Hi,Remember when the Reliant first encountered the Enterprise,the Reliant opened fire at point blank range.Hitting the Enterprise in Engineering and crippling the Ship.Her'es a thought,if they had gotten the shields up at that close range,would the shields have held and would the Enterprise have still suffered damage,I don't beleve it would have been as incapaciated as it was,Guy Schlicter.

I'm thinkin' Enterprise would have faired much better in the battle and likely beaten the inexperienced Khan in short order. It likely would have come at the cost of destroying Reliant.

However, it wouldn't have made for as interesting a movie. ;)

And if Marion had stopped at a different motel, she'd have lived to return the money and we'd have never met Norman Bates, and the movie would have been a huge bore except for seeing Janet Leigh in her underwear.

Her'es a thought,if they had gotten the shields up at that close range,would the shields have held and would the Enterprise have still suffered damage, No. Next question?

There's no such thing as energy shields.
There's no such thing as starships.
Khan is played by an actor.
Kirk is played by a HACK.
The little spaceship models are in a studio.
Some guy named Harve Bennet said the Enterprise gets the crap blasted out of it, he's credited with the screenplay, and so Nick Meyer, the director, does his job and tells ILM to go set off some pyrotechnics and destroy a model that some poor schumcks worked very hard on.

This dose of reality brought to you by the same people that invented beer milkshakes.

Darn you and your Reality Check! Darn you to Heck!

Someone please start yet another Star Trek thread! There are not nearly enough on this board already!

Maybe, if they threw turkey at the Enterprise, the movie would be better. Throw the turkey somewhere. Bleechhhh! :drunk:

Someone please start yet another Star Trek thread! There are not nearly enough on this board already!
Well, then start another thread on a subject you like, dude. Nobody's forcing you to read anything about a subject you don't like. ;)

Maybe, if they threw turkey at the Enterprise, the movie would be better. Throw the turkey somewhere. Bleechhhh! :drunk:Okay...if Adam and Jamie fired a frozen turkey out of a pneumatic turkey cannon built out of spare parts they found in a junkyard, and the Enterprise didn't have her windshields up...oh, never mind; too complicated. Besides, I'd just be drooling over Kari Byron the whole time anyway. :p

After reading my post, I've found it to be glib and unhelpful. Thusly self-chastised, I offer this alternative:

In the Star Trek Universe, there are no physical or logical laws that govern the characteristics of time, space, phasers, shields, starship classes or registry numbers. Those are all under the power of the omnipotent yet capricious gods known as The Writers. Nothing exists in that universe that has not been created by the gods known as The Writers. We must have faith in those gods lest they smite us down and render unto us more bad Voyager episodes.

Although the motives of the gods known as The Writers may seem opaque to us mortals, we must also realize that The Writers serve two gods above themselves: The Story and The Buck. Once we realize this, we can more effectively speculate on the strength of shields fired upon at point-blank range:

Which outcome would make a better story?
Which outcome would make a better buck?

This endeth the lesson. ;)

If Khan had kept firing he could have won right there. But NO he has to give the hero a chance to come back. KKKHHHHAAAAANNNNN!!!!!!

And couldn't one of his genetic superpeople be short with a funny Brazilian accent? "Eh, bothhh, de staship! de staship!"

Actually, Hervé Villechaize was of Filipino heritage but born and raised in Paris.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Villechaize

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Then again, Khan could have had a genetically engineered super-intelligent talking chimp sidekick named Caesar . . .

Actually, Hervé Villechaize was of Filipino heritage but born and raised in Paris.
Wow! This thread is entertaining AND informative! :thumbsup:

Ah, who the heck could tell that through is stunning and evocative performance?

Maybe if the Enterprise were not made of fiberglass, wood, and plastic it would have held out better. Okay, sure, a Corvette can be fiberglass, but it's typically not taking heavy phaser fire.

Or at least, you'd hope a 'Vette wouldn't be takin' heavy phaser fire. :eek:

And if Marion had stopped at a different motel, she'd have lived to return the money and we'd have never met Norman Bates, and the movie would have been a huge bore except for seeing Janet Leigh in her underwear.

I have no problem with devoting an entire film to vintage Janet Leigh in her underwear. Or the current Jamie Lee for that matter. ;)

Actually, Hervé Villechaize was of Filipino heritage but born and raised in Paris.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Villechaize

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Then again, Khan could have had a genetically engineered super-intelligent talking chimp sidekick named Caesar . . .True, but isn't that a photo of Caesar's father Cornelius? :confused:

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Oops, my bad! This is Caesar . . .





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. . . or this . . .



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. . . or this.

Ah, the salad days of film!

If it's cold enough outside...you can total a Corvette with a BB gun...

et tu, Y3a?

And it's very cold in SPACE!

If it's cold enough outside...you can total a Corvette with a BB gun...

And it's very cold in SPACE!

So you should never drive a corvette in space???
For fear of running into that Christmas Story kid who only wanted a bb gun?

Dude! Don't encourage the kid! He'll shoot his eye out!

Poor John, always the stink in the underwear of life.

Wha...? :confused:

To add insult to injury. A co-worker and I were discussing the other day how lousy the Starfleet design engineers in TNG must have been, because it seemed like every-single-time the E-D shields took any kind of weapons fire, the shield strength dropped to the 20%-40% range. You think defenive shields would be designed to take a wee bit more punishment than one hit before collapsing.......

It's not the StarFleet Corps of Engineers that messed up on that. Blame those darned Writing Gawds of Fate! :D

What? :)

What about TOS? In "Balance of Terror" they burn out their phaser circuits after only firing them a few times, and not even taking one hit from the Romulans. I guess that's why they never used the "proximity phasers" again.

Well, if you'd rather not go w/the Writing Gawds of Fate, fickle as they are, can we blame the phaser problem on shodding contractor work...? :)

Corvettes, in the cold of space? Hmmmmmmm, now where did I see one of those?

Oh, THAT's RIGHT! Opening scenes from "Heavy Metal". The dude dropped out of the space shuttle, and did a planetary re-entry in a Corvette. KNEW I saw that Somewhere. Good thing he didn't hit anything in the cold of space. Would have totaled the "vette".

"Boldly GO!"

Scorp :thumbsup: :wave:

There's no such thing as energy shields.
There's no such thing as starships.
Khan is played by an actor.
Kirk is played by a HACK.
The little spaceship models are in a studio.
Some guy named Harve Bennet said the Enterprise gets the crap blasted out of it, he's credited with the screenplay, and so Nick Meyer, the director, does his job and tells ILM to go set off some pyrotechnics and destroy a model that some poor schumcks worked very hard on.

This dose of reality brought to you by the same people that invented beer milkshakes.

My...that was a bit rude. This IS a movies for modelers section, and I doubt any of the movies are realistic, but it isnt really necessary to insult our interests. :(

I doubt any of the movies are realistic

"Doubt"? :confused:

My...that was a bit rude.
Naah...just a bit cynical. :thumbsup: