View Full Version : BSG - Episode 3.10 - The Passage


jheilman
12-11-2006, 10:33 PM
Opinions?

I thought it was a strong outing if a bit predictable where things were headed with Kat.

I really like how Galactica shows space as a hostile environment. They've done that from the beginning better than most shows. Flying through the nebula was truly scary. No clue if you were going to broadside another vessel any second. Well done.

I also really enjoy that the show moves you with such little things. Adama pulling up a chair at the end meant a lot and really showcased the difference between him and Starbuck. They both gave Kat what they thought she needed most at the end.

El Gato
12-11-2006, 11:57 PM
Yeah, I liked Kat. :( I don't know why they did that with her character. Though I appreciate shows that kill off characters just to knock viewers out of their complacency.

terryr
12-12-2006, 12:37 AM
Maybe the actress wanted more money.

How did they know that algae planet was in there, and why isn't the algae radioactive?

spe130
12-12-2006, 07:12 AM
The planet isn't "in" anything - it was just on the other side of that star cluster. I think Athena found it when she was using a Raptor to scout ahead. Because of the (dramatically convenient) contamination of the food supply, the only way they could get to the planet in time was through the cluster, instead of going around.

PerfesserCoffee
12-12-2006, 08:40 AM
As long as the "convenient" events don't happen too often, maybe we can attribute it to Murphy's Law this time. :tongue:

I think that it is a good thing that they kill off characters (as long as they STAY dead). If the actors and actresses are any good, they'll eventually want to do other things so that BG gets the benefit of their contributions and they're able to advance their careers.

PhilipMarlowe
12-12-2006, 09:01 AM
I knew Kat (or at least one of the raptor pilots) was dead meat about the third time they reminded us that when the radiation badge turns black, ,<Best Mr Mackey voice> it's bad, ok?

BSG is usually better about not telegraphing what's going to happen, best example was not showing any hint of there'd be a space battle in the previews for the episode where the Pegasus goes out in a blaze of glory.

Still a decent episode though, the scenes of the Raptor's canopy and skins burning off were VERY well done. And I really liked the scene where Adama and Tigh broke up laughing because the only alternative was to cry or hit something.

terryr
12-12-2006, 11:12 AM
She scouted ahead into a radioactive cloud? What for? And remember, they can't see and the instruments don't work.
Did each ship have its' own algae collection system?

Too many plot holes this season.

John P
12-12-2006, 09:01 PM
If you want every little thing that happens explained to you in boring detail, there's a Voyager marathon coming up on Spike TV. :p

jheilman
12-12-2006, 09:32 PM
OUCH. :wave:

I agree if you analyze everything to death, you will find plot holes. But when the end product is this good, you tend to forgive a little.

Roguepink
12-12-2006, 10:36 PM
Yeah, really, so frakking what?

Adama the Tigh laughing about the "paper shortage" had to be one of the most human scenes I've ever seen in a science fiction series. Yes, sometimes you DO have to laugh to keep from crying.

El Gato
12-13-2006, 12:12 AM
If you want every little thing that happens explained to you in boring detail, there's a Voyager marathon coming up on Spike TV. :p

Yet somehow, the big plot resolution on Voyager sometimes leaves you saying, "¿Huh?" Know what I mean?

spe130
12-13-2006, 01:39 AM
She scouted ahead into a radioactive cloud? What for? And remember, they can't see and the instruments don't work.
Did each ship have its' own algae collection system?

Too many plot holes this season.

1) As a Cylon, Athena is apparently more resistant to radiation than humans.

2) They needed to see what was on the other side of the cluster and to see if there was a way through.

3) We'll find out how they collect the algae next week.

John P
12-13-2006, 08:46 AM
Yet somehow, the big plot resolution on Voyager sometimes leaves you saying, "¿Huh?" Know what I mean?

Si! :)

3) We'll find out how they collect the algae next week.

Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't really matter. The point of needing food and collecting algae was that it drove the actual plot THIS week. Next week's ep may take place long after the food crisis has been resolved.

terryr
12-13-2006, 12:13 PM
It's one thing to overanalyze it. [ like trek fanboys explaining how the warp engines work. THEY DON'T! ) But If you can ask these questions as you watch it then somebody didn't do their homework.
Maybe they're working on the spinoff. [which could easily fail]

[If you knew someone on drugs would you call him on it, or make excuses for him?]

PerfesserCoffee
12-13-2006, 01:09 PM
[If you knew someone on drugs would you call him on it, or make excuses for him?]

Make excuses. I don't have the time nor the mental energy to deal with such drama. :p

PhilipMarlowe
12-13-2006, 01:17 PM
It's one thing to overanalyze it. [ like trek fanboys explaining how the warp engines work. THEY DON'T! ) But If you can ask these questions as you watch it then somebody didn't do their homework.
Maybe they're working on the spinoff. [which could easily fail]

[If you knew someone on drugs would you call him on it, or make excuses for him?]

Yes, because a TV show not answering every plot point to your satisfaction is just like having a friend on drugs.

It's a frakkin' TV show :freak:

I'm a lot more forgiving of the truthiness of hyperspace than hyperbole!

terryr
12-13-2006, 02:38 PM
truthiness?

PhilipMarlowe
12-13-2006, 02:49 PM
truthiness?

Yes, truthiness.


Not only is it officially a word now, it's Merriam-Webster's "word-of-the-year".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/info/06words.htm

Nova Designs
12-13-2006, 03:40 PM
I thought the episode was very good and even thought I knew she was gonna bite it, I was still glued to the screen unable to blink when they were showing the screen that she and the other ship popped up on. Man, the really dragged that out, hehehe!

About the only thing I didn't like was that stupid "touchdown!" move Kat made when she stepped out of the Raptor and everyone was clapping. Weird.

Good story, amazing effects, lots of fun!

spe130
12-13-2006, 09:32 PM
Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't really matter. The point of needing food and collecting algae was that it drove the actual plot THIS week. Next week's ep may take place long after the food crisis has been resolved.

Possible spoiler (from the "next episode" preview):








It appears the next episode occurs while they are collecting raw food material on the surface of the planet. As far as the "how" goes, it could prove to be a plot point whether or not the civilian ships have collection capabilities, or if Galactica will have to gather everything and then distribute it.

ClubTepes
12-13-2006, 09:56 PM
I always need every explained to me, but in this case, what caused the food issues???????

I didn't gather that the nebula caused the food issues.
If not, then it was a little 'convienient' that the food went bad at that moment.

I understand the charactor of 'Kat' was only supposed to be for 1 or 2 episodes.
But everyone liked the actress so much, they decided to keep her and the charactor around for a while. And in the end, that one or two episode charactor turned out to be quite a good recurring one at that.
So I also am curious as to why they killed her off. I personally doubt it was because she asked for too much money, especially sense they gave her such a good death. If she wanted too much money and they wanted to kill her off, I'd doubt she'd get such a goo send-off. I'm willing to bet that maybe she was moving on or something much as why the actor who played Billy moved on.

Back to the food issue, again we have something that happened in the original series. In 'Saga of a Star World', it was the contaminated food issue that drove them through a dangerous nebula to get to Carolon.

This show is really good at taking a idea from the original show and really beefing up tha danger and drama.
All the more reason I'd like to see the Ovions.

jheilman
12-13-2006, 11:32 PM
Something in their manufacturing process resulted in contaminated food. They then unknowingly mixed the tainted food into the stores with good food and ruined it all.

I think they killed Kat just to stir things up. Or, she may have a new series/film gearing up.

As to TOS, yeah I thought about the situation where they had to drive through the blinding nova with blacked out cockpits. Cool homage if it was an homage.

The Eye Of Jupiter is next where we find some artifact leading to earth and meet up with the Cylons again. What I do find "convenient" is how the cylons and humans manage to travel to the same point in space at the exact same time. First was the lion's head nebula and the base star of death, now the nebula planet.

El Gato
12-14-2006, 12:35 AM
I didn't gather that the nebula caused the food issues.
If not, then it was a little 'convienient' that the food went bad at that moment.

The Eye Of Jupiter is next where we find some artifact leading to earth and meet up with the Cylons again. What I do find "convenient" is how the cylons and humans manage to travel to the same point in space at the exact same time. First was the lion's head nebula and the base star of death, now the nebula planet.

They have a plan, remember?

Here's my theory: These two eps may signal a return to that. In the first two seasons there was a distinct feeling that the Cylons where directing events for their purposes. Then Galactica Boomer and Caprica Six stirred things up enough to lead to New Caprica, where there was a distinct feeling that the Cylons had lost control. Now that GBoomer and CSix's plans were discredited and the chase is on again, maybe we'll go back the Cylons manipulating events, most likely through the use of the missing 5 models.

spe130
12-14-2006, 07:50 AM
On the "ideas from the original series" note: I still think an interesting idea to bring in at a later date would be Count Iblis as the Cylon god.

terryr
12-14-2006, 11:14 AM
1. truthiness (noun)
1 : "truth that comes from the gut, not books" (Stephen Colbert, Comedy Central's "The Colbert Report," October 2005)
2 : "the quality of preferring concepts or facts one wishes to be true, rather than concepts or facts known to be true" (American Dialect Society, January 2006)

nuf said. It's like faith without religion. The world is flat. I know it is! I feel it in my gut!!

John P
12-14-2006, 02:03 PM
Now if only my gut was flat!

jheilman
12-14-2006, 09:08 PM
:p :p :p :p :p

Jim NCC1701A
12-19-2006, 06:39 AM
Now if only my gut was flat!
Thanks John. That's one mental image I didn't need to stay with me... :cool:

spe130
12-19-2006, 07:58 AM
Now if only my gut was flat!

You need the official James T. Kirk Memorial Girdle... :tongue:

Zombie_61
12-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Now if only my gut was flat!You need the official James T. Kirk Memorial Girdle... :tongue:Is that girdle the one you can inflate to match Shatner's ego?

Lou Dalmaso
12-19-2006, 04:29 PM
I think the reason Kat had to go, was so that you could put the characters back in their proper dramatic "slots"

Kat can't be the best, hotshot pilot withthe quick temper...that's Starbuck's job.

Starbuck can't be the "by the book" CAG who disapproves of her hot dog pilots... that's Apollo's job.

Apollo can't be the troubled Commander... That's Adama senior's job.

between all of the military promotions/demotions and the political presidential changes, it's a wonder the rest of the fleet hasn't called for the leaders to wear big name badged with whatever rank they are that week in big red letters :confused: