Region 1 At maximus Jan 27-28

ROAR Region 1 Carpet Oval Champs - The Ultimate Snowbirds Warm-Up

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Register Online

Location:
Maximus R/C Raceway
647, US Route 1
York, Maine 03909

207.351.1520
http://www.TeamMaximus.com

Direction:
http://www.teammaximus.com/contact.asp

Lodging:
Anchorage Inn
Route 1A, Long Beach Ave.
York Beach, ME 03910
207.363.5112

First floor 2 queen beds approximately $70 - http://www.anchorageinn.com/

Union Bluff Hotel
8 Beach Street
York Beach, ME 03910
207.363.1333
800.833.0721

2 queen beds approximately $69, 2 queen beds and w/ pull-out couch approximately $79 - http://www.unionbluff.com/

*There are no special rates available for Maximus races with these two hotels due to the time of year.

Airports:
Pease International (Portsmouth, NH 12 miles from Maximus) - http://www.peasedev.org/airportinfo/flightinfo.asp

Manchester Regional Airport (Manchester, NH 50 miles from Maximus) - http://www.flymanchester.com/

Logan International Airport (Boston, MA 60 miles from Maximus) - http://www.massport.com/logan

Weekend Race/Practice Schedule:
Saturday Jan 27th Controlled Practice 8:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.
Saturday Jan 27th Club Race 4:00 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.
Saturday Jan 27th Open Practice 8:00 p.m. - Sunday Jan 28th 10:00 a.m.
Sunday Jan 28th Drivers Meeting 10:00 a.m.
Sunday Jan 28th Racing Starts 11:00 a.m.

Classes 1/10 Scale:
Stock
19 Turn (Ultrabird Hand Out)
Mod

Classes 1/12 Scale:
Stock
19 Turn (Ultrabird Hand Out)
Mod

Race Fees:
$35 Per Class - *No ROAR Membership Required
$20 Ultrabird 19T Hand Out Motor

Tracks Info:
Carpet 36' x 84'
Runline 150-155
Stock (CO27) Roll-Out 190-205

Track Amenities:
Snacks and Drinks
Internet Access
Compressed Air
Tire Truer
Scale
Transponders
Power Strips
Extension Cords

Pit Space:
Max 3' Per Racer
Stand-Up Bench spaces (no stools available)
Sit Down Space (folding chairs available)

*By registering online you will be guaranteed a pit space. Pits space location is first come first serve. Please don't contact us about a pit space unless you have a valid concern.

ROAR Rules Apply:
The following are rules that need to be reviewed by all racers before attending this event.

ROAR Rule Book - http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/2006rulebook.pdf.

Approved Bodies - http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/sbody.php

Approved Motors - http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/smotor.php

Approved Batteries - http://www.roarracing.com/approvals/sbattery.php

ROAR Body Rule (6.1.15)
Unless otherwise stated in the relevant class rules or specifications, the rear section of a body may be cut out as long as the rear sides and quarter panels, including the taillights and side portion of the rear bumper remain intact. It is recommended that some portion of the cut line remain visible to help speed technical inspection. If the body has no lower body trim line, then the fold line is considered the cut line.

ROAR Event Eligibility (5.11.4)
Regional Championships may be entered by any driver from the host region or adjacent regions which share the same border. Drivers are allowed only one Regional Championship title per class per scale per calendar year. A title winning driver may only enter a different class or scale at subsequent Regional Championships for the remainder of the calendar year.

Region 1
Connecticut
Maine
Massachusetts
New Hampshire
New York
Rhode Island
Vermont
Eastern Canada

Region 2
Delaware
Maryland
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
Washington DC
Virginia
West Virginia

Region 5
Illinois
Indiana
Kentucky
Michigan
Ohio
Wisconsin

Canadian Region
British Columbia
Alberta
Manitoba
Saskatchewan
Ontario
Quebec
New Brunswick
Newfoundland
Nova Scotia
Prince Edward Island

Race Fees:
$35 Per Class - *No ROAR Membership Required
$20 Ultrabird 19T Hand Out Motor


Just wondering.... how can a ROAR event not require membership? Maybe I read this post incorrectly?

im sure Bojo meant you can buy a 1 day pass just for the event, You dont have to be a roar member (annual membership).

if your not a member the track is paying your 1 day with the cost of you sign up.. as told to me by the owner or check out the thread in the event forum

ONE day pass is free

bojo - single event entrys are $15.00 which is used as savings to that prospective member should they pay an additional $15.00 for the annual membership within a years time. I can't see how not enforcing some kind of membership can be done unless the track is paying for those not registered as members with a single event form which needs to be mailed to ROAR immediately after the event...

maybe you should call me?

Dawn

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bojo - single event entrys are $15.00 which is used as savings to that prospective member should they pay an additional $15.00 for the annual membership within a years time. I can't see how not enforcing some kind of membership can be done unless the track is paying for those not registered as members with a single event form which needs to be mailed to ROAR immediately after the event...

maybe you should call me?

Dawn

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This is confusing to us as well. :confused: First the way this is being handled makes our track look terrible for not also covering membership fees when we have ROAR events. :(

But on top of that, my husband being a ROAR member wanted to know if he would still have to pay full price....... as we assume that the cost of $35 - covers those who are not members......

Its just very hard for us to understand as you dont get a break if you have the membership; you are told you dont need it; then you are told Maximus will cover it....(Mind you we know the benefit tracks get to signing people up even for one day (etc) ....)its just very confusing and it also makes other tracks NOT just us...look worse by us not covering the fees as Maximus is offering too ... :confused:

Let me also say, Im not trying to upset Maximus or speak any less of the situation..its just making our decision to host ROAR events harder in the future. I realize Heath is making NIL on this event, but he knows as well as we do...there will be a long line of racers who say to us "well if Maximus covers it...you should"... and in the same breathe, thats his choice and kindness...I just wish it was clarified a bit more and thought out a bit more (such as thinking that other tracks would be forced to do the same if we want to gain the same type of attendance in the future for ROAR events)...

bojo - single event entrys are $15.00 which is used as savings to that prospective member should they pay an additional $15.00 for the annual membership within a years time. I can't see how not enforcing some kind of membership can be done unless the track is paying for those not registered as members with a single event form which needs to be mailed to ROAR immediately after the event...

maybe you should call me?

Dawn

480 385 8946

Dawn,

That is correct Maximus will pick up the cost for a day membership for any racer that is not currently a ROAR member.

We are doing this in an effort to get more people in the region to attend ROAR events.

Heath Jackson
Maximus R/C Raceway

Danielle your right it does make your track look bad. Heath knows how to bring in racers to his events, and one way is to not make people buy a seperate ROAR membership as they would not be attending any other ROAR race that year. He is putting on a Regional race for $35 entry fee, which is low anyway, and then decides to take $15 of his profit to try to bring in a few extra racers that don't want to pay for a ROAR day or year membership. You should think hard about doing this as well at your races. I think it was clarified and well thought out idea on Heaths part to make this the best race it could be. If you feel pressure to try and make your race track and events better you should. As a racer I commend Heath for what he is doing to promote his track and bring in as many racers as he can for this event.

I also think it shows that alot of people here in New England who run oval have no interest in joining roar.........I wonder why.........

Danielle your right it does make your track look bad. Heath knows how to bring in racers to his events, and one way is to not make people buy a seperate ROAR membership as they would not be attending any other ROAR race that year. He is putting on a Regional race for $35 entry fee, which is low anyway, and then decides to take $15 of his profit to try to bring in a few extra racers that don't want to pay for a ROAR day or year membership. You should think hard about doing this as well at your races. I think it was clarified and well thought out idea on Heaths part to make this the best race it could be. If you feel pressure to try and make your race track and events better you should. As a racer I commend Heath for what he is doing to promote his track and bring in as many racers as he can for this event.

Mike see you do see my point; this now puts our track (and any track for that matter) in the position to have to at LEAST consider doing this; even if they are (or we) are not in a financial position to do so.

There is also other factors that I dont want to broadcast here about the ROAR fees. But aside from that, the point is his "kind" step now puts other tracks in the position that if we want to host a ROAR event, we will be expected by most to do the same.

Im not saying Heath is wrong; and wanting a good turn out is something WE ALL hope for; and we all do what we can to assure that.... I guess why its frustrating because unless we broadcast that we are doing this (such as covering the ROAR fee) no one appreciates our efforts or thinks we are looking out for the racers best interest, when in fact we ARE!

We have done MANY things to ensure better turn outs; incurred alot of extra costs - including lost money on events but we dont broadcast that.......therefore no one knows or appreciates the efforts.

In addition, situations like this make tracks look "difficult" to racers...when in fact we are just trying to conform & abide by the rules & regulations set forth by organizations, such as ROAR. Prime example is the weight & wheel dots situation.....now you add in us not covering membership fees...ya know????

The other side to this (and NOT just Chad brought this up)....But, those who are members already...are left wondering was the $35 - really the race fee or did Heath say 20 for the race fee, 15 for ROAR, and those who are already members now feel they are paying for the non-members in some way ....do you follow me at all?

At the same point I know what Heath is thinking; if he puts down $35, people automatically think...oh Im a member already take $15 off; This whole thing was a nightmare for him to plan Im sure!! (I give him credit)....
I recall the last Regional Chad had; people FLIPPED about the extra fee...it DID effect his turnouts; but he did what he thought was right - and conformed ...... it didnt occur to him to approach it like this; and now Im wondering will this be the PERMANENT way ROAR events are held?

I guess what Im saying is lately the expense of this hobby is making attendance in general on the low side (for all tracks) and it is forcing all tracks to do things like this...which can of course.... turn out to harm the track - rather than help.

Just my thoughts...and again Im not faulting Heath...Im just processing this whole thing and gaing perspective I guess.

Dawn,

That is correct Maximus will pick up the cost for a day membership for any racer that is not currently a ROAR member.

We are doing this in an effort to get more people in the region to attend ROAR events.

Heath Jackson
Maximus R/C Raceway

Heath.... THAT IS THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING I HAVE EVER HEARD OF!! Kudo's to you and your efforts on behalf of ROAR and if there is anything I can do personally to help you, let me know.

Thank you and apologies for any misperceptions on this thread. It would appear the 'haters' are gonna come out and that was not my intent. I had no idea you did this and I wish more people were as giving as you.

Dawn

Heath.... THAT IS THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING I HAVE EVER HEARD OF!! Kudo's to you and your efforts on behalf of ROAR and if there is anything I can do personally to help you, let me know.

Thank you and apologies for any misperceptions on this thread. It would appear the 'haters' are gonna come out and that was not my intent. I had no idea you did this and I wish more people were as giving as you.

Dawn


Dawn,

I dont want you to think I was implying I disliked his idea...I was just unsure where it left our options...and I think it also points out what Rick said above...racers are reluctant to pay the fees....which puts all tracks in terrible positions (so we are forced to make the calls like Heath did).

Like I said above.... Heath being Kind is totally understandable, I dont fault him one bit for hoping to increase the attendance at his event...Im just left concerned if that will be forever expected from this point. Thats all.

My husband is considering attending the event... and we support Heath/Maximus.....I feel bad that you or anyone may have thought my comments were not on a positive side or in support of him....I was just pointing out that I didnt want it to make other tracks look bad for not thinking to do the same yet...ya know? I also wanted to say that if it is not financially possible to do the same I didnt want racers to hold it against the track...thats all.

(sorry if that all came it wrong).

I understand both of your sides of the story. But if we are truly devoted to keeping RC racing healthy we shouldn't argue symantics.
This reminds me about a quote from Ralph Nader in refference to his father's coffee shop.
Mr Nader (senior) is at the dentist office and he asks the dentist how he sets his fees. Dentist replys, "If the patient can afford to pay more, they pay the full price, and if are poorer they get a discount so that they will remain customers" Nader mused at the statement and then left.
Next day the dentist stops at Mr Naders coffee shop for donut and coffee as he usually does. When he goes to pay, Mr Nader says "that'll be $11.00. The dentist, astounded asks him why. Mr Nader calmy replies, "you can afford to pay more so you owe six dollars for the coffee and five dollars for the donut!"

Danielle, I do apologize if I inferred to anything you stated.. I did not mean that. Since I asked the question how a ROAR event was being held without pursueing membership, I have been inundated with emails and phone calls.... typical stuff... people with too much time on their hands and crave the drama.... :)

I applaud Heath for his efforts and I'm ashamed to say I was unaware of this until just today......

thank you for all the good people out there and please realize, ROAR only wants to do what is best for ALL racers and tracks..... the membership fee might be too much for those who rarely run ROAR events and the single event membership is there for that reason.

Without some kind of coverage, the track owner is at too much liability risk and in this litigious society... we must protect them.

Again, Danielle.. thank you and good luck!!
Dawn

but, I also want to say, on a personal note...


RC racing is an expensive hobby and financially its not for everyone. We all do what we can to help the newbie but first and foremost, we must educate those new to the hobby what financial obligations they must expect.

To pay $80.00 for the hop up parts and accessories so your car looks cool and then complain about insurance that protects not only the racer but the spectators and the track owner.. who's there to ensure you have a hobby.. well, just seems silly......

ROAR insurance is just that... protection against injury and law suits to the racer and land/track owner. For $30.00 a year, its not bad when you consider ROAR also provides a consistent set of rules since 1967, basic competition events and changes as the hobby develops and technology improves.

But, that's just my rant....

back to our regularily scheduled programming.. :)

Danielle, we/I do greatly appreciate the nice things K/N, AND Maximus do for us the racers. Things like great food at the track so we dont have to go out, and extended practice hours, and reasonable race fee's, really make us feel appreciated. From a racer standpoint, the close proximity of the 2 tracks is creating a situation where we racers are in a great position lately, I feel almost "spoiled" lately when racing at the 2 tracks. ( Ever thought you'd hear ME say that?") When there is choice for the consumer, the comsumer ends up in a good place, same for any buisiness, service etc.

I'd venture to say that if dropping/lowereing the fees and having 15 extra bodies in the building, the track would come out ahead in the way of shop sales, parts, exposure etc. in the big picture. I still think race fees etc. are insanely low compared to other hobbies grown men? pursue, but I guess the demand/market sets that price. Oval racing seems to be making a big comeback lately, noteably the attendance at K/N this summer. In the past I can rember having to drive home for lack of interest.
Lateley, and for no other reason, my pathetic performance on the flat track keeps me going back more often, sort of like a video game I cant beat, so I keep hitting the reset button and try to beat my best score. Also lately more so than years past, probably because of the internet, racers are banding together and heading toward 1 specific track each weekend for bragging rights. Unfortunately, usually attendance will suffer at a particular track.
Happy racers = more racers= more buisiness overall for the oval community and tracks in the N.E., both the tracks are doing a great job at reviving oval racing,and everyone benefits. See you soon. H.B.

Just curious, has ANYONE ever filed, or heard of anyone filing a claim due to injury to ROAR? If they have been collecting premiums since 1967 I'd say thier gamble has paid off big time. Been looking for a collision policy for my R/C car for a while with no takers, I wonder why?? :)

Just curious, has ANYONE ever filed, or heard of anyone filing a claim due to injury to ROAR? If they have been collecting premiums since 1967 I'd say thier gamble has paid off big time. Been looking for a collision policy for my R/C car for a while with no takers, I wonder why?? :)
HB,
When you find out where to contact a claims adjuster let me know.

SL


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I don't mean to be a trouble maker but I have always wondered about these sanctioning groups and what they really do besides charge fees. Does roar do anything measureable for the tracks? Does it benefit the racers in any way that is even remotely visible? I have belonged to roar a couple times over the last 15 years and only because I had to join to go to a particular track for a race. I have been a musician for 25 years and also ran a coffee house where we had bands and musicians come and play on a weekly basis. We used to refer to ASCAP and BMI as the music mafia. All they did was collect fees and never put it back in the hands of the musicians in the form of royalties. Unless I'm missing someting ROAR is a lot like that. I'm not trying to start a p_$$__g contest but maybe someone from ROAR can explain what the heck you guys really do. The RC racing sport is alive because racers support it in the form of race fees and equipment purchases. If anyone has a clear concise explanantion of how I, the racer who races every week is benefited by ROAR explain away please.

rick my buddy see you next week

and to answer your question is INSURANCE INSURANCE INSURANCE..

trust me if your car would leave the track and hit some woman who stoped by with her son and knocked her down and she sued you and the track you would love roar at that point in time.

now with that being said i dont feel that roar events have the luster that they did in the past and that is said it was a big deal years ago to be a roar nat champ im not sure you can say the same today

Hey bro,
Good to see, err hear from you! You guys are always welcome. Yeah I realized after the fact that I could easily have been misunderstood. I wouldn't want Dawn to send her pepes after me! Just joking. Anyhow, I guess it's take to round up my stuff for tomorrow morning. This is the longest I have ever been away from the track (3 weeks)
See you soon.

LOL

What kills me is you all talk about injury...knowing DARN well what I do for a living..and yet NOT one of you said...but if we are injured ANYWHERE (track or not) we will immediately call Danielle for legal help (LOL).....

That doesn't seem strange to me.

LOL

What kills me is you all talk about injury...knowing DARN well what I do for a living..and yet NOT one of you said...but if we are injured ANYWHERE (track or not) we will immediately call Danielle for legal help (LOL).....

We call Danielle for all sorts of reasons... right D! :thumbsup:

I don't mean to be a trouble maker but I have always wondered about these sanctioning groups and what they really do besides charge fees. Does roar do anything measureable for the tracks? Does it benefit the racers in any way that is even remotely visible? I have belonged to roar a couple times over the last 15 years and only because I had to join to go to a particular track for a race. I have been a musician for 25 years and also ran a coffee house where we had bands and musicians come and play on a weekly basis. We used to refer to ASCAP and BMI as the music mafia. All they did was collect fees and never put it back in the hands of the musicians in the form of royalties. Unless I'm missing someting ROAR is a lot like that. I'm not trying to start a p_$$__g contest but maybe someone from ROAR can explain what the heck you guys really do. The RC racing sport is alive because racers support it in the form of race fees and equipment purchases. If anyone has a clear concise explanantion of how I, the racer who races every week is benefited by ROAR explain away please.
What about the universal rules they provide? Doesn't that make you happy that you can take your car from one race track where it conformed to the rules and bring it to another track where it will conform to their rules as well? It would really stink if each track had it's own set of rules and you had to change your car to conform to each one... I bet a lot of people would never leave their home track if that were the case.

ROAR does not collect any fees from tracks. ROAR provides a consistent set of competition guidelines in constant revision as the hobby changes and technology grows. ROAR also provides over 2 million dollars in liability coverage to the track owner and member ensuring the hobby remains alive in this litigious society. Also, ROAR promotes and organizes national events and runs our own events with the RACE MANAGEMENT TEAM and offers payment to the hosts for the use of their facility.

If you are looking for something tangible in the means of ROAR, then consider this.... without ROAR or other racing organizations, there would be chaos in competition. ROAR is not for everybody and understands the limitations although there are clear cut reasons to have the insurance and the membership should you be a consistent racer with expectations of fairness and guidelines.

Well said Dawn. And I bet Maximus would be happy to have a roar race any time.

Hey bro,
. I wouldn't want Dawn to send her pepes after me! .


whew.. almost missed the 'pepes' from making their trip your direction....

LOL

whew.. almost missed the 'pepes' from making their trip your direction....

LOL
Oh course you know I was just goofing to lighten things up a bit. I have no dislike of ROAR or what it does. I was more just asking the obvious, and kinda playing devils advocate.

Oh course you know I was just goofing to lighten things up a bit. I have no dislike of ROAR or what it does. I was more just asking the obvious, and kinda playing devils advocate.

LOL... I know...

I know you and your posting personality as well.... I read EVERYTHING on the internet... just don't post as often as I used to. :)

LOL... I know...

I know you and your posting personality as well.... I read EVERYTHING on the internet... just don't post as often as I used to. :)

I know you weren't directing that comment at me, but it still scares me alittle.

You guys are funny.....

Dawn, Just wanted to follow up and let you know that the race went great with no issues to speak of.

Congrats!!! No issues is MUSIC to my ears.... :) I rarely get to hear that one..

113 entries :thumbsup:

i believe there was only 1 actual roar member to enter also lol. heath thanked him a lot.

Rusty NutZ

Maximus will pick up the cost for a day membership for any racer that is not currently a ROAR member.

We are doing this in an effort to get more people in the region to attend ROAR events.


I suggested this to a couple clubs and tracks recently. I even went so far as to suggest the TRACK pay for EACH of their 'local' racers membership 100% (But KEEP the membership cards in the track/clubs possession) If that member wanted to use his ROAR membership someplace other than that local track...they would have to PURCHASE their card from the track.

This would be a much more cost effective insurance program than the track actually purchasing thier own policy from some other insurance company.