 seconds. this was also with a very freshly charged NICD with all its "starter" voltage, which quickly wore off. i guess what im trying to say is that its not going to happen. the setup workes great. its just way to much power for me to handle, so i forbid myself to run it offroad. if your running on compact dirt, or at least semi- compact dirt, you dont have a thing to worry about

Well smojoe,
Thanks for the info. Really what I am trying to do is get my evader to have strong low end torque and if I can at the same time increase its high end to somewhere in the 30s mph. So far I have asked people which motor or set up would achieve this and I have really gotten a straight answer. I asked about the P2k2 motor and it seems that motor will give me the torque i want but Im not sure about the high end speed. But since with electirc motors torque and rpms are tradeoffs I guess i need to find a middle ground motor...Everyone in the forum seem to like the P-94... any suggestions...

ya, the p-94s a great motor. its just how many turns that matter. i got the 12 turn because it had mid to high RPM and a medium amount of torque for a mod motor. its really what type of stuff your running on. personally, i wouldent try to go down further than a 12 turn or your going to start blowing stuff up in the tranny.

so i take it that you had to upgrade your esc if you are running a 12T. What did you get?

it really depends what you want to do. do you want reverse or not? if not, do you want to have a 3 wire or 4 wire esc?

I also have a p-94 with an lrp ipc pro sport esc. It is a great motor. Whatever you do, don't suggest to smojoe an 8t brushless. He'll think you're insane.
Smojoe, I'm on aol right now and am downloading the picture. I stayed at my grandma's house last nigh, so I couldn't download it there, but my mom says we got the email.

lol, but an 8t BRUSHED might work for me. lol sory about eh size of the pic. i cropped it, but its still big...

oh, i have a LRP F1 pro. for the money, its great; but if your dad doesent pay for half (he bought my sprint off me), then its kinda steep...

The pic just downloaded. Looks good! Cool evader body! Can you post pics of that? At least in the picture it didn't look like the stock body. I would like to paint my own body, but it will probably be an e-maxx body first. I wanna get a cheap air compressor for my work area. That will give me an excuse to get an airbrush!
My dad and I are both big simpsons fans.

sure. i'll email a pic of it to you. send it to which; worldnet or AOL?

aol. The computer that has the worldnet account is very, very slow.