[QUOTE=plcust]Hello


My first set of questions on here is what radio seems to be the best for the money? I've decided on the Futaba 3PKS with the 2.4ghz module. With this set up will I need a transponder


Depending on what track you attend. They will either have a transponder you can just put in the car,the old amb system. some tracks use the personal transponders in which you can keep it in your car. there around $80 to $90 Buck's. some tracks offer transponder rental for the day. It would be best to ck with what track you will be racing at to see what they have to offer. :thumbsup:

I received an email from Scott today. The heating element in his channel bender went out and he is trying to get it going this week. He is sending the rest of my orders out today, then the bumper channels once his machine is up and going. He did apologize for the delay and did state that he normally does not operate that way.

One has to appreciate his honesty and I do.

Tim

NitroWolf. Thats a good deal. Does Scott sell his channel in bulk length. rather than premade to length parts? Thanks

Dunno that question. I'm not sure if his bender would handle long lengths? You might give him a call. I wonder how the length would affect shipping rates?

Tim

I received an email from Scott today. The heating element in his channel bender went out and he is trying to get it going this week. He is sending the rest of my orders out today, then the bumper channels once his machine is up and going. He did apologize for the delay and did state that he normally does not operate that way.

One has to appreciate his honesty and I do.

Tim

I ALWAYS HAD GREAT DEALINGS WITH SCOTT .I WOULD GET MY ORDER WITHIN 2-4 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT I ORDER IT.I HOPE TO GET ONE OF HIS CARS THIS YEAR IT LOOKS SWEET :thumbsup:

I ALWAYS HAD GREAT DEALINGS WITH SCOTT .I WOULD GET MY ORDER WITHIN 2-4 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT I ORDER IT. :thumbsup:

This is what I'm understanding from reading the posts. I think he has some very good support. It will take that good support to continue with good service in this hobby.

I will continue to buy from the leading Mfg's including Scott. I'm also keeping my fingers crossed on the possibility of a new ride this year. Only time and money will tell :thumbsup:


Tim

I hear ya on a new ride. getting tough to choose what to get. Nice rides no matter what.

Id like to have one of each in the stable. But if im gonna dream, dream big.

Ahh, the choice is the easy part. :) The money is the hold up.

Does anyone know where a person can get a couple Phenolic carb manifolds. to fit the smaller bore WYK or WYL series carbs. That are QSAC Legal? ZENOAH G230.
prefer about 410 to 420 bore. Thanks I need a couple of them. Thanks much Paul

scott at cat 5 has the legal spacers.or you can try to figure out the right one on daves motors.

Just curious what people use to scale their cars?

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Belf, Thanks for the info.

Chip. Has your car arrived yet?

March.and it oughta be warm enough to let-em RIP!!!!!!

Slider,
Just getting the accessories before the car. Everything at once is just to much to think about. I have decided on the Pro 1. I talked to Allen Johnson Saturday and he had some really goods points about it that I liked.
Later,
Chip

Chip,

I agree on your choice. Jim is committed to 1/4 scale & he builds a great car. Allen would know this... he was building the chassis for Pro1. I hope to own one soon myself.

Nothing against the rest they are all good cars. I own WCM's now BUT a man is gotta do what a man is gotta do :)

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As important as today's internet is to racer's you would think the Mfg's would keep their sites close to updated...right? Well after visiting all of them tonight, I found two up to date. Wanna guess who?

As important as today's internet is to racer's you would think the Mfg's would keep their sites close to updated...right? Well after visiting all of them tonight, I found two up to date. Wanna guess who?

Pro1 and Cat-5???

JB

Joe,

You are correct!

Makes you wonder why good information is not being offered?

I think it's because the others really dont care. If a few more people were building cars mybe there attitude would change. There needs to be alot of changes in 1/4 scale if it's going to survive thats for sure. technology along with alot of other things are passing the sport by. Before you know it theres not going to be a sport. I bought a bunch of mags of ebay to look at some old 1/4 scales. Funny thing is back then the cars cost more than they do now but there were cars everywhere racing. You look at national events. there were four times as many cars back then as there is now. Oh well enough rambling. I hope we get some new builders in the sport we need them.

I think you will find that in all forms of RC. the count is down across the
board. many more types of cars, more classes offered now, less people
(it appears ) over all racing. reason could be dollar doesn't go as
far as it used to 15 years ago. (bills) more people working odd hours that
keep them from wanting to spend money on something they only will be
able to do occassionly.

I agree with that to a point. How many ads for 1/4 scales have you seen since about 90-91. I think it was R/C cars that had a couple pages about them a few months ago, also QSAC had an ad in the same issue. Thats the first thing I have seen about 1/4 scales in years. If people don't know about these cars there not going to get interested in them. Back in the day car companies all had ads. Thats how you sell cars. personally I dont think they want it to grow. Most of the manufacturers can't even keep up with the demand now. you usally have to wait to get a car. What, do they wait till you call to build them. If I was building cars I would have at least five complete cars at all time. At the beginning of the season last year I called two different companies to buy three cars. All I got was " I want have any for at least a month". The start of racing season and no cars. I am building a car from scratch and it is almost finished. I have about 10 hrs in the car. They build these cars and can't get three cars together in a few days. That is $4000.00 worth of sales they missed. I wish I could pass up money like that. QSAC prouds itself on being "the best kept secret in R/C" how stupid is that. We don't need to be the best kept secret, we need to be the The biggest and baddest thing in R/C. You can look on forums here and other places. When people see these things they are blown away by the size of them, first thing out of there mouth "I want one"

As far as money. Look how many 1/5 scales are being sold everyday. They are'nt selling cheap either. People spend alot more on them then we do on our cars. They have hop-up parts which you can't even buy anymore for 1/4 scales. they buy a car for $1000.00 bucks then turn around and put another $1500.00 in aluminum and brakes. $700.00 for front and rear hydro brakes. That is crazy but people are doing it.

Believe it or not, we are making a difference in 1/4 scale now. :thumbsup:

HobbyTalk is just one of many forums for R/C out there but it is one of the "most viewed".

Positive views & suggestions along with pictures & good information for the regulars & newbie's all will keep the trend moving in a positve direction. So, let's stay active!:thumbsup:

Well said my friend. I keep trying to promote the hobby to people that have never seen them. They have no idea how close it is to the full size latemodels and winged sprints. One close encounter, and they are hooked.

sometimes it does seem to take a while to get a car. remember that some of these guys have regular jobs they go to. so only work on building
a few hours each night. they also have families that want to spend some
time with them. Also sometimes other parts havent been delivered to
them. sometimes they are waiting on parts like a carberator.
cars are done but for some reason they are waiting on others to complete
the car. also they may have 5 cars sitting there already spoken for.
when you call for cars or parts, YOU are not the only one asking and buying.
i know a builder that with in a month had 25 cars ordered. and everyone
expecting theres in a week. and while he is trying to build cars, people are
calling and ordering parts, making purchases online that he isn't aware of
until he checks the computer. ("only takes 3 days to ship") . yeah but after he sees your order, packs it up, takes it down with other packages to ship.
would be very ineffient to do each separately. in the mean time he
is supposed to be building your car, your buddies car and 5 other cars at the same time you expect an online order in 3 days. and these cars are
COMPLETE. not the car and a bag of parts your supposed to figure out
how to attacht them to the car with no instructions or hints.
If you ask me its a logistical nightmare.
with Freddies stocking a full set of parts and cars, it will make things
easier for someone to get things faster. but it will take time. while freddie is
waiting for his parts for the wall, someone else is waiting for theirs.
all the cars and parts are not made in some assembly line in japan or china, and sitting in a warehouse waiting for you to order , like most 1/5 cars
and believe it or not they are not making a killing in profits to hire a
group of poeple to speed the process up. your quality goes down most of
the time that way . anyways, im glad im not trying to build these cars for
others to enjoy. I find it hard enough finding time to work on my own car. :thumbsup:

sometimes it does seem to take a while to get a car. remember that some of these guys have regular jobs they go to. so only work on building
a few hours each night. they also have families that want to spend some
time with them. Also sometimes other parts havent been delivered to
them. sometimes they are waiting on parts like a carberator.
cars are done but for some reason they are waiting on others to complete
the car. also they may have 5 cars sitting there already spoken for.
when you call for cars or parts, YOU are not the only one asking and buying.
i know a builder that with in a month had 25 cars ordered. and everyone
expecting theres in a week. and while he is trying to build cars, people are
calling and ordering parts, making purchases online that he isn't aware of
until he checks the computer. ("only takes 3 days to ship") . yeah but after he sees your order, packs it up, takes it down with other packages to ship.
would be very ineffient to do each separately. in the mean time he
is supposed to be building your car, your buddies car and 5 other cars at the same time you expect an online order in 3 days. and these cars are
COMPLETE. not the car and a bag of parts your supposed to figure out
how to attacht them to the car with no instructions or hints.
If you ask me its a logistical nightmare.
with Freddies stocking a full set of parts and cars, it will make things
easier for someone to get things faster. but it will take time. while freddie is
waiting for his parts for the wall, someone else is waiting for theirs.
all the cars and parts are not made in some assembly line in japan or china, and sitting in a warehouse waiting for you to order , like most 1/5 cars
and believe it or not they are not making a killing in profits to hire a
group of poeple to speed the process up. your quality goes down most of
the time that way . anyways, im glad im not trying to build these cars for
others to enjoy. I find it hard enough finding time to work on my own car. :thumbsup:

Man, I'm glad you typed ALL this, b/c I was getting ready to do it too! LOL

Well, I don't care about the other people buying cars or parts. If you are in the business to sell cars and parts then you do just like any other business STOCK up. You know you are going to sell cars and parts. Don't wait till someone needs it to make it. If you can't afford to have a stock of parts and cars available then you don't need to be in the business. When I need a part I am not concerned about other peoples parts just like YOU would'nt be concerned about my part. If I am spending thousands of dollars with a company if they want to keep my business then they need to be a COMPANY and have support for there product. Like I said in my an earlier post. I could'nt even get a return call after leaving several messages with a manufacturer. Thats why I we bought Scotts cars. Scott has yet to let me down. I can call him on a Sat. before a main and say "what the hell, this thing was fast earlier what happened" It's a dumb question but he answered the phone. That is customer/product support, And I have never met Scott face to face.

Also like in an earlier post. Some one said about the web sites. Go read the guest book on company #1 site. Someone has been on there writing some really crappy things and nobody has even noticed. company # 2 new site is still the same for I dont know how long. I'm not going to mention there names because I'm not going to publicly put someone down thats not going to help either. A person thats new to the hobby will not have good first impressions about either one of those company's. The sport does'nt need that. You come on here and jump at me for telling the truth. The point is they need to step up if they are going to compete for sales against the other large scale cars. Because right now they are falling WAY behind. I personally think that sucks because I have always loved 1/4 scales and always wanted to race them, But the best days of this sport are gone. politics and a barrel of other things have stimulated the growth of this otherwise great sport.

You can say what you want about they need to spend time with family and they need to do this and that. I'm all for that when the work is done. I own a masonry company and I kill myself everyday laying brick and block. I keep my customers happy and I do WHATEVER it takes to get the job done. Thats what pays my bills and allows me to support my family and spend money on these cars. So I don't want to here about working hard to keep up, Let them Have my job for a week!!!!!!!!!

BTW: They should offer the cars as a Kit. They would have less time in them which means they could sell them a little less and mybe get a few new people involved in the process. I have a promo vidoe from WCM back in the day they sold things like that to get interest. They had there sprint, super modified, and GN in kit form. How hard would it be to make a instruction manual and count out nuts, bolts and hardware. They have to do these steps already when they build them.

I'm not bashing anybody here. I am just pionting out problems that I hear from the track or things I read about peoples experiences. People don't have to buy these cars they can buy others just as easy. BUT if you have the car when they are wanting one you have a customer. You tell someone that wants a car "it'll be about a month" what are they going to do? They are either going to buy from someone else or they're going to buy something else. There is NO reason to have to wait two, three, four weeks for a car PERIOD!!!!!

If racers had the chance to assemble their own ride, it would give them the chance to learn more about the chassis. On the other hand, if you tell the Mfg where you run, they usually send the car with a setup close to what it needs to be. Also, if it comes pre-assembled, it is easier for the Mfg to see if a part maybe missing before sending it out.

I waited 6 weeks on my new WCM back in 2003. It was worth the wait to me. I may complain about a non-updated site but I'm not going to complain about the wait time on the build & assembley of a 1/4 scale. I know the amount of time that goes into just one build. I couldn't imagine coming home from a eight plus hour job and then spend the rest of the night in a shop building these cars. If not for their love for the hobby, we would not have what we get now!

I do agree, messages should be replied to. Also, support parts need to be shipped asap and non-stock/back ordered parts should be noted on the sites.

Just my thoughts.

remember these things god 1st family 2nd work 3rd if i have to wait on cars or parts so be it i know i will get them eventually

Joe Goodwin email me please!

remember these things god 1st family 2nd work 3rd if i have to wait on cars or parts so be it i know i will get them eventuallySounds good in theory, but that's about it.

Sounds good in theory, but that's about it.

Yeah, I guess you are right. It seems my job always comes first now-a-days.

I agree, The bad part is it should be in that order. But tell our bank this when we don't have our house payment and we'll be living in the streets. It is unfortunate, but true.

I agree, The bad part is it should be in that order. But tell our bank this when we don't have our house payment and we'll be living in the streets. It is unfortunate, but true.
done been there done that almost lost everything i had but not do to the order i said but the economy was job less for months a few years back now is better than ever could not afford the things i am doing now back then like i said with out god,family,and work we could not enjoy the things and or hobbys we do thats the same for everybody not trying to come off as a precher or anything cause iam far from a saint but i do have morals and standards in the way i live and have some oval fun :thumbsup:

Well thanks for not taking offence to my post. When it comes to religion I don't like to say anything because I respect what people believe in. I'm glad everything is better for you now.

Well thanks for not taking offence to my post. When it comes to religion I don't like to say anything because I respect what people believe in. I'm glad everything is better for you now.
THATS ALL THAT MATTERS BRO IS RESPECT WITHOUT THAT WE WOULD NOT BE WHO WE ARE TODAY cant wait till it warms up so we can get these big units on the track and have some fun :thumbsup:

I agree, I am planning on coming down there to at least one race. I ran easley this past season. Had alot of fun. We are going to be running a 1/10 scale dirt oval series this year so the 1/4 scales will have to sit a few weekends. Good thing about that is I wont be running for points in 1/4's so I can take some road trips to run them. I also plan on running at Insanti(hideaway) and at boulder city.

My 1/4 scale has been sitting here. and every now and then i look over and i see a tear or 2 running down her windsheild. How bad has yours got it?

My 1/4 scale has been sitting here. and every now and then i look over and i see a tear or 2 running down her windsheild. How bad has yours got it?
Sometimes I cry a tear or two because I live in northeast ohio and winter blues are in full effect. I just rebuild my car and clean it very well, two or three times!

Sometimes I cry a tear or two because I live in northeast ohio and winter blues are in full effect. I just rebuild my car and clean it very well, two or three times!

hey ryon you just save those tears for this summer when im spankin you!!!!!!lol :thumbsup: hey you gunna come run freddies this summer on his new track he is putting in its gunna be awesome.

later chris

hey ryon you just save those tears for this summer when im spankin you!!!!!!lol :thumbsup: hey you gunna come run freddies this summer on his new track he is putting in its gunna be awesome.

later chris
Alright Colonel Klink, you and Ricky Bobby got it comin'. I can see right now it's gonna be bad! LOL GOGREEN33

Ok guppies, Let look at the BIG picture for a min. We need to send out some e-mails to other tracks throughout the country. It seems we only have maybe 4-5 tracks represented on this forum. If we want to promote 1/4 scale as a hobby, we must do it as a whole, we must work together with everyone.

We need to get others across the country to chat, and have their own track thread going so we can share ideas and work together to get more and more people into 1/4 scales.

Ok enough with the PEP talk lets get hopping !

I hear ya. That's why I asked Hank to start this forum. I am also trying to get sponsorship for QSAC as a whole, so we can create a few more national events and promote them. There are several avenues QSAC is pursuing to get people interested again.

We have the Nextel cup in NASCAR, I was thinking the NGK Grand National, or how about a Bishop Tire classic? I think this would help the hobby out and also provide a cheap, but effective venue for the sponsors to advertise.

Time will tell, but we got a good start going here. Folks like you are what make it happen...

Well I will le a little cat out of its bag. I have been kicking it around with some of my guys about holding a Freddie's 500 towards the end of the year. ( August/September ) time frame.

It would be set up just as a Nascar race would be. We would run qualifiers a day or two before hand depending on the amount of interest, We then would take the fastest 20 cars and run them together for 500 laps, Green flag pits, Caution pits with a pace car and the whole bit.

After our little hour -hour and a half race we would have a giant picnic, I would have a pig and ox roasting all that day, and then sort of have a block party for all to enjoy. I think it would be really nice to have a event like that with the magnitude to make an impact on the hobby as a whole.

I hold my " Big Race" each year the second week in January for the 1/10 scale oval crowed. This year I gave away just under 3 grand in door prizes. I would expect to do the same for that race also, with ONE trophy going to the winner. I expect to lose money the first year or so on the race but am banking on what could be. Once again taking a gamble. Someone has to :)

Freddy, We need things like that to happen. The 1/4 sport as a whole is just lacking excitement. I would make a trip up there for something like that.

keep us posted.

I sure will we are going to have it, its just making sure we do not conflit with anyones schedual.

I think it will be a lot of fun. :hat:

Well I will le a little cat out of its bag. I have been kicking it around with some of my guys about holding a Freddie's 500 towards the end of the year. ( August/September ) time frame.

It would be set up just as a Nascar race would be. We would run qualifiers a day or two before hand depending on the amount of interest, We then would take the fastest 20 cars and run them together for 500 laps, Green flag pits, Caution pits with a pace car and the whole bit.

After our little hour -hour and a half race we would have a giant picnic, I would have a pig and ox roasting all that day, and then sort of have a block party for all to enjoy. I think it would be really nice to have a event like that with the magnitude to make an impact on the hobby as a whole.

I hold my " Big Race" each year the second week in January for the 1/10 scale oval crowed. This year I gave away just under 3 grand in door prizes. I would expect to do the same for that race also, with ONE trophy going to the winner. I expect to lose money the first year or so on the race but am banking on what could be. Once again taking a gamble. Someone has to :)

This sounds like FUN! They have a 500 lapper every year in TX. called the Southern 500.

Lets make yours the "Freddies 499" ? LOL

This sounds like FUN! They have a 500 lapper every year in TX. called the Southern 500.

Lets make yours the "Freddies 499" ? LOL


Or Freddie's 501, better yet ! :thumbsup:

We will stick with 500 its the norm :wave:

How about hosting something like a sprint 150 sometime during the year?? Just a thought, maybe we could hear from the other sprint guys on this idea. HMMMMM Wingless anyone :thumbsup: