View Full Version : Hogwarts Express (HE) Help


mb1k
09-17-2006, 04:38 PM
My five year-old is a huge HP fan and is fascinated with the Hogwarts Express, "...Dad, is the Hogwarts Express coming" he asks each morning while we wait for the school bus.

I'd like to see if I can't build him a replica of the Hogwarts Express. I've seen some Revell plastic model kits of locomotives in the stores over the years and though that would be a good place to start for a scale model. Not interested in HO, N, 2mm, 4mm, 7mm, etc scale electric or working engines. Here's what I know so far:

1. Real HE is a Great Western Railways 4900 Hall Class, specifically the "Olton Hall".
2. Marklin, Hornby, and Bachman make various iterations of the engine in electric format. Some accurate to the Hall class and some "not".
3. Some scale models exist; namely the offering from Longhedge Locomotive in the UK.

I'd like to see if I can't find a plastic model kit of the Hall, if it exists. If not, I may get in touch with the Longhedge folks and see what their resin copy costs. So if anyone on the list knows of such a thing in existence, please help a brother out!

Also, if anyone else knows of anyone who's done this before with regards to making a scale HE, I wouldn't mind learning from their efforts if possible.

Thanks, I know there's some out-of-this-world scale working replicas of the Hall out there using steam or part-for-part fabrication projects in work as well. I'm just looking for something styrene preferably and "affordable"

Thanks

spe130
09-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Why not go with one of the more accurate electric sets? You can always display it when it's not running, and model trains are great fun for kids (and adults).

mb1k
09-17-2006, 07:03 PM
The Marklin set looks to be the best just from internet images so far, but also the most expensive and I'm not looking to spend more than $50 on the loco if possible.

Also, the scale, about 18" inches I think, is a tad small. I'd like to see if we couldn't get a 1/24 'ish if one exists. If not, then it will be one of those electric trains. But, Mommy will be a little upset at the cost of a full starter set just to get a display train. My space considerations don't allow for train set at this time either :-(

Y3a
09-18-2006, 11:17 AM
Classic European Steam and quality equipment = $$$$. Don't skimp, as the cheaper Steam locos will run poorly.

mb1k
09-19-2006, 11:21 PM
I don't disagree that the Marklin would run better, but I'm not looking for a running model. Just a static model if one exists. Thanks.

mb1k
12-28-2006, 10:51 PM
I guess that's a no .......

:-)

toyroy
12-29-2006, 05:23 AM
The only injection-molded loco kit in that size, that this American knows of, is the MPC civil war "General".

That Longhedge model looks to be considerably more than $50:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Longhedge_Loco/hall.htm

How about a paper model?

mb1k
12-29-2006, 01:09 PM
I like paper models, but in this case I'd like to to get a solid scale model bigger than HO or N scale. I don't think it's going to exist for a reasonable price for a display model.

The Londghedge website is actually what first started me going down this path and not the commercially packaged "Harry Potter" trains sets. Waaay expensive and add to that that the website hasn't been updated since November 1996.

I figured, hey -they have those Revell styrene locomotive kits at Hobby Lobby all the time, there just may be a chance they'd have an Oulton. Just maybe.

Guess not. :-(

Thanks Toyroy

toyroy
12-29-2006, 01:51 PM
I like paper models, but in this case I'd like to to get a solid scale model bigger than HO or N scale. I don't think it's going to exist for a reasonable price for a display model...

I figured, hey -they have those Revell styrene locomotive kits at Hobby Lobby all the time, there just may be a chance they'd have an Oulton...
Revell's kits are HO scale. Airfix, at least at one time, made OO scale British-prototype locomotive kits in injection-molded styrene. But, they'll be fragile.

How about modifying one of the Thomas the Tank Engine toys? They're British prototype, robust, come in a variety of scales, and are cheap and easy to get?

Also, I believe Lego makes a larger-scale Hogwart's Express loco.

mb1k
12-29-2006, 02:14 PM
I got the legos already :-)

I'm looking to do something museum worthy for display. Thanks for all the recommendations brothers...

toyroy
12-29-2006, 03:00 PM
As for me, you're welcome. I think your five-yr.-old will be frustrated by a museum-quality model he can't touch. Whatever he CAN touch, you've got to figure is, at best, toast, and at worst, a deadly weapon.

mb1k
12-29-2006, 09:16 PM
I'm pretty surprised. We got him a Master Replicas F/X lightsaber, he loves Luke's green saber from ROTJ and told him it was for show only. He's not touched it ever without asking permission. When he does we pretend to duel and tap blades lightly. He loves the glow and the sound, and he's been very good at not touching it. He doesn't touch my models either and they're where he can get to them.

He might do the same thing given an HP model. But I do know if I put together the HP Lego Express, he WILL PLAY with it. That's why I'm holding off till he's 11 or so and able to prove to me he can not lose any pieces.

toyroy
12-30-2006, 06:55 AM
It's a nice-looking train, and a good subject for a model.

razorwyre1
12-30-2006, 08:29 AM
theres also an officially licecened electric hogwarts express train set (its from the first movie, but a local store still has some)

toyroy
12-30-2006, 12:45 PM
Just discovered this:

http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=NN7800&catid=21

mb1k
12-30-2006, 03:23 PM
Just discovered this:

http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=NN7800&catid=21

Thanks! Now that's news, and slipped under my radar. :thumbsup:

mb1k
09-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Well, this is coming out this fall:

http://masterreplicas.com//store/harry_potter/harry_potter/8867/

Not exactly what I'm looking for so I'll still keep watching the Model RR sights.

Arronax
09-08-2007, 10:31 AM
And at the really low end but entirely playworthy is

http://photos.hobbytalk.com/data/500/medium/DSC03471.JPG

about $18 from Corgi. It's die-cast with roller wheels (the train wheels don't turn). It's about 6-7 inches long

Jim