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Minreg
10-21-2006, 10:51 PM
Have you seen these little Beep 027 trains at

http://readymadetoys.stores.yahoo.net/

I was thinking of ordering a few as gifts.
One for me, brother, father, son.
59 bucks each.

The Lionel Docksider switcher is probably better at around 100 bucks.
I like mine but wanted to try one of those Beeps from RMT.

toyroy
10-21-2006, 10:54 PM
partyplatedave,

They make a lot more accessories, now. And, they're really nice. I have an old magnetic crane that is my favorite O gauge accessory. You can both load and unload w/ it, and from different tracks.

I also have American Flyer S gauge. I have an animated station, where passengers both board, and leave the train, and go into and out of the station.

Minreg
10-21-2006, 11:00 PM
toyroy >

Is there a place to get good pictures of a really simple wooden roller coaster?
Sometime in the future I would like to build one to go with the Lionel amusement rides I have.

Also have you seen any circus tents? I made one a few years ago from bent wire and some red cloth but it wasnt so great.

partyplatedave
10-21-2006, 11:26 PM
personally.....i like to make my own scenoria but operating accessories is too much of a challenge.....i didnt really like the beeps....looked like midgets...LOL

toyroy
10-21-2006, 11:26 PM
Have you seen these little Beep 027 trains at

http://readymadetoys.stores.yahoo.net/

I was thinking of ordering a few as gifts.
One for me, brother, father, son.
59 bucks each.

The Lionel Docksider switcher is probably better at around 100 bucks.
I like mine but wanted to try one of those Beeps from RMT.
About those gift Beeps: I'd definitely want to know how the person feels about them, first. I HATE them. On the other hand, I've been thinking about getting one of the Docksiders; they're sweet!

toyroy
10-22-2006, 12:13 AM
...Is there a place to get good pictures of a really simple wooden roller coaster?...
I'll go through what I have, and get back to you on that. There are no really simple wood coasters I know of. The shortest, simplest coasters are steel, similar to the Faller HO models.

You might check out CoasterDynamix. They have pictures of their new HO wood coaster kit, which is pretty simple. Looks like it would be fairly easy to adapt to O scale, too.

...Also have you seen any circus tents?...
Short answer: besides the repos of the cardstock fold-ups which came with the Mickey Mouse Express set, no. But, I'll keep a lookout for some.

partyplatedave
10-22-2006, 01:11 PM
I got a barrel car that is real old probably from the 50s and I am surprised how good it still works….I am fascinated how it just vibrates the barrels up

toyroy
10-22-2006, 02:34 PM
I got a barrel car that is real old probably from the 50s and I am surprised how good it still works….I am fascinated how it just vibrates the barrels up
That's how my Flyer animated station works, too. The passenger figures have felt-like stuff on their bases, oriented so that, as the station and car floors vibrate, they make tiny hops forward.

It is because toy trains use AC, of course, that there are all the vibration-driven accessories.

partyplatedave
10-22-2006, 09:20 PM
i have a new great way to sculp mountian....great stuff foam.....it comes in a can.....also you can make water buy painting a base that looks like a river then to cover it in a layer of clear wax....its hard but works great

toyroy
10-23-2006, 08:47 AM
partyplatedave,

Are you thinking of a permanent layout, or making some scenery/accessories for your floor layout?

partyplatedave
10-23-2006, 04:35 PM
I am getting a permanent layout table this week sometime

Minreg
10-23-2006, 09:14 PM
Ok, No Beeps for you guys. LOL.

Minreg
10-23-2006, 09:21 PM
Are you going to do anything for sound deadening (drum effect) on this layout table?
I think its great your gonna have a place to run your trains.

toyroy
10-23-2006, 10:09 PM
partyplatedave,

I know you like floor layouts. Whose idea was the table? And, how big will it be?

toyroy
10-23-2006, 10:23 PM
Minreg,

One idea that occured to me for a simple wood coaster, would be to just copy one of those old Chein tin-litho wind-up toys. They're always on Ebey, if you're unfamiliar with them.

partyplatedave
10-24-2006, 03:24 PM
Are you going to do anything for sound deadening (drum effect) on this layout table?
I think its great your gonna have a place to run your trains.

i dont even know wat that is :freak:

partyplatedave
10-24-2006, 03:25 PM
partyplatedave,

I know you like floor layouts. Whose idea was the table? And, how big will it be?

It was my idea.....i am thinking 4 by 8

partyplatedave
10-24-2006, 03:28 PM
i may only put 2 or 3 tracks on it....but hope to put many switches on it....i want to make a river and a mountain but might not have enough space on the table

toyroy
10-24-2006, 03:54 PM
It was my idea.....i am thinking 4 by 8
Great! Good luck, on your mountains and water.

partyplatedave
10-24-2006, 08:33 PM
do you have a permanent layout....i am just going to make a cardboard box....put 2 holes in it were the train can go....well 4 holes because i am going to have a trestle top path and a table level main train....they will just be to boxes stacked on top of eachother but i will put those tunnel ports on the openings and sculp the mountain with foam and great stuff.....i still have no idea how to make water and some other scenery....I need help....LOL

partyplatedave
10-24-2006, 08:34 PM
Are there any items you have that you are especially fond of….cus there are some things I may want to add after listening

toyroy
10-24-2006, 10:01 PM
Are there any items you have that you are especially fond of…
I would want lots of lights and working accessories, like a stop station, a milk car platform, log loaders, etc. I've heard guys say you have to carefully plan where you put those working accessories, though.

You're beyond me now, with the mountains and stuff. They should have something in your local library about model railroad layout construction.

Y3a
10-25-2006, 12:49 PM
I'd STILL do it "Benchwork Style" so you can easily get to the wiring, and the weight won't kill you. You might even hang it from the ceiling, and use the area underneath as storage.

partyplatedave
10-25-2006, 05:10 PM
i may put a 2x8 table on two horse stands or whatever you call them....thats what my father did when i was really little.....i look at a lot of books and magazines on track planning....i ussually put things where they make sense.....

partyplatedave
10-25-2006, 09:06 PM
yea....we got a new member in this forum of three.....now four

toyroy
10-25-2006, 10:42 PM
i may put a 2x8 table on two horse stands or whatever you call them....thats what my father did when i was really little...
I think Y3a was talking about some framing underneath your 4x8 sheet. I'm sure your books and mags show that stuff.

I might go with some of those folding legs one can buy, so I wouldn't have to find a place to store the sawhorses when the table is against the wall, under the bed, or whatever.

...i look at a lot of books and magazines on track planning...i ussually put things where they make sense...
What I was talking about was things like having an accessory too close to a switch, so that the train on the siding blocks the main line. Or, having a crossing gate placed where a long engine or car on a curve sideswipes it. Those kinds of goofs are easy, when you're squeezing things together on a layout board.

partyplatedave
10-26-2006, 04:38 PM
i have a train crash in mine were the whole bridge collapsed....its pretty cool.....but i went to the library and got model railroading benchwork

toyroy
10-27-2006, 12:18 AM
i have a train crash in mine were the whole bridge collapsed....its pretty cool
LOL! Is that like The Addams Family?

Minreg
10-28-2006, 12:07 AM
Where is your layout gonna be located? bedroom, basement, garage?

For water try this:
Get a scrap piece of wood and apply some different colors of paint in different sections, just a few inches of blues, black, brown, green depending on the type of water scene your going for. Murky pond or deep river?

Then get some of this and paint it on in several layers.
Mod Podge - Gloss
http://www.joann.com/catalog.jhtml?CATID=82040&PRODID=46905

Some people use 'acrylic gloss medium' found at craft stores.

Well thats what I would do so that you can get an idea before you actually try it on your layout.

As for the layout there are a hundred ways to do things but you have to be realistic if you want to actually get it done. On my Xmas layout I started going up to a second level where I can showcase a smaller 027 train and every year make the scenery different like military or circus scene etc. That got me to thinking of a modular plan for a semi permanent layout. You know when you get tired of a coal mine swap it out for a baseball field, or something like that. One of these days... years...

toyroy
10-28-2006, 02:45 AM
...Mod Podge - Gloss...Some people use 'acrylic gloss medium'...
Walmart has the Mod Podge, also spray cans of Krylon "Triple Thick Crystal Clear Glaze" acrylic.

partyplatedave
10-30-2006, 04:54 PM
ok.....i will try some of those

partyplatedave
10-31-2006, 11:11 PM
yep.....

toyroy
11-01-2006, 03:20 AM
partyplatedave,
Anything to report, regarding your layout?

partyplatedave
11-01-2006, 04:35 PM
not really

partyplatedave
11-01-2006, 04:40 PM
just need a a good table and some materials to make scenery......i got that benchowrk book and have been looking at it

partyplatedave
11-01-2006, 07:31 PM
I also picked up a mint condition old 397 coal loader for under 100 bucks…..it was in perfect shape except for a few minor scratches on the blue part but a guy touched it up for me….i love the thing and all the interesting noises it makes…lol it is loud

partyplatedave
11-02-2006, 09:34 PM
Do any of you have a milk car….I have a real old one probably from the 50s also that still works good…I got it for under 100 bucks……but as I use it it gets hot….does yours get hot….

toyroy
11-03-2006, 03:37 AM
Do any of you have a milk car….I have a real old one probably from the 50s also that still works good…I got it for under 100 bucks……but as I use it it gets hot….does yours get hot….
They shouldn't get THAT hot. When you push the button, it should only take a second or two, to put a can on the platform.

If you are you using DC to activate the car, that will cause the coil in the mechanism to draw more current, making it hotter.

partyplatedave
11-03-2006, 05:31 PM
They shouldn't get THAT hot. When you push the button, it should only take a second or two, to put a can on the platform.

If you are you using DC to activate the car, that will cause the coil in the mechanism to draw more current, making it hotter.

ohhhhhh....ok thanks

Macs_Little_Car
11-04-2006, 01:08 AM
I have some old Lionel and American Flyer that were my dad's and granpa's, dad was born in 1930 and grandpa in 1903. Plus some old lead figures to go with the trains. I will see if I can find them and get some pictures

partyplatedave
11-04-2006, 12:01 PM
ohhhhhh....ok thanks


No i am using AC currents...i mean it gets hot but not melting or anything

partyplatedave
11-04-2006, 12:07 PM
I have some old Lionel and American Flyer that were my dad's and granpa's, dad was born in 1930 and grandpa in 1903. Plus some old lead figures to go with the trains. I will see if I can find them and get some pictures


Are you selling any of it????

Nise to have another person to join this forum :thumbsup:

toyroy
11-04-2006, 02:02 PM
No i am using AC currents...i mean it gets hot but not melting or anything
OK, I know, that YOU know, that the trains and accessories warm up when they're being used. When you say the milk car gets hot, what DO you mean? Is there a burning smell?

There are two different milk cars that I know of, and they have different mechanisms. The older car is smaller, and has a solid die-cast metal mechanism. The newer, larger car mechanism is mostly plastic, and has a dashpot to slow down the guy delivering the can.

partyplatedave
11-04-2006, 05:12 PM
its the old one with the metal mechanism

it doesnt melt but it burns your hand when touched

partyplatedave
11-04-2006, 05:21 PM
it has copper coild wrapped around the coupler

toyroy
11-04-2006, 06:56 PM
its the old one with the metal mechanism

it doesnt melt but it burns your hand when touched
That's too hot. Could be a shorted coil, or someone took some windings off of the coil.

partyplatedave
11-04-2006, 08:36 PM
well.....i doesnt really matter cus its one of my show pieces....i dont like to play with something that rare....or i shouldnt say rare but OLD and VALUABLE

toyroy
11-05-2006, 02:31 AM
well.....i doesnt really matter cus its one of my show pieces....i dont like to play with something that rare....or i shouldnt say rare but OLD and VALUABLE
I understand. I like the new Lionel/K-Line Milk Depot, and NYC milk car!

partyplatedave
11-05-2006, 12:22 PM
hopefully i can get out to a train store or show today.....

partyplatedave
11-05-2006, 08:01 PM
well i have been finding a lot of good things on ebay lately...just dont have the money to pay for them.....there is about 25 differetn train sets on ebay that start out at1 cent but usually they go up up up in price but i caught some cheap stuff for only 1 buck or two...check it out when you get a chance in the lionel part of EBAY