2007 ORL Season - What Class Will You Run In
You may choose more than one class if you are planning to run more than one class.

Super Cup 19 turn that's what I am running.

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa C'mon

pro cup stock and 4 CELL SPEC :D

hmmmmmmmmmm :confused: definately super cup 19 turn :thumbsup: but not sure between pro stock or 4300 brushless as a second class. probably go for stock but not sure yet. i will let yall know later.

Bobby Scherff
R I P motorsports
Oval Racing concepts
Team Tekin

I am cosidering 4300 brushless . Who else is going to run this class? May do the double with 19t super cup as well.

i'm definaly thinking about pro cup as usual but also thinking about 4300

4300 & spec :wave:

Gordie what happened to 4300 today. You get lost in Brass Pro Shop

Joe DiGirolamo

well looks like the spec class is for pro drivers
to bad the up and coming drivers need to run
pro stock or get beat

i think you're over reacting. if people wanna run spec nastruck and see what they can do, maybe they should quit whining and go watch them race somewhere. it's an awesome class for anyone. thats why they have a-mains, b-mains, c-mains etc...

will there be a beginners class in the ORL?

Joe, Sorry I missed it. I still am fighting another dam cold, I think this is No. 3 on the year. Barring a fourth I'll be in for the next one. Cory, I'm with ya on the spec class. If the battery stuff keeps up spec is gonna be the only thing that keeps me in this game. George, I do'nt think the ORL is a real good place for beginners to start, I feel weekly racing facilities should be the ones attracting new people or those who used to race years ago to try or try again to get involved in our hobby. Several of the people I've seen racing the spec class at The Strand (my favorite track know) are faces I remember from some time ago, I'm sure a few of these guys would not like having to put up the cash for top of the line speedos and batterries when spec gets them racing again for a fraction of the cost. Just my .02 worth, See ya round Gordie B. :wave:

Hey Gordie I was there to abuse Joe.I won't be at the first ORL race(can't do Sat.races)Might be at the Strand for that one.Are you still running the X-Factor?If so could you PM your set up to me,I am struggling with the 4300.

Thanks Jerry

im probly gonna run brushless for the orl this year. anyone try this out yet? fast?

im probly gonna run brushless for the orl this year. anyone try this out yet? fast?
It is a blast.As fast or faster than 19t with less but no motor hassles.If your car is set up you have plenty of free time to watch guys thrash on motors.

Regardless if guys are "thrashing" on motors or watching more races it still will come down to chassis management. If you have a T.I.C. (Hi Alan) Totally Inefficent Chassis Brushless will have the same results as brushed racing. The same racers who know how to set their cars up for each track will end up in the front. Good brushed motors or not Brushless will not make a difference if lacking in handling.

gordie, i didn't know you were throwing the idea around about running spec untill now. thats awesome! you are right, it brought back some guys who ran at prop and wheels... and they love it.

we have some entry level people running running this class at the strand, but the track director stacks the heats to seperate skill levels. works out perfectly in my opinion.

just orderd my gtb and 4300 today . Here we go boys, boogity boogity boogity!!!

I see that the ORL rules this year for the 4300 class mandate that the motor remain "stock". With Novak now offering the sintered rotor and larger diameter endbell in a single aftermarket package, I would strongly encourge allowing the same to be used in the ORL 4300 class. These changes allow the motor to run substantially cooler (thereby virtually eliminating thermal shutdown in 4-cell, 5 minute racing) and more efficient. Although the initial investment is a little more, once installed (a 2 minute job), you can probably put the motor in the car and run the entire ORL series without ever having to take it out of the car.

I second the motion...

I also agree with that. I believe the Snowbirds are allowing the sintered rotor. A lot of those guys will want to run that through the season as well.

Hmmmm.....???? :rolleyes:

But there is that idea of more $$. :confused:

Bill - How are you, long time no see. Are you ready for the 2007 season? Can't wait till we get started. Thanks for the best series in the country, I know sometimes its taken for granted, but you really do an awesome job.

Doug p

yo joe what car you gonna run?

I would not have a problem changing to the sintered rotor. Bring on the 4300 should be fun.

Joe DiGirolamo

Hmmmm.....???? :rolleyes:

But there is that idea of more $$. :confused:

Bill I think we all agree that having people spend extra money to race An ORL race is something your trying very hard to avoid. I think that's a good thing, But the guys who will be racing the brushless classes at ORL events will be running them at non ORL races, were those tracks will be allowing the upgrade rotor and endbell. On another note, the upgrade rotor helps the over heating issues. Some of your races will be held during the summer and will cause allot of people trouble dealing with thermal shut downs.

It also makes teching easier. If you allow the aftermarket parts then you don't need to tech for them.

If we are about to step to an area that the ORL has never been in before, it would only make since that this brushless class be the same as BRL. This brushless racing might be the shot in the arm that ORL needs to attrack more racers. If adding these up grades will extend the life of these "EXPENSIVE" motors, why not allow these upgrades? In order to start this class we will have already spent a rather large amout of money, "in 13.5 & the 4300 classes", so why not try to protect the investment? If you follow the brushless post, you will read all of these upgrades make these motors last a bit longer. I'm getting into the 13.5 class also and I would like to protect my investment, even in the 13.5 class these changes add a cooling factor. The addition of bearings, Sintered rotor & different end bell is a small price to add to the exspence that we have already invested.

So the motion to go with the sintered rotor and endbell as an option in the 4300 class has been made and seconded serveral times (thanx to all). So how does the change now get put into the ORL rules books before the first race in a couple of weeks ? Believe me people, to not have to worry about overheating the motor or a thermal shutdown is well worth the nominal investment, which is a one-time thing.

Hmmmm.....???? :rolleyes:

But there is that idea of more $$. :confused:

Hi bill, If you page through the BRL thread, they found the stock rotor was not durable and was tearing up the inside of the motor when it let loose. Apparently the sintered rotor solved this problem.

Yes, I'm listening to ya's. Pretty much all seem to be in favor. Any nay's out there? If any rules are going to be changed for this I'd like to get it done within the next day or two.

Yes, this is new territory for the ORL and most of our racers. ALOT has been learned in just the past couple of months. I don't mind a change now, so as long as we get it right. I know the season is just a couple of weeks away but better now than after the season starts.

Thanks Doug, I highly appreciate the kind words. The support you and many others have given over the years is what has made this a great series. No, I'm personally not ready, I wanted to run the 13.5 class but looks like that'll have to wait a little longer. Just don't have the extra change right now for that. I'll just be running stock for now with what I have.

Looking forward to that first race though!!! Man, I need a racing fix bad!!!

Bill - You could join us in Fla and get all the racing fix you need.

It is a yay from me. I just but a new 4300 and GTB and if the sintered rotor and big bearing will keep the combo running cooler and with more durability I am for it!

Yes, I'm listening to ya's. Pretty much all seem to be in favor. Any nay's out there? If any rules are going to be changed for this I'd like to get it done within the next day or two.

Yes, this is new territory for the ORL and most of our racers. ALOT has been learned in just the past couple of months. I don't mind a change now, so as long as we get it right. I know the season is just a couple of weeks away but better now than after the season starts.

Thanks Doug, I highly appreciate the kind words. The support you and many others have given over the years is what has made this a great series. No, I'm personally not ready, I wanted to run the 13.5 class but looks like that'll have to wait a little longer. Just don't have the extra change right now for that. I'll just be running stock for now with what I have.

Looking forward to that first race though!!! Man, I need a racing fix bad!!!

Bill, the option to use the sintered rotor and large bearing endbell for the 4300 motor is the right answer for everyone. With all due respect, I would be very surprised to hear otherwise from anybody who has run the 4300 motor in oval racing. For those new to brushless oval racing, about all I can say is "you are going to love it".

Good Luck to all the ORL guy's heading to Florida. Me and Andrew should be there Sunday.

Joe DiGirolamo

Bill - You could join us in Fla and get all the racing fix you need.
Boy, I'd love to do that. One of these years I will, soon. I did get to stop down there a couple years ago during it and wow, it was pretty wild.

Good luck to ya's all. Make the ORL proud. You usually do. :thumbsup:

Bill - We have floor space all you need is 1 airline ticket and your in.

Ok, after reading countless threads on different forumns and web sites and talking to a few people in the know, we will make a few revisions to the Brushless rules. I'm not a big fan of changing the rules this close to the start of the season but I feel this is for the good of the ORL Brushless classes. Better now than wanting to do it after the season actually starts.

The Pro Brushless (4300) Class: We are just going to switch to the BRL 4300 motor rules. This is pretty much becoming the standard for this class everywhere and I believe it is important to be consistant.

12.53 Legal updates for this motor include
NOV5905 4300/5800 Motor Bearing & End Bell Replacement
NOV5906 4300/5800 Motor Replacement Rotor
NOV5908 Velociti Nickel-Plated Sintered Rotor
NOV5922 SS Brushless Motor Upgrade Kit
NOV5923 Sintered Upgrade Kit
NOV5910 HV Motor Bearing & Endbell Replacemant
NOV5919 Velociti Ribbed Bearing & Endbell Replacement
NOV5920 Velociti 5.5/6.5 Bearing & Endbell

The Sportsman Brushless (13.5) Class: We already follow the BRL rules on this class but we will vary on one item, we will allow the 5908 sintered rotor.

11.53 Legal updates for this motor include
NOV5908 Velociti Nickel-Plated Sintered Rotor may be used as a replacement for the stock rotor.

We all know the whole brushless thing is new territory for the ORL and we all have been learning as we go along. So, hopefully we have it right now and are good to go.

Thanks,
Bill :thumbsup:

Well Done, Bill. !!!