View Full Version : WKRP in Cincinnati .....what if??
fluke 11-13-2006, 01:05 AM Hi gang!
I know that music licensing issues are the main reason why we may never see WKRP in Cincinnati on DVD.....BUT! what if they replaced the original music with generic tunes or music 'owned' by the artists them selves? I love those old tunes as much as the next guy but the music was not the shows main attraction and certainly would not kill the comedy.
Whatiya think? I just gotta have my WKRP!!
"As God is my witness I though Turkeys could fly"
BEBruns 11-13-2006, 01:26 AM Hi gang!
I know that music licensing issues are the main reason why we may never see WKRP in Cincinnati on DVD.....BUT! what if they replaced the original music with generic tunes or music 'owned' by the artists them selves? I love those old tunes as much as the next guy but the music was not the shows main attraction and certainly would not kill the comedy.
Whatiya think? I just gotta have my WKRP!!
"As God is my witness I though Turkeys could fly"
This is actually what they are doing on a lot of shows. I believe the BEVERLY HILLS 90210 set that recently came out has a notice up front stating that some of the music has been changed.
I think even the syndicated version of WKRP had some of the music changed.
I think the objection to doing this is same reason people don't like colorization or pan and scan or edited versions (at least some of us don't). We're being presented with a compromised version of the show. We aren't getting an accurate representation of what was originally broadcast.
John P 11-13-2006, 08:42 AM It may be a small problem when Johnny Fever says "And now 'Baba O'Reilly' by The Who," and plays something entirely different. :D
Eric K 11-13-2006, 08:01 PM I can think of two times the music was pertinent. The biggest was "tiny Dancer" in the Russian defecting story. The second ( and probably replaceable) was "Urgent" when Johnny Fever was tapping on the tool box that hid the bomb at the transmitter. They chose their music well for the themes of the episodes themselves.
ClubTepes 11-14-2006, 02:46 AM It may be a small problem when Johnny Fever says "And now 'Baba O'Reilly' by The Who," and plays something entirely different. :D
I don't know, that might add something to the charactor.
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Quicky, what are the music issues?
John P 11-14-2006, 10:14 AM Quicky, what are the music issues?
I think it's simply getting permission for all those then-current rock songs in every episode, would be a LOT of work.
The replaced the mucic for WKRP when the show went into reruns a few years ago. Luckily, I have my episodes from some pirate in Canada who sold me all episodes as they were originally shown on network TV.
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SteveR 11-14-2006, 01:59 PM I think it's simply getting permission for all those then-current rock songs in every episode, would be a LOT of work.Don't forget the cost. On a similar note, on the Blues Brothers DVD, Landis said that the original BB movie could not have been made today due to music licensing fees.
ClubTepes 11-14-2006, 02:26 PM Ok thats a whole topsy turvy world.
I'd think aging artists would like to see their work out there.
Any exposure is always good. You never know where a resurgance can come from.
I think the WKRP dvd team should handle it like.
"We're going to release WKRP on DVD, if you give us permission you use your music, then it stays in the episode. If not, some other group gets your spot. And people will hear their song".
Some times you have to give something up for free to make up in the long run.
Griffworks 11-14-2006, 07:34 PM It's rarely the artists themselves who keep music from appearing in syndication and the DVD's. More often than not, the artist(s) don't own the rights to their own recordings. It's usually the record label responsible for squashing that stuff. You'd think they wouldn't have a problem with it, for the same reasons of getting "their" product out there and recognized/remembered. I don't know how many times I've gone and bought a soundtrack for a movie or TV show because of the songs that were included so that I wouldn't to go purchase the original album just to get one song.
El Gato 11-15-2006, 12:48 AM I'm with you Jeff. That's why I love iTunes: Buy only the song you want.
razorwyre1 11-15-2006, 07:59 AM whats really at fault are the spate of commercials that are using old classic songs. the ad agency/sponsor comes waving just as much $ for an old chesnut as they would for a current mega-hit, and therefore use of that song is suddenly worth a lot more than it was just a week ago. the agency that handles the song then says "well if we got X$ for this Y song, the surely this other song which went higher in the billboard charts than Y is worth just as much or more." ive seen that same thing happen with movie characters too, when certain toy companies reach back in time and produce something based on a older character, suddenly that character is worth what that toy company is offereing. this can be a rude awakening for other companies which have licensed the same character all along for a low fee to produce a few collectors pieces... suddenly their up-front fees skyrocket at renewal time.
terryr 11-15-2006, 12:05 PM I met a woman who had a popular childrens book. In it a character made up songs. When it was being made into an audio book she asked for the songs to be sung. The company said no, because the rights for music are different than spoken word. She couldn't get the rights to her own songs!
Griffworks 11-15-2006, 01:43 PM It's most likely that the book company just doesn't cover music, such as for the audio books. The lady should be given credit for the lyrics, at least. She likely wouldn't have full control over the song created by the merging of her lyrics w/music written to go w/those lyrics - unless she wrote the music, too.
razorwyre1 11-17-2006, 08:47 AM It's most likely that the book company just doesn't cover music, such as for the audio books. The lady should be given credit for the lyrics, at least. She likely wouldn't have full control over the song created by the merging of her lyrics w/music written to go w/those lyrics - unless she wrote the music, too.
griff is correct. the problem is that, even if its entirly the authors own work, music and lyrics, suddenly the audio book publisher is dealing with a second set of rights and regulations, simply by virtue of the fact that it is a song, and they dont want to deal with it. (in the harry potter audiobooks, jim dale "reads" the songs, with rythm and inflection, but not really singing them. now i realize that its not because he cant sing, its because of the legal tangle that would create. i just finished the audiobook of "the shining" and thought what a lousy singer the reader was, because he didnt even hit the rythm, much less the notes on "roll out the barrel". now i understand.... he was probably forbidden to do so!)
With Thanksgiving approaching,
I always thing of those famous words
from the "Big Guy" Arthur C. Carlson:
"As God as my witness...I thought turkeys could fly"
John P 11-17-2006, 05:00 PM I thought of that too, since it's in the very first post in this thread. :freak:
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frankenstyrene 11-17-2006, 07:09 PM Just remembering that ep I sat here giggling until my wife asked me what it's about...pop over to Youtube, it's there. :)
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