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PhilipMarlowe 09-21-2006, 09:09 PM Should check out the vintage Dick Cavatt show TCM is repeating at 11pm Eastern with Mitch in his swingin' seventies prime. they're showing Night of the Hunter, Cape Fear, and Out of the Past too.
Mitchum drinks steadily as he tells stories in the hour + special, they don't make 'em like that anymore.
dgtrekker 09-21-2006, 09:14 PM I agree there isn't much to compare to the old style actors these days!
Zorro 09-21-2006, 09:17 PM Thanks man. I've got two of the three movies on DVD already but I'll definitely want to see the Cavett appearance.
gruffydd 09-22-2006, 05:23 PM Plus he lights up a fatty on the show!
PhilipMarlowe 09-22-2006, 05:33 PM Plus he lights up a fatty on the show!
I liked his answer to Cavatt's:"What's the secret to a happy thirty year marriage?"
Mitchum: "Deviousness"
Lloyd Collins 09-22-2006, 06:14 PM Actors like Mitchum, were real men, not what we got today!
bert model maker 09-25-2006, 02:44 AM i saw that show and it was good, a real insight to who Robert Mitchum was.
PerfesserCoffee 09-29-2006, 08:39 AM Actors like Mitchum, were real men, not what we got today!
Yep! Along with Robert Duvall, one of the absolutely best Southern accents ever on the screen by a non-Southerner. (He must have learned a lot on that Georgia chain-gang.)
One of our customers is a cousin of Mitchums and used to see him at some family reunions on rare occasions.
Zorro 09-29-2006, 10:33 AM My younger brother was shocked that Radio Raheem's "Left Hand - Right Hand " speech in "Do The Right Thing" was actually a verbatem homage to Mitchum's great recititation in "The Night of The Hunter". Agreed - he did Southern right. Compare Mitchum's authentic accent in the original "Cape Fear" to De Niro's utterly bizarre fake Southern accent in the inferior remake. Max Cady and Harry Powell are my two favorite Mitchum performances - among many, many others.
PhilipMarlowe 09-29-2006, 10:40 AM I was flipping thru the channels the other night and ended up watching Thunder Road, Mitchum sounded authentic in that one too.
PerfesserCoffee 09-29-2006, 11:45 AM . . . Agreed - he did Southern right. Compare Mitchum's authentic accent in the original "Cape Fear" to De Niro's utterly bizarre fake Southern accent in the inferior remake. Max Cady and Harry Powell are my two favorite Mitchum performances - among many, many others.
I'm glad someone else doesn't care for that idiotic, white trash remake of Cape Fear. I absolutely loathe that movie. The original one still draws me in and is exciting and suspenseful while the remake has me rooting for the killer to kill the family and himself all in the first ten minutes.
Zorro 09-29-2006, 12:15 PM I'm glad someone else doesn't care for that idiotic, white trash remake of Cape Fear. I absolutely loathe that movie. The original one still draws me in and is exciting and suspenseful while the remake has me rooting for the killer to kill the family and himself all in the first ten minutes.
Yeah. I'm a big fan of Scorsese. I'm a big fan of De Niro. I'm not a big fan of of the "Cape Fear" remake.
gruffydd 09-29-2006, 01:17 PM Yeah. I'm a big fan of Scorsese. I'm a big fan of De Niro. I'm not a big fan of of the "Cape Fear" remake.
I like it. Good atmosphere.
PhilipMarlowe 10-03-2006, 06:00 AM I'm not a fan of the Cape Fear remake either, for one, the original is such a good movie it doesn't need remaking. It's surprisingly adult, and doesn't appear 'dated" like many movies of it's time.
The Scorsese version comes off as over-the-top and cartoony, despite an excellent cast. Mitchum's Max Cady is smooth and scary, in the remake, you almost think Illeana Douglas deserves her onscreen fate since only the most oblivious idiot would go to a hotel room with Deniro's Cady, much less let him tie her up. Compare that scene with the original, you don't see what Mitchum does to the same character, but what you imagine is more unsettling than any Hollywood gore SFX.
Zorro 10-03-2006, 09:21 AM "I got somethin' planned for your wife and kid that they ain't nevah gonna forget. They ain't nevah gonna forget it... and neither will you, Counselor! Nevah!"
scotpens 10-03-2006, 09:27 AM Ditto — the original is far superior, and onscreen violence can be much more disturbing when it's left to the audience's imagination.
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BTW, I always liked Barrie Chase in the original version as the slutty girl who hooks up with Max Cady and lives to regret it. Though known primarily as a dancer, she was also a pretty good dramatic actress. You may also remember her as Dick Shawn's spaced-out girlfriend in [I]It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World.
Zorro 10-03-2006, 09:38 AM Oh yeah! Incredibly sexy. And perusing her page on the IMDb I was tickled to learn that she is the only female in the original "The Flight of The Phoenix". She's the heat/thirst induced belly dancer who appears as a "mirage" in the middle of the desert.
Zorro 10-03-2006, 09:49 AM Compare that scene with the original, you don't see what Mitchum does to the same character, but what you imagine is more unsettling than any Hollywood gore SFX.
Mitchum breaking and smearing the egg across Polly Bergen's chest is an amazingly menacing and suggestive act. I was surprised that one got past the censors, but then ... it was just an egg.
PhilipMarlowe 10-03-2006, 10:45 AM Max Cady and Harry Powell are my two favorite Mitchum performances - among many, many others.
Don't forget these! Mitchum was a real renaissance kinda guy who released 3 albums in the fifties and sixties. They're all available on CD, and some are surprisingly listenable, especially in the context of "celebrity records". In fact, Mitchum's version of "I get no kick from champagne" on the infamous "Golden Throats" CD's is pretty smokin' imho:
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http://www.epinions.com/images/opti/fa/10/548192-music-resized200.jpg
gruffydd 10-03-2006, 10:47 AM "I got somethin' planned for your wife and kid that they ain't nevah gonna forget. They ain't nevah gonna forget it... and neither will you, Counselor! Nevah!"
That's "Cown-slah", not "Counselor."
Zorro 10-03-2006, 11:04 AM That's "Cown-slah", not "Counselor."
That sounds about right, gruffeh!
scotpens 10-03-2006, 11:36 AM . . . In fact, Mitchum's version of "I get no kick from champagne" on the infamous "Golden Throats" CD's is pretty smokin' imho. . .The Cole Porter standard is called "I Get a Kick Out of You," actually.
Couldn't possibly top Shatner's "Rocket Man"! :tongue:
PhilipMarlowe 10-03-2006, 11:54 AM The Cole Porter standard is called "I Get a Kick Out of You," actually.
Couldn't possibly top Shatner's "Rocket Man"! :tongue:
If you mean tops as in enjoyable, yes it does. If you mean tops it by weirdness, even Shatner's own "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" manages that, to say nothing of Jack Webb's "Try a Little Tenderness", Nimoy's "If I had a Hammer", or Sabastion Cabot's "McArthur Park".
scotpens 10-03-2006, 04:50 PM Jack Webb sang "Try a Little Tenderness"? Sebastian Cabot sang "MacArthur Park"?
The horror . . . the horror! :eek:
Zorro 10-03-2006, 05:41 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCecnhJ3LUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc2Y1IkJwCU
PhilipMarlowe 10-03-2006, 06:02 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCecnhJ3LUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc2Y1IkJwCU
Both clips are proof positive the seventies were about bad fashion choices and good drugs.
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