i am going to order a p2k2 pro motor for my evader. do i need to get a schotty diode or do i simply install and put on some motor leads? i am getting these cool snap on ones, would like to hear some comments on theses. i recently rebuilt my diff and it slips badly even tightened very hard. i used tamiya tranny grease, could this be the reason? thanks and be nice to your vaders!

Had a bad crash today! ripped the front bulkhead from the chassis. It broke the front brace and the chassis where the front bulkhead attaches. Looks like it will be out of service for a while :(
What purpose does this hinge serve. I was thinking about making a bumper that would wrap under this hinge and bolt to the chassis. this seems to be a pretty weak point on the evader and some kind of wrap under bumper could strengthen this. what do you think?

i am going to order a p2k2 pro motor for my evader. do i need to get a schotty diode or do i simply install and put on some motor leads? i am getting these cool snap on ones, would like to hear some comments on theses. i recently rebuilt my diff and it slips badly even tightened very hard. i used tamiya tranny grease, could this be the reason? thanks and be nice to your vaders!

i have a p2k2 motor and i like it very much. but had the comm cut and haven't gotten the thing runnig again. i did not add anything to the motor before running it. and have never had a glitch issue with this motor. and my radio gear(rx/tx) is sensitive. when one resitor came off my TO rush it glitched like mad.
the diff issue? i would take it apart again, and double check to make sure i put it together right. you could have gotten the slipper and diff springs switched?. i have used tamiya grease(ball diff) on my truck and like it alot.

hope too have helped some
have fun
peter
:)

hey how many teeth is the pinion that came with the rtr electric evader?

hey how many teeth is the pinion that came with the rtr electric evader?

should be 18 tooth 48 pitch

20 teeth, I think just a few originals came with 18 teeth

thanks, ronbeck. did you notice a great difference in speed and run time? i will check out my diff ( i bent my rear inner hinge pins so i am already close to it). thanks and have a good day!

thanks, ronbeck. did you notice a great difference in speed and run time? i will check out my diff ( i bent my rear inner hinge pins so i am already close to it). thanks and have a good day!

it's more toqy then the photon motor. a little less speed but alittle more run time. for me run time is really mesured by how/where i'm driving( ie lots of loose dirt lots or wheel spin= less run time). i like the the team orion rush motor at 19x2 turns. it has ball bearings in in it, and is rebuildable.(but that's also an apple(27 turn stocker) vs orange(19x2 mod).


good luck and have fun.

peter
:)

20 teeth, I think just a few originals came with 18 teeth

I didnt know that. i Definitely have an older model. I got my evader a year ago. i remember reading about the older models having problems and the new ones had come out well before i decided to buy mine. So i assumed it was safe to buy one. Never really considered it much after that. I think towerhobbies screwed me and gave me a stockpiled old model! How long has everyone had their new or old model evaders?

My oldest is over a year old, and had the 20 tooth

I didnt know that. i Definitely have an older model. I got my evader a year ago. i remember reading about the older models having problems and the new ones had come out well before i decided to buy mine. So i assumed it was safe to buy one. Never really considered it much after that. I think towerhobbies screwed me and gave me a stockpiled old model! How long has everyone had their new or old model evaders?

don't blame tower! blame duratrax. they didn't tell anyone aboput he new parts and they are still shipping out old style parts as well! local hobbytown started selling the evader just two months ago and when they received their parts the old slipper was sent. and they didn't know their was "a" newer version(and they guys i talked are hard core). and when i have sent in broken parts i have gotten a mix of new and old.


peter
:)

That seems pretty irresponsible of duratrax. Anyway what are the differances anyone with an old model should be aware of. A list of parts with descriptions so anyone needing replacements can avoid the old and be sure to get the good stuff, would be very nice.

That seems pretty irresponsible of duratrax. Anyway what are the differances anyone with an old model should be aware of. A list of parts with descriptions so anyone needing replacements can avoid the old and be sure to get the good stuff, would be very nice.


the old parts are dull in color(not shinny black),and they don't have a noticable texture to them. the only part i know that has a big design difference is the chassis. the newer one has ribs in it that run from the battery tray to the outside edges. duratrax had a problem with the plastic being to dry(brittle) and air bubbles in the parts.

hope this helps
peter
:)

front bulkhead is also stronger due to extra ribbing

front bulkhead is also stronger due to extra ribbing


eh i forgot about that one! lol but if you have jep's braces(shrug) does it matter! lol


peter
:)

does jeps braces protect from hinge pin bending also?

Ok so every part has been updated:

New parts are a shinier black than the old.
Newer chassis has ribs next to the battery tray
New Front bulkhead also has extra ribs
New Slipper clutch plate is hard anodized and has a dark gray finish while the original has a bright aluminum finish.
New slipper pad is blue while the original slipper pad is white.
Newer evaders come with a 20 tooth pinion instead of the old 18 tooth


BTW, I have found that the anntena tube is crap. Mine broke the first time I turned the truck over. I replaced it with This (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=zr-200a&FVPROFIL=++&search3=Go) . They have been MUCH more durable.

does jeps braces protect from hinge pin bending also?

don't really know i've never bent one. but i would think so the way the braces tighten eveything up.

peter

man, there have been a lot of people saying that duratrax is a smelly company but i now realy respect them. every one complains to duratrax and they actually make changes accordingly. hope fully they continue to to improve there vehicles parts design, they all ready have a loyal customer here!

man, there have been a lot of people saying that duratrax is a smelly company but i now realy respect them. every one complains to duratrax and they actually make changes accordingly. hope fully they continue to to improve there vehicles parts design, they all ready have a loyal customer here!
i do like how they change and upgrade parts,but the fact they don't tell anyone?!(shrug) it's like their hiding something?!

peter
:)

Hi Guys,

I read your posts several days ago about Duratrax and their undercover improvements. I found myself discussing it on another thread and thought I should at least stand up and be counted here.

I agree with jacob, Duratrax has made many improvements to their EVST and I do not feel they owe me any explanations, compensation, or special notifications. I bought it with the understanding that it was RTR not race ready, it's not a monster truck, it's not a rock climbing machine, etc.

How many of us have received notice that our full size vehicles have weakness. Unless the feds make them do it you won't hear about it. It's a buyer beware world.

I've run my truck for over a year with only minor problems and have not needed to spent any money on hop ups. I have added jeps front brace and improved the batts and motor. I just enjoy it and maintain it.

i do like how they change and upgrade parts,but the fact they don't tell anyone?!(shrug) it's like their hiding something?!

peter
:)

Associated does the same thing. They change different parts on thier cars to make them better. Duratrax isnt the only one.

Out of curiosity, what all has been changed? I've been trying to sell my evader with no luck, and I've got two more options to sell it with (ebay and some other site). However, should I be completely unable to sell it, I'll probably just update it.
My friends little brother just got a new evader, but I haven't compared my older model (purchased march 2002) to his new one. So, other than the chassis and the slipper clutch, what is different?

Out of curiosity, what all has been changed? I've been trying to sell my evader with no luck, and I've got two more options to sell it with (ebay and some other site). However, should I be completely unable to sell it, I'll probably just update it.
My friends little brother just got a new evader, but I haven't compared my older model (purchased march 2002) to his new one. So, other than the chassis and the slipper clutch, what is different?

mostly it is what the parts are made of. their were many slight changes as the truck was shipped out. ie, chassis-slippercombos. front bulk head has some extraracing. but that's about all remeber. and sorry to hear no offers on your truck. that's why i haven't even bothered to sell it even though it's not what to run every day. my tast has changed to more monster truck style, and the micro. but it's still fun drive.

peter
good luck on the sale
:thumbsup:

Thanks for the good luck ronbeck.
If I cant sell it i dont mind too much, I'll just have to wait for that B4.
The main reason I want to sell it is the limited parts support for it. If I go to the track and break something (and 90% of the time that something is an idler gear) I'm out of luck. My lhs carries a limited amount of parts for (and unfortunately no idler gears), so parts can be hard to come by.
But yes, it definately is fun to drive.

The main reason I want to sell it is the limited parts support for it.

yah i have more parts then the two hobby stores near me! :freak:
and i hate paying shipping so i don't order online much. i used to work at fedex so i know how little they pay for shipping.
i like the evader alot and it got me hook(strung out?) on rc. and gave me direction to go.

it's nice to have some activity on the boards again.

peter
:)

I have been reading the lastest threads about the changes being made to the Evader, and I think it is great! If Duratrax isn't making changes to the vehicle that is when I would start worrying. I have heard from my LHS that you can cannibalize the Evader with Losi parts - graphite. I am looking into this because personally I think the EvaderST is a great truck and deserves some attention. :thumbsup:

I will post pictures once I complete the transformation.

Rich

I have been reading the lastest threads about the changes being made to the Evader, and I think it is great! If Duratrax isn't making changes to the vehicle that is when I would start worrying. I have heard from my LHS that you can cannibalize the Evader with Losi parts - graphite. I am looking into this because personally I think the EvaderST is a great truck and deserves some attention. :thumbsup:

I will post pictures once I complete the transformation.

Rich
i have done the xx shock towers. they fit well.
good luck.
peter
:)

Actually, I am looking at the XXXT chassis, it appears to look the same.

Actually, I am looking at the XXXT chassis, it appears to look the same.
the shocks mount on the back side of the front arm's on the 3x. the evader is a clone of the xxt. wiht the double xx parts most of the time you just need inlarge the holes were the hinge pines go. their is a older evader page with the parts break down. i'll post it if i find it.
peter
:)

here it is
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=28696&highlight=evader

Yesterday my partner and I got our Evaders out and had a great time. I'm running a SGP 15T and he is running a brushless. Mine was beating him. This truck, with proper care and reasonable driving skills, has been a great RC for over a year.

I hope to keep it for as long as I can as a once a month speed machine. I'm in the process of setting up a epede for daily running. With both trucks I hope I will be able to meet all my RC needs.

:thumbsup:

hey, i have decided to stop using monster tires, they put to much of a strain on the diff. i am purchasing some on road tires soon, would like some suggestion for street tires that offer long life and good traction. are rpm rims pretty tough? my green duratrax ones are already thrashed. will all rims meant for the associated t3 and t4 work on it? thanks, and have a good day.

Jacob-
T3 rims wont fit on an evader. they will, fit, but they bind up. Losi xxxt rims, on the other hand, fit perfectly. The RPM rims should last a while, I would think (at least longer than the duratrax ones.)

Evader Owners,

Has anyone come up with a sand-proof way to seal up the pinion and spur gears on their Evader? The stock plastic cover works OK on the track, but if you bash around in any sand it seems to ALWAYS get inside the cover and lodge a grain or two into the teeth of your gears. I hate having to stop and remove the cover just to pick sand pebbles out!

Is there a way to prevent this? Gaskets? Different Covers? :cool:

oops! Sorry I forgot to give you the gear cover I had on the evader I sold you. It's a rpm asc. gear cover. If you look , there's an extra hole tapped in the motor plate. We use the losi ones on our losi's they work good. If you get around here I can give it to you.
Rex

since you said this is a duratrax discussion i thought that i will talk about my evader st. i love it, i used to have some duribility problems but i installed a xxt front shock tower and body mount, titanium front king pins, and purple anodized front hub carriers. i plan to add many more hop ups including titanium hinge pins, and improved electronics. i have never had any breakage tranny wise but i plan to install stronger parts from 22racer. if you have a evader st or bx please post here with all of the upgrades you have installed. pictures wont hurt!

no offense to anyone who owns a Duratrax car, but why? i dont know about their nitro stuff, but the electric buggy and truck have proven to be crap at the local track. i guess they would make a good bashing buggy since the parts seem to be a little more heavy duty than the XXX or B4 though.

again, not trying to start any kinda flame war and mean no disrespect, just wondering why people would choose one of them over the more popular cars. besides maybe cost, i see no reason. :confused:

When I got started in rc a year and a half ago, I bought an evader st because It had a lot of features at a relatively low price. When set up right it does handle very well. The main thing was the price. At the time, the T3 rtr was $40 more and came w/ bushings, a closed endbell motor, and non threaded shocks, whereas the evader had bearings, an open endbell motor, and threaded shock bodies.
The evader is an excellant model, and in the right hands it could be successful. Its also pretty durable, which is good for a beginner.

You could try to wrap some tape around the gear cover. Duct tape would probably work the best, although it would look really hack lol.

huh??

jacob,
you wanted a list of things right??
losi xxt front arms, jep's front and rear braces, jep's front aluminum bumper, aluminum front hob carriers ( wick help stop the king pins from bending), aluminum rear trans brace( helped to stiffen the chassis), white shock springs and last but not least nitro evader cvd axles ( direct fit... factory upgrade..) oh ya also have a t3 diff gear in the trans, but that was mny fault the factory falled...
my son has been bashing/ racing for over a year now and with the above mods i no longer have to worry about anything breaking. the motor speed control and steering servo have also been replaced.
also if any one needs i have made blank set up sheets for the evader let me now and i will show you the way to get them...

later
matt ames

sounds good, mames. do the nitro evader st cvd make a noticeable improvement? does the xxt rear shock tower fit? dgraham, i got mine because my friend has one and it is not just a copy of a xxt, it is a unique vehicle in it's own right. i couldnt be much happier with my little st!

DuraTrax was showing new "pro" versions of the BX and ST at the Chicago Hobby Show. They include graphite chassis, A arms, shock towers and front brace. Also included is the 12T forward/reverse ESC, a 15T Orion mod motor and a 10 car memory digital transmitter... all for $250.00 street price! Available Shortly

wow thats a pretty good deal. RTR?

Hello again,

I recently pulled out the Evader in hopes to run him a little this weekend now that my Summer job is over with. We have begun to build a track behind my friends house, and it seems to be coming along very well. Anyways, I took Evader off the shelf, plugged in my new 3300 battery, and started running it. About one minute into the run, the wheels stopped turning but I could hear the motor spinning. The pinion and spur were meshing very nicely, so I took it a step further, into the transimission. Everything was intact there as well...nothing stripped, nicely meshed, etc. I put it back on in hopes that maybe the transmission just needed a little bit of fiddling with and would run. Nope :rolleyes: So now I try it without the back wheels on. The dogbones punch perfectly right when I hit the trigger. I put the wheels back on, and now they don't spin...
I fiddled with the slipper and diff adjustments for a good while, miserably failing.

If anyone has had this problem and/or knows a solution, please let me know.

Thanks,
TIM

try holding (one wheel and the spur gear together) and turning the opposite wheel to see if the slipper is slipping or the diff is slipping.

I would think it is the slipper

It is definately the diff because I can hear a grinding noise in the transmission. I looked in it once again, and I notice no teeth worn or anything, but a little bit of loose play in the diff gear (as in it wobbles just a bit in the hole). Perhaps it's not meshing w/ the idler quite right... any suggestions as to mesh them?

Have you made sure your pinion gear set screw is tight?

oh my. you guys, i think it finally happened. i was checking out the nitro evader st on tower and i saw a cooling head made specificly for it. made by golden horizons, not duratrax. this might not be a big deal for you guys but it is HUGE for me. the first hop up made for a duratrax vehicle, but not made by duratrax. i can see it now, rpm making blue suspension arms for it, lunsford complete kits.....