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PhilipMarlowe
12-16-2006, 12:03 PM
I thought it was pretty decent, and nobody does a "To-Be-Continued" episode as good as BSG. Loved Lucy Lawless's performance and outfit in this one, Dean Stockwell had some good moments too.

One thing was a little confusing to me, was Adama not involved in the decision to hide Sharon's baby? Or was he just feigning ignorance to Sharon & Helo?

On the down side, I'm ready for the Apollo-Starbuck thing to be resolved one way or another, it's feeling really unrealistic at this point. And the music video promo for the Jan 21 conclusion was mind-numbingly bad.

KUROK
12-16-2006, 12:59 PM
I also thought Adama was in on the decision to hide Hera. Hmmm... The flashback clip only showed the doc and Roslin.

The Starbuck and Apollo thing is looking a lot like the Sam/Diane thing on Cheers or Mulder/Scully. It always keeps people interested if there's some reason they can never be together.

Can't wait till next season!

Griffworks
12-16-2006, 02:27 PM
I thought it was pretty decent, and nobody does a "To-Be-Continued" episode as good as BSG. Loved Lucy Lawless's performance and outfit in this one, Dean Stockwell had some good moments too.
Just wanted to point out that this isn't the actual season finale, but the mid-season finale/cliffhanger. Just sayin'. :)
One thing was a little confusing to me, was Adama not involved in the decision to hide Sharon's baby? Or was he just feigning ignorance to Sharon & Helo?
I don't have the reference DVD's here, but I'm pretty sure you're right. Maybe not directly involved in the decision, but I'm pretty certain he knew that Hera was still alive.
On the down side, I'm ready for the Apollo-Starbuck thing to be resolved one way or another, it's feeling really unrealistic at this point. And the music video promo for the Jan 21 conclusion was mind-numbingly bad.
I've still not seen the last three episodes - Wife is going to send them this coming week - but I agree. It's gotten to where it's just plain stupid for those two to be behaving as they are, let alone for anyone to like or trust Starbuck. She treats almost everyone like crap half the time, betrays them occasionally and is just an all around female dog. Who in their right mind - desperate and half-insane from the stress of seeing your civilization pretty much destroyed or not - would put up with her crap for all this time?

PhilipMarlowe
12-16-2006, 03:01 PM
Just wanted to point out that this isn't the actual season finale, but the mid-season finale/cliffhanger. Just sayin'. :)


Somebody needs to clue in the Sci-fi Channel, they ran a few hundred "Don't miss the season finale of BSG" promos.

Griffworks
12-16-2006, 03:24 PM
They did that again...? Man. They did that w/SG-1 and Atlantis last year, as well as BSG.

Yeesh....:rolleyes:

terryr
12-16-2006, 04:52 PM
You know, the season of autumn finale.

jheilman
12-16-2006, 06:34 PM
It's a marketing ploy. That way you get two season finales per season. Ratings grabber?

I agree that the Starbuck/Apollo thing is tiring. Make the decision and live with it. I thought they did with Sam and Dee, but NOOOO, now we get to see more backstory that complicates things. Then the loveboxing episode. Sam's ready to walk and Dee will probably do the same. And what do you bet, if those two DO bow out, there will still be some reason they won't be together. And it will probably be Starbuck who ruins it. Her character has intimacy issues stemming from abuse, so her only wanting superficial relationships makes sense as far as that goes. But, come on Lee! Are you an idiot? Look elsewhere dude.

I expected to see Athena really lose it. She was surprisingly restrained after learning Hera's alive.

I'm anxious to see what ties the temple of five together with the five unknown Cylons. Only when the chosen one enters hmm? Is that Baltar, D'anna or Roslin?

John P
12-17-2006, 09:50 AM
It always keeps people interested if there's some reason they can never be together.


TV producers may think that, but it has the opposite effect on me. Especially after SO DAMN MANY SHOWS have used that tired gimmick - Moonlighting, Cheers, Remington Steele, She-Wolf of London, Dark Angel, Buffy, Picard/Bev, Riker/Troi.

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

:lol:

I be sick of it.

PhilipMarlowe
12-17-2006, 10:33 AM
I'm anxious to see what ties the temple of five together with the five unknown Cylons. Only when the chosen one enters hmm? Is that Baltar, D'anna or Roslin?

I've wondered about that too, I assume it's a given Roslin wasn't a Cylon, but it's certainly possible she received more than a cure from cancer from the Cylon DNA.

I expected to see Athena really lose it. She was surprisingly restrained after learning Hera's alive.

It's the quiet ones you got to keep an eye on.

TV producers may think that, but it has the opposite effect on me. Especially after SO DAMN MANY SHOWS have used that tired gimmick - Moonlighting, Cheers, Remington Steele, She-Wolf of London, Dark Angel, Buffy, Picard/Bev, Riker/Troi.

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!



I be sick of it.

So say we all!

It's unrealistic too, experience and history suggest that when people really want to bump uglies, they will.

Roguepink
12-17-2006, 11:38 AM
It's annoying, yes, but because it reminds me far too much of me and my first girlfriend.

Please let there be an end to it and LEAVE IT ALONE after that. Other characters need some time and attention. Chief and Cally seem to have far more interesting stories yet to tell. Funny that when the series started people all thought Starbuck had some attraction. Guess beauty is skin deep, ugly goes all the way down.

5 unseen Cylons... Temple of 5... the hybrid telling us Baltar is the "chosen one"...



...I need some Doctor Who to relax with.

jheilman
12-17-2006, 01:03 PM
Interesting that the hybrid SEEMED to be saying Baltar was the ONE, but D'anna had a look on her face that indicated she believed she is the ONE.

OOH, I'm betting Hera is the one. The unification of Cylon and human. The unification of the 5 mystery Cylons and the temple of five. The unification of the Cylon God with the human Gods. They have a plan. From the beginning, the Cylon plan involved creating a Cylon/human hybrid. Did they know this was necessary to unlock this Eye of Jupiter riddle? Did the mystery 5 know this was necessary to unify Cylon and Human religion?

John O
12-17-2006, 02:02 PM
Interesting that the hybrid SEEMED to be saying Baltar was the ONE, but D'anna had a look on her face that indicated she believed she is the ONE. OOH, I'm betting Hera is the one.

I dunno, it sure seemed to me as if the Cheif was the ONE. Tyrol has something going on.


They have a plan. From the beginning, the Cylon plan involved creating a Cylon/human hybrid.

While I'm still enjoying the show and my main reasons for returning every week (the characters and their relationships) still exist, any sense that the writers really know where it's all going is pretty much gone for me. Early on I thought a Cylon "plan" revealed over the course of the series could be cool, but if the "plan" ever was, it feels sloppy or at least unfocused now.

John O.

Zombie_61
12-17-2006, 03:37 PM
"They have a plan."

I think the writers have gotten as lost as the rag-tag fleet. :rolleyes: Each episode is engaging, but the dissention in the Cylon ranks shows a lack of unification necessary to succeed in any plan of this magnitude.

Then again, maybe that's what the writers are aiming for--Cylons who eventually become very aware (and more understanding) of why humans are the way they are, because they find themselves experiencing our sense of individuality for themselves?

Eric K
12-17-2006, 05:55 PM
My impression is that Sci-fi and USA always start their seasons in January, break until summer and then stop in the Fall/late fall.

Yes? No?

toyroy
12-17-2006, 07:08 PM
If I knew how to program such things, I'd make a Whack the Starbuck game.

Griffworks
12-17-2006, 08:44 PM
My impression is that Sci-fi and USA always start their seasons in January, break until summer and then stop in the Fall/late fall.

Yes? No?
No. SciFi has been starting some series in mid-Summer, but they started this season of BSG in October. The season will end sometime in May, I think it is.

spe130
12-18-2006, 06:15 AM
Is it just me, or was the white Colonial uniform worn by Baltar's vision of Boomer VERY reminiscent of the BSG-TOS "Ship of Lights" Colonial Warrior uniforms? :hat:

PerfesserCoffee
12-18-2006, 08:34 AM
OOH, I'm betting Hera is the one. The unification of Cylon and human. The unification of the 5 mystery Cylons and the temple of five. The unification of the Cylon God with the human Gods. They have a plan. From the beginning, the Cylon plan involved creating a Cylon/human hybrid. Did they know this was necessary to unlock this Eye of Jupiter riddle? Did the mystery 5 know this was necessary to unify Cylon and Human religion?

Yep! I reckon that Dr. Hera Zee will be the ONE as well. I predict that she'll grow up to have a chubby round face, blond hair, and wear round lensed glasses. :thumbsup:

terryr
12-18-2006, 02:16 PM
Hera Zee? Heresy?

cbear
12-18-2006, 03:56 PM
spe130

It wasn't just you. I thought the same thing.

Chuck

toyroy
12-18-2006, 04:52 PM
Yep! I reckon that Dr. Hera Zee will be the ONE as well. I predict that she'll grow up to have a chubby round face, blond hair, and wear round lensed glasses. :thumbsup:
If she's the least bit "precocious", I hope a big, nasty Cylon crams her down the wood chipper. :thumbsup:

Roguepink
12-18-2006, 06:56 PM
It's with some pleasure I notice the total absence of Boxey in the new series. NO FRAKKING KIDS. I think Weasley Wesley did us all in on that one.

Zombie_61
12-18-2006, 07:06 PM
It's with some pleasure I notice the total absence of Boxey in the new series. NO FRAKKING KIDS. I think Weasley Wesley did us all in on that one.I seem to recall one episode (or maybe it was in the "miniseries") where someone introduced a young teenage boy named Boxey to one of the main characters. But the way it was done wasn't "Here's a new character," it was much closer to "Okay, we've mentioned Boxey, now let's never speak of him again." :thumbsup:

spe130
12-18-2006, 07:39 PM
Boxey showed up in the miniseries, and was in several scenes either written or shot during the first season...which were all cut.

Griffworks
12-18-2006, 09:43 PM
I for one would have loved to have seen what Moore and Eicke could have done w/a Boxey character. I'd rather not have seen anything ever so slightly resembling TOS Boxey, but what they were sort of starting to do with him in the several Season One episodes that he shows up in - yes, all cut scenes except one, I believe. The potential for yet another story angle was intriguing to me.

jheilman
12-18-2006, 09:52 PM
Yep! I reckon that Dr. Hera Zee will be the ONE as well. I predict that she'll grow up to have a chubby round face, blond hair, and wear round lensed glasses. :thumbsup:

PLEASE NO!!! How about she enters the temple and activates the whatsisthingy that points to earth and the Cylons promptly incinerate her? And because she's not a true Cylon, she can't download.

With regards to that virus the Cylons feared could wipe them out via download. What if Hera is killed and CAN download. Could her human makeup infect the resurrection ship(s) in a similar manner? To paraphrase The Matrix, human cells could act as, "A virus. Human beings are a disease...".

PerfesserCoffee
12-19-2006, 08:08 AM
Hera Zee? Heresy?

Well that does it! That's PROOF that my conspiracy theory hit the nail on the head! :p

toyroy
12-20-2006, 01:55 AM
Well that does it! That's PROOF that my conspiracy theory hit the nail on the head! :p
I'll bite: which one of your conspiracy theories are we talking about, now?

PerfesserCoffee
12-20-2006, 08:35 AM
I'll bite: which one of your conspiracy theories are we talking about, now?


Well, let me check my rolodex here . . .

Ah! Here it is:

Hera will be the TNS equivalent of TOS's "Dr. Zee."

(It's a screenwriter's conspiracy of sorts to build up our hopes and really get us into the series for several years before they hit us with the biggest possible letdown known to mankind--Dr. Zee :tongue: )

toyroy
12-20-2006, 08:34 PM
...It's a screenwriter's conspiracy of sorts to build up our hopes and really get us into the series for several years before they hit us with the biggest possible letdown known to mankind--Dr. Zee...
Yes, that WOULD lay there, and smell real bad.

terryr
12-23-2006, 02:19 AM
It's amazing that they had the whole planet to land on and they ended up walking distance from the hidden cave.

And if they're after algae what are they doing in the desert? It must be space algae.

spe130
12-23-2006, 03:15 AM
It's amazing that they had the whole planet to land on and they ended up walking distance from the hidden cave.

And if they're after algae what are they doing in the desert? It must be space algae.

Umm...go back and look at the establishing shots of the camp. The valley where they set up shop ends in water.

terryr
12-23-2006, 03:15 PM
I must have glazed over. Still, the camp should be on the beach, or in the water. Didn't they bring any boats?

ClubTepes
12-24-2006, 01:05 PM
Didn't they bring any boats?

Unfortunatly, the industrial replicators had to be left behind on New Caprica.
Packing those things up surely would have tipped off the Cylons that something was up.

terryr
12-24-2006, 01:11 PM
The chief made a stealth spaceship but a canoe is out of reach.

Anyway, it looks he's busy figuring out the secret meaning of the eye.

El Gato
12-24-2006, 07:27 PM
They had several "establishing shots" of the star, which interestingly enough looks like an upside down eye. Would the eye in the temple align with the star, creating a direction for Earth?