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K-5 CAPER
12-25-2006, 07:19 PM
Now that the kitty is out of the bag,hows about telling everybody about the new chassis Bud?? :wave: :thumbsup:

Donald Deutsch
12-25-2006, 10:48 PM
Here kitty kitty or should I say middy middy.

BudBartos
12-25-2006, 11:20 PM
soon soon !!!!

Micro_Racer
12-27-2006, 10:39 AM
Will it fit Lipo cells?

BudBartos
12-27-2006, 11:09 AM
NO !!

BudBartos
12-27-2006, 05:06 PM
Working on it hope to have pictures Thursday :)

K-5 CAPER
12-27-2006, 10:02 PM
Bud,would the new chassis be best described as a pan car??????????

BudBartos
12-27-2006, 10:20 PM
YES !!!

Sorry no picture till Thursday Camera batts dumped:cry: They were not Power Push !!!

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 12:46 PM
Well here it is the SC18V2M chassis conversion. A new addition to the worlds first real pan car :)
I will not be doing a kit in the near future so just the comversion chassis will be available. The retail price will be $20.00. It is the same wheel base as the SC18V2.
It uses all the parts that are on Your SC18V2 front end just bolts on and also the rear end thats 7 total screws. You have to flip the rear pod plates to put the motor in front of axle. You may need to run smaller receiver and speed control depending on what you have in your car. This car has a Novak GTX speedo, JR rec'v and a personal transponder in it.
Testing on our large track with stock motor and 6 cell has shown a increase of about 1 lap on a 15 second a lap track. The chassis makes the car much smoother gives more rear end bite, transitions turns faster and just handles better.
There is no need for a center shock! and We will not make it in carbon fiber! I have tryed these and did not like them in 1/18th.
If You want one e mail budbartos@oh.rr.com Paypal only $24.50 includes priority mail.

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 12:46 PM
Here is a picture of the bottom.
No I don't run that much toe out it just came out that way in the picture.

Micro_Racer
12-28-2006, 01:00 PM
Bud - will the new chassis be legal in the current point's series?

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 02:17 PM
After much debate and thought Yes it will be !!!This is the first update to the SC18V2 in over 2 years.

K-5 CAPER
12-28-2006, 02:37 PM
Looks good Bud!!!

K-5 CAPER
12-28-2006, 02:42 PM
Did you say the rear body mounts were in a slightly different location than the V2?

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 02:51 PM
Yes they are .920 forward.

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 08:10 PM
Sold 4 today !!!!!!!!!!!

wazzer
12-28-2006, 09:34 PM
Those of you contemplating this conversion with the BRP "Big Block" rear pod option, be advised some minor alterations will be needed to make work. All Big Blocks motors run opposite rotation to the stock 16D motor. They are normally mounted on the right side plate with the regular chassis. Flipping the right plate 180 degrees puts the axle height too high. Swapping left and right sides doesn't work, the motor will rotate incorrectly. Solution: Just lay the right side plate on top of the left, and copy the location of the motor mounting hole and slot. Use a drill and dremel tool to modify the left side plate. Then the left side plate can be used on the right side, with correct axle height and motor rotation.

Whew, I think I just had a Rafster flashback!

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 09:55 PM
Good job Wazzer!!! Hope You do well in indy. We will not be going there is a big race here that we are going to hit. Your chassis went out today priority.

BudBartos
12-28-2006, 09:56 PM
Well here it is the SC18V2M chassis conversion. A new addition to the worlds first real pan car :)
I will not be doing a kit in the near future so just the comversion chassis will be available. The retail price will be $20.00. It is the same wheel base as the SC18V2.
It uses all the parts that are on Your SC18V2 front end just bolts on and also the rear end thats 7 total screws. You have to flip the rear pod plates to put the motor in front of axle. You may need to run smaller receiver and speed control depending on what you have in your car. This car has a Novak GTX speedo, JR rec'v and a personal transponder in it.
Testing on our large track with stock motor and 6 cell has shown a increase of about 1 lap on a 15 second a lap track. The chassis makes the car much smoother gives more rear end bite, transitions turns faster and just handles better.
There is no need for a center shock! and We will not make it in carbon fiber! I have tryed these and did not like them in 1/18th.
If You want one e mail budbartos@oh.rr.com Paypal only $24.50 includes priority mail.
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BudBartos
12-28-2006, 09:57 PM
Here is a picture of the bottom.
No I don't run that much toe out it just came out that way in the picture.
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Kurly
12-28-2006, 10:36 PM
Hey Bud, I dont see it yet on your web site and I need some stuff for the Indy race coming up. Can I put in a note on the order or e-mail you for the chassis along with the parts, is that Ok?

okracer
12-28-2006, 11:28 PM
so if someone was to order a new car would ya exchange a new chassis for the old one lol

Jay Boyd
12-29-2006, 01:22 AM
The new car looks good Bud!

Micro_Racer
12-29-2006, 08:56 AM
Bud - how much lighter is the new "M" chassis?

BudBartos
12-29-2006, 12:26 PM
.oooooo1 grams :)
Jay>> I still have that servo want to sell it???

BudBartos
12-29-2006, 12:28 PM
OKracer>> I could do that.
Kurly>>that is fine.

TheGIMP
12-29-2006, 02:20 PM
Wow - a new chassis! very cool, although many people have already done this mod. The problem we have when we did this is the motor pod sags to the point that the rear pod collects fuzz from dragging on the carpet. Does the new design fix that problem?

Jay Boyd
12-29-2006, 02:34 PM
Bud, I can't sell it because it's going in the new SC18V2M!! I'll place an order in the new year. Any other new goodies?
Say hi to Don. Jay.

BudBartos
12-29-2006, 02:42 PM
Jay>> Got ya.GIMP>> Just increase the bottom damper spring ,I just streached mine slightly. Another racer used a blue spring which is stiffer but I don't have them anymore.

okracer
12-29-2006, 06:52 PM
could ya put two springs together or would that be too much

BudBartos
12-29-2006, 11:13 PM
two would be too much.

ScottH
12-30-2006, 05:24 PM
Bud >>

YOU ARE DA MAN!!!

Guess what I got in the mail today :D:D:D:D:D

K-5 CAPER
12-31-2006, 01:34 AM
Those of you that have either put together a V2M,or are in the process of,what electronics are you using? Me Novak GTX and XXL.

ScottH
12-31-2006, 01:36 AM
I am using a Novak (only until Tekin releases the B1) Micro GT and a Novak XXtra rcvr. I will post up a pic in a few minutes.

ScottH
12-31-2006, 01:51 AM
Here are the pics of the SCVII-M.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/PICT0401.JPG



http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/PICT0400.JPG

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/PICT0402.JPG

K-5 CAPER
12-31-2006, 02:11 AM
Look good Scott--2 double aa in there.What size track do you run on?

ScottH
12-31-2006, 02:20 AM
We are running 4cell AA's. The running line of our track is about 41'. Fast cars can get around it in 2.6-2.7sec. We have taken .5sec off since March.

We are running hand-out motors and 9/52 gearing. We are running the AA's to keep the costs down.

In the handout motors, we are not even running the "handpicked" motors or the Gold-dust brushes. Just stockers and are flying!!

Here are a couple of pics of the track.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/PICT0251.JPG

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/PICT0248.JPG

K-5 CAPER
12-31-2006, 02:24 AM
OK I see the batteries are stacked.What tires do you run there and how many BRP guys are coming out

ScottH
12-31-2006, 02:31 AM
As far as tires, depends on who you ask.

I like the Long-wear greens on the rear and greens up front.

On the number of racers we had 9 trucks and 6 cars last Thursday night. We try to limit the number of racers per heat to 5, but ran all 6 cars. IT WAS A CROWDED RACE, we ended up splitting them for the remainder of the night.

We even ran a 300-lap event after the mains. Lap times on the fast cars were still in the low 2.9 to high 2.8's. Not bad for a $8 battery pack, huh? After the 300-lapper several of us still kept our trucks out and played. I would imagine we could get 500-600 laps easy out of a pack. But, probably around the 450-500 lap mark we would see the lap times really grow.

We run 3-minute qualifiers and 6-minute mains. I TQ'ed with 65 laps in the last race. We get alot pf laps in, trust me! We even have a lap counting system that we all have personal transponders for (they are only $30 each!)

K-5 CAPER
12-31-2006, 02:38 AM
Sounds like you guys are having a good time and not alot of $$.Have you raced anything else?

wazzer
12-31-2006, 10:18 AM
Bud, got mine yesterday. Thanks!

K-5, I'm using either a Novak Atom or Micro GT and a Novak XXL on its side so crystal is easy to access from the top.

BudBartos
12-31-2006, 02:22 PM
Scott>> The little black thing in the center is that the counter infared transmitter? If os does it just shine thru the windshield?

ScottH
12-31-2006, 02:27 PM
Budd>> You got it. Each one has it's own ID number in it and we register the racer with that number, just like the AMB stuff. So far the only trouble we have had in getting them to be picked up properly is installation errors. Covering the transmitter with the wires or it not having a clear line-of-sight through the windshield. The FREE SOFTWARE works GREAT too!

K-5 CAPER
01-01-2007, 02:38 PM
Bud is it just me or does the M allow you to run smaller rear tires??

K-5 CAPER
01-01-2007, 03:20 PM
Sorry for the double post jones,but who locally is running the new M chassis at the gate friday??

ScottH
01-01-2007, 03:29 PM
K-5>> You can not run any smaller a tire on the M than the VII. Both cars are using the same rear motor plates all you do is flip them over. The axle is in the center of the pod plates so the ride height is in the same location.

K-5 CAPER
01-01-2007, 03:48 PM
Looks like there is a slight droop in the rear end(a good thing) that brings center of chassis up a hair.that is with a 6 cell load

BudBartos
01-01-2007, 04:54 PM
K-5 >> Same tires M will sag more.

marlborochippy
01-03-2007, 01:58 AM
how is your Speedo mounted ScottH? it looks like you have it on the t-plate?

ScottH
01-04-2007, 12:11 AM
See tha lexan box that the batteries are mounted in? It is mounted to the side of it.