I never realized that David Gerrold had a guest appearance in the episode he wrote, "More Tribbles, More Troubles:"

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/David_Gerroldsmaller.jpg

Boy! That "red shirt" has doom written all over 'em. :p

Here's another one:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/Klingonsmaller.jpg

For the rest of the episode, the Klingon is visible on the main viewscreen except for one brief clip when he's actually on the bridge of the Enterprise when the animator put him in the wrong layer.

Its a hologram? :freak: :tongue:

And what were they thinking when they drew this scene? :rolleyes:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/GoodFriendssmaller.jpg

Probably this! (http://www.startrekanimated.com/tas_sounds/tas_sound_spock_darling.wav ) :jest:

I'm sure all you re-touchers are going to have a blast with the animated stuff.

The animation doesn't provide much of a challenge though.

At least Warped9 is doing it with the live stuff.

Good stuff all around.

Is that your phaser or are you just happy to see me?

So where's the 6 finger Spock?

I'm sure all you re-touchers are going to have a blast with the animated stuff.


The pics I posted here are not retouched (if that's what you were thinking). :wave:

The pics I posted here are not retouched (if that's what you were thinking). :wave:

Actually, I wasn't sure.
But my statment also really was referring to future retouches, as they would/should be a little easier to do being animation rather than real life.

Here's one. Don't know if Kirk changed his shirt, or red shirt/stunt double put in scene. It just was a flash, then back to normal.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/stunt.jpg

Here's one. Don't know if Kirk changed his shirt, or red shirt/stunt double put in scene. It just was a flash, then back to normal.

:lol: I caught that one, too! I think that was a color-blind moment! :p

It happened again! This from Albatross.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/gold.jpg

I was watching the first disk and in one of the first episodes, (I think it was beyond the farthest star) the navigator switches from scene to scene. one second its Arex the next its a generic crewman.

there are an amazing number of technical fluffs. Not counting the pink tribbles.

And I don't care what you say... the ship looks ..TOO CARTOON-Y! :)

It happened again! This from Albatross.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/gold.jpg

:lol: Good catch! I haven't made it to that episode yet.

McCoy's looks like he's been working out in that shot--maybe it's just the uniform change.

And I don't care what you say... the ship looks ..TOO CARTOON-Y! :)

But it does look better than some attempts at CGI that I've seen. ;)

I've got a desktop background of the TAS 1701 now--perhaps it's just the nostalgia but I like the way it looks.

Aye, an' Cap'n Scott is mannin' the transporter!

^^Ye're right, laddie! :lol:

These shots are odd, because McCoy pops up then he is gone.Both scenes are from The Pirates of Orion.
1st, Spock collapes on the bridge floor, Kirk calls sick bay, "Medical emergency!", then McCoy appears, and disappears.

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/McCoy1.jpg

2nd, Kirk gets call from sickbay,for Spock to go to get his shot, from McCoy.
Yet McCoy pops up next to Kirk,then diappears.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/McCoy2.jpg

Also notice the shot of Kirk, and McCoy are the same, except Spock's head.Both scenes, take place at different times.

^^^ Maybe he's a holodeck doc! :D

If they continued to cut TOS's budget in later seasons, they would have had to re-use shots like that more often in live action to save $$$!

You could have canned and re-used close-ups of...
"Fascinating"
"He's dead, Jim"
"Ya canna change the laws of physics"
"No response"
"Warp 5"
...and a few others, and saved countless hours of filming time.

If you really notice, they will sometimes reverse the cell, and the person's shirt patch will be on wrong side. Bothers me sometimes.

Here is a weird one. Look at the Main View Screen.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/blinkies.jpg

This is not an error, but a cool shot. I took many screen grabbes, and pasted them into one.This is the display in the Turbolift. In the center of the saucer are some yellow squares, they show the Turbo lift moving down. the red square right of center is the end of the trip to Sickbay.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/turbo.jpg

If they continued to cut TOS's budget in later seasons, they would have had to re-use shots like that more often in live action to save $$$!

You could have canned and re-used close-ups of...
"Fascinating"
"He's dead, Jim"
"Ya canna change the laws of physics"
"No response"
"Warp 5"
...and a few others, and saved countless hours of filming time.

Just like they did the music,FX, and scenes of slimmer Shatner, just go with stock.

^The funky viewscreen shot above apparntly has the winky-blinkies from the peripheral console panels accidentally overlayed.

...and Sulu has lost his right leg (...or has no right leg?) ....unless he's stepping on the gas peddle?

OAB

Maybe, that is where Arex got his third leg from.

Maybe, that is where Arex got his third leg from.

Oh, no! No Sulu jokes about third legs! :eek:

Let's just assume that he crosses his legs like a woman.

This is not an error, but a cool shot. I took many screen grabbes, and pasted them into one.This is the display in the Turbolift. In the center of the saucer are some yellow squares, they show the Turbo lift moving down. the red square right of center is the end of the trip to Sickbay.


I captured that, too--neat shot!

If you really notice, they will sometimes reverse the cell, and the person's shirt patch will be on wrong side. Bothers me sometimes.

I would complain except for the fact that they did that on the original series as well. :p

Weird one, Uhura take a ride.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/back_up.jpg

Weird one, Uhura take a ride.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/back_up.jpgMaybe M.C. Escher was an animator on the staff ...

Qapla'

SSB

Wow, such great quality control! ;)

Weird one, Uhura take a ride.
http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/back_up.jpg

Looks like McCoy has a monkey on his back. :p

You'd think they would have fixed those quirks when cleaning up the episodes for DVD release...

Let 'em be. Not everything needs to be "fixed".

Takes away the charm. :)

^^Well said!

I see the problem. You're confusing Micro-hura with the real Uhura.

Also note McCoy's uniform emblem in that shot. It's HUGE!

I see the problem. You're confusing Micro-hura with the real Uhura.

:lol:

and the elevator moved.

Also note McCoy's uniform emblem in that shot. It's HUGE!

That is not a blooper. Filmation made them bigger, so the animators had an easier job, since they were on all uniforms.

Yeah, I get that, but check out McCoy's vs. Sulu's. It's still HUGE.

^^Let's not go there, O.K. ? :wave:

Wow, such great quality control! ;)

weekly tv animation is kind of like an elephant walking on its hind legs: its not how well he does it, its that he does it at all. (these of course were the days before it was outsourced to the orient, and they actually had to pay the animators a living wage.)

It would be cool if they did another animated TOS Trek today. Get the surviving actors to lend their voices again, and get REAL sci-Fi writers to pen the scripts again(as in the TOS AND TAS).


Regards, Mark

I'd rather see the "New Frontier" novels adapted as a new hour-long animated Trek dramedy.

And what were they thinking when they drew this scene? :rolleyes:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/GoodFriendssmaller.jpg
:freak: Eeww! This is just so wrong. I caught it also when watching "mudd's Passion" after all these years, but I'd somehow forgotten about this.

During these past couple of weeks I picked up the 40th anniversary collections of the Star Trek Log books containing Alan Dean Foster's adaptations of the TAS episodes as well as the recent TAS dvd box set. Interesting comparisons.

The TAS episodes are not above criticism and in all honesty do feel dated (in execution) even knowing how forward thinking they were when new. Compared to what we've become used to the episodes look somewhat static in terms of motion. And I can't escape that these episodes feel somewhat rushed and abbreviated. One aspect that cannot be taken away from the show was the ambition in ideas and visuals. Indeed I'd argue that later live-action Treks with their more sophisticated productions never really matched TAS' ambitions and vision. Yet even though one can critique TAS the episodes and stories still have an inescapable charm and appeal. With the decent likenesses of the characters and sets and the familiar voice acting these stories still feel like genuine Star Trek.

In comparison the ADF adaptations manage to feel more authentic and more like live-action TOS. Overall ADF did an admirable job of fleshing out the stories and sometimes fixing little goofs and/or logic flaws. In a way I feel ADF's work are the real stories and the episodes are a visual abbreviated storyboard.

One aspect that both the episodes and the print adaptations share is that periodically the characters speak and act somewhat inconsistently with what was previously established, but it usually isn't terribly obtrusive.

Overall, though, I'm very glad I've collected these both.

The TAS episodes are not above criticism and in all honesty do feel dated (in execution) even knowing how forward thinking they were when new. Compared to what we've become used to the episodes look somewhat static in terms of motion. And I can't escape that these episodes feel somewhat rushed and abbreviated. One aspect that cannot be taken away from the show was the ambition in ideas and visuals. Indeed I'd argue that later live-action Treks with their more sophisticated productions never really matched TAS' ambitions and vision. Yet even though one can critique TAS the episodes and stories still have an inescapable charm and appeal. With the decent likenesses of the characters and sets and the familiar voice acting these stories still feel like genuine Star Trek.

In comparison the ADF adaptations manage to feel more authentic and more like live-action TOS. Overall ADF did an admirable job of fleshing out the stories and sometimes fixing little goofs and/or logic flaws. In a way I feel ADF's work are the real stories and the episodes are a visual abbreviated storyboard.

One aspect that both the episodes and the print adaptations share is that periodically the characters speak and act somewhat inconsistently with what was previously established, but it usually isn't terribly obtrusive.

Excellent analysis! :thumbsup: I concur completely. The ADF adaptions were really great and yielded more adventure than the TAS episodes themselves. I would hope ADF's fleshing out of the episodes could be used to flesh out an eventual CGI version of the series.

You should read the first chapter of Foster's Log Seven.
You will see just how "original" Braga and Moore were when concocting the open to Generations.

A lot of TNG stories really do seem to have sprung from TAS episodes.

And what were they thinking when they drew this scene? :rolleyes:

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/GoodFriendssmaller.jpg

Back in the day (I'm talking late '70's - early '80's), there were a number of female-written fanzines that featured Kirk - Spock ummmmm.......romantic moments. One that I can think of offhand was called, appropriately enough, Ob - Zine.

They're still be written and are called "Slash" stories, as in "Kirk/Spock" or "McCoy/Uhura", etc... I found some of them two or so years ago when doing a Google search for Star Trek Fan Written Stories. And it's not just limited to TOS - every version of Trek has had some stories written about it, from what I saw. ENT was still on the air, so there were LOTS of those stories out there.