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jonnycash
12-05-2006, 03:02 PM
:thumbsup: After more than a year of research and devolpment, and many hours of actual track testing... The KSKT is finally finished.
Top S/K driver Ken K along with the R/K Racing engineering team have devolped the ultimate S/K car. We started with the race proven KSK (rkr pro) chassis, and added rear suspension. It uses a standard 1/10 t-plate, adjustable center shock mount, and a unique shock system. This chassis is made from 2.5mm silver carbon fiber, as well as the upper and lower plates. Any associated style rear side plates can be used, along with the ae battery cups found on all other rkr s/k cars. Final drawings have been sent to the machine shop, and they are cutting the parts right now. We expect the car to be ready at the end of December.
Check out KSKT (http://www.rollskanardly.com/) for more info and updates. Contact me to pre-order, or if you have any questions.
Thanks, Jon Anderson

Dirtydrc
12-05-2006, 03:16 PM
Sounds awesome. I guess you guys did this to compete with the other T-plate SK? What do you see happening with all the rigid cars out there? What do you expect the "street price" of the new car to be?

omnis85
12-05-2006, 03:22 PM
Countless hours of phone conversations. I cant wait to actualy get it out there for all to drive. very stable,adjustable, and good looking car. more to come.

Danielle
12-05-2006, 03:22 PM
Awesome news! keep us posted!

jonnycash
12-05-2006, 08:07 PM
There will be three ways to get the car...
Complete car, conversion kit, and chassis
There will be other options to be announced, such as color of side pod plates etc...

RC5150
12-06-2006, 06:55 AM
Chassis looks cool. Nice job guys. Good luck with the new design.

Danielle
12-06-2006, 12:08 PM
Chassis looks cool. Nice job guys. Good luck with the new design.


Now you will have yet another car to test out...hmmmm... we sure are keeping Mr. Stewart busy this year...(but he's loving it).....lol

jonnycash
12-06-2006, 11:17 PM
Chassis looks cool. Nice job guys. Good luck with the new design.
Thanks Charlie. Can't wait to get it out on the high banks!

jonnycash
12-09-2006, 12:16 PM
The kskt will be available in complete kit form with irs graphite axles, aluminum hubs, crc pod plates (your choice red, blue or silver), new crc strut front end ( the most advanced front end on the market), darkside center shock mount, along with many other great products. And of course, Main chassis plate along with top and bottom plates will be the silver carbon fiber!

Danielle
12-12-2006, 05:05 PM
The kskt will be available in complete kit form with irs graphite axles, aluminum hubs, crc pod plates (your choice red, blue or silver), new crc strut front end ( the most advanced front end on the market), darkside center shock mount, along with many other great products. And of course, Main chassis plate along with top and bottom plates will be the silver carbon fiber!

Just curious...when are you making these bad boys available????

jonnycash
12-12-2006, 07:25 PM
They will be available soon. We are expecting to get them in right around Christmas. Would like to put a order in to garauntee some for the Hobby Shop?

jonnycash
12-14-2006, 09:10 PM
Tested some proto-type parts on the banks of K/N for the first time last night, and saw the same positive results as all the flat track testing we have done. The lap times coming out of the car were fantastic... The fastest times I have ever seen an S/K do at K/N. Looks like this car is as versitale as expected! :thumbsup:

RC5150
12-14-2006, 09:28 PM
What class were you running and what were your times? Good to hear the car works well.

omnis85
12-14-2006, 09:52 PM
charlie stock and got some 4.3's 4.4's up front ending with 4.6's same as I did with the 53 lap run. car ran so great I handed it off to a freind who is picky with setup and said " very comfortable to drive" as he stated while driving it. car was also tested against some rough hits, walls and other cars including full body cars--thanks to Mr daryl and have to say it stood up to the abuse except the wheel flying off due to the plastic nut I used.

RC5150
12-15-2006, 06:51 AM
Plastic nuts huh? Time to step up and be a man of steel....LOL!!!

omnis85
12-15-2006, 11:03 AM
funny.... see ya this weekend

omnis85
12-15-2006, 12:07 PM
here is a pic of what is going to be used in the kits for your center shock and shock mount. As jon said we tested this on the banks weds night and showed great results. acts just like a real shock, uses any micro side shock spring and damper tube, allows the racer to adapt to any track. gray area yes but its not a shock. shock mount are as stated from darkside, I have always like the simplicity but many adjusments from the darkside shock mount. this center assembly will allow you to adjust "rounds" with the collar, each collar has a set screw to allow you to put it anywhere you want. possibly adding damper lubes to the site as well.

jonnycash
12-15-2006, 09:56 PM
Nice pic Ken. Looks great! Is that what you will be running on your enemy from now on? :cool:

Mayhem
12-16-2006, 12:56 AM
Team beefy will be unveiling a new shock, er, damper tube this weekend also.
What a coincidence!

omnis85
12-16-2006, 01:10 AM
yea I guess that is... glad I posted when I did and would also appreciate you keeping your subject postings to the appropriate thread.thank you.

Dirtydrc
12-16-2006, 07:31 AM
What is the actual rule regarding shocks / springs? Omni, I think you would be OK with your set-up. Is the rule for simplicity, trying to make set-up easier for the average guy? Or is the rule for cost control?

RC5150
12-16-2006, 09:05 AM
I think cost control isn't really that much of an issue. It wouldn't cost that much to include a basic associated threaded shock in either the Beefy or RKR kits. Besides, if cost was really an issue, you wouldn't see so many sk racers with $30 a pair aluminum castor blocks on their rides.

omnis85
12-16-2006, 10:15 AM
Many reasons why I decided to go with this. I didnt want to follow another company and say we were doing exactly what they were doing, although we where told it would have been ok but I still felt we should do something different. Its always been my understanding, written or unwritten shocks are a NO in this class period. Whatever comes with the kit is to be used as far as the damping system, castor blocks thats an upgrade that most will either opt to buy or not cant control that, as a car maker/dist etc its up to them or us to abide by the written/unwritten rules,whats the point to include something only to be turned away come race day? I could only imagine the calls we would receive saying why would you include this if you knew its not allowed. Cost wise its much cheaper to include these than a reg shock, but as stated mainly because we are not allowed to use a micro shock. Setting this car apart from the other or should I say the others coming out. In the business to sell them and grow the class even more not follow and make a copy of something thats already out there thats proven to work realy well, we hope to produce the same if not better results, does our "shock" system have an advantage to the other sure but didnt a tplate car have an advantage when running against a solid car? absolutly. I know I have run both on a weekly bassis for along time,maybe not as long as others but certainly know alot about the class to justify this car and what has been done for the class in all.

Dirtydrc
12-16-2006, 08:53 PM
I think cost control isn't really that much of an issue. It wouldn't cost that much to include a basic associated threaded shock in either the Beefy or RKR kits. Besides, if cost was really an issue, you wouldn't see so many sk racers with $30 a pair aluminum castor blocks on their rides.
So, I guess the shock rule was for simplicity, and to help keep SK chassis technology separate from Pan Car technology. I guess lots of guys would say "Well, that SK's got 3 shocks on it, why don't you just run a pan car blah blah blah....". Several years ago the rule probably made more sense, but like Omni said a while ago, times have changed and there's no turning back.

James35
12-16-2006, 10:08 PM
I could not find in the original post or on your web site where you mentioned what S/K means, or K/N for that matter. Could you please let us know what you are talking about?

omnis85
12-17-2006, 10:05 AM
adding $45 extra(3shocks) to a kit that again was/is suppose to be affordable vs a pan car is not going to happen. the class took another direction, its out of hands but now is the time to start to develop something,rules,guidelines etc and I am sure you should see something shortly to help that.

http://staffordmotorspeedway.com/Pages/About%20The%20Track/SKModifiedPage.htm
this is a link that explains the real history of the real sk's, K/N is banked oval track indoors, located at this track as well and there addy is http://www.knrcspeedway.com/ and also gives a little info on s/k's. Jon can give you a more detailed history of the sk class, dates.who desgined the first car etc, I know some but rather he tell ya.

jonnycash
12-20-2006, 07:24 PM
Here is a pic.

Danielle
12-20-2006, 08:02 PM
I could not find in the original post or on your web site where you mentioned what S/K means, or K/N for that matter. Could you please let us know what you are talking about?

K&N - Check us out!!! www.knrcspeedway.com :thumbsup:

As far as this whole mess....... :freak: oh man.... :drunk: I dont want to get involved!!!!

jonnycash
12-21-2006, 12:54 AM
Our kits have come with only the highest quality parts, and will remain this way. We offer Calandra racing Concepts precision machined rear pod plates with your choice of colors. As I'm sure everyone is familiar with the high quality of CRC parts. The good thing about these rear plates, is that if you need a replacement, you can use any of the associated style plates... Your not stuck with just one companies parts selection, there is IRS, darkside, associated, and many others. On the quality parts note, we also offer IRS graphite axles, along with precision machined aluminum hubs. While we do not offer ceramic bearings, we do have a very high quality steel bearing kit included in all of our kits. We put wind tunnell bodies in our kits, which in my opinion is the best quality and best fitting body on the market. Other parts include crc dampening tubes, pivot balls (t-plate), associated antenna tube and hardware, and of course our stainless steel screws. When it comes to service, we are the best! I have devoted much of my time on and off the track to help racers. I have donated my personal car to racers who have never raced an S/K. I take pride in my products and stand by them.
I'm in no way implying that RSE doesn't, or wouldn't do the same thing.

rickster58
12-21-2006, 01:04 AM
Jon, I think that's thge first picture I have of the entire car. It looks pretty cool!

jonnycash
12-21-2006, 10:03 AM
Jon, I think that's thge first picture I have of the entire car. It looks pretty cool!
That is just one of our proto types, the finished product will have a cleaner look to it, but thank you.

Danielle
12-22-2006, 08:22 AM
Happy Holidays!!!!!!

Have a SAFE & wonderful Holiday everyone!!!!

jonnycash
12-22-2006, 09:10 PM
Happy Holidays!!!!!!

Have a SAFE & wonderful Holiday everyone!!!!
Have a great holiday danielle, and everyone else here on hobbytalk! :wave:

omnis85
12-23-2006, 08:59 PM
coming soooooooooooooooooooon

jonnycash
12-25-2006, 04:15 PM
coming soooooooooooooooooooon
Oh ya!!! :thumbsup:

jonnycash
12-26-2006, 01:53 AM
Sounds awesome. What do you expect the "street price" of the new car to be?
Looks like the street price is going to be in the $200 range for a complete kit. The kit includes:
AE 8400 front end or CRC pro strut front end
CRC rear pod side plates... your choice of red blue or silver
Darkside Motorsports silver carbon fiber upper and lower plates
Darkside center shock mount (silver carbon fiber)
AE battery cups (the same battery hold down as the original rkr car)
AE antenna w/ hardware... your choice of red blue or black mast
AE fiberglass t-bar with stainless tweak screws
CRC dampening tubes
RC4Less steel bearing set
IRS graphite rear axle
Aluminum hubs (double clamping left side)
RKR Stainless screws throughout
Wind Tunnel 2095 S/K body
RKR spec center dampener
Delrin Body posts, made specifically for our cars by KND concepts
Of Course our 2.5mm silver carbon fiber cnc cut main chassis plate
120 tooth spur gear, AE diff rings, RKR diff balls, AE diff thrust setup, IRS nut
Look for more details on our new website! I will let you know when it is updated. We have many kits on their way, and most are already sold... but don't worry. Another batch will be in shortly there after. Those who pre-ordered are garuanteed a car, all others will be on a first come first serve basis.

rickster58
12-26-2006, 11:13 PM
Now that is an impressive list of features. Sounds like it's going to provide some tough competition on the carpet!

omnis85
01-04-2007, 10:29 AM
KSKT KITS WILL BE ON SALE THIS FRI,SAT,SUN $195 w/body w/tires

Standard Features are

2.5mm Silver Carbon Fiber main chassis and rear end peices
CRC rear motor pods
CRC Damper tube
CRC's new front end and it works awesome but you may use the Standard ASE front ends
ASE Battery Box
KND body posts
Darkside Fully adjustable Center Shock Mount
Full set of bearings
Kimbrough Spur gear,diff rings,diff balls,Irs D ring type Axle
Full set of Hubs with clamping
Full set of CRC 1/10th tires
1 Windtunnel S/K Body
Our own Stainless Steel Screw kit for the entire Kit

Everything you need EXCEPT electronics and paint to go race. Look for the kits and some complete built cars at this weekends Winterblast or call jon and of course visit our website, Sale starting Friday Night through the Weekend.

OPTIONS
A Rear Steer Plate (for short tracks)
Color specific motor pod plates
1 damper tube for our own spec center shock

Danielle
01-04-2007, 10:31 AM
KSKT KITS WILL BE ON SALE THIS FRI,SAT,SUN $195 w/body w/tires

Standard Features are

2.5mm Silver Carbon Fiber main chassis and rear end peices
CRC rear motor pods
CRC Damper tubes(2) 1 damper tube is our own spec center shock
CRC's new front end and it works awesome but you may use the Standard ASE front ends
ASE Battery Box
KND body posts
Darkside Fully adjustable Center Shock Mount
Full set of bearings
Kimbrough Spur gear,diff rings,diff balls,Irs D ring type Axle
Full set of Hubs with clamping
Full set of CRC 1/10th tires
1 Windtunnel S/K Body
Our own Stainless Steel Screw kit for the entire Kit

Everything you need EXCEPT electronics and paint to go race. Look for the kits and some complete built cars at this weekends Winterblast or call jon and of course visit our website, Sale starting Friday Night through the Weekend.

OPTIONS
A Rear Steer Plate (for short tracks)
Color specific motor pod plates

Sweet - and what FINE shops will have these???? ;)

omnis85
01-04-2007, 10:33 AM
the pre orders are going out the door tomorrow, and will bring some up with our race prizes fri night

Danielle
01-04-2007, 10:57 AM
the pre orders are going out the door tomorrow, and will bring some up with our race prizes fri night


Im making a nice top & center spot for the kit(s) in the case! Can't wait to see the whole thing! Thats HOT!

See ya soon!

jonnycash
01-04-2007, 01:51 PM
KSKT KITS WILL BE ON SALE THIS FRI,SAT,SUN $195 w/body w/tires
:thumbsup: Thats right... We are insane to offer all this for such a low price. You may buy them at K/N or from the website (http://rollskanardly.com/page4.html) orders placed before monday jan.8th will be given away at this outragously low price, shipping will take place on Monday, or take home from the track. Call it the Winterblast insanity sale! :tongue: Check out the other ways to get the ultimate s/k on our website!
Thanks, and good luck to all who are attending the winter blast!
-Jon Anderson

jonnycash
01-04-2007, 06:12 PM
We also have other specials for this weekend... :thumbsup:
Chassis Kit: $70
2.5mm silver carbon fiber chassis plate
2.5mm silver carbon fiber upper/lower pod plates
Darkside adjustable center shock mount
Main chassis plate: $40
Conversion Kit: $90
Convert your solid s/k into the KSKT
chassis, up/low plates, center shock mount
t-plate w/pivots, center dampener, standoff, dampening tube

omnis85
01-05-2007, 03:38 PM
here are some pics of the car, chassis main plate, and my personal assembled car.

SHAKY DAVE
01-05-2007, 04:06 PM
Looks great,Ken.Maybee i do need one of these.Hyperdrive pod?What do you do for ft downforce?Lead weights?Are you allowed to run a wing?Spoiler?
Dave Werner

darrel
01-05-2007, 05:12 PM
Hi Ken;
The body looks good mounted, and just for anybody that dosent see it in person thats orange and not pink.

Just lookin out for ya good luck this weekend.

bojo
01-06-2007, 08:02 PM
Ken the car looks great

rickster58
01-07-2007, 12:08 AM
Ken nice job on the car. You always asked me to run an SK with you. Well I guess now I will be running one. I look forward to this season and running the NEOT tour with mine. Fun times ahead!

omnis85
01-08-2007, 11:42 AM
thanks rick looking forward to the new season after the birds, this weekend was well lets just say eventfull. With 1 hr sleep over the weekend did not help me one bit. Man did that track change. Fri night jon and I had both cars running 53's in practice. Lots of positive response and intrest on our new cars. All rkr drivers did great considering the outcome. Jon in the A with the new tplate car and had a decent finish with all the crashes, 2 kskt cars in the B with a 2nd place finish by our new team driver Mike S. :thumbsup:

omnis85
01-08-2007, 11:49 AM
Looks great,Ken.Maybee i do need one of these.Hyperdrive pod?What do you do for ft downforce?Lead weights?Are you allowed to run a wing?Spoiler?
Dave Werner
hey dave, you can add any pod and tplate to it that you want but the top and bottom plates are not drilled for hyperdrive, they are drilled for asscoiated/crc,darkside motor pods. You can add a max of 1 1/2inch spoiler to the back per our rules others I dont know. the best body out there right now is the windtunnel sk mod body that already has a small lip for a spoiler on there. certain things you can do to get downforce if needed. because its open wheel and not all covered they tend to be a tad twitchy. weight in the sk class is 2.30lbs and we realy didnt need to add that much lead to the cars, mine had a total of maybe a 1/2oz if that. let us know dave and we will take car of ya,
Ken